October 6, 2025 • 7 mins
ABC News Correspondent Jordana Miller joins us live from Jerusalem with an update on the Middle East peace talks and the likelihood of reaching a deal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now, let's go to the hotline and bring in
ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller coming to us live from Israel. So, Jordana,
it sounds like this is going to be a pivotal
week for Middle East peace and today a key day
with talks set to begin in Egypt. Tell us who
will be part of these talks and where things stand
(00:21):
with President Trump's Middle East peace deal.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, as you said, today is going to be a
very critical day. It is the start of ceasefire talks
based on President Trump's plan in Charmelshek, Egypt. Attending will
be delegations from Israel, from Hamas, the Kataris, the Egyptians.
They will be mediating this first round. And the aim,
(00:48):
really Ryan is to get through what everyone is calling
Case one, that is iron out the details of the
release of all of the Israeli hostages, a living in debt.
And remember there's twenty presumed a live twenty eight bodies,
that's forty eight in total, in exchange for what will
look like over two thousand jailed Palestinians. They have to
(01:12):
hammer out the list of names of those Palestinians terrorists
who are serving life sentences who's going to get out,
who's not. About two hundred or so are expected to
be released, and where they will go. In the meantime,
Hamas also has to locate right all of the bodies.
(01:32):
It appears that the living hostages, Hamas can access them
and knows where they are. That's what we've heard from
Israeli sources. But the bodies of the twenty eight will
be harder. So that has to you know, that that
has to be ironed out. And you know, will it
be in the will it be seventy two hours after this,
(01:53):
after all the details are hammered out, Will Hamas recommend
a few extra days may be able to week to
get them all out. So this is the most important
and critical phase. And by the way, you know, we
have to remember and listen to what the Israelis and
Americans are saying. It will be so critical because if
indeed Hamas agrees to turn over all those hostages, which
(02:15):
is basically their political capital, right, that's all the leverage
they have. If they're willing to give up all of
the hostages, then indeed we may be on the way
to the end of this war. Hamas may agree to
other things, right like giving up control of the Gaza strip,
turning over their weapons. Right, even though there's still a
(02:37):
lot of details on that end as well, but the
initial goals to get through the first technical details and
rather quickly in the next few days.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I thought it was interesting President Trump, he gave a
lot of credit to Turkish President Erdawan for pushing Hamas
to cooperate. And it does sound like between Turkey, Cutter
and a few others really has been a coordinated campaign
to pressure Hamas to agree to this and to take
(03:06):
these next steps.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Absolutely, Turkey really did. It appears play a very critical role.
Remember Hamas leaders sometimes they you know, they reside not
only in Doha, in Cutter, but they reside in Turkey, right,
They have homes there, they have family members there. So
Turkey has some you know, serious leverage over Hamas. Right
(03:32):
in other words, you know, take this deal, you know,
game over, or possibly, for example, Turkey could threaten to
dispel or kick out AMAS leaders from Turkey.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Remember Erdawan just witnessed the Israelis try to kill Hamas
leaders in Doha. It failed.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
There's lots of debate and series about how that has
impacted the unfolding events. We're seeing. But you know, we
can be certain that the Turkish president thought, you know,
with these relies, maybe they're going to go after Hamas
leaders in Istanbul right or Ankra right. So there's leverage
(04:14):
that Turkey can exert. And Turkey has a good relationship
with President you know, Ertawan has a strong relationship with
President Trump. And Erdawan's looking for other security, you know,
military assets from the United States as well. So there's
a lot of reasons why Turkey finally kind of put
(04:35):
their foot, if you will, on Hamas's neck.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
We're joined by ABC News correspondent Sjordana Miller, come into
us live from Israel. Let's talk about Israel for a second,
because they paused their offensive operations in Gaza. You had
Trump urging them to halt air strikes on Friday to
let all of this play out. And then there were
some reports that Benjamin that Yahoo Israeli Prime Minister was
(05:03):
a little down on Hamas's response, a little negative, and
apparently the President wasn't very happy with that. What have
you learned about that dynamic?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, I think initially there was you know, there were
contrasting interpretations of Hamas's response to the President's plan for Gaza.
I think the Israeli Prime minister didn't see that Hamas
agreed too much. And we have to say Hamas agreed
(05:37):
to there's twenty points. It appears that Hamas has agreed
to two or three of them, right, releasing the hostages,
you know, in exchange for the Palestinian prisoners, and you know,
turning over ceding power to another entity right in the
Gaza strip. But there's so much that actually Hamas walked
(06:00):
still to negotiate, right and make changes on and I
think that's what the Israeli Prime Minister and most of
these really initially saw. But listen, President, he may have
also seen, you know, what was missing, but he wanted
to push through Hamas's response whatever was positive and get
Hamas in a corner to back down and the war.
(06:23):
And I think, you know, Trump chose a wise path.
Even though it wasn't a full yes, right, it doesn't matter.
He'll probably get he'll get eighty percent of a yes
in the end, that's what many believe, and that's really
good enough to end this war. Again. There are details
that have to be hammered out, and even the President said,
(06:44):
you know, there may be some changes, right, but that's okay.
The question is how long will it take for all
of that to be negotiated? Right?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, And today is step one in Egypt. Jordana Miller,
ABC News correspondent coming to his live from Israel with
all the latest to Donna. Thanks so much, thank you,
Thank you all appreciate it.
Right now, let's go to the hotline and bring in
ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller coming to us live from Israel. So, Jordana,
it sounds like this is going to be a pivotal
week for Middle East peace and today a key day
with talks set to begin in Egypt. Tell us who
will be part of these talks and where things stand
(00:21):
with President Trump's Middle East peace deal.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, as you said, today is going to be a
very critical day. It is the start of ceasefire talks
based on President Trump's plan in Charmelshek, Egypt. Attending will
be delegations from Israel, from Hamas, the Kataris, the Egyptians.
They will be mediating this first round. And the aim,
(00:48):
really Ryan is to get through what everyone is calling
Case one, that is iron out the details of the
release of all of the Israeli hostages, a living in debt.
And remember there's twenty presumed a live twenty eight bodies,
that's forty eight in total, in exchange for what will
look like over two thousand jailed Palestinians. They have to
(01:12):
hammer out the list of names of those Palestinians terrorists
who are serving life sentences who's going to get out,
who's not. About two hundred or so are expected to
be released, and where they will go. In the meantime,
Hamas also has to locate right all of the bodies.
(01:32):
It appears that the living hostages, Hamas can access them
and knows where they are. That's what we've heard from
Israeli sources. But the bodies of the twenty eight will
be harder. So that has to you know, that that
has to be ironed out. And you know, will it
be in the will it be seventy two hours after this,
(01:53):
after all the details are hammered out, Will Hamas recommend
a few extra days may be able to week to
get them all out. So this is the most important
and critical phase. And by the way, you know, we
have to remember and listen to what the Israelis and
Americans are saying. It will be so critical because if
indeed Hamas agrees to turn over all those hostages, which
(02:15):
is basically their political capital, right, that's all the leverage
they have. If they're willing to give up all of
the hostages, then indeed we may be on the way
to the end of this war. Hamas may agree to
other things, right like giving up control of the Gaza strip,
turning over their weapons. Right, even though there's still a
(02:37):
lot of details on that end as well, but the
initial goals to get through the first technical details and
rather quickly in the next few days.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I thought it was interesting President Trump, he gave a
lot of credit to Turkish President Erdawan for pushing Hamas
to cooperate. And it does sound like between Turkey, Cutter
and a few others really has been a coordinated campaign
to pressure Hamas to agree to this and to take
(03:06):
these next steps.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Absolutely, Turkey really did. It appears play a very critical role.
Remember Hamas leaders sometimes they you know, they reside not
only in Doha, in Cutter, but they reside in Turkey, right,
They have homes there, they have family members there. So
Turkey has some you know, serious leverage over Hamas. Right
(03:32):
in other words, you know, take this deal, you know,
game over, or possibly, for example, Turkey could threaten to
dispel or kick out AMAS leaders from Turkey.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Remember Erdawan just witnessed the Israelis try to kill Hamas
leaders in Doha. It failed.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
There's lots of debate and series about how that has
impacted the unfolding events. We're seeing. But you know, we
can be certain that the Turkish president thought, you know,
with these relies, maybe they're going to go after Hamas
leaders in Istanbul right or Ankra right. So there's leverage
(04:14):
that Turkey can exert. And Turkey has a good relationship
with President you know, Ertawan has a strong relationship with
President Trump. And Erdawan's looking for other security, you know,
military assets from the United States as well. So there's
a lot of reasons why Turkey finally kind of put
(04:35):
their foot, if you will, on Hamas's neck.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
We're joined by ABC News correspondent Sjordana Miller, come into
us live from Israel. Let's talk about Israel for a second,
because they paused their offensive operations in Gaza. You had
Trump urging them to halt air strikes on Friday to
let all of this play out. And then there were
some reports that Benjamin that Yahoo Israeli Prime Minister was
(05:03):
a little down on Hamas's response, a little negative, and
apparently the President wasn't very happy with that. What have
you learned about that dynamic?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, I think initially there was you know, there were
contrasting interpretations of Hamas's response to the President's plan for Gaza.
I think the Israeli Prime minister didn't see that Hamas
agreed too much. And we have to say Hamas agreed
(05:37):
to there's twenty points. It appears that Hamas has agreed
to two or three of them, right, releasing the hostages,
you know, in exchange for the Palestinian prisoners, and you know,
turning over ceding power to another entity right in the
Gaza strip. But there's so much that actually Hamas walked
(06:00):
still to negotiate, right and make changes on and I
think that's what the Israeli Prime Minister and most of
these really initially saw. But listen, President, he may have
also seen, you know, what was missing, but he wanted
to push through Hamas's response whatever was positive and get
Hamas in a corner to back down and the war.
(06:23):
And I think, you know, Trump chose a wise path.
Even though it wasn't a full yes, right, it doesn't matter.
He'll probably get he'll get eighty percent of a yes
in the end, that's what many believe, and that's really
good enough to end this war. Again. There are details
that have to be hammered out, and even the President said,
(06:44):
you know, there may be some changes, right, but that's okay.
The question is how long will it take for all
of that to be negotiated? Right?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, And today is step one in Egypt. Jordana Miller,
ABC News correspondent coming to his live from Israel with
all the latest to Donna. Thanks so much, thank you,
Thank you all appreciate it.
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