October 3, 2025 • 18 mins
BEST OF - National Correspondent Rory O’Neill covers the government shutdown and concerns over ICE at the Super Bowl. President Donald Trump declares the U.S. is in an armed conflict with cartels. Kevin Cirilli, host of iHeartMedia’s Hello Future podcast, explains why UAPs have moved from fringe to front-page news. White House Correspondent Jon Decker also joins with the latest shutdown update.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Trump administration is making plans to lay off federal
workers if a shutdown continues, which it certainly is going
to do.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Today it is day three of the government's shutdown. No
votes scheduled on anything, probably not at least until Monday.
So we bring in our national correspondent Rory O'Neil to
give us an updates on what's going on. This report
brought to you by Mark Spain Real Estate. Morning, Rory,
And basically, let's just start off very simply. Where do
(00:28):
things stand with the shutdown, what's going to be impacted,
what isn't going to be impacted?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Where are we right now? Oh? Is that all? Is
that already agreed?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's all?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
That's all?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, So we have day three of the shutdown underway.
As you said, not really much chance of anything really
happening until next week. I think technically it could, but
it doesn't seem that many more Democrats are going to
flip over at this point to now support that clean
resolution that was passed in the House. If you want
a third option in some of this, well then you
would need House to be back in session.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And they're all scattered across the country.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Which is why practically speaking, nothing can even happen until Monday,
So it's a I think we're going to see a
lot more of that finger pointing.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Today.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
We have a couple of news conferences scheduled with each side,
but I think they're going to keep slinging mud until
people start really feeling the pain from this, either the
women at Infant's childhood nutrition program wick runs out of money.
When you see soldiers who are suddenly not getting paid,
or disruptions at airports, or people in the military families
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not getting reassigned new housing. When those kinds of things
start to pop up as being big problems, that's when
we'll start seeing some action.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, and just very quickly. For those people who might
be worried about their Social Security check that is not
impacted as a result of this, that comes from a
completely different fund. So if you're looking for your Social
Security check, don't worry. It will be coming, Yes it will.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, well well technically surely. Oh yeah, that's right, Yes,
I know where you're going. No more paper checks. Oh
that's right.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
It won't be in the mail, It'll be direct deposited
into your account.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's correct.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So right, so you should have already gotten that on
the first and then we'll see what happens, how long
this lasts going forward?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
All right, now, the other thing that seems to be
getting a lot of attention is the fact that up
to you know, several thousand workers as a matter of fact,
could lose their jobs as a result of this shutdown.
This is a unprecedented and be there are pear to
be questions about whether Trump has the authority to actually
do this.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, so we've heard the Trump administration Vice President Vance
say that they could be permanently firing many of the
people now furloughed. And this, don't forget the administration wants
to do things like close the Department of Education. So
is this the opportunity for President Trump to make those
kind of cuts that may be the recommendation from his
Office of Management and Budget russ Bote And even on
(03:00):
true social the President said, oh, I can't believe the
Democrats are giving me this power, and how short sighted
of them, and that kind of stuff. But again, there
are some questions about the legality what.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Can be done.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's likely going to end up in court anyway, but
some suggestion this could be a doze two point zero,
and we might get a lot more information about those cuts.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Today.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
We're talking to our national correspondent Rory O'Neil. So, Rory,
the other story you're following this morning, Ice at the
super Bowl and Bad Bunny. And I was out when
the announcement was made that Bad Bunny is going to
be the super Bowl performer. But what's going on with
Ice at the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So Bad Bunny is not performing in the US mainland
for his world tour because of all the Ice activities.
He says he's afraid that ICE will be at his
concerts and arrest people who are in the country illegally
at his shows. So this is why Corey Lewandowski, another
close Trump associate, was on a podcast this week saying,
oh yeah, well, Ice is going to be at the
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super where Bad Bunny will perform in February. Keep in mind,
by the way, Bad Bunny performed at the super Bowl
in Miami with Shakira a couple of years back.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I didn't notice. I was distracted at the time.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm not even sure I know completely who Bad Bunny is.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I really don't, and you are not yet. You and
I are not the demographic.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
No, I guess we are.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm not either, And when I heard that, I was like,
bad Bunny, Why And then I'm like, I'm old.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
That's why I'm old.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
We are getting old, and that's why the super Bowl
performers don't appeal to us.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And he is hosting the season premiere of Saturday Night
Live this weekend too. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
I mean he's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's just that he's right number two.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
He's number two behind Taylor Swift in all the streaming
services out there, global superstar. But a lot of people
are angry, like, oh, he's a cross dresser, maybe his
sexuality is fluid. He doesn't speak much English. So all
this stuff has fed a lot of some pretty hate online.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, I think we asked some of those questions about
David Bowie back in the day, didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
We, Right, people would have to have no history in order.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
To I know, I know, there I go, being old again.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I also think a lot a lot of people were
under the impression that it was going to be Taylor
Swift at the super Bowl because when she did that
that podcast with Travis Kelcey, she dropped all these little
easter eggs that seemed to make her fans think that
she was going to be performing at the super Bowl,
and then and then it was said that they would
love to have her at the super Bowl and all that,
and now I guess she's not doing it, or maybe
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it'll be tailor overshadowing Bad Bunny.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
What if she's his special guest? Could be so he
showed up with Shakira, and I don't think that was announced.
So here's the question that I have.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
All Right, if if this guy Bad Bunny has not
performed in the US because he is afraid of ice
showing up and disrupting things, maybe this may be a
stupid question. I understand that. But then why did he
agree to perform at the super Bowl in California.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Because it's the super Bowl? Yes, yes, but you know,
I really, I really think that's probably it. I probably
I think that, you know, he's making his political statement
about not performing in the US. But when it comes
to I mean, the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Is it's it's it's a big.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Deal deal, it's a big deal, and I think maybe
he decided, oh, well, you know what, my political you know,
stance is important, but also it's the super Bowl, so
I'm doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
All right? Well, you remember a couple of weeks ago,
we were you and I were talking about the video
that went viral of basically a drug cartel ship in
the Caribbean being obliterated by by a yea yeah, yeah,
blew it right up. Well, now, following up on that,
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President Trump basically is now saying that drug these drug
cartels and the Caribbean U are unlawful combatants and the
United States is now in armed conflict with them.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It is raised seeing some questions about how the White
House intends to use war powers and if Congress will
exert its authority to you know, approve or ban some
of these military actions. So, I mean, on one hand,
you know, I'm certainly not going to argue with going
after drug cartels wherever they may be, Mexico, Caribbean, I
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don't care. But yes, it does raise some questions about
whether this is.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
A legal action, right, Yeah, absolutely it does. And just
like you said, the drug issue is way out of control.
The way that it's been handled really doesn't seem to
be working. I don't know if this is going to
you know, really slow it down much, but I would
be willing to bet that the drug cartels probably a
little nervous out there. The other thing that you know,
makes me wonder is the intelligence that they're getting so
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that they know that these are drug ships. Yes, what
happens when they get it wrong. So that's another aspect
of all of this. But I think there have been
three drug ships that have been blown up so far
over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, this was all of this really comes from a memo,
I think a five page memo that was obtained by
the New York Times, and it lays out a rationale
for these attacks seen as the administration's justification for the
military strikes, and also, again, as I said a moment ago,
raise concerns from lawmakers as to whether or not they
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are potentially unlawful. So again something we will definitely have
to keep an ion going forward. You know, if to
be honest with you, if they're drug if they're bringing
drugs in, I don't have a problem if those ships
are right. Maybe this I'd hate to think it was
a fishing boat.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Right, Yeah, maybe this is a new way to combat
all the drugs that are coming into this country before
they you know, before they can come here and kill people.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, most of us still refer to them as UFOs,
but now the government calls them UAPs or unidentified aerial phenomena,
So whatever you want to call them, UFOs, UAPs, flying saucers.
They've moved from the fringe to the front page. Kevin
Sirilli is the host of iHeartMedia's new daily podcast, Hello
Future with Kevin Surrilla. He joins us now, Kevin, I
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think and stop me if I'm wrong, if you would.
Many people still believe the government is hiding something when
it comes to these UAPs. So are they and who
has the real story?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's all about transparency.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And it was just the other week when Congress held
the third hearing on UAPs and UFOs, and it really
has become increasingly more mainstream. It's not, you know, one
of those YouTube rabbit holes that you go down anymore.
Really smart people are asking really big questions. And there's
three points I want to make quickly. The first is
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they're asking these questions because our telescopes are getting better
and our technology is getting better, and we're actually being
able to capture some of these phenomenons. The second is
it's not just about transparency with the Pentagon and the
CIA and NASA and all of these government agencies. It's
also transparency with private industry. If a company gets access
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to a crash site or UAP or is studying UAPs,
then they might have an edge over the government over
other industries, and it's harder for the government and Congress
to get more access to these companies private data and materials. Finally,
the third point is we think about it from an
American perspective. What if the Chinese Communist Party or Russia
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or North Korea or Iran or any other bad actors
gets access to the technology from a UAP or a UFO,
then that puts America's national security at risk as well.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Why the secrecy, Like, do they think that the public
can't handle it, that there's something out there beyond our world?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Why?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Why is so much secrecy around this? Why has it
always just been something that the government's hiding.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's the question that I have, And that's the question
on Hello Future, the new show that I launched with
iHeart that I asked to the astrophysicists and to the
space experts, and I said, point blank, literally your question
and what this really David Leonard, who's an iconic space journalist,
what he said to me was, it's not necessarily sarily
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that they're trying to hide it. From a national security standpoint,
it's how you disclose classified material.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
As a very long, arduous process.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
First and foremost to the government has to make sure
that they understand what it is exactly that they're studying,
and if they don't have the answers to those questions,
it's very hard for them to communicate to the public
what it is. So they got to get their own
head around it. Then the second part of the question,
or the second part of the answer rather is they
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also don't necessarily want to disclose what they know to
bad actors because if it is other technology or it
is another type of phenomenon, they don't want necessarily our
adversaries to know that we know that information or for
them to have access to it. So it's from a
national security perspective as well.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, Kevin, you raise a very good point there, I
think is that I bet that national security thing keeps
some people at the Pentagon up all night long.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well precisely, and you know, but what's interesting now is
that I believe we're at the start of the next
industrial revolution and the space industry by the year twenty
thirty two is going to be a one trillion dollar industry.
And I interview on the podcast The Space Foundation to
tell me about just that's bigger than the gaming industry
in the United States. It's massive, and we don't even
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talk about it. I mean, when you even all you
got to do is turn on the news and look
at the government shutdown for how you know, small minded?
The policy debated Washington, DC is no one's thinking about
all of the other possibilities and the science and the
breakthroughs that we've made just with the new telescopes that
we have at our disposal. So I think when you
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look at it from the perspective of the economics and
this space industry and privatize space industry, We've got ten
thousand satellites orbiting around the planet right now, there's only
about ten around the Moon and another ten around Mars.
When you think of just how fast that's going to
change how we talk about data centers for artificial intelligence.
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The other half of the space conversation is all cyber
If we've got ten thousand satellites orbiting our planet, why
not put data centers on the moon in order to
power our artificial intelligence revolution in America. Why should a
human care about this? Why does it impact their life?
Because if we can build that on the Moon, why
can't we put it in rural America or underserved parts
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of our country, or other underserved parts of our planet
in Africa, for example, And Lord forbid in the wake
of a tragedy, If we're able to quickly mobilize the
technology on the Moon or on Mars, what makes you
think we couldn't do it after a hurricane or somewhere else.
So that type of thinking is going to be what
drives the next era of American renaissance.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
All right, futurist Kevin Serrilli, the host of iHeartMedia's Hello
Future with Kevin Serrilli the podcast. We thank you very
much for joining us, and we continue our coverage of
day three of the federal government shutdown. On this Friday morning,
we bring in White House correspondent John Decker to the program. John,
Good morning, And I guess maybe the first and most
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important thing to get out there is that, in all likelihood,
nothing is going to be decided today, no vote scheduled,
although I'm sure there'll probably be quite a few conversations
behind some closed doors, but probably nothing definitive until next week.
How's that sound.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Well, my understanding is that there actually will be a
vote today that will take place in the Senate at
one thirty in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I do not.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Expect, however, that CR to pass to get the necessary
sixty votes that are necessary to pass to move it
forward in that procedural vote. But having said that, I
am optimistic that by this time next week, I believe
that the government showed cutdown will be over. I've covered
so many of them over the years. The first one
I covered way back in nineteen ninety five, thirty years ago,
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and the people that were involved in yeah, nuke Gingrich
and Bill Clinton and Bob Dole. Obviously a different makeup
of the protagonists here. But as you know, we are
in day three and the last government shutdown much longer
that was in President Trump's first term. That was thirty
four days. I don't think the shutdown will be that long.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
So, John, I just wanted to tell you real quick
that I've enjoyed your White House Briefing Room podcast. I
listened to it. I listened to it on my way
in in the morning. So I feel like, you know
anything that I might have missed the day before, I'm
really caught up. So I appreciate your podcast a lot.
It's great, so we've seen it. Appreciate that, you know
the memes and the AI Sombrero videos, the live streams,
(15:50):
the blame game. But what's actually going on, you know,
behind the scenes, like the serious work. Who are the
key players that are either going to make or break
this and end the shutdown?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Well, the most serious player is President Trump. If President
Trump gives the green light to strike a deal, then
the deal will happen. That's how important he is in
the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Now.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
He certainly listens to a number of his advisors, he
listens to the Vice president on this, he listens to
his omb director Russell Vote. But the President is the
decision maker, and so I'm certainly focused on him. But
I'm also focused on the ten US senators who are
Democrats who voted for the CR back in March, because
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really nothing has changed. The language is the same in
this CR as in that CR, and I think it's
going to be a lot of pressure for those individuals
to explain why do they support it Back in March,
but they're not supporting it right now.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It does seem like one of the new things, if
you will, that distinguishes this shut down from your first
one in nineteen ninety five was the fact but we
may see a lot of workers fired as a result
of this. What might the impact of that be.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Well, that's right, that's the threat that's coming from the president,
that's coming from the OMB director Russell vote, is that
there won't be just furloughs, which is the norm for
government shutdowns, people essentially being told don't report to work
right now, but actual layoffs, and yesterday Caroline Levitt that
they could number in the thousands. I think that is
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just a pressure tactic more than anything else. I think
that you know, if there were layoffs, it would impact
red states just as much as blue states for those
federal workers, and that's something that you don't want to see.
So that being said, it is pressure, and I think
that Democrats ultimately succumb to this pressure. It's not good
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to have a government shutdown. Republicans have found that out
repeatedly during past government shutdowns, and I believe that Democrats
will hear from their constituents over the course of the
next few days leading up to next week, and that's
what gives me the confidence that it will be resolved
relatively soon.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
All Right, whine House correspondent John Decker with the latest
on the government shutdown. John, as always a pleasure, Thank
you very much.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
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The Trump administration is making plans to lay off federal
workers if a shutdown continues, which it certainly is going
to do.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Today it is day three of the government's shutdown. No
votes scheduled on anything, probably not at least until Monday.
So we bring in our national correspondent Rory O'Neil to
give us an updates on what's going on. This report
brought to you by Mark Spain Real Estate. Morning, Rory,
And basically, let's just start off very simply. Where do
(00:28):
things stand with the shutdown, what's going to be impacted,
what isn't going to be impacted?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Where are we right now? Oh? Is that all? Is
that already agreed?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's all?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
That's all?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, So we have day three of the shutdown underway.
As you said, not really much chance of anything really
happening until next week. I think technically it could, but
it doesn't seem that many more Democrats are going to
flip over at this point to now support that clean
resolution that was passed in the House. If you want
a third option in some of this, well then you
would need House to be back in session.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And they're all scattered across the country.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Which is why practically speaking, nothing can even happen until Monday,
So it's a I think we're going to see a
lot more of that finger pointing.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Today.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
We have a couple of news conferences scheduled with each side,
but I think they're going to keep slinging mud until
people start really feeling the pain from this, either the
women at Infant's childhood nutrition program wick runs out of money.
When you see soldiers who are suddenly not getting paid,
or disruptions at airports, or people in the military families
(01:33):
not getting reassigned new housing. When those kinds of things
start to pop up as being big problems, that's when
we'll start seeing some action.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, and just very quickly. For those people who might
be worried about their Social Security check that is not
impacted as a result of this, that comes from a
completely different fund. So if you're looking for your Social
Security check, don't worry. It will be coming, Yes it will.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, well well technically surely. Oh yeah, that's right, Yes,
I know where you're going. No more paper checks. Oh
that's right.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
It won't be in the mail, It'll be direct deposited
into your account.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's correct.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So right, so you should have already gotten that on
the first and then we'll see what happens, how long
this lasts going forward?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
All right, now, the other thing that seems to be
getting a lot of attention is the fact that up
to you know, several thousand workers as a matter of fact,
could lose their jobs as a result of this shutdown.
This is a unprecedented and be there are pear to
be questions about whether Trump has the authority to actually
do this.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, so we've heard the Trump administration Vice President Vance
say that they could be permanently firing many of the
people now furloughed. And this, don't forget the administration wants
to do things like close the Department of Education. So
is this the opportunity for President Trump to make those
kind of cuts that may be the recommendation from his
Office of Management and Budget russ Bote And even on
(03:00):
true social the President said, oh, I can't believe the
Democrats are giving me this power, and how short sighted
of them, and that kind of stuff. But again, there
are some questions about the legality what.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Can be done.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's likely going to end up in court anyway, but
some suggestion this could be a doze two point zero,
and we might get a lot more information about those cuts.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Today.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
We're talking to our national correspondent Rory O'Neil. So, Rory,
the other story you're following this morning, Ice at the
super Bowl and Bad Bunny. And I was out when
the announcement was made that Bad Bunny is going to
be the super Bowl performer. But what's going on with
Ice at the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So Bad Bunny is not performing in the US mainland
for his world tour because of all the Ice activities.
He says he's afraid that ICE will be at his
concerts and arrest people who are in the country illegally
at his shows. So this is why Corey Lewandowski, another
close Trump associate, was on a podcast this week saying,
oh yeah, well, Ice is going to be at the
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super where Bad Bunny will perform in February. Keep in mind,
by the way, Bad Bunny performed at the super Bowl
in Miami with Shakira a couple of years back.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I didn't notice. I was distracted at the time.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm not even sure I know completely who Bad Bunny is.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I really don't, and you are not yet. You and
I are not the demographic.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
No, I guess we are.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm not either, And when I heard that, I was like,
bad Bunny, Why And then I'm like, I'm old.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
That's why I'm old.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
We are getting old, and that's why the super Bowl
performers don't appeal to us.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And he is hosting the season premiere of Saturday Night
Live this weekend too. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
I mean he's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's just that he's right number two.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
He's number two behind Taylor Swift in all the streaming
services out there, global superstar. But a lot of people
are angry, like, oh, he's a cross dresser, maybe his
sexuality is fluid. He doesn't speak much English. So all
this stuff has fed a lot of some pretty hate online.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, I think we asked some of those questions about
David Bowie back in the day, didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
We, Right, people would have to have no history in order.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
To I know, I know, there I go, being old again.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I also think a lot a lot of people were
under the impression that it was going to be Taylor
Swift at the super Bowl because when she did that
that podcast with Travis Kelcey, she dropped all these little
easter eggs that seemed to make her fans think that
she was going to be performing at the super Bowl,
and then and then it was said that they would
love to have her at the super Bowl and all that,
and now I guess she's not doing it, or maybe
(05:33):
it'll be tailor overshadowing Bad Bunny.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
What if she's his special guest? Could be so he
showed up with Shakira, and I don't think that was announced.
So here's the question that I have.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
All Right, if if this guy Bad Bunny has not
performed in the US because he is afraid of ice
showing up and disrupting things, maybe this may be a
stupid question. I understand that. But then why did he
agree to perform at the super Bowl in California.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Because it's the super Bowl? Yes, yes, but you know,
I really, I really think that's probably it. I probably
I think that, you know, he's making his political statement
about not performing in the US. But when it comes
to I mean, the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Is it's it's it's a big.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Deal deal, it's a big deal, and I think maybe
he decided, oh, well, you know what, my political you know,
stance is important, but also it's the super Bowl, so
I'm doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
All right? Well, you remember a couple of weeks ago,
we were you and I were talking about the video
that went viral of basically a drug cartel ship in
the Caribbean being obliterated by by a yea yeah, yeah,
blew it right up. Well, now, following up on that,
(06:47):
President Trump basically is now saying that drug these drug
cartels and the Caribbean U are unlawful combatants and the
United States is now in armed conflict with them.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It is raised seeing some questions about how the White
House intends to use war powers and if Congress will
exert its authority to you know, approve or ban some
of these military actions. So, I mean, on one hand,
you know, I'm certainly not going to argue with going
after drug cartels wherever they may be, Mexico, Caribbean, I
(07:22):
don't care. But yes, it does raise some questions about
whether this is.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
A legal action, right, Yeah, absolutely it does. And just
like you said, the drug issue is way out of control.
The way that it's been handled really doesn't seem to
be working. I don't know if this is going to
you know, really slow it down much, but I would
be willing to bet that the drug cartels probably a
little nervous out there. The other thing that you know,
makes me wonder is the intelligence that they're getting so
(07:48):
that they know that these are drug ships. Yes, what
happens when they get it wrong. So that's another aspect
of all of this. But I think there have been
three drug ships that have been blown up so far
over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, this was all of this really comes from a memo,
I think a five page memo that was obtained by
the New York Times, and it lays out a rationale
for these attacks seen as the administration's justification for the
military strikes, and also, again, as I said a moment ago,
raise concerns from lawmakers as to whether or not they
(08:23):
are potentially unlawful. So again something we will definitely have
to keep an ion going forward. You know, if to
be honest with you, if they're drug if they're bringing
drugs in, I don't have a problem if those ships
are right. Maybe this I'd hate to think it was
a fishing boat.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Right, Yeah, maybe this is a new way to combat
all the drugs that are coming into this country before
they you know, before they can come here and kill people.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, most of us still refer to them as UFOs,
but now the government calls them UAPs or unidentified aerial phenomena,
So whatever you want to call them, UFOs, UAPs, flying saucers.
They've moved from the fringe to the front page. Kevin
Sirilli is the host of iHeartMedia's new daily podcast, Hello
Future with Kevin Surrilla. He joins us now, Kevin, I
(09:12):
think and stop me if I'm wrong, if you would.
Many people still believe the government is hiding something when
it comes to these UAPs. So are they and who
has the real story?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's all about transparency.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And it was just the other week when Congress held
the third hearing on UAPs and UFOs, and it really
has become increasingly more mainstream. It's not, you know, one
of those YouTube rabbit holes that you go down anymore.
Really smart people are asking really big questions. And there's
three points I want to make quickly. The first is
(09:45):
they're asking these questions because our telescopes are getting better
and our technology is getting better, and we're actually being
able to capture some of these phenomenons. The second is
it's not just about transparency with the Pentagon and the
CIA and NASA and all of these government agencies. It's
also transparency with private industry. If a company gets access
(10:07):
to a crash site or UAP or is studying UAPs,
then they might have an edge over the government over
other industries, and it's harder for the government and Congress
to get more access to these companies private data and materials. Finally,
the third point is we think about it from an
American perspective. What if the Chinese Communist Party or Russia
(10:31):
or North Korea or Iran or any other bad actors
gets access to the technology from a UAP or a UFO,
then that puts America's national security at risk as well.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Why the secrecy, Like, do they think that the public
can't handle it, that there's something out there beyond our world?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Why?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Why is so much secrecy around this? Why has it
always just been something that the government's hiding.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's the question that I have, And that's the question
on Hello Future, the new show that I launched with
iHeart that I asked to the astrophysicists and to the
space experts, and I said, point blank, literally your question
and what this really David Leonard, who's an iconic space journalist,
what he said to me was, it's not necessarily sarily
(11:18):
that they're trying to hide it. From a national security standpoint,
it's how you disclose classified material.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
As a very long, arduous process.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
First and foremost to the government has to make sure
that they understand what it is exactly that they're studying,
and if they don't have the answers to those questions,
it's very hard for them to communicate to the public
what it is. So they got to get their own
head around it. Then the second part of the question,
or the second part of the answer rather is they
(11:47):
also don't necessarily want to disclose what they know to
bad actors because if it is other technology or it
is another type of phenomenon, they don't want necessarily our
adversaries to know that we know that information or for
them to have access to it. So it's from a
national security perspective as well.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, Kevin, you raise a very good point there, I
think is that I bet that national security thing keeps
some people at the Pentagon up all night long.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well precisely, and you know, but what's interesting now is
that I believe we're at the start of the next
industrial revolution and the space industry by the year twenty
thirty two is going to be a one trillion dollar industry.
And I interview on the podcast The Space Foundation to
tell me about just that's bigger than the gaming industry
in the United States. It's massive, and we don't even
(12:36):
talk about it. I mean, when you even all you
got to do is turn on the news and look
at the government shutdown for how you know, small minded?
The policy debated Washington, DC is no one's thinking about
all of the other possibilities and the science and the
breakthroughs that we've made just with the new telescopes that
we have at our disposal. So I think when you
(12:56):
look at it from the perspective of the economics and
this space industry and privatize space industry, We've got ten
thousand satellites orbiting around the planet right now, there's only
about ten around the Moon and another ten around Mars.
When you think of just how fast that's going to
change how we talk about data centers for artificial intelligence.
(13:18):
The other half of the space conversation is all cyber
If we've got ten thousand satellites orbiting our planet, why
not put data centers on the moon in order to
power our artificial intelligence revolution in America. Why should a
human care about this? Why does it impact their life?
Because if we can build that on the Moon, why
can't we put it in rural America or underserved parts
(13:39):
of our country, or other underserved parts of our planet
in Africa, for example, And Lord forbid in the wake
of a tragedy, If we're able to quickly mobilize the
technology on the Moon or on Mars, what makes you
think we couldn't do it after a hurricane or somewhere else.
So that type of thinking is going to be what
drives the next era of American renaissance.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
All right, futurist Kevin Serrilli, the host of iHeartMedia's Hello
Future with Kevin Serrilli the podcast. We thank you very
much for joining us, and we continue our coverage of
day three of the federal government shutdown. On this Friday morning,
we bring in White House correspondent John Decker to the program. John,
Good morning, And I guess maybe the first and most
(14:21):
important thing to get out there is that, in all likelihood,
nothing is going to be decided today, no vote scheduled,
although I'm sure there'll probably be quite a few conversations
behind some closed doors, but probably nothing definitive until next week.
How's that sound.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Well, my understanding is that there actually will be a
vote today that will take place in the Senate at
one thirty in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I do not.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Expect, however, that CR to pass to get the necessary
sixty votes that are necessary to pass to move it
forward in that procedural vote. But having said that, I
am optimistic that by this time next week, I believe
that the government showed cutdown will be over. I've covered
so many of them over the years. The first one
I covered way back in nineteen ninety five, thirty years ago,
(15:08):
and the people that were involved in yeah, nuke Gingrich
and Bill Clinton and Bob Dole. Obviously a different makeup
of the protagonists here. But as you know, we are
in day three and the last government shutdown much longer
that was in President Trump's first term. That was thirty
four days. I don't think the shutdown will be that long.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
So, John, I just wanted to tell you real quick
that I've enjoyed your White House Briefing Room podcast. I
listened to it. I listened to it on my way
in in the morning. So I feel like, you know
anything that I might have missed the day before, I'm
really caught up. So I appreciate your podcast a lot.
It's great, so we've seen it. Appreciate that, you know
the memes and the AI Sombrero videos, the live streams,
(15:50):
the blame game. But what's actually going on, you know,
behind the scenes, like the serious work. Who are the
key players that are either going to make or break
this and end the shutdown?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Well, the most serious player is President Trump. If President
Trump gives the green light to strike a deal, then
the deal will happen. That's how important he is in
the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Now.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
He certainly listens to a number of his advisors, he
listens to the Vice president on this, he listens to
his omb director Russell Vote. But the President is the
decision maker, and so I'm certainly focused on him. But
I'm also focused on the ten US senators who are
Democrats who voted for the CR back in March, because
(16:36):
really nothing has changed. The language is the same in
this CR as in that CR, and I think it's
going to be a lot of pressure for those individuals
to explain why do they support it Back in March,
but they're not supporting it right now.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It does seem like one of the new things, if
you will, that distinguishes this shut down from your first
one in nineteen ninety five was the fact but we
may see a lot of workers fired as a result
of this. What might the impact of that be.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Well, that's right, that's the threat that's coming from the president,
that's coming from the OMB director Russell vote, is that
there won't be just furloughs, which is the norm for
government shutdowns, people essentially being told don't report to work
right now, but actual layoffs, and yesterday Caroline Levitt that
they could number in the thousands. I think that is
(17:29):
just a pressure tactic more than anything else. I think
that you know, if there were layoffs, it would impact
red states just as much as blue states for those
federal workers, and that's something that you don't want to see.
So that being said, it is pressure, and I think
that Democrats ultimately succumb to this pressure. It's not good
(17:50):
to have a government shutdown. Republicans have found that out
repeatedly during past government shutdowns, and I believe that Democrats
will hear from their constituents over the course of the
next few days leading up to next week, and that's
what gives me the confidence that it will be resolved
relatively soon.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
All Right, whine House correspondent John Decker with the latest
on the government shutdown. John, as always a pleasure, Thank
you very much.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
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