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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today is day thirty seven of the government shutdown, and
yesterday there was a really really big development federal officials
cutting back the number of flights in US airspace starting
tomorrow morning. Here's Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy making the announcement.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
There is going to be a ten percent reduction in
capacity at forty.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Of our locations. Stuffy explained how the decision was made.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
This is not based on what airline travels has more
flights out of what location. This is about where's the
pressure and how do we alleviate the pressure.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
He also noted that more cancellations and longer delays are
likely once the reductions kick in, and Flight Radar twenty four,
which tracks air traffic, estimates that a ten percent overall
cut like the Transportation Secretary is talking about, will translate
to about five thousand flights impacted per day. But FA
Administrator Brian Bedford said this move had to be made.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
We're trying to lean into the fact that when we
see pressures building in these forty markets, we just can't
ignore it now.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Bedford added that he's never seen this happen before in
his thirty five year career. ABC News they were among
the first to get their hands on the list of
airports that will be affected, and it does include Tampa
International Airport, assuming there are no changes when the official
list is released today. The plan was outlined to the
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airlines on a call yesterday, and I really sent them scrambling.
They had to adjust their schedules with only thirty six
hours notice. United Airlines was quick to respond, noting in
a statement the customers looking for a refund on any
flight can get one, even if it's a non refundable ticket.
Frontier said that if you're flying tomorrow or in the
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next ten days and need to be somewhere, like really
need to be somewhere, they recommend booking a backup ticket
on another carrier, and a spokesperson for Southwest urged Congress
to immediately resolve its impasse. And remember it was air
travel disruptions that were the tipping point back in twenty
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nineteen that led to the end of that shutdown, and
it looks like that's going to be the case again
this time around. So if you are planning on traveling
over the next few days, there's gonna be some problem.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
It's just more proof that it needs to be resolved.
Before Thanksgiving because people are going to be mad.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's exactly right. That's the busiest travel week of the year.
You cannot have this go into Thanksgiving. I said, how
long have I been saying it for? It's only going
to get worse. Oh yeah, And it is getting worse
and tomorrow. That was a big, big announcement from the
Transportation Secretary in the FAA yesterday. So there have been
lots of hot takes about what these latest election results mean.
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And the person whom I agree with on this is
former White House Advisor Steve Bannon.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You're not going to hear that, Oh really. He's warning that.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The Democratic victories Tuesday night put Republicans in a tough
position ahead of next year's midterms. He said, the midterms
start tonight and the warning signs are flashing. And it's
interesting because that puts him at odds with the messaging
that's coming from Vice President j. D. Vance and Speaker
of the House Mike Johnson both insists nobody should be
freaking out over a few off year races, but Bannon
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told Politico there should be flashing red lights all over
and it was two down ballot races that didn't get
much attention that he pointed to two Georgia Democrats who
ran for Georgia Public Service Commissioner seats in Districts.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Two and three.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Defeated the two GOP incumbents, and according to the Atlanta
Journal Constitution, these are the first Democrats to win public
Service commission seats since two thousand plus, after thirteen years.
Mississippi Democrats broke the GOP supermajority in the Mississippi Senate
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by winning two seats that were previous held by Republicans.
He maybe wondering, who cares about these two little wins
in Georgia and Mississippi, But honestly, those results might be
the biggest warning signs for the GOP. And here's why.
It wasn't a huge surprise to see big races go
for Democrats in blue states, but these down ballot races
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they were in red states.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
President Trump spoke to Fox News yesterday and said this
about the election results.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I thought that.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
New Jersey would do better. I didn't think that Virginia
was going to do very well. I didn't think the candidate, well,
you know, it didn't really have my support, my big support.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And he had this advice for Republicans, and the country's
doing very well.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
But as Republicans, you have to talk about it because
if you don't talk about it, you know, I saw
that they kept talking about affordability. Well, Biden was a
disaster with affordability. He had the highest inflation rate in
the history of our country. But you have to talk
about it. It's no good if we do a great
job and you don't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So here's the problem with that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You can throw all kinds of numbers at voters and
tell them how great things are. If they're not feeling it,
if they're not seeing it in their finances, it's not
going to matter. This year alone, price of coffee up
twenty percent. People notice that price a beef of fifteen percent.
People see that when they go to the grocery store.
Health insurance premiums are up. People are having to make
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tough decisions during open enrollment. The tariffs are making it
tough on small businesses, and they're increasing prices for all
kinds of stuff. So it's not going to be enough
to say things are great now and they were bad
when Biden was in office. If Republicans want to hold
on to their majorities in twenty twenty six. Those promises
of a booming economy and lower prices, they're going to
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have to be felt by the public, and so far
the public is saying Republicans have some work to do.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
And I know you've seen prices. We've talked about this before.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, the price of everything has gone up, and I'm
looking at what my kids want for Christmas and thinking,
oh my gosh, how am I going to be able
to afford this? Yet no prices have really gone up,
and everybody is saying it too, Like I don't have
any friends who are like, oh, I'm doing much better
now that Trump's in office financially.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And look, Biden tried to make the case, and it
was true then the inflation rate was coming down while
he was in office, and he was trying to point
to you know, we're making progress with you.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
People didn't care. Okay, they don't care when they're trying
to make ends meet.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Right, Well, people see these tariffs and the price is
going up. Maybe it's going to work eventually, But it's
like the same thing with the insurance thing here in Florida,
that those solutions are going to work eventually.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, it's not working now exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And I think the holidays, like you said, I think
it's going to be a big moment for President Trump
and his policies and all of that, because if people
really feel like their money's not going very far this
holiday season again, that's just going to create more problems
for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Well didn't he say maybe you get two dolls instead
of thirty dollars?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
He said it. Americans don't want to hear dollars. That's
exactly right, kid.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Right now, let's bring in our national correspondent, Rory O'Neil,
whose reports brought to you by Mark Spain real Estate. So, Rory,
there were two big shutdown developments yesterday. You've got President
Trump pushing Republican Senators to nuke the filibuster to end it,
and then you had the FA announcing a ten percent
reduction in flights starting tomorrow. That's the one that I
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think has the better chance of leading to some kind
of a deal.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Well, right, And as I always say, those five hundred
and thirty five members of Congress are also members of
frequent flyers programs.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, they all.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Fly a lot, are in airports a lot, and they
see this for themselves. So as those ten percent reductions
start to roll out tomorrow again, that may make the
needle move. We do have Democrats meeting today. There's this
side plan being talked about that would essentially extend government
funding protect the Obamacare subsidies for a year. Question is
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how long does it last as it just go through
mid December and we start this again all the for Christmas?
Do you go through the holidays and then at that
point do you just start doing a full one year
cr and then how much of that is acceptable to
the House. So there's a lot going on there as
they're trying to figure out a way out of this.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, but I think we're reaching that point. And I
said it was coming. You know, this air travel situation
was only going to get worse now. According to ABC News,
the actual list of airports impacted by this reduction of
flights hasn't been revealed just yet, but ABC News is
reporting that Miami International, for Lauderdale, Hollywood International, Tampa International,
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Orlando all on that list. This is going to become
more real for more and more people, this shutdown. I
mean you've got Frontier saying that if you're flying tomorrow
or anytime over the course of the next ten days,
and you really got to get somewhere, Like it's a
light that you can't have canceled or delayed. You might
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want to book a backup ticket on another carrier.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I mean true tickets.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, now that's a problem. And going back to twenty nineteen,
what was then record long shutdown. Now it's been eclipsed
by this one. But that ended because of air travel disruptions.
That's what pushed things over the edge, and I think
that's going to be the case here too.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Oh well, and it's this idea too of if you
don't have to travel, wait, can I get my bunny back?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I'll give them the seat. I don't want to go
through all that. Can I get money? I don't want
to credit? I want to.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Get Does some airlines say you can get your money back?
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
United was saying that even if it's not a non
refundable ticket, you can get a refund at this point,
so airlines they're having to make all these different adjustments.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
And then when it comes to the filibuster.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I like in this earlier rory too, it being like
a sugar high, you know, it feels good eating all
that leftover Halloween candy. It's delicious, but in the long term,
you're gonna have some digestive problems, as apparently Dana has
been experiencing. You know, you're gonna have some problems with
your teeth, maybe gain a little weight, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So Republicans.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Republicans might feel great about it if they were to
do it now, but when Democrats start doing the things
they want to do without the filibuster, it's not going
to be so fun, right And I.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Know President Trump said, oh, the Democrats will get rid
of it the first chance.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
They get, but it didn't last last time.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yes, And you know now, granted the two votes that
stopped that, Kirston Cinema and Joe Manchin aren't there anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The two public votes that stopped it.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think there were quite a few others that didn't
want it to go away, but.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Long to get along, right and again, because especially these
senators who've been there a while, they've been in the minority,
they know how much the filibuster can protect them. That's
the whole idea, is to protect the minority voice so
that it doesn't have the wild swings that we see
in the House. The Senate is a bit more tempered,
and it's supposed to force these negotiations, but we just
haven't seen any talks happening. So, you know, because the
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house game that one bill, it was like that's it,
that's all you get. But this system is set up
to try to get these talks to write to compromise.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Let's switch to another story you're covering this morning real quick.
We're joined by our national correspondent, Rory O'Neil. Ups crash
is tragic. I mean, twelve dead, there could be more.
One I believe it was a child. I mean, just
a huge explosion that honestly could have been even worse.
There was a Ford Auto plant nearby with hundreds of
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people working at the time. Luckily that wasn't impacted by it,
Otherwise this could have been a real mass casualty event.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, just short of a restaurant too. Who's the other one?
I remember?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
There were there were three people on board the plane
as pilots who were going to take the flight from
Louisville to Hawaii. But these other deaths a total of
twelve includes the three pilots, so nine others on the ground.
There are several other people missing, so we think that
number is going to grow. But yeah, a lot of
fatalities on the ground connected to this. Obviously, the NTSB
focusing on that left engine. Why did it fall off?
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Was it a mounting issue, did it explode? All that
stuff yet to be determined, but they did get the
cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
All right.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Our national correspondent Rory O'Neil with US. Rory, appreciate the update.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Thanks so much, Thanks Ryan, And just going back to
that ups plane crash, that explosion. You've got to see
the reaction of the truck driver who's parked like right there.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Oh yeah, it's on our Facebook page at Ryan Gorman Show.
And the look on his face. I mean, imagine seeing
that happen right in front of your face, that massive explosion.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
There were a couple of big stories kind of dominated
the news yesterday, obviously all the fallout from Tuesday's elections,
the latest on the government shutdown, and the Supreme Court
hearing this case on President Trump's tariffs last week. We
talked to Sarah Esker from The Dispatch and did a
real deep dive into the case itself, the implications of
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the potential ruling from Supreme Court justices if they rule
for the president, if they rule against the president, what
that could mean. So, if you missed that conversation, check
it out on the podcast. You can find it on
your iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts, just
search for Ryan Gorman Show. Right now, let's go to
the hotline and check in with White House correspondent John Decker,
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who was there in the courtroom during that Supreme Court
hearing yesterday on Trump's tariff. So, John, what were some
of the key moments that you thought really stood out
as the Solicitor General was trying to make his case
to the justices that these tariffs should remain in place.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yeah, Ryan, I heard a lot of skepticism by the
nine justices, all nine, you know, including the conservatives, regarding
the position being presented by the Solicitor General representing President Trump.
And I heard that from conservative justices like Neil Gorsuch,
who raised a question to the Solicitor General saying, put
a democratic president impose fifty percent tariffs on countries that
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import into the United States fossil fuel automobiles. And he
acknowledged yes. So the same power that the president has
used and is seeking to use, could also be used
in a way that Republicans would not like in the future.
And then the lawyer Ryan that represents the importers that
brought this case in the first place, he said, why
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is Switzerland being hit with thirty nine percent tariffs? Thirty
nine percent tariff rate? The US actually has a trade
surplus with Switzerland. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, that was always one of the many issues that
were going to come up during this hearing. I thought
Chief Justice Roberts he really seemed to hone in on
whether or not the tariff power belongs to Congress, because
tariffs are, in a sense attacks on Americans. How did
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the Solicitor General try to defend that?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It was difficult.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Sometimes I got the sense that John Sower, and I've
seen them argue many cases on behalf of the Trump
administration as the Solicitor General. Sometimes I got the sense
that he did not feel strongly about his own case,
And you know, it was a parent sometimes in the
way that he answered certain questions and he actually acknowledged
things that were problematic for presenting a winning argument to
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these Supreme Court justices. The justices will render their decision
I think pretty quickly, likely by the end of this year,
by the end of December, and I think that the
Justices will likely rule six to three against the President
on this particular case.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Last thing for you, and again we're joined by our
White House correspondent John Decker Amy Tony Barrett. She did
bring up that, you know, this could cause a lot
of complications if they rule against the president, like what
do you do with the tear offf money that's been
collected up to this point.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Yeah, Well, as was pointed out by the lawyer, the
very capable lawyer representing the end He made the point,
this is not a class action lawsuit. So if indeed
the Supreme Court rules against the president, there could be refunds,
but only to the individuals that brought this case to
the firthplace. They would be the only individuals that would
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benefit in terms of refunds, not every other company in
the world that's imported products and has had to pay
tariffs on those products.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
All right, our White House correspondent John Decker again in
the court room yesterday for those Supreme Court oral arguments
on Trump's tariffs.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
John really appreciate timing insight. Thanks so much. Thanks Ryan,
Bye bye, and don't forget.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You can check out John Decker on the White House
Briefing Room podcast, which you can find on your iHeartRadio app.