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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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toasting for Rob today, here's Michael Pelka.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're in four h five on this stunning Saturday. Michael
Pelka with you my very first time on WR and
I'm greatly appreciative of it. Those of you who have
joined me in the past and other radio adventures, thanks
for getting here today. And those of you who have
no idea who the heck I am. I am a
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recovering Chicago and have spent more than twenty three years
in midtown Manhattan forging a radio career across many formats
in this town, including the Wacky Morning Zoo at Z
one hundred KTU and even even Dare I say this,
I think it's okay for me to admit this right now,
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I spent a year at Air America. Does anyone even
remember Air America. Air America was an effort to put
together liberal talk radio. It failed miserably, and for those
of you who are wondering, are you a liberal? No.
I was brought in to try and help them bring
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their network content to the middle because they realized that
the left side, the fringe left, is nuts and there
aren't enough people to sustain it. But that was in
the days of people like Al what's his name, the
guy who ended up being in the Senate for a
short time, Al Franken from SNL and Rachel Maddow had
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a show, and Al Shopton had a show, and then
came the Montella Cross America show that I put together,
and we brought them their highest ratings because we were
in the middle, and that didn't last long because they
were hemorrhaging cash. But yes, I have a story career
in radio and television and now I'm here doing a
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lot of guest hosting around the country. So if you're familiar,
then you know where this is going. We're going to
look at some of the things that have happened in
recent memory, in the last twenty four to forty eight hours,
maybe even go all the way back to Monday, and
celebrate some of the victories this week, and then we're
going to look at some of the issues that are
facing us today. Some of the gigantic issues. I know,
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it feels like there's a lot of winning going on.
In fact, the White House released a video yesterday talking
about all the winning that this administration is doing. And yes,
there are considerable wins on the board already. But I'm
one of the people would like to see us get
across the line with some of the issues. Like I
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would like to see somebody parp walked as it relates
to the fake Russia Russia Russia hoax. I would like
to see somebody purp walked as it relates to the
Epstein story. You know, so far, the only person who's
been arrested in any of the big stories is the
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guy who threw the sandwich at the National Guard in Washington, DC.
So I'm feeling like we're starting to get some action
with yesterday's raid on John Bolton's home, a raid that
was authorized by a judge. All of our friends, I'm
using air quotes with my fingers, all of our friends
on the left on CNN and MSNBC. Am I supposed
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to call them MS now now I guess they don't
have the new graphics up yet, so no, but all
of our friends on the left side of the mainstream
media are saying, Oh, it's political retribution, it's retribution, it's retribution.
As it was going on, as the rate of John
Bolton's home was going on, the Vice President of the
U the United States, Jadie Vance, was sitting down with
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Kristin Welker from Meet the Press and she seemed to
be confused. The Vice President straightened her out.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You know a lot of people have already looked at
this and said, this looks a lot like retribution.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Is this retribution?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Well, who has said it looks a lot like retribution?
Christ and a lot of people who tried to throw
Donald Trump in prison for completely fake charges that were
later thrown out by multiple different courts. I suspect that
if the media and the American people let this case
actually unfold, if they let the investigation unfold as it's
currently doing, they're going to find out that what we're
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doing is being very deliberate and being very deriven by
the national interest and by the law here, and that's
as it should be.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Boom. Whenever a media personality uses the opening to their question,
you know a lot of people say the translation of
that is I'm saying that this looks like retribution. The
Trump administration is saying this had nothing to do with
John Bolton's book, that this had everything to do with
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the allegations, and maybe a whistleblower coming up and saying, hey, look,
this guy is selling information that should not be in
his possession. So we'll see what happens. I for one,
am wondering if there's going to be information that will
lead the FBI from John Bolton's home to James Comey's
home perhaps, maybe John Brennan's home perhaps, and maybe we'll
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see a fight between the three of them, a race
to see who can get the best deal by turning
state's evidence. I'm keeping my powder dry, but I would
like things to happen soon. I would like things to
happen almost immediately. I didn't even get to tell you
what a fantastic day was. I hope you got outside today.
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This is one of my favorite times in New York City.
One of my favorite times the end of summer in
New York City because we have baseball happening. I know
both the Yankees and the Mets are having some challenges
right now. I know they're both kind of flailing a
little bit, hoping to make the playoffs. I know, we've
got the Jets and the Giants getting ready for their
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season openers. I think the Giants are in d C
against whatever that team name is right now, and the
Jets are home against the Steelers coming up the first
week of September. And I'm not going to even address
the NFL and the social justice messages in the end zone.
And I was going to mention the NFL male cheerleaders
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that have started popping up everywhere, but since neither the
Jets nor the Giants have cheerleading teams, it really doesn't matter.
So those don't exist here. Those issues aren't in play,
So it's just kind of a crazy st But today
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is the eve of I think one of the most
spectacular events in New York City. Of course, I'm talking
about the US Open Tennis tournament, and I'm very happy
about it, very happy about the US Open Tennis tournament.
Those of you who recognize my last name and our
tennis fans probably know I have a nephew who is
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a professional tennis player named Riley Opelka. Currently ranked number
sixty fourth or sixty sixth in the world. He plays
Monday night against the number two ranks player, a guy
named Carlos Alcarez. He's playing on Arthur ash Stadium in
the Big Stadium, and I, unfortunately won't be able to
be there. I saw him play with Venus Williams in
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the mixed doubles last week. But I think the US
Open is one of the greatest events the city has.
It's almost two weeks and that Flushing Meadal Complex, the
Billy Jean Tennis Center gets filled with tens of thousands
of people, people from all walks of life, from all
around the world, and New York is always just doing
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great stuff during and the weather spectacular. I hope you
get to go out and see some tennis, and maybe
you get to see my nephew Riley o'pelka, who may,
who may give us a call before the end of
the show here. We only have an hour here today
and if Riley's able to ring us. I want to
get an inside view, an inside perspective of what it
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is that goes on in the player's locker rooms, because
I view it as some kind of taj mahal in
there with personal chefs and all kinds of wonderful things.
Never been in there. But well, we'll talk about that.
If Riley gives us a call later, you're welcome to
join the conversation at any time. Eight hundred three to
one zero seven ten, eight hundred three to one zero
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seven ten, because I'm going to ask a question today.
I've been following the proposal to put a casino at
fifteen fifteen Broadway. There is a whole bunch of big
money that's trying to put a casino in midtown Manhattan,
right there in the middle of Broadway. It's been a
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lot of support from Jaz, who I believe is an investor.
I think Caesar's has money in this. And you're going
to see a whole bunch of famous folks lineup and
say we need to do this, and the Broadway theater
groups are saying, no, no, we don't need to do this.
We need to we need to pump the brakes on this.
(09:31):
I'm not a casino fan. If you want to go,
that's up to you. That's great. You're an adult. You
can do whatever you want in this country, at least
until we elect a socialists in the city. But I'd
like to hear from you. Where do you stand on this?
What are your thoughts on the casino in Midtown because
the Broadway theater people are freaking out. They're worried that
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it's going to eat into the twenty nine million dollars
a week. That is what they're averaging right now in
ticket sales, twenty nine shows on the Great White Way,
bringing in about twenty nine million dollars each and every week.
I'm not even talking about concessions, T shirts and memorabilia, etc.
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Not even talking about what it brings to restaurants in
the area. That's a whole lot of money. Twenty nine
million dollars a week. They're worried that casino's gonna eat
away at that, and they're putting little little flyers to
stop the casinos or stop this casino in the playbills,
in every playbill they hand out at every show. So
(10:35):
I'm just curious, what do you think I thought they
were going to put a casino on Governor's Island that
had been talked about for years and years and years.
We'll find out the phones are already hoppened today, and
so I want to be respectful and say hello to
a few of you. Let's talk to Josh on Long Island. Josh, Hello,
Welcome to wr.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
How do you get to the US open a lot
of practice, man, You gotta a lot of talent, Dan
my man, I love it. I've heard you plenty of
times before. Listen. We want casinos in Manhattan because it
brings in people, brings in tourists, and some of them
they don't just stay in the casino, They're going to
go to the play. I don't know who's the marketing
people for the theater district, but they're in the nineteenth century.
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What's happening now in New York City with Mandani you know?
I call them them moron. This is the nineteen sixty
five immigration now kicked and kicking in. We have to
do away with legal immigration in this country. We've been
the most generous people. We can't absorb everybody. Now these
foreign countries are cut and loose their prisoners in here,
raping and murdering Americans as sorts, all kinds of assorts
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going on. We got to get rid of all this.
They got to go home because it affects the congressional
districts and the electoral votes in these I call them
communist states. I don't use a color code system because
we know red is communism. And that was done purposely
by the media when they did that. Stop color coding it, folks,
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sixty five immigration acts. You got to go. Curtis Lee
would have to have big voter registration drives where where
the people who will vote for him. He's got to
go hunting with a duck saw. He's got to go
out there, big ground game. Curtis needs to pull this
thing off. If he does that, he has a chance
to win this thing. And then listen, Trump is bringing
in the National Guard. How many people and they believed
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that When Republicans said that Nancy Pelosi could send in
the National Guard, I couldn't believe they were getting away
with that life for years. But three four years, she
can't call in the National Guard.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Josh, the president should do that, Josh, Josh, let me
ask you this, because it looks like Chicago's next to
get the National Guard. DC had the murder rate to
twenty seven per capita, Chicago's twenty four. New York City's
down to under five per capita. Still too high, but
it looks like Chicago's getting it next. Do you think
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New York needs the same National Guard treatment that DC
got and Chicago's about to get.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Of course it does because the crime is concentrated in
certain areas, so those numbers are even bigger. Let's face it,
the president can send in the National Guard. He's protected,
folks by Article four, Section four the Constitution and Insurrection Act.
Because a lot of this stuff is not being controlled.
They released the prisoners on us in New York State.
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That law was done by cousins and hastings. They always
give foremo to the attention. We know because he has
the Italian last name. A lot of they hate the Italians,
but still doesn't matter. This was done to release criminals,
to make you. They want you to leave these cities
and states. They want you to either leave in a
moving van or a body bag. That's what they want
to get rid of you. They want to make you
a foreigner in your own country. Ireland is being turned
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upside down. That that's a small country. There's only a
few million people in that on that island, and it
can be overwhelmed, and it's being overwhelmed. Now, who's helping
Ireland out? President Trump should make a major speech about
what's going on an island.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Josh, Josh, You're you're philibustering. Just hang out here, Josh,
you're filibustering a little bit. I appreciate all your thoughts.
I will tell you Ireland's in trouble. England's in more troubles.
Sweden's got bigger trouble. And it's all because of unbridled
immigration from the Middle East. And it is from the
Muslim populations, breeding like rabbits and taking over. And we've
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seen it for years when I worked at the Blaze
dot com. That's right. I had three thousand articles in
the Blaze dot com in my six and a half
years there. We saw it, we reported on it, and
now sadly it's coming true. Let me grab one more
call here. Let's talk to Sandra in New Jersey. Hello, Sandra,
welcome to wr oh oh.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Thank you Mike. Thank you for coming from rob Estorino.
He's so great and you're doing so well. You know,
I wanted to answer you a question about the casinos,
but I also wanted to answer your comment about what
good thing happened to Trump this week. Regarding the casinos,
I went to see moul on Us this week and
the lines was so long, went around the block. So
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if you play casinos there just that alone would complicate things.
It would become overwhelmingly crowded and unpleasant. I was not
liking being on that line. So that's my thought on that.
If you put the casino somewhere else in an area
of the city, see that that's empty. I don't think
I have a problem with that. It will give some
people something to do versus something else. That was my
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thought on that, all right, is that? Okay? Do you
want to hear my other thought?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yes, of course I do, Sandra. I wouldn't go to
commercial without it.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Oh, okay. I'm really happy that Donald Trump lucked out
with Letitia James. She she got both ends of the
stick the wrong way. She she lost her case with him.
She violated the Eighth Amendment, you know, you know, excessive
penalty for something that he didn't even do, and then
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she ended up doing fraudulent mortgage, so you know what,
she had to go on a cruise. I think she's
embarrassed and she needs to think this thing out and
figure how she's gonna go forward. So I think it
was a win win for Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Huge win win. And the DOJ has also posted a
note they sent to Letitia James telling her the best
thing she could do is resign, and that's probably the
best legal advice she's gonna get for quite some time.
Thank you, Sandra. Very interesting take on the idea of
the casino in Times Square. Not for it because there's
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just too many people there already. It might be a
place for them to cool their heels before they see
a show. Again. I'm not pro casino, I'm not anti casino.
I'm one of the guys that doesn't get obsessed about it.
But it's an interesting fight that's going to happen right
here in this town. More on that if you want
to weigh in, of course, eight hundred and three to
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one zero, seven to ten. My name is Michael Pelke
in for rob Astorino. Just around the corner about fifteen
minute us from now, we're going to talk about whether
or not President Trump is able to kill mail in ballots.
That's an issue I'm very hot on as well. But
i'd like to hear from you on what you think
about the idea of a casino At fifteen fifteen Broadway.
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in for rob Astorino. So many of you checking in today.
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We're asking the question do you want a casino in midtown?
There's a giant push. Jay z is obviously one of
the investors in people who stands to make money on this.
He's pushing it. Fat Joe Rapper Fat Joe is involved
in testifying on behalf of it, and the folks from
I believe it's I got a double check and see
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if it's Bally's. But one of the big casino groups
is actually trying to make this happen as well, and
the Broadway theater people are not happy. So that's the
instant question we've got going on today. And joining us
at this moment, Donald and Lynchburg, Virginia. Donald, welcome to WI.
You have a thought on.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
This, Yes, sir, people I talked to, you know, around Lynchburg.
They tell me they wouldn't go to New York City
if you paid them. What's the crime? The immigrant? Illegal
immigrants up there and just want nothing to do with it?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Have you been here?
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I went to New York years ago, like in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, it was kind of crazy in the eighties. I
got to New York in nineteen eighty eight and New
York was averaging five murders a day. And then we
got Rudy Giuliani in office, and he cleaned things up,
and New York became a lot safer, cleaned up Times Square.
And then Bloomberg came in and he didn't screw it
up too badly. Things didn't get too out of control
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until we had Big Bird Deblasio, whose real name is
Warren Wilhelm. And so New York actually still has a
very warm place in my heart. I was there Tuesday,
to watch some tennis out at the Tennis Center, and
I took the Long Island Railroad out. I took the
subway all up and downtown. It's not as crazy as
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they tell you Donald So I would tell people come
and experience it for yourself. Come in the summertime when
there's a lot of sunshine, Come around Christmas and go
see the Christmas Tree at Radio City at Rockefeller Center.
It really is a And you know what, I would
tell people down because you're probably a little bit of
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a patriot? Am I wrong in assuming that?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No, okay, have you ever seen the Statue of Liberty
in person?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
I haven't been to it, but I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
It would be I will tell you that, even as
a jaded New Yorker spent almost three full decades living
in Midtown Manhattan, one of the things that I do
every single year is visit the Statue of Liberty and climate.
It puts you in connection with the roots of freedom
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and liberty that this nation has been a beacon to
the rest of the world for And I will tell
people you come to and now, especially after September eleventh,
two thousand and one, I tell people go to that
site that sacred site in Lower Manhattan and touch the
wall and see the names on the wall, the three
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neighbors of mine who we lost that day. And then
take the ferry to Liberty Island and I hope you
made your reservation and climb the Statue of Liberty. It
will change your perspective on New York as being this
hard edged, crazy place. But it's also a place that
the rest of the world looks to and says, what
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a great city. And now it's not perfect, and we're
trying to avoid the other crazy stuff with this Mondami guy.
But I will tell you, give them a little shot,
give them a little go, and see for yourself. Thank you, Donald,
I appreciate your thoughts on that. Let's go to Ray
in Long Island City. Hello Ray, Welcome to wr.
Speaker 12 (26:41):
Well, Hello Michael, thanks for having me on. I'm a
big concern about this casino and I think it's a
terrible idea as it is now many people I have
not gone to Broadway shows there. What should I call it?
Depersentage was done basically because of all those characters in
the Times Square area stuff. There's a Disneyland characters and stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Did you see did you did you hear the numbers?
I just read off and these are from Broadway, the
reporting numbers.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Oh, I read them.
Speaker 12 (27:09):
I read them and I wrote them down. You said
something about twenty nine million being being.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Down my Ritan dollars in ticket sales a week.
Speaker 12 (27:20):
If anything, that number is going to go down because
the crowd that goes to these Broadway shows, and you know,
I would say half of them might be interested in
going into a casino for a little while or a drink.
But it's just too crowded, That's all I really want
to say. It's already crowded enough down there. This is
not needed now. If we did not have casinos, I
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would say, yeah, but all it takes is a train
ride or a bus fight out to resorts or up
to Westchester or even Jersey. It's not like we don't
have casinos. You just got to take a little ride
to get to them.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
So, you know, the people, I always play the devil's
advocate ray that the people want convenience. What about Governor's Island?
Could we put it on Governor's Island? Would that be
a good compromise.
Speaker 12 (28:05):
I think it would be an excellent compromise. But I
don't know how the city was steel about joining Governor's Island.
I mean, I don't know. It's not really used for
much now. It's like a park, right, I haven't been
there in a while.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, they talked about it in the past. It I
might be an idea, right, but I appreciate you speaking
up on it. And yeah, it might make it a
little more crowded down there, But if you've been on
the subway in rush hour, you know what crowded feels like.
So I thank you for being there, sir. It is
a four thirty three just around the corner. I want
(28:38):
you to meet my friend John Lott Junior. He is
a writer. He's also the president at the Crime Research Center.
This guy knows crime, but he also knows that the
President spoke this week about getting rid of mail in balloting,
and I want to know if we can do that.
Can we get rid of mail? I'm not balloting voting.
Can we get rid of mail in ballots? Can we
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kill mail in ballots? I'm not talking about people that
are out of the country because they're in service to
the nation somewhere and they need to mail in their vote.
I'm talking about the mass mailings that we've experienced over
the past two presidential elections. Is it possible. We'll talk
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It is four point thirty seven on this absolutely gorgeous,
gorgeous late August Saturday. Michaeoh Pelka, honored to be here,
Pleased as punch to be here for Rob Estorino. And
I've been trying to get to everything because there's just
so much going on. Something happened on Monday, and I
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have to admit I got really excited about it. The
President of the United States, Don Trump posted on truth Social.
He declared on truth Social that he's going to get
rid of mail in ballots. And I wasn't the only
person who got excited about this. My friend John Lott
Junior got excited about it too. He's a very very
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brilliant man, Rights for real clear Politics, also the president
of Crime Prevention Research Center, and you should be following
him on social media. He's joining us today on his
Saturday John, Thanks for being here. I have questions about
this push for the president given a mail in bouting,
can it actually happen and how soon?
Speaker 13 (32:21):
Well, thanks for having me on. Well, you know, there's
a lot of rules that the states have complete control
over in terms of voting, but the federal government gives
a lot of money to the states, and has often
happened in the past, it might be possible for the
president to go and say, if you're not going to
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have certain integrity with regard to elections, we're not going
to give you some of the federal money that you
otherwise would have gotten. So we don't haven't seen the
actual wording of the executive order that he's putting together,
but look, I think it's a hopeful sign. There's no
country in the world that has mail in ballots where
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you just kind of automatically send out a ballot to
everybody who's registered. Poland talked about doing it briefly during
the twenty twenty election during COVID, but quickly backed away
from it. You know, the thing is, even if you
look at like absentee ballot rules around the world, very
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few countries have rules as liberal even for absentee ballots
that we have in the United States. If you look
at Europe, for example, there are forty seven countries there.
Thirty five of the forty seven countries in Europe ban
completely ban absentee ballots for people living in the country.
Another ten allow it, but they require that you have
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to go in person with the government issued photo ID
to pick it up. They will not send it to
you in the mail because they're worried that somebody could
steal your ballot and vote it for you.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Wait, wait a minute, John thought, hold on, there's ten
countries that are racist enough to demand a prouto ID
to pick up a ballot.
Speaker 13 (34:08):
Well, apparently Mexico is also very racist too. But you know,
I don't think people appreciate what an outlier the United
States is on all sorts of voting rules. I mean,
Canada and Mexico required government issued photo IDs to be
able to go and vote. Mexico one of the things
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back in nineteen ninety two when they finally did a
lot of reforms with regard to vote fraud, so they
banned all absentee ballots. They required government issued photo IDs
as well as a thumbprint on a biometric information on
the card that you have there, you had to travel
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to go and apply for the card, and then travel
again to pick it up. In many cases it could
be one hundred mile round trips for people to go
both times to apply and then get the ID because
they wouldn't send it to.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
You in the mail.
Speaker 13 (35:04):
Voting rates increased dramatically after Mexico imposed those rules, and
the simple reason is is that people had more faith
in the outcome of the election and so they figured
their votes were more likely to count.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So you know, you frequently, John, that's that runs counter
to everything that Democrats tell us. If we get rid
of mail in balloting, they're saying that voting would go down,
but in the case of Mexico went up.
Speaker 13 (35:34):
That they had to tea ballots they did they didn't have,
so you basically just so make sure everybody understands the
difference mail in votes like we have in eight states
right now, is everybody who's registered to vote gets a
bouot sent to them, you know, and there's lots of
people who may be dead or moved. I lived in
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a state that did that one time, and I was
getting ballots from people who had lived in the apartment
like four times ago. You walk through the mail room
there and you just see literally many dozens of ballots
just thrown on the floor because people were getting a
lot of ballots that weren't meant for them. And so
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that's one way of doing then. The absentee ballots required
that you have to apply and ask for it. Traditionally,
you used to have to give a good reason, like
you're going to be out of town to be able
to go and get it. Now most places just say
you just have to ask for it. And it's even
when you had to give a reason, it's not like
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they really checked to make sure that you're actually going
to be out of town when you did it. But
you know, the interesting thing to me is people forget
kind of the history of why we started a lot
of these rules to begin with. You know, people say, well,
there's no vote fraud in the United States. There used
to be, and we know tons of vote fraud in
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the United States before we had the secret ballot, and
we didn't have secret ballots so relatively recently. The first
state to have secret ballots was Kentucky in eighteen eighty.
The last state to move to secret ballots was South
Carolina in nineteen fifty, so it's not that long ago.
And what would happen is there'd be a ballot box
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up in the front of the room and you would
drop in a colored piece of paper based on what
party you were voting for, and the representatives of the
parties would stand on either side of the ballot box
and observe what colored piece of paper you were put in,
and then they would pay people based on how they voted.
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Probably the major reason we moved to secret ballots was
to stop vote by that occurred there. And at the
same time, the states banned absentee ballots, and even the
states that allow absentee ballots got rid of what they
call vote harvesting. And the reason is is because they
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were concerned that with an absentee ballot, you could show
somebody how you were voting, and with ballot harvesting, you
could not only show them how you were voting, but
then you could give them the ballot so that they
would know that it would be cast, and so that
vote was worth a lot more to them than one
that you know, just my word that I voted for you.
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When you have a seat of ballot, if somebody goes
into the voting booth, you could tell both sides that
you voted for them, and there'd be no way for
them to check. And the thing is, when these states
went to secret ballots, there was between about eight and
twelve percentage point drop in voting rates because some people,
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it turns out, when they weren't getting paid anymore to vote,
didn't go and vote. But you immediately saw all these
different states passing this in different years. Right after you'd
see this big sudden drop in the rate that people
were voting when they weren't getting paid anymore to vote.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
It's so interesting to me that anyone would fight against
something that is so riddled with potential fraud, and in
many cases fraud we're talking with John Lotte, Junior President
of Crime Prevention Research Center, in his Peace and Real
Clear Politics about what President Trump saying he's going to
initiate the push to get rid of mail in ballots, John,
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is there any data that shows US red states, Blue states,
which states or which party benefits most from mail in
balloting mass mail in balloting?
Speaker 13 (39:44):
Well, I mean, I think you could look to see
what states have adopted this in parts. We have eight
states with it right now. Seven of those are very
heavily democratic states. And usually what happens is after a
state like Colorado or some of these other states, after
the Democrats take over, then they moved to mail in
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ballots immediately, so presumably they think it provides them a benefit,
and they also move to get rid of ballot harvesting.
At the same time, the one Republican state, Utah, just
passed the law to get rid of mail in ballots
in Utah, So pretty soon only democratic states will will
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have that. And you know, it's and Utah did it
because there were concerns about vote fraud and vote buying
here in the state.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
So what's what's more sketchy or what's more of a
problem mail in ballots or redistricting or are they both
equally egregious?
Speaker 6 (40:49):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 13 (40:52):
I guess to some extent, redistricting, the party that's kind
of the minority party loses influence. I mean, you look
at Illinois, for example, Republicans get like forty percent of
the vote and the congressional elections, but they only have
like seventeen percent of the congressional seats. In Massachusetts and Connecticut,
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there are no Republicans there because of the way that
they've redistricted. In Maryland, of the eight congressional seats, there's
only one Republican there. And you know, Andy Harris gets
like eighty some percent of the vote because they've drawn
all these squiggly lines to make sure that the vast
majority of Republicans in the state are in his district.
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So you know, in some sense you've deluded the impact
of kind of the minority party in those states, so
they aren't don't have the representation, you know, proportional to
the share of the votes that they're going to be getting.
So in some sense it's similar to vote fraud, because
vote fraud if you can also dilute the value of
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the votes for others who would be on the losing end.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Both of these problems I think need to be addressed
openly and honestly. The jerrymanderin Just so everyone's clear, there
are nine states where there are zero Republican seats in
Congress even though they vote. The voters in those states
vote thirty six to forty eight percent for Republican presidential candidates,
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and they get zero seats in the House of Representatives
in nine states. But it's only bad when Republicans do it,
got it, and they push to keep mail in ballots.
I always look at the loudest voices, and if they
are coming from Democrats, it tells me that they're getting
the benefit from it. So I follow the noise and
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make my decision. If you want to learn more about
the potential to see the president turn the mail in
balloting and turn it into a piece of history, you
should read John Watt's piece on real clear politics. John,
thanks for making time on a Saturday. My friend always
appreciate the conversation.
Speaker 13 (43:13):
Well, thanks for being there, Mike. You make a difference,
so I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Thank you, brother. It is four forty nine. I cannot
believe the hours flying by. You still have time to
get your vote in Does New York City need a
casino at fifteen fifteen Broadway eight hundred three two one
zero seven ten, eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.
And before we get out of here, maybe we'll have
a little fun and play Democrats say the darnedest things.
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Maybe it's Michael Pelkin for rob Astorino on wo R.
It is four fifty two on the Saturday. Michael Pelk
in for rob Astorino. Almost time for me to get
out of here. Got to make sure I get everything
covered good. Look to the Connecticut Little League team. I
watched them play yesterday and that that crazy I think
it was, yes say the crazy play where the other
team didn't know that supposed to be on the pictures,
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bound to call time out and Connecticut kept it. It
was brilliant. Know the rules, know the rules. You could
make sure you make every situation work for you. Let's
get one more vote in here on my question about
the New York City casino? Do we need a casino
at fifteen fifteen Broadway. Billy, you're in the Bronx. You
get the final vote here, sir.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Okay, I say they should put it there, but remember
there's a lot of gambling fights out there. They have
Lottle degenerate. Do you know why you have couples going there?
Degenerate husbands will gamble the women that go to the theater
district and after that they go to the Yankee game.
But these Johnny come latelies with the immigration thing. Let's
remember Steve from Manhattan and Patty Cannon.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Okay, okay, thank you for being there, Billy. I don't
think all the gambling husbands are degenerates, but that's just me.
I stress how quickly time moves when I talk about
how fast this hour has gone. And yet I also
remind you we're seventy three days away from the mayoral election.
Just seventy three days and still no debates scheduled. Eric Adams,
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the mayor, said he's not dropping out today. Seventy three days, Mom, dammy.
The Kami has raised over a million dollars. Cuomo raised
just over five hundred thousand, and I think Eric Adams
is in the four hundred thousand range. So the comedy
the non capitalist certainly has a little bit of an
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advantage at this point. I find that very interesting, very curious.
Money is a good thing when it suits him, we
will see, all right. I like to do a little thing.
Whenever I'm on the radio. It's called Democrats say the
Darnest Things. Even has its own theme song.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Democrats say the darnast things?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Are you serious right now?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Democrats say the darnest things, the smallest st got some time. Yes,
that's right, those wacky Democrats they say the darnedest things
that this week, many of them said many darned things.
The one that made me laugh the most has to
be the woman who is about to lose her congressional
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seat thanks to the redistricting in the state of Texas
that looks like gets pushed through. Jazzy Jasmine crocket is
likely to lose in the mid term elections, which, by
the way, four hundred and seven days away from the
midterm elections, So this might be one of the last
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years we have Jazzy Jasmine Crockett. And she was sitting
down with Gavin Newsom and they were talking about what
Ice is doing.
Speaker 14 (46:47):
When she said this Ice, for the most part, is
nothing but a ride. That's all they were supposed to
do for the most part. Right, It's like, you know what,
this person is undocumented or this person re enters the
country illegally, all the things, and then they have an
icehold and I gets them, so they miss it them out.
Speaker 7 (47:05):
That's all Ice was supposed to do.
Speaker 14 (47:07):
Look at them as a fancy uber driver for immigrants.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
A fancy uber driver for immigrants. You know who's gonna
find out about that? You know the person is about
to find out about that. Kilmore Brago Garcia, the guy
a judge forced to be let out of jail and
sent back to Maryland. And I'm gonna make a prediction
he will be deported by Monday morning. I think they
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had thirty six hours they had to wait. But Jessey
Jasmine Crockett is the winner of today's Democrats Say the
Darnedest Things Award. She's always so cooperative, such a helper,
and she's about to lose her congressional seat. She and
Al Green, the guy who always shakes his cane at
the president. Both of those districts in Texas have now
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been moved from leaning or strongly dem cred to leaning
or strong Republican. And I know there's a lot of
people that don't like the jerrymandering, But if you want
me to read the stats again, there are nine states
where the Republicans get or cast more than thirty six
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percent of the votes and they have zero representation in Congress. Zero.
It's not fair, it's not right. Texas has done it.
If you want to discuss it someday, if I'm back again,
if I'm fortunate enough to be invited back again, someday
we will discuss what I think is the right way
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to handle the gerrymandering. There are methods to do it,
but not the ones we're seeing now. If you want
to see something really crazy, look at how the Democrats
jerrymandered Jerry Nadler's seat his district is absolutely crazy. I'm
surprised if it doesn't go through a house in some way,
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shape or form. The line goes right through somebody's house.
It's just not fair. It's just not right, and we
will have to deal with it other things I encourage
you to do. Watch Riley Opelka. That's my nephew. He
is playing on the US Open courts late Monday night.
If he wins his match, it will shake the tennis
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world to its core. But it can happen because he's
a remarkable young player. It is the greatest tennis tournament
of all the tennis tournaments. I know. I've been to
most of them as a very proud uncle. And New
York City shines in the world's eye with the US Open.
So be proud of this great city and let's make
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sure we keep it a great city. Seventy what I say,
seventy three days until the mayoral election. We need to
make sure that we don't go common. Thank you for
inviting me into your ears today. I will be here
whenever you guys need me, and I've be joined it here.
I gotta say a big thanks to everybody who called
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Until next time, it's Michael Pelker reminding you test Studo,
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