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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Askdehollands dot com. Good morning, Chris, Good morning. Former Vice
President Dick Cheney has died. Historians widely regard him as
one of the most powerful vice presidents.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
In US history, no question. He was George W.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Bush's running mate and two successful campaigns for the presidency,
and probably the most influential White House advisor on foreign
policy ever. Now. The cause pneumonia and cardiac and vascular disease.
He had lifelong problems with heart conditions, five heart attacks,
five heart attacks.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He had a heart transplant into it as well.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I think one of the things I would say I
remember most about Dick Cheney is his audacity. If you
remember when he was selected to be the chairman of
the selection committee of the George W. Bush campaign in
two thousand to find a vice presidential candidate. He came
back to w and said, it's me. Yeah, I'm the guy.
(01:03):
I'm the best choice.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And I looked at all the other choices and I
decided I'm the best.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And went for it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The other thing is, as part of his legacy was
his insistence on weapons of mass destruction being in Iraq
and thus being the justification for the Iraq War in
two thousand and three, which turned out to be a
real blight on W's legacy and the history of you know,
foreign intervention. He was part of the neocons. Yep, those
(01:31):
were conservatives who believed in foreign intervention and activism with
our US military, and I think in retrospect a lot
of people discredited the idea that there was actual weapons
of mass destruction. But really, if you ever saw any
interviews with Dick Cheney, even until recently, he never wavered
from his belief that they were there somewhere and were
never found. He remained firm that it was the right
(01:54):
move to make to go into Iraq, whether there were
WMDs there or not, and thought that what that would
do to the region was worth it essentially. But the
interesting thing about Cheney is that he is such a
contrast to today's Republican party.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know, that was one of the points I was
going to make.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I mean, you look at a Cheney Republican compared to
a Trump Republican, and it's just a world of a difference.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, Donald Trump was always skeptical of the Iraq War.
He never believed in the arguments that Cheney was making
that there were wnd's over there. He viewed the Iraq
War as a waste of time and money. And if
you remember when Trump ran for president the first time
and Jeb Bush was on the debate stage in South Carolina,
Trump destroyed him on the issue of Iraq and the
(02:40):
legacy of his brother, Jesse brother. And so it's just
an interesting contrast when you look at today's Republicans, Trump
Republicans versus the neo cons of the two thousands.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, look at Dick Cheney's daughter, Liz Cheney persona and
Grana and the party at this point. So just going
back to Dick Cheney and his life and legacy. Served
as Wyoming Congressman. He was the White House Chief of
Staff under Gerald Ford, the youngest to hold the job.
Imagine being the White House chief of Staff and all
(03:10):
that comes along with that job at just thirty four
years old. It's hard to wrap your head around. Then
he became Defense Secretary and then like you said, Vice
President one of the most powerful, probably the most powerful
in history. Yeah, I mean his influence on everything post
nine to eleven. You wonder if he would have had
that much influence if foreign policy hadn't become.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
The dominant issue for George W.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Bush during his presidency, because you know, when Bush ran,
it wasn't foreign policy that was the main topic that
he was talking about to voters.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
W actually said he would not be the world's posman.
But then nine to eleven happened and everything changed, yep.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And then you know, you've got everything tied to Iraq
and WMDs, enhanced interrogations, all of that type. Cheney civil
liberties big issue there. He was very forceful in, you know,
wanting the government to use as much power as possible
to fight the.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
War on terror Patriot Act yep.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And and then I've got to mention the one thing
that just always stands out to me when it comes
to Dick Cheney, the Quail hunt in two thousand and six. Uh,
and the fact that he shot one of his friends
in the face with bird shot during that hunt. And
it was it was bad, I mean, shot him in
the face. The guy had to be transferred to a
(04:32):
Trauma Union. He was airlifted and they the White House
didn't announce the accident for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
They kept the quiet. The Vice President shot somebody with
bird shot in the face. Yeah, so there was that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But I mean, no question, regardless of what you think
about Dick Cheney, there is no question he had a
major impact on politics in this country for a pretty
long stretch.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, he's going to go down as a very influential
figure but also a divisive one. After weeks of speculation,
Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings has filed to run in
the twenty twenty six governor's race. Demings the second prominent
Democrat to join the field after former US Congressman David
jolly So. Demings has a long history if you know
(05:18):
Orlando and central Florida area. He may not be that
well known to other folks around the state, but he
has a remarkable career. He's a former law enforcement officer.
He started out as a beat cop in Orlando. He
became the Orlando Police Chief in nineteen ninety eight. He
then became the Orange County Public Safety Director before he
was elected sheriff, first black sheriff in Orange County history,
(05:41):
and of course he is the husband of Valdemics, another
successful figure who was a congresswoman in the US House.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And the running for vice president yes during Joe Biden's
first election bid back in twenty twenty. Didn't get chosen,
but she was certainly, you know, it seemed like in
the top five at the very least. Then ran for
Senate in twenty twenty two and lost that race. But
Jerry Demings and he oversaw with his law enforcement career,
big time investigations, Casey Anthony Florida and m hazing death
(06:16):
that was a big story here in the state, the
Paul S nightclub shooting obviously, and what I think is
really interesting and I mentioned this yesterday when we were
talking to Janelle Irwin Taylor from Southeast Politics about the
likelihood that Jerry Demings was going to get in the race.
You know, his law enforcement background. I think it's going
to be handled much differently in this race for governor
than it was when Val Demings was a potential pick
(06:39):
for vice president in twenty twenty because if you remember,
you know, that's in the aftermath of George Floyd and
her time as the former Orlando Police chief.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That didn't go over well in the death she ran
hard on that and yeah, totally backfir right right.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't think that's going to be an issue for him,
And that sets up a race on the Democratic side
of the aisle between Jerry Demmings and former Republican Congressman
now Democrat David Jolly. And you really have two candidates
there who are more in the middle. There really isn't
a progressive candidate in the race. I don't know if
(07:14):
that'll change, if somebody will try to take that lane.
But despite the fact, I don't think either has a
great shot at winning in the general election. Will be
an interesting primary between the two.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You know, Jerry Demmings, you know from my experience with him,
there's really not much to dislike about him. He's a
very likable figure, charismatic, but at the same time he
is understated, and we'll see if he has the charisma
to grab the fascination of Democrats statewide beyond the Orange
County area. You know, David Jolly has the advantage of
being a former congressman on MSNBC figure, so people on
(07:48):
the Democratic side are probably going to be more likely
familiar with him. They are Demings, but that's not to
underestimate Jerry Demmings. I mean, look, he was a successful
candidate for sheriff and also Orange County mayor, and some
people say has handled the whole issue with Governor de
Santus and Donald Trump as well as any Democratic elected
leader in the state. So we'll see if he can
(08:10):
turn that into a successful run for governor.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
If he were to win that primary, and Byron Donalds
were to win the Republican primary, as I think is
expected at least right now, then regardless of who would win,
I think Donalds would be the clear favorite. But you
would have Florida's first scubernatorial race between two black nominees.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
That would be interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So Christian and Bridget Ziegler back in the news, perfect
the prominent Republican power couple whose sex lives became public
as part of a video voyeurism and sexual assault investigation
in twenty twenty three, now suing the City of Sarasota
and the two detectives in the case. A federal lawsuit
(08:52):
was filed at the end of October. They're accusing the
department and the detectives of deliberate and egregious violations of
their fourth, fifth, and fourteenth Amendment rights.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Is a federal case.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
The investigation stemmed from a rape allegation, but it didn't
come up with enough evidence to charge Christian Ziegler with
a crime. Now he was the state chair of the
Republican Party. He was pressured into stepping down after all
of this came out, and his wife, Bridget was pressured
to leave the Sarasota School Board, although she did stay
(09:23):
on and is still there. So they obviously feel like
they were wronged by the way this was handled by
the city and the police, and they want money.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, they claimed there were a lot of leaks, and
we certainly learned a lot about them in their sex
lives and centered that whole controversy. Had a woman who
was maybe interested in meeting up with the both of them.
When she found out that Bridget, yeah, wasn't going to
be part of the interaction, she lost interest.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And it all kind of went downhill from there. So
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Look, the investigation, certainly a lot came out. I don't
know if at all had to come out. There was
a lot that you know, they gained access to detectives.
I don't know if they broken any constitutional rights there, but.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
It was definitely a weird thing. It was Bridget Ziegeler,
you know, the co founder of Moms for Liberty. Yeah,
and then she's allegedly involved in this threesome stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah. So we'll see where this case goes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We'll follow it very closely, including if any new interesting
details come out about the two of them.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That'll be interesting. Yep. Chris Frankman with today's Top Stories. Chris,
thanks so much, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
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Speaker 2 (10:43):
Good morning, Natalie, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Former Vice President Dick Cheney dead at the age of
eighty four. He served two terms under George W. Bush,
including during September eleventh, then was one of the most
powerful vice presidents in our history.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
The enemy we face today is bent on our destruction,
as in other times. We are in a war we
did not start, and I have no choice but to win.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
In a statement from his family, they say that he
died last night due to complications of pneumonia and cardiac
and vascular disease, which we knew he had battled for
years and including the heart transplant. In the early two
thousand he served as the youngest White House Chief of
Staff under President Ford, representing Wyoming and the House of
Representatives with Secretary of Defense under President George H. W. Bush,
(11:32):
and leader served two terms as VP under him. Dick
Cheney was eighty four years old and such a powerful figure.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, And the fact that he made it to eighty
four years old, having survived five heart attacks and a.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Art times trans yeah pretty approars. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And then I keep going back to his time as
White House Chief of Staff under Gerald Ford, holding that
job at thirty four years old.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I couldn't even be chief of staff in my own
life at thirty four years old. We even born that.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, that just seems like such a difficult thing
to be able to pull off at that age. And then,
like you said, Natalie, one of the most powerful vice
presidents in history, no question about that. Once nine to
eleven happened, foreign policy became front and center. That was
kind of his wheelhouse, and George W. Bush leaned heavily
on him from there on out. Obviously a controversial figure.
(12:24):
And then you've got the two thousand and six quail hunt,
which always stands out to me when I think of
Dick Cheney accidentally shooting his friend with bird shots. You know,
it was what happens, yeah, yeah, on a quail hunt,
one of those things where you know, just kind of
nailed him in the face and uh. And then one
thing that the person who got hit with the bird
shot had said is that Chaney never apologized to him
(12:47):
for sorry, never get him as I'm bad.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, you know, they they remain friends.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So I don't know how close you can be after
getting shot the face or bursho.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
But he doesn't apologize.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, but you also, I didn't apologize, never back down
from his decision to push for the war in Iraq
or weapons of mass destruction or anything like that. He
was very solidified in his convictions, and of course he
comes from a whole different Republican Party. You look at
Dick Cheney's views and policies and and his position within
the Republican Party back then to compare where and compare
(13:23):
to where the party is now, it's just night and day.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So I also think that's an interesting aspect to all
of this.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Sorry, what imagine an administration where it would be Trump
and Cheney together?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Could not? No, No, the answer is no. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't know if we've seen anything from President Trump
just yet.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm sure. I'm sure at some point he'll put something out.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Obviously they had big, big differences, and the President not
a fan of Dick Cheney's daughter, Liz Cheney, who's known
Greta and the party. Now I'm also seeing real quick.
We're going to talk more about the today's elections coming
up in a second, including the one for Miami mayor.
But two bomb threats received at New Jersey polling centers
and had some breaking news that we're monitoring. I hate
(14:06):
to see that, especially on election day. But again, we'll
try to learn more and bring that to you in
just a bit.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Absolutely, and as we're monitoring that, we did have a
town hall in the city of Miami last night at
issue the Affordable Care Acts, open enrollment being underway and
the premium increases being staggering. There were three Democratic senators,
including Senator Chris Murphy, who says that residents here in
the Sunshine State will suffer most.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean, the reality is the Republican Party in Washington
these days just takes instructions from Donald Trump, but right
now he's not paying attention to the crisis the people
in Florida are going through.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And Florida does lead the country with nearly five million
ac and release about a million of them live in
Miami Dade County.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
If there's one area I think where you could be
a Democrat and really try to hammer home the case
for like the shutdown and fighting for the enhanced subsidies
to continue, it's probably Miami Dade County where you've got,
like you said, Natalie, the most amount of people on
Obamacare in the country, just in the Democratic mayor Yeah, right,
(15:10):
just in Mario Diaz Blertz district alone. I think there's
like three hundred thousand in rollees. So you've got a
lot of people who are going to be seeing some
pretty staggering premium hikes. But I'll have a little bit
more on the shutdown where things stand, that issue obviously
at the center of it all, and how both sides
can find an off rampier coming up in a few minutes.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, absolutely, And as elections are taking place and so
many places across the country. Here in South Florida, in
particular Miami Beach, Surfside, Homestead, and Hialiah. Some of the
probably most notable races are in the city of Hyalia
and in Miami. Both voters in those cities will be
(15:51):
deciding on a new mayor.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Miami has been fascinating. That's the most fascinating race in
the state. No question really is if that just keeps
on giving.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We've got Miami's Mayor, Francis Suarez, who earlier in the
year touted his accomplishments as the forty third mayor for
the past eight years.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Today we find ourselves with the lowest talks rate in history,
military highest reserves in history, highest bond rating in history,
are the best credit We got an eight hundred credit score.
All the while we have the lewest unemployment in America.
So he's basically out of the position.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
No word on his future plans, but he may reinherit
his title as son on the mayor of Miami. Suarez's
father and a dozen other candidates are vying to take
his spot.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
How this is possible in South Florida, you know, just
to scratch your head, are you. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
The one thing I'm confident in I'm not going to
pick a winner here. I think there's going to be
a runoff. I don't think anybody's going to clear the
hurdle in this race, So I think there's going to
be a runoff in December. Yeah, but I think Democrat
Eileen Higgins probably has a good chance to get into
that runoff, and then it's probably between four Mayor Joe
Coroyo and former city manager Emelio Gonzalez. Those seem to
(17:05):
be the two potential favorites to get into that runoff.
But when you just look at this, You've got Francis
Suarez term limited, his dad who used to be the mayor,
running for mayor again. You've got former Mayor Joe Kroyo
running again. You've got Frank Coroyo. If he wins his
race for District Ree Miami City Commission, then the two
(17:27):
brothers will have controlled that same seat for two decades straight.
You've got like political dynasties in play in South Florida
in these elections. Yeah, I mean, you've got corruption allegations.
You've got Ken Russell, he's running on an anti corruption message.
You've got another who's fighting to recover from corruption charges.
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I mean, there are just a lot of different dynamics
at play in this race, so I think it's it's
certainly the most interesting and definitely the one with the
most storylines and the most can.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean, I think it's what thirteen candidates in this race, they.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Should have moving trucks doing specials for everybody that wants
to move out once the results come.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
In, right, So we will have those results for you
tomorrow morning. Here on the show, Natalie Rodriguez with today's
top stories. Natalie, thanks so much.
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Askdehollands dot com. Good morning, Chris, Good morning. Former Vice
President Dick Cheney has died. Historians widely regard him as
one of the most powerful vice presidents.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
In US history, no question. He was George W.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Bush's running mate and two successful campaigns for the presidency,
and probably the most influential White House advisor on foreign
policy ever. Now. The cause pneumonia and cardiac and vascular disease.
He had lifelong problems with heart conditions, five heart attacks,
five heart attacks.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He had a heart transplant into it as well.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I think one of the things I would say I
remember most about Dick Cheney is his audacity. If you
remember when he was selected to be the chairman of
the selection committee of the George W. Bush campaign in
two thousand to find a vice presidential candidate. He came
back to w and said, it's me. Yeah, I'm the guy.
(01:03):
I'm the best choice.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And I looked at all the other choices and I
decided I'm the best.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And went for it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The other thing is, as part of his legacy was
his insistence on weapons of mass destruction being in Iraq
and thus being the justification for the Iraq War in
two thousand and three, which turned out to be a
real blight on W's legacy and the history of you know,
foreign intervention. He was part of the neocons. Yep, those
(01:31):
were conservatives who believed in foreign intervention and activism with
our US military, and I think in retrospect a lot
of people discredited the idea that there was actual weapons
of mass destruction. But really, if you ever saw any
interviews with Dick Cheney, even until recently, he never wavered
from his belief that they were there somewhere and were
never found. He remained firm that it was the right
(01:54):
move to make to go into Iraq, whether there were
WMDs there or not, and thought that what that would
do to the region was worth it essentially. But the
interesting thing about Cheney is that he is such a
contrast to today's Republican party.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know, that was one of the points I was
going to make.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I mean, you look at a Cheney Republican compared to
a Trump Republican, and it's just a world of a difference.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, Donald Trump was always skeptical of the Iraq War.
He never believed in the arguments that Cheney was making
that there were wnd's over there. He viewed the Iraq
War as a waste of time and money. And if
you remember when Trump ran for president the first time
and Jeb Bush was on the debate stage in South Carolina,
Trump destroyed him on the issue of Iraq and the
(02:40):
legacy of his brother, Jesse brother. And so it's just
an interesting contrast when you look at today's Republicans, Trump
Republicans versus the neo cons of the two thousands.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, look at Dick Cheney's daughter, Liz Cheney persona and
Grana and the party at this point. So just going
back to Dick Cheney and his life and legacy. Served
as Wyoming Congressman. He was the White House Chief of
Staff under Gerald Ford, the youngest to hold the job.
Imagine being the White House chief of Staff and all
(03:10):
that comes along with that job at just thirty four
years old. It's hard to wrap your head around. Then
he became Defense Secretary and then like you said, Vice
President one of the most powerful, probably the most powerful
in history. Yeah, I mean his influence on everything post
nine to eleven. You wonder if he would have had
that much influence if foreign policy hadn't become.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
The dominant issue for George W.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Bush during his presidency, because you know, when Bush ran,
it wasn't foreign policy that was the main topic that
he was talking about to voters.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
W actually said he would not be the world's posman.
But then nine to eleven happened and everything changed, yep.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And then you know, you've got everything tied to Iraq
and WMDs, enhanced interrogations, all of that type. Cheney civil
liberties big issue there. He was very forceful in, you know,
wanting the government to use as much power as possible
to fight the.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
War on terror Patriot Act yep.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And and then I've got to mention the one thing
that just always stands out to me when it comes
to Dick Cheney, the Quail hunt in two thousand and six. Uh,
and the fact that he shot one of his friends
in the face with bird shot during that hunt. And
it was it was bad, I mean, shot him in
the face. The guy had to be transferred to a
(04:32):
Trauma Union. He was airlifted and they the White House
didn't announce the accident for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
They kept the quiet. The Vice President shot somebody with
bird shot in the face. Yeah, so there was that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But I mean, no question, regardless of what you think
about Dick Cheney, there is no question he had a
major impact on politics in this country for a pretty
long stretch.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, he's going to go down as a very influential
figure but also a divisive one. After weeks of speculation,
Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings has filed to run in
the twenty twenty six governor's race. Demings the second prominent
Democrat to join the field after former US Congressman David
jolly So. Demings has a long history if you know
(05:18):
Orlando and central Florida area. He may not be that
well known to other folks around the state, but he
has a remarkable career. He's a former law enforcement officer.
He started out as a beat cop in Orlando. He
became the Orlando Police Chief in nineteen ninety eight. He
then became the Orange County Public Safety Director before he
was elected sheriff, first black sheriff in Orange County history,
(05:41):
and of course he is the husband of Valdemics, another
successful figure who was a congresswoman in the US House.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And the running for vice president yes during Joe Biden's
first election bid back in twenty twenty. Didn't get chosen,
but she was certainly, you know, it seemed like in
the top five at the very least. Then ran for
Senate in twenty twenty two and lost that race. But
Jerry Demings and he oversaw with his law enforcement career,
big time investigations, Casey Anthony Florida and m hazing death
(06:16):
that was a big story here in the state, the
Paul S nightclub shooting obviously, and what I think is
really interesting and I mentioned this yesterday when we were
talking to Janelle Irwin Taylor from Southeast Politics about the
likelihood that Jerry Demings was going to get in the race.
You know, his law enforcement background. I think it's going
to be handled much differently in this race for governor
than it was when Val Demings was a potential pick
(06:39):
for vice president in twenty twenty because if you remember,
you know, that's in the aftermath of George Floyd and
her time as the former Orlando Police chief.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That didn't go over well in the death she ran
hard on that and yeah, totally backfir right right.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't think that's going to be an issue for him,
And that sets up a race on the Democratic side
of the aisle between Jerry Demmings and former Republican Congressman
now Democrat David Jolly. And you really have two candidates
there who are more in the middle. There really isn't
a progressive candidate in the race. I don't know if
(07:14):
that'll change, if somebody will try to take that lane.
But despite the fact, I don't think either has a
great shot at winning in the general election. Will be
an interesting primary between the two.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You know, Jerry Demmings, you know from my experience with him,
there's really not much to dislike about him. He's a
very likable figure, charismatic, but at the same time he
is understated, and we'll see if he has the charisma
to grab the fascination of Democrats statewide beyond the Orange
County area. You know, David Jolly has the advantage of
being a former congressman on MSNBC figure, so people on
(07:48):
the Democratic side are probably going to be more likely
familiar with him. They are Demings, but that's not to
underestimate Jerry Demmings. I mean, look, he was a successful
candidate for sheriff and also Orange County mayor, and some
people say has handled the whole issue with Governor de
Santus and Donald Trump as well as any Democratic elected
leader in the state. So we'll see if he can
(08:10):
turn that into a successful run for governor.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
If he were to win that primary, and Byron Donalds
were to win the Republican primary, as I think is
expected at least right now, then regardless of who would win,
I think Donalds would be the clear favorite. But you
would have Florida's first scubernatorial race between two black nominees.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
That would be interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So Christian and Bridget Ziegler back in the news, perfect
the prominent Republican power couple whose sex lives became public
as part of a video voyeurism and sexual assault investigation
in twenty twenty three, now suing the City of Sarasota
and the two detectives in the case. A federal lawsuit
(08:52):
was filed at the end of October. They're accusing the
department and the detectives of deliberate and egregious violations of
their fourth, fifth, and fourteenth Amendment rights.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Is a federal case.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
The investigation stemmed from a rape allegation, but it didn't
come up with enough evidence to charge Christian Ziegler with
a crime. Now he was the state chair of the
Republican Party. He was pressured into stepping down after all
of this came out, and his wife, Bridget was pressured
to leave the Sarasota School Board, although she did stay
(09:23):
on and is still there. So they obviously feel like
they were wronged by the way this was handled by
the city and the police, and they want money.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, they claimed there were a lot of leaks, and
we certainly learned a lot about them in their sex
lives and centered that whole controversy. Had a woman who
was maybe interested in meeting up with the both of them.
When she found out that Bridget, yeah, wasn't going to
be part of the interaction, she lost interest.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And it all kind of went downhill from there. So
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Look, the investigation, certainly a lot came out. I don't
know if at all had to come out. There was
a lot that you know, they gained access to detectives.
I don't know if they broken any constitutional rights there, but.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
It was definitely a weird thing. It was Bridget Ziegeler,
you know, the co founder of Moms for Liberty. Yeah,
and then she's allegedly involved in this threesome stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah. So we'll see where this case goes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We'll follow it very closely, including if any new interesting
details come out about the two of them.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That'll be interesting. Yep. Chris Frankman with today's Top Stories. Chris,
thanks so much, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
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Speaker 2 (10:43):
Good morning, Natalie, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Former Vice President Dick Cheney dead at the age of
eighty four. He served two terms under George W. Bush,
including during September eleventh, then was one of the most
powerful vice presidents in our history.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
The enemy we face today is bent on our destruction,
as in other times. We are in a war we
did not start, and I have no choice but to win.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
In a statement from his family, they say that he
died last night due to complications of pneumonia and cardiac
and vascular disease, which we knew he had battled for
years and including the heart transplant. In the early two
thousand he served as the youngest White House Chief of
Staff under President Ford, representing Wyoming and the House of
Representatives with Secretary of Defense under President George H. W. Bush,
(11:32):
and leader served two terms as VP under him. Dick
Cheney was eighty four years old and such a powerful figure.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, And the fact that he made it to eighty
four years old, having survived five heart attacks and a.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Art times trans yeah pretty approars. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And then I keep going back to his time as
White House Chief of Staff under Gerald Ford, holding that
job at thirty four years old.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I couldn't even be chief of staff in my own
life at thirty four years old. We even born that.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, that just seems like such a difficult thing
to be able to pull off at that age. And then,
like you said, Natalie, one of the most powerful vice
presidents in history, no question about that. Once nine to
eleven happened, foreign policy became front and center. That was
kind of his wheelhouse, and George W. Bush leaned heavily
on him from there on out. Obviously a controversial figure.
(12:24):
And then you've got the two thousand and six quail hunt,
which always stands out to me when I think of
Dick Cheney accidentally shooting his friend with bird shots. You know,
it was what happens, yeah, yeah, on a quail hunt,
one of those things where you know, just kind of
nailed him in the face and uh. And then one
thing that the person who got hit with the bird
shot had said is that Chaney never apologized to him
(12:47):
for sorry, never get him as I'm bad.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, you know, they they remain friends.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So I don't know how close you can be after
getting shot the face or bursho.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
But he doesn't apologize.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, but you also, I didn't apologize, never back down
from his decision to push for the war in Iraq
or weapons of mass destruction or anything like that. He
was very solidified in his convictions, and of course he
comes from a whole different Republican Party. You look at
Dick Cheney's views and policies and and his position within
the Republican Party back then to compare where and compare
(13:23):
to where the party is now, it's just night and day.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So I also think that's an interesting aspect to all
of this.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Sorry, what imagine an administration where it would be Trump
and Cheney together?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Could not? No, No, the answer is no. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't know if we've seen anything from President Trump
just yet.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm sure. I'm sure at some point he'll put something out.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Obviously they had big, big differences, and the President not
a fan of Dick Cheney's daughter, Liz Cheney, who's known
Greta and the party. Now I'm also seeing real quick.
We're going to talk more about the today's elections coming
up in a second, including the one for Miami mayor.
But two bomb threats received at New Jersey polling centers
and had some breaking news that we're monitoring. I hate
(14:06):
to see that, especially on election day. But again, we'll
try to learn more and bring that to you in
just a bit.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Absolutely, and as we're monitoring that, we did have a
town hall in the city of Miami last night at
issue the Affordable Care Acts, open enrollment being underway and
the premium increases being staggering. There were three Democratic senators,
including Senator Chris Murphy, who says that residents here in
the Sunshine State will suffer most.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean, the reality is the Republican Party in Washington
these days just takes instructions from Donald Trump, but right
now he's not paying attention to the crisis the people
in Florida are going through.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And Florida does lead the country with nearly five million
ac and release about a million of them live in
Miami Dade County.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
If there's one area I think where you could be
a Democrat and really try to hammer home the case
for like the shutdown and fighting for the enhanced subsidies
to continue, it's probably Miami Dade County where you've got,
like you said, Natalie, the most amount of people on
Obamacare in the country, just in the Democratic mayor Yeah, right,
(15:10):
just in Mario Diaz Blertz district alone. I think there's
like three hundred thousand in rollees. So you've got a
lot of people who are going to be seeing some
pretty staggering premium hikes. But I'll have a little bit
more on the shutdown where things stand, that issue obviously
at the center of it all, and how both sides
can find an off rampier coming up in a few minutes.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, absolutely, And as elections are taking place and so
many places across the country. Here in South Florida, in
particular Miami Beach, Surfside, Homestead, and Hialiah. Some of the
probably most notable races are in the city of Hyalia
and in Miami. Both voters in those cities will be
(15:51):
deciding on a new mayor.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Miami has been fascinating. That's the most fascinating race in
the state. No question really is if that just keeps
on giving.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We've got Miami's Mayor, Francis Suarez, who earlier in the
year touted his accomplishments as the forty third mayor for
the past eight years.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Today we find ourselves with the lowest talks rate in history,
military highest reserves in history, highest bond rating in history,
are the best credit We got an eight hundred credit score.
All the while we have the lewest unemployment in America.
So he's basically out of the position.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
No word on his future plans, but he may reinherit
his title as son on the mayor of Miami. Suarez's
father and a dozen other candidates are vying to take
his spot.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
How this is possible in South Florida, you know, just
to scratch your head, are you. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
The one thing I'm confident in I'm not going to
pick a winner here. I think there's going to be
a runoff. I don't think anybody's going to clear the
hurdle in this race, So I think there's going to
be a runoff in December. Yeah, but I think Democrat
Eileen Higgins probably has a good chance to get into
that runoff, and then it's probably between four Mayor Joe
Coroyo and former city manager Emelio Gonzalez. Those seem to
(17:05):
be the two potential favorites to get into that runoff.
But when you just look at this, You've got Francis
Suarez term limited, his dad who used to be the mayor,
running for mayor again. You've got former Mayor Joe Kroyo
running again. You've got Frank Coroyo. If he wins his
race for District Ree Miami City Commission, then the two
(17:27):
brothers will have controlled that same seat for two decades straight.
You've got like political dynasties in play in South Florida
in these elections. Yeah, I mean, you've got corruption allegations.
You've got Ken Russell, he's running on an anti corruption message.
You've got another who's fighting to recover from corruption charges.
(17:48):
I mean, there are just a lot of different dynamics
at play in this race, so I think it's it's
certainly the most interesting and definitely the one with the
most storylines and the most can.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean, I think it's what thirteen candidates in this race, they.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Should have moving trucks doing specials for everybody that wants
to move out once the results come.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
In, right, So we will have those results for you
tomorrow morning. Here on the show, Natalie Rodriguez with today's
top stories. Natalie, thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
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