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December 20, 2025 16 mins
Ryan & Dana discuss the latest developments tied to the Brown University and MIT professor shootings, White House Correspondent Jon Decker previews the release of the Epstein Files, National Correspondent Rory O'Neill runs through new details on President Trump's "Warrior Dividend," how a cell phone ban policy changed students' behavior, and Trump's decision to rename the Kennedy Center.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The suspected Brown University shooter was found dead from a
self inflicted gunshot wound inside a storage facility in Salem,
New Hampshire, last night. This is Providence Police Chief Oscar
Perez making the announcement. He was a Brown student, he
was a Portuguese national, and he's last name Noan Andrews,
was in Miami, Florida, and I will tell you that

(00:22):
he took his own life tonight. University president Christina Packson
revealed the suspect attended the school years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Claudia Menuel Navis Valente was enrolled at Brown from the
fall of two thousand to the spring of two thousand
and one. He was admitted to Brown's graduate school to
study in the Masters of Science PhD program in.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Physics, and Packson said this about Valente's connection to the
part of campus where the shooting occurred.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think it's safe to assume that this man, when
he was a student, spent a great deal of time
in that building for classes and other activities.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
The US attorney Lea fully spoke and announced this.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
On December fifteenth, he murdered MIT professor Nuno Lourierro at
Louriro's home in Brookline, Massachusetts. He attended the same academic
program as the MIT professor Nuno Lourierro in Portugal between
nineteen ninety five and two thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
There is a video footage of him entering an apartment
building in the location of the professor's apartment, and then
later that evening he has seen about an hour later
entering the storage unit. He was the person responsible not
only for the Brown shootings but for the Brookline shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
So some other notes. Again, just to reiterate, his last
known residence was in Miami, so there's a Florida connection
to this story. We have no information on a potential motive.
Authorities believe that he acted alone. They tracked a grain
Nissan CenTra that he rented and kept driving around Brown
University in the days leading up to the shooting. That
same vehicle later plased him near the MIT professor's home

(02:02):
in Massachusetts, and a Brown University graduate who later worked
as a custodian provided a key tip. We don't know
exactly what that is yet, but he provided a key
tip that helped investigators identify and track the suspect. Officials
said the man had a direct encounter with the suspect
before the shooting and shared information that blew this case open. Now,

(02:23):
I wanted to ask you, Danny. Yesterday we talked about
some of the feedback we were getting on our segment
about this case on social media, and you had internet
sleuths who they were sure they knew who this person was.
You took a look at that the person who they
thought it was, was it this suspect.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
It absolutely was not even close.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
They were convinced they had the person that it looked
just like the suspect. That there was some conspiracy right right,
the university scrubbed the name from the side. And that's
why you got to be careful with the algorithm and
going down these rabbit holes because time and time again,
just like with the DC pipe bomb suspect and what

(03:10):
the Blaze was putting out there, yeah, doesn't end up being.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
The really wrong.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
And they took this young person's picture, he was a
student at the school and his young person's picture, put
it all over the internet and accused.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Him of this.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yep, exactly. Let's go back to the hoighline and bringing
our White House correspondent John Decker. Now, so John, today
could be a very interesting day or it could be
a real dud. The Epstein files set to be released.
Do we have any idea how this is going to
go down, how the Department of Justice is going to
handle this?

Speaker 7 (03:36):
No.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
All that we know, good question. All that we know
is that at some point during the day today, between
now and midnight, those files will be released. That's because
of that law signed by President Trump several weeks ago
which mandates the release of all of those files related
to the DOJ's investigation of Jeffrey Epstein. So we know

(03:59):
that there will be and we know that Pam Bondi,
the Attorney General, can still say we're not going to
release this particular file or this set of files because
of that ongoing investigation which was ordered by President Trump
and to the involvement with Jeffrey Epstein by a number
of very high profile Democrats.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
That is all that we know, Ryan.

Speaker 8 (04:21):
We obviously don't know what's contained in all these files,
and I think that's the reason why there's so much
curiosity regarding what will happen at some point during the
day today, Man.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And there's going to be a lot of pressure on
Pam Bondy if she releases these files and there's a
ton of redactions. There's stuff missing now. Thomas Massey, he
said yesterday that he knows of at least twenty men
who are accused of sex crimes in the Epstein files.
And he said he knows this from people who have
covered the case for years and the victims' lawyers, and
so he said, if he doesn't see those names, he'll

(04:52):
know that we didn't get all the files. So you're
gonna have a lot of that in the aftermath.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
A lot of you who have some inside information that
are waiting to see are we going to get it?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
All right? But this is I think, John, this is
the epitome of Friday news dump right, nice holiday? Yeah,
yes and no, yes and no.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
Remember this all began because the clock started ticking right
days ago.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
So it just happens. Yeah, ball on a Friday, isn't that?

Speaker 8 (05:19):
Isn't that something a Friday before probably the most major
holidays Christmas?

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Wouldn't you know it?

Speaker 8 (05:26):
It's happening today all right?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Our White House correspondent John Decker with us this morning. John,
this is my final show of twenty twenty five. Just
wanted to thank you so much for all of your contributions.
Throughout the course of the year. We love having you
on every morning, and we really appreciate all the stuff
that you send us from your adventures there covering the presidency.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
The videos and the pictures and stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
We love it. Yeah, it's great and we're glad we
could share that with our listeners.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
Well.

Speaker 8 (05:52):
I love being on your show every day. It's really
really a lot of fun, and also love talking to
your audience and telling you what's happening White House. And
I look forward to doing more of that in twenty
twenty six with you.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Ryan, looking forward to it. All right, sounds great. John Decker,
our White House correspondent with us. John, thanks so much,
and don't forget you can check out John Decker on
the White House Briefing Room podcast on your iHeartRadio app.
Right now, let's bring in our national correspondent, Rory O'Neil,
who supports Bronte by Mark Spain real estate. So, Rory,
we learned a bit more about that Warrior dividend that

(06:27):
President Trump announced in his address to the nation the
other night, specifically where that money is coming from. And
it wasn't quite what it sounded like in that speech.

Speaker 9 (06:41):
Right because in the speech he said, Oh, we're bringing
in so much money from tariffs, we're gonna.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
Pay this warrior dividend of one thousand, seven hundred and
seventy six dollars to every active duty member of the
military at one point four or five million men and women.

Speaker 9 (06:56):
And actually the money was already allocated by Congress, but
it was supposed to be for military housing subsidies, and
instead they're just going to shift the money around and
get it out to the troops as this extra payment
before the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, I was in favor of though Warrior dividend. I
thought that was a really good idea. Our service members
certainly deserve something like that. But basically what's happening here
is you're just taking money away that was supposed to
subsidize housing allowances for service members, and you're giving it
to them in this check. I honestly would rather have

(07:34):
seen this go through the normal process where the President
just asked Congress to do it. I can't imagine they wouldn't, like,
who's going to vote against that. This way, our service
members get the housing allowances and the bonus check, right,
and this is well one of the ways.

Speaker 9 (07:54):
This is how they're also going to make sure that
it's tax free because the money is going to go
out to the members of the military as a one
time basic allowance for housing bah supplement. That's normally what's
done if people have to move to expensive places like
San Diego, they get a supplement to help them pay
for housing. So this is how they're going to do
it for everyone in the military is through this program,

(08:16):
so it's not taxed as regular income.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Okay, all right, Look, I'd like to see them get
the housing allowance the bonus, and i'd like for the
Pentagon and hopefully we see this in twenty twenty six
to take a hard look at the housing.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
And the mold in the housing.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, we've done that story numerous times throughout twenty twenty five.
Some of these horror stories that we're hearing about on
a military basis in these housing developments for our service
members where the conditions are.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
Just really bad, like so bad that yeah, that the
kids are so sick for the mold that they won't
qualify to be in the military when they grow up.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Exactly. It is really outrageous and something needs to be
done about it, and done about it immediately.

Speaker 9 (09:04):
And this is two point six billion dollars in spending.
I mean, it's we say seventeen seventy six, but really
the number is two point six billion. It's a big investment.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, all right, let's get to another story you're covering
this morning, the Brown University and MIT professor shootings. The
suspect found dead in New Hampshire. What stood out to
you about all the details that we got overnight, Well.

Speaker 9 (09:28):
Really what cracked the case Essentially, a homeless guy who
lives in the basement of that engineering building at Brown.
He ran into the shooter in the bathroom and looked
at him, a guy from Florida, and said, boy, that
coat's not going to be enough for you. You know,
it's awfully cold out there. And they I guess they
exchanged a few words. But this homeless guy, they called
him the reddit man, that's how he posted stuff. He

(09:50):
has said that the guy just looked out of place,
and actually he followed him out of the building. This
is all a couple hours before the shooting, and he
follows them through the streets of colle A chill And
and actually sees him go up to his rented car
that he noticed the Florida tag on it that caught
his eye, and then they put.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
All these pieces together.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
Now this guy, the homeless guy, we call him, he's
that second person of interest.

Speaker 10 (10:13):
Okay, he is that person I wasn't sure about that wondering. Yeah,
it's that guy.

Speaker 9 (10:17):
It's that guy who then they were almost chasing each other.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (10:21):
Video where we see the suspect running a little bit.
He's actually trying to get away from reddit man homeless
man guy, Yeah, because he was tired of being followed
through the streets.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
How is he homeless? And on Reddit?

Speaker 11 (10:32):
Was he using the university?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Homeless people?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
It okay? So so yeah, he saw in the vehicle
the suspect was about to get in. The suspect doesn't
get in the vehicle, though, and that's when that little
cat and mouse chase ensued. But he posted on Reddit
the whole encounter and said, you know, hey, this car,
it belongs to somebody suspicious. And then eventually he goes
law enforcement about it.

Speaker 9 (10:59):
I guess on Wednesday, right, and then that's when everything
started to come together. Look, the police knew how to
investigate when they knew what they were looking for, right right.
I compare it to I compared it to the jigsaw puzzle, right,
it's but you don't have the top of the box
to know what it's going to be. But now that
you got the top of the box, oh, I could
put this together, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
And that's sort of where they were stock.

Speaker 9 (11:21):
They had all the tools but didn't know what they
were looking for. Once they got that little seed, that car,
that rented car with the Florida tag, they were off
to the races. That's how they linked into being there
in Brookline and killing the MIT professor. That's how they
got to the rented car that they found at the
storage locker in New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
All right, our national correspondent Rory O'Neil with us. Rory,
it's my final show of the year, so I just
want to thank you for your valuable contributions throughout twenty
twenty five to the show every day at seven thirty.

Speaker 9 (11:49):
Thanks very much.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Always a pleasure.

Speaker 9 (11:51):
Ryan. I don't know who's filling in for you, but
you know they'll do whatever they do, and.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well, well it's Dana and Reed Shepherd, so maybe be
a little more excited about that contributing. Don't do what
they do, alright, Rory, I'll talk to you in the
new Year. Thanks so much Christmas.

Speaker 9 (12:11):
Happy New Year.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
So New York Magazine had a really interesting report New
York State band student phone use from bell to bell
starting in September, and teachers quickly noticed an unintended effect.

Speaker 11 (12:26):
Students started talking to each other more, especially during lunch
and free periods, despite some resistance, including apparently some burner
phones and attempts to unlock phone pouches. Early on, most
schools reported a calmer, more social atmosphere. Lunch rooms and
hallways they reported were livelier, more face to face conversation,

(12:46):
fewer students staring at screens. Schools actually began offering cards,
board games, sports equipment, students started using all of that.
At some schools, kids they're playing all kinds of different
things instead of scrolling during that you know, downtime that
they have. And even parents are reporting noticeable behavior changes,

(13:09):
including less fixation on phones after school and more interest
in clubs and sports. This was a topic we talked
a lot about this past year because we have these
same policies or similar policies depending on the place here
in Florida. This is something that we've been pushing for
and it's because we said, this is what a band would.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Lead to, right, And whenever I hear parents and some
of my friends say this, say that their kids have
to have the phone, I have to be able to
get in touch with them. Sometimes there's lockdowns at schools
that actually happens a lot. Even though most of the
time it's not like a real emergency or a shooter something.
There are things that happen on campus, fights and stuff.
Parents panic and they want to be able to reach
their kid immediately, which I can understand that, But at

(13:51):
the same time, you have to look at the benefit
of it overall and their learning, socialization, their behavior, all
that stuff. If all that is going to improof, can
you back off your anxiety a little bit and let
your kid be a kid without the freaking phone.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, it's exactly right. And just students and phones and
social media that I feel like was a big, big
issue in twenty twenty five kind of came to a
head with lawmakers saying enough is enough here and starting
to put some policies in place. And then just recently
we talked about Australia and the full on ban for
those under the age of sixteen for social media in.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
The study that came out that we talked about recently,
where it's making kids distracted and killing their attention spans
and all that.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt announced yesterday that
the Kennedy Center Board unanimously voted to rename the venue
the Trump Kennedy Center, and the board includes Trump, Rick Grenell,
Maria Bartiromo, Pam Bondy, Laura Ingram, Dance Covino, Oosha Vans,
Susie Wilds.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
So you know, I wonder why all these people.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
The very favorable group for President Trump now Representative Joy Beatie,
a Democratic board member. She said her microphone was muted
during the vote, disputing that it was unanimous.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Oh my gosh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Now the building is statutorily named the John F. Kennedy
Center for the Performing Arts. Congress did not give the
board the authority to change the name. So it's kind
of like what we're seeing with the Department of War.
That's what Trump and the administration is.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Calling in what it's going to be.

Speaker 10 (15:27):
We're gonna call it that, But but I will say
I think the President needs to ease up on renaming things.

Speaker 9 (15:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
This was Doug Bergham doing an interview the other day.

Speaker 8 (15:37):
So across the southwestern border, forty one percent of the
distance between the Gulf of Mexic Gulf of America.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
You can't expect everybody to remember all these different names. Yeah, yeah,
I mean and.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
The Trump kenned I mean really, I don't know that
he's renaming it after himself.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, well yeah, that Trump. Trump's whole thing is having
his name aim on stuff that's been an old career life.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
The Kennedy Center.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, it's going to be the Trump White House soon.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Literally, say, even Democrats or in office is just going
to be the Trump white House forever.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
That's right,
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