December 10, 2025 • 25 mins
BEST OF - A new study finds social media is 'nuking' kids' brains, Rahm Emanuel wants the U.S. to adopt a social media ban for kids as Australia implements strict new laws prohibiting use under age 16. Our National Correspondent Rory O’Neill joins us with more on the social media study, White House Correspondent Jon Decker says the Fed will announce its interest rate cut decision today, and the Cinnabon incident involving a racial slur sparked fundraisers for both sides and several social media comments.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A new long term study tracked more than eighty three
hundred US kids starting at ages nine to ten, following
their screen habits and attention symptoms for four years. Researchers
found a clear link between heavier social media use and
rising in attention, but no similar link for things like
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television or video games.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This was unique to social media.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Kids in the study went from about thirty minutes of
social media a day to roughly two and a half
hours by year four, and attention problems rose alongside that jump.
Scientists say constant pings, notifications, and just the urge to
check messages and look at stuff on the phone maybe
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the real attention drain. That's what's causing a lot of
this now. Researchers also noted that social media use didn't
track with high activity, which is the other half of ADHD.
So you know, being on their phones on social media
didn't lead them to.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Be hyperactive, Yeah, but it led them to the attention
deficit issues.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Right, which I think all of us have seen. You've
talked about it time and time again with your daughter
who's on her phone a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, we can't even go out to dinner without her
needing to check her phone, and it's like she's addicted
to it exactly. I even think about myself, like I'll
sit down to watch a TV show and I cannot
put the phone down for an hour to watch an
episode of a show, I'm like, I got to look
at my phone.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, I have it, right, You just kind of reach
for it, you know, I don't even know sometimes like
if I'm doing the same thing, if I'm watching the show,
or it's more so like I can kind of get
into a show and get through it. It's like when
I'm watching sports or something, or if I'm watching a
show and there's commercials, that's that's when the commercial break
hits and I don't even think about it. I just
like go right to my phone. And there was another
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study that found Americans routinely get pulled into digital distractions.
This is right in line with what we were just
talking about, often without realizing how much time they're spending
on it. Twenty one percent say they're knocked off task
online multiple times an hour. Thirteen percent lose a full
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thirty minutes recovering from each interruption, not per day, per distraction.
So you're doing something like your phone goes off, you
get notification or you just you reach for it and
then before you know, thirty minutes goes by.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh yeah, absolutely, this happens to me when I do
some other work for our part where I have to
record stuff and I should be able to get the
job done in an hour. But if my phone's sitting
right there, I'm picking it up, I get a text,
I get a notification, and then I get pulled into
something else, and before I know what, it's taken me
two hours.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Exactly, you should only take an hour.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Nearly half the country admits to losing focus several times
a day and only about a quarter bounce back quickly.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So you know that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You go and you can knowification for something on Facebook,
and then you go on Facebook and it's not like
you jump right back into work.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
After you look at that notification.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
You see like the bank something else.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, and that's the whole thing. They want to keep
you on the app as long as possible. Scrolling notifications
at the top problem at twenty four percent, followed by
social platforms at twenty three percent and news rabbit holes
at eighteen percent. So you see that story and then
you want to find out a little more.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
And then dig it into it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, thirteen percent blame juggling apps and tabs. They're constant
switching back and forth distracts them. One in five users
keeps eleven or more tabs open at a time. I'm
not a big I can do maybe like four or five.
Like I have three open right I can't do that
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many different tabs at.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The same time.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I guess I always worry that it's going to slow
my system down.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I've eight open right now.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You have eight open right now at the same time,
right in line with a lot of people. Half of
responding to use three to five apps a day, and
a third spend almost all their work hours online. So
just kind of like our job, most of it's online,
to be honest, While at work, forty percent of desktop
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time goes to personal browsing, only twenty six percent to
actual work, and I think that's one hundred percent the case.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
There have been times.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Where I've kind of walked around the building here and
you can see people's computers and oh yeah, there, I
could see Facebook opened, yeah yeah, or or will see
people in the building who are supposed to be working
commenting or liking our social media so clearly they're not.
But going back to the kids, we've talked about I
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don't know how many different studies in recent years showing
that this is just a massive, massive problem on so
many different levels. This particular study that track these eighty
three hundred kids really seem to focus more on how
it affect their how it would affect their attention span.
But you see in different research including you know, stuff
that we get about radio, about what we do, or
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just grabbing. You gotta catch people's attention within like the
first five seconds or that's it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They're scrolling right past it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
So then think about kids that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Now you want them to sit through a school lesson
where maybe the teacher isn't you know, popping on with
that thing to suck them in right away to the
beginning of class, they're just like, okay, today we're gonna
do fractions. Yeah, the kids can't deal.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I think back to some of those teachers, and I
had some really good teachers when I was growing up,
but some of them.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Were just so boring.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Oh yeah, even for me back then, I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What it's like.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, when I went to meet my son's teachers and
we went to all the different classrooms, met all the teachers,
and after he said which one of the teachers do
you think?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Do you think I don't like?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And there was one teacher and I called it And
it wasn't because the teacher wasn't smarter or mean or anything.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It was just the monotone voice and the way she spoke.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I was like, this is the one that probably has
a hard time keeping their attention.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right and if kids have access in those classrooms to
their devices, yet.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Forget them instead listen to the teacher.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Drown On Australia is deactivating more than a million social
media accounts held by users under the age of sixteen,
launching the world's first nationwide youth band. Platforms like Instagram, TikTok, YouTube,
Facebook x, Snapchat and Reddit must take reasonable steps. They
don't really clearly define what exactly that is to block
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new under sixteen accounts and shut down existing ones. Companies
that don't comply will face major finds up to about
thirty two million dollars for repeated violations. Now, officials frame
the law as a child safety measure, pointing to research
some of what you know we were just talking about
showing Nearly all Australian kids ten to fifteen use social media,
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many have seen harmful or explicit content. Supporters say the
band is going to shield kids from addictive algorithms, online predators,
NonStop cyber bullying. A communications minister there called social media
the design of it behavioral cocaine, which I think is
really Yeah, it's good credit, arguing tech giants knowingly hooked
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young users, and early polling shows broad public support. Many
parents hoping kids are going to refocus on things like school,
real world friendships, stuff like that. But critics, including teens,
warn the band cuts off vital spaces for self expression,
community and mental health support, especially for marginalized or rural youth.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I was able to express myself just fine, and I
didn't know social media.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I think youth was doing better before social media.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It's exactly right two fifteen year olds to file the
lawsuits or this is going to play out on the courts.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Oh jeez, the kids are right.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And some teens say, you know what, we'll try VPNs
or something like that. There you go, which is how
some people here in the US again around those those
porn age verification. Yeah, some people ram Emmanuel. He's Obama's
former chief of staff. He was the mayor of Chicago.
He's probably going to run for president in twenty twenty eight.
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He wants lawmakers here in the US to do the
same thing.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I think it's time for America to pick up his
game and do the same. Look, when it comes to
our adolescents, it's either going to be adults or the algorithms.
One of them is going to raise the case. And
I think we need to help parents. It's too much
for a parent to push against Facebook, Instagram, kicktok. Our
kids are way too vulnerable. It's too addictive, too allurate
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that a parent should face off against these powerful companies
that are trying to influence their children.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It must really feel like an uphill battle for a parent.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
It does.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But I will say this, as a parent, you have
a choice whether or not you're going to give your
kid a cell phone or a tablet and access to
those things. And I think my son, he's thirteen, he
really wants a phone, is not getting one. And after
listening to all this research, search and stuff, I'm even
more confident in our decision not to let him have one.
And I also learned because My daughter had a phone
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very young, probably twelve or thirteen. She's been on social
media since she was thirteen or fourteen, and it's caused
her some issues.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
She's twenty one now.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So I don't see why so many parents are giving
their kids the phone.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Like that's where it starts. Their phones are expensive.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You can save yourself some money by not giving the
kid the phone, or you can limit their access and
just let them. Like, he has a watch, so he
can text people, but he's not on social media and
he won't be for a while.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Right. The pressure I think is, yeah, some people.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Came to it, yeah, and some people don't know what
their kids are up to. You know, whatever people's situations are.
But you can definitely prevent your kids from being on
social media by not giving them a phone.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So the question I want to ask all of you,
and the way you can weigh in really simple. Just
pull up your iHeartRadio app if you're listening in South Florida,
pull up WIOD if you're in the Tampa Bay area WFLA.
You'll see that microphone icon you hit that you can
record up to thirty seconds. I want to know if
you would be behind a law here in the US,
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and let's just put aside all the potential constitutional issues
and the core battles that would take just like what
Australia is doing right now, would you like to see
that here in the US, banning those sixteen and under
from accessing social media again, Pull up your iHeartRadio app
if you're in the Tampa Bay Area WFLA, if you're
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in South Florida, WIOD hit that microphone icon. You can
record up to thirty seconds. We'll get to some of
your responses a little bit later on. I'm just I
think it's an interesting debate. It's something that they're debating
in Congress. Maybe not that specific type of law, but
we told you Congressman Gus Bilracis from Tampa Bay Area,
he's reviving the Kids Online Safety Acts. That was a
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bill that the first surface last year. Gives the Federal
Trade Commission power to go after platforms that don't protect kids.
But you also have other issues now too. It's not
just social media that you have to deal with. You
have these AI chatbots. There was a new study to
found a third of teens are using them on a
daily basis. Senator Josh Holly he filed a bill to
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ban AI companions for anyone under eighteen, and that just
picked up seven new co sponsors from both parties. So
the guard Act, that's what it's called, what bar companies
from offering AI companions to minors and require chatbots to
clearly state that they're not human.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Kind of the opposite.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Of what we do here at iHeart Radio, where we're
guaranteed human.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Talking with GPT sometimes it feels like you're talking to
a person the way it responds to you.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, and if you've got someone who's younger and oh yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Same way social media gets in their head.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Right now, let's bring in our national correspondent, Roy O'Neil,
who supports brought to you by Mark Spain real Estate.
So Rory, we're talking about this about an hour ago.
This new study, yet another one. It took a look
at how social media is impacting kids' brains and the results.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Not great, No they're not.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
But what's interesting I thought was that it found that
not all screen time is the same. That if a
kid is on an iPad or something watching the screen,
maybe watching TV, maybe playing a video game, that doesn't
have the same impact or likelihood contribution to add that
we get specifically from social media and that dark algorithm,
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So they did notice a difference here.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
This was a four year study. It was interesting.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I thought too that when they were starting the study,
the kids were using the phones about thirty minutes a day.
After the four years was up to about two and
a half hours a day on social media.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, this study actually makes me feel better about my
parenting choices because my son doesn't have social media, but
he does play a lot of video games, and so
he sits in his room after school. He's playing a
lot of video games, but he plays with friends, so
I feel like there's some social interaction, like they're connected
through the video games. But now to know that it's
not as bad as yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Scroll in like Instagram, but even that, what's so different.
I really didn't play video games much when I was
a kid, but if I did, it involved like a
larger day of activity with friends in the neighborhood. So
like we would do some stuff outside, then we would
go in the house together and play some video games
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and you know, so it wasn't just sitting in the
room with like a headset on.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And yeah, there are definitely days where I feel bad
but I'm working when I'm at home, you know, I'm
trying to work. But he does have friends over and
they play outside. When he's got friends over, a lot
of times, I'm like, you, guys go outside and he
plays baseball, and he did track and all that. So
he gives enough activity, but he probably does spend a
little too much time playing video games.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And what this rory, what this study really found was,
you know, it's the notifications and all of that, and
then it leads to this addiction to keep checking the phone.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Right, It's this inattention issue, the fact that there's always
something pinging, popping, a pop up at the bottom of
the screen, a notification from the other side. So it's
this constant bombardment of different data that's coming off the
screen that really is having that impact when it comes
to add And as I said, they found there wasn't
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a link with hyperactivity, but more specifically an increase in
attention deficit issues.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, not a link with hyperactivity, but I think all
of that definitely links to depression and those kinds.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Of anxiety, all that stuff, and then just kids not
being able to sit still in school, they can't pay attention,
and then they get medicated for it, right, right.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And that's the point that data made earlier.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, you have kids, they lose their attention span
because of this, and their attention spans are already pretty
short as it is. And then how the hell are
you going to sit through a class with a boring teacher,
Like a forty.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Minute class with the teacher that doesn't you know, that
just isn't very lively and they don't start the class
out with like a hook.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
To get them in. Yeah, it's like they need to
have like an opening statement that.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And then you wonder why there's such an industry of
outrage and things like that in this country. Well, because
people's attention spans are so short, you've got to capture
them and get them to hold, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So the politicians that we talk about, they're the ones
that are the loudest and the most ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, like Rory, what you're doing right now?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
It's it's just gonna say, yeah, the I I'm sorry,
I'm sorry?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
What Facebook?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Yeah, the history teacher needs a better algorithm is what
brets them down to in order to keep the kids
hooked as to what happened in seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Oh no, but it's it's interesting because.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
There are those I don't know, sort of broader issues,
but then there's the intense local issue. The fact that
when you are on social media with kids at your
school and someone's calling some kids fast ugly, they have
zits and they want to date that girl and whatever, like,
that's a whole different well.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Online.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And it used to be kids could get bullied while
they were in school or there was all that drama
in school, but then once you go home, you're cut
off from it because you're not communicating constantly. Now it's
like a NonStop stream of it all afternoon, all night,
all weekend. And then my son's school, somebody started an
Instagram account with the name of the school and fights,
and it was videos of kids fighting after school. And
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I don't think that they were actually really like brawling
at each other. I think it was more like wrestling
and more for fun. But it was very disturbing to watch,
and it was a fight to get parents to get
Instagram to shut.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It down, and that could entice more fights. And we
just did this story, Rory. I don't know if you've
seen it, but horrific out of the Panhandle, the Pensacola area,
where you have this fourteen year old girl, she gets
lured into the lured into the woods and she's shot
by a sixteen year old and a fourteen year old.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
They shoot her, they burn her body.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And where did the whole beef seem to begin on
social media?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, because she locked one of them.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So, just going right to what you were saying, some
of those kinds of issues tied to all of this
as well. And that's why Australia has decided, you know what,
if you're sixteen or under, you don't get to access
social media anymore.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
And I guess they're going to be using facial recognition
technology on devices will be required for kids under sixteen. There,
that's that's one of the ways they're trying to I
don't want to hear.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
This nonsense from Yeah, I don't want to hear this
nonsense from Facebook and TikTok and these companies that they
can't figure out a way to verify ages give me
a freaking break, of.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Course, ridiculous, because you know what, if we post something
with a little clip of a saw in it, their
copyright AI will detect that in two seconds to shut
you down.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, Dana put only fans in the title of a
video on YouTube the other day. We got like three
views because of that, because they thought it was porned. Yeah,
so don't tell me that they can't disappoint.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Totally disappointed in that one, by the way, but that was.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, it's just us talking. You're right, that probably was
a letdown for some people.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Now National Correspondent Rory O'Neil with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Rory really appreciate it. Thanks so much. Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Let's go back to the highline and bring in our
White House correspondent John Dekker. Now, so, John, I want
to start with President Trump's trip to Pennsylvania. Anything notable
come from that speech on affordability, and of course, as
he always does, he mixed in a few other issues as.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Well well, a lot of other issues. I watched that
entire event last night, nearly two hours. I would say
ten minutes of that two hour time period, the President
actually touched on issues related to affordability and inflation. The
President essentially blaming the prior administration, President Joe Biden, for
the inflation numbers that we're seeing right now. The high
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prices that we're seeing in so many spectors, and the
President also promising that he believes that the economy is
going to come roaring back in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
So that was the.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Message that the President delivered last night in northeastern Pennsylvania
in the Poconos, and that's a message that he will
likely continue to liver as he takes to the road
in the early part of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, and I think time is running out for the
President to be able to continue to say this is
this is all Biden's fault.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Once I think you get past that first year in office,
that's when that message starts to fall a little flat
with voters, where it's like, all right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
When's things that have turned around? Because that's why people
elected him.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, when are your policies going to create a situation
where we, you know, feel better about where things are
at in our lives.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Well, that's right, you know, And we're about to enter
a new year, twenty twenty six, and certainly at that point,
the president owns the economy. So it's that message of
just blaming the prior administration becomes more difficult the further
we get from President Joe Biden's time in the White House,
and then I can think the White House needs to
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figure out what their messaging is if indeed prices continue
to go up for many products all across the economy.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I also saw he kind of went back to that
whole you know, we don't need thirty pencils or thirty dolls.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Oh yeah, he said, if you could get two dolls
instead of thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I don't know who in his team thinks that's a
smart messaging pact, Yeah, or if it's him who thinks
happened that one's gonna going to hit.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
Yeah, I don't think that landed. You know, that line landed,
and yet the president, you know, when he feels he
likes the line.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
He repeats it. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
So that particular line which we heard last night in Pennsylvania,
as you point out, Ryan, it's been said before and
it will be said again at least, you know, as
we get closer and closer to Christmas.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
About two weeks away.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
So look, this is the start of the process.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Ye.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
And it's all centered on one goal, Ryan, and that's
for Republicans maintaining control of both the House and the Senate.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's also that particular approach is also it feels.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Like the opposite of Trump's all about like extras.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
My gosh, I was just instead of having thirty you know,
gold statues in the Oval Office, you can have too.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, right right, animalist, no no, no, no, and
real quick, John, The Federal Reserve set to cut interest
rates again today.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
How does that all play into this?
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Well, it's something the President has called upon the FED
to do since he took office.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
If indeed, as.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Expected, they cut interest rates by a quarter of a point,
that announcement will come at two o'clock this afternoon. That
will be the third consecutive meeting in which they've cut
interest rates. That's a good thing as far as you know,
giving a boost to the US economy. But it's also
important to see what the outlook that the Fed gives
for twenty twenty six if they believe that more f
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cut FED cut interest rates are on the way.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
All right, Our White House correspondent John Decker with us
this morning. John, thanks so much, thank you. Can you
imagine him coming out and saying, you don't need forty
maga hats, you need one?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I know, right exactly He's always right right.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
We did this story yesterday, but before I get to
the update, let me do a quick recap. Cinem an
employee in Wisconsin fired after being caught on video calling
a Somali couple the IN word.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Here's some of that exchange. Are you recording I'm gonna
record you.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yes, I am racist.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
You ought to be.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I'm not racist, and I'll say that to the whole
entire world.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Don't beat this to your ruined your life by the way,
Oh you're talking about you?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You're talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Tuck?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
What what's talk with you?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Absolutely and escalated.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You can see the video on x follow us there
at Ryan Gorman Show. The employee was identified as forty
three year old Crystal wilseie She's got a criminal history
spinning back like twenty five years. The dispute reportedly started
when the customer asked for more caramel on a cinnamon
roll that led to Wilsey attacking the customers h job
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before eventually using the N word. Cinebun released the statement
saying the behavior was unacceptable and confirmed. Wilsey was immediately
terminated by the franchise owner. One quick note, you know
it used to be you get into these kinds of
altercations things, maybe ask a little bit and then you
just like go about you move on. Now I've seen
this more and more. You've got the people who feel
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like they're being attacked, they bust out the phone, they
keep the confrontation going, and they kept go on videos. Yeah,
after the incident went viral, a gibsen Go fundraiser supporting
Wilsey popped up, and supporters on that page claim the
customers provoked her. That fundraiser has raised overall one hundred
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and eighteen thousand dollars for her.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
In response, a fundraiser for the Somali couple was created.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That one has only raised a few thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But we got a lot of social media reaction to
this story yesterday because we posted the video of us
talking about it, and what were some people saying.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Well, so a number of people seem to think that
there's another video that shows what led up to that confrontation,
and they're blaming the Somali couple. Somebody said that they
told the woman that she should be wearing a hit
job and all this. But you said, you searched and
there's no other video.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
No other video, there's no other video. I don't know
where that originated from.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That idea.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
It was her who the employee who went after the
Somali woman for wearing the h job, not the other
way around. And there is no longer like extended cut
that adds more context. I looked everywhere for it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't know where that's coming from.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
And if anyone listening has seen it and wants to
argue it with us, send it along.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
We'd love to.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
See us send the link to the video.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Because what people were doing was they were just going
on social media saying there's a video and it shows
all different things.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I think that's exactly what happens. And that's why I
never trust for people are and on social media. Because
one person wrote that where's the rest of the video,
and now everyone's repeating that, and then it's kind of crazy.
There were a bunch of people that said they support her, Yeah,
like that they support She's nuts, I know, because they
think that the Somali couple started it. And then people
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were talking about freedom of speech and that she couldn't
have been fired. Yeah, but yeah, I mean basically, the
main point people made in the comments is that they
believe there's some other video that shows a different perspective
and that that woman, the Cinnabon employee, that she was
actually the victim.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, there's not that I can find, but she's certainly
making out no question about that one hundred eighteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Years and years of work against Cinebon to make that money.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
The Ryan Gorman Show on news radio WFLA.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Follow us on Facebook and Instagram at Ryan Gorman Show,
and find us online at Ryan Gormanshow dot com.
A new long term study tracked more than eighty three
hundred US kids starting at ages nine to ten, following
their screen habits and attention symptoms for four years. Researchers
found a clear link between heavier social media use and
rising in attention, but no similar link for things like
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television or video games.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This was unique to social media.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Kids in the study went from about thirty minutes of
social media a day to roughly two and a half
hours by year four, and attention problems rose alongside that jump.
Scientists say constant pings, notifications, and just the urge to
check messages and look at stuff on the phone maybe
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the real attention drain. That's what's causing a lot of
this now. Researchers also noted that social media use didn't
track with high activity, which is the other half of ADHD.
So you know, being on their phones on social media
didn't lead them to.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Be hyperactive, Yeah, but it led them to the attention
deficit issues.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Right, which I think all of us have seen. You've
talked about it time and time again with your daughter
who's on her phone a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, we can't even go out to dinner without her
needing to check her phone, and it's like she's addicted
to it exactly. I even think about myself, like I'll
sit down to watch a TV show and I cannot
put the phone down for an hour to watch an
episode of a show, I'm like, I got to look
at my phone.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, I have it, right, You just kind of reach
for it, you know, I don't even know sometimes like
if I'm doing the same thing, if I'm watching the show,
or it's more so like I can kind of get
into a show and get through it. It's like when
I'm watching sports or something, or if I'm watching a
show and there's commercials, that's that's when the commercial break
hits and I don't even think about it. I just
like go right to my phone. And there was another
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study that found Americans routinely get pulled into digital distractions.
This is right in line with what we were just
talking about, often without realizing how much time they're spending
on it. Twenty one percent say they're knocked off task
online multiple times an hour. Thirteen percent lose a full
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thirty minutes recovering from each interruption, not per day, per distraction.
So you're doing something like your phone goes off, you
get notification or you just you reach for it and
then before you know, thirty minutes goes by.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh yeah, absolutely, this happens to me when I do
some other work for our part where I have to
record stuff and I should be able to get the
job done in an hour. But if my phone's sitting
right there, I'm picking it up, I get a text,
I get a notification, and then I get pulled into
something else, and before I know what, it's taken me
two hours.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Exactly, you should only take an hour.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Nearly half the country admits to losing focus several times
a day and only about a quarter bounce back quickly.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So you know that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You go and you can knowification for something on Facebook,
and then you go on Facebook and it's not like
you jump right back into work.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
After you look at that notification.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
You see like the bank something else.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, and that's the whole thing. They want to keep
you on the app as long as possible. Scrolling notifications
at the top problem at twenty four percent, followed by
social platforms at twenty three percent and news rabbit holes
at eighteen percent. So you see that story and then
you want to find out a little more.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
And then dig it into it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, thirteen percent blame juggling apps and tabs. They're constant
switching back and forth distracts them. One in five users
keeps eleven or more tabs open at a time. I'm
not a big I can do maybe like four or five.
Like I have three open right I can't do that
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many different tabs at.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The same time.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I guess I always worry that it's going to slow
my system down.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I've eight open right now.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You have eight open right now at the same time,
right in line with a lot of people. Half of
responding to use three to five apps a day, and
a third spend almost all their work hours online. So
just kind of like our job, most of it's online,
to be honest, While at work, forty percent of desktop
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time goes to personal browsing, only twenty six percent to
actual work, and I think that's one hundred percent the case.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
There have been times.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Where I've kind of walked around the building here and
you can see people's computers and oh yeah, there, I
could see Facebook opened, yeah yeah, or or will see
people in the building who are supposed to be working
commenting or liking our social media so clearly they're not.
But going back to the kids, we've talked about I
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don't know how many different studies in recent years showing
that this is just a massive, massive problem on so
many different levels. This particular study that track these eighty
three hundred kids really seem to focus more on how
it affect their how it would affect their attention span.
But you see in different research including you know, stuff
that we get about radio, about what we do, or
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just grabbing. You gotta catch people's attention within like the
first five seconds or that's it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They're scrolling right past it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
So then think about kids that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Now you want them to sit through a school lesson
where maybe the teacher isn't you know, popping on with
that thing to suck them in right away to the
beginning of class, they're just like, okay, today we're gonna
do fractions. Yeah, the kids can't deal.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I think back to some of those teachers, and I
had some really good teachers when I was growing up,
but some of them.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Were just so boring.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Oh yeah, even for me back then, I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What it's like.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, when I went to meet my son's teachers and
we went to all the different classrooms, met all the teachers,
and after he said which one of the teachers do
you think?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Do you think I don't like?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And there was one teacher and I called it And
it wasn't because the teacher wasn't smarter or mean or anything.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It was just the monotone voice and the way she spoke.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I was like, this is the one that probably has
a hard time keeping their attention.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right and if kids have access in those classrooms to
their devices, yet.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Forget them instead listen to the teacher.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Drown On Australia is deactivating more than a million social
media accounts held by users under the age of sixteen,
launching the world's first nationwide youth band. Platforms like Instagram, TikTok, YouTube,
Facebook x, Snapchat and Reddit must take reasonable steps. They
don't really clearly define what exactly that is to block
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new under sixteen accounts and shut down existing ones. Companies
that don't comply will face major finds up to about
thirty two million dollars for repeated violations. Now, officials frame
the law as a child safety measure, pointing to research
some of what you know we were just talking about
showing Nearly all Australian kids ten to fifteen use social media,
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many have seen harmful or explicit content. Supporters say the
band is going to shield kids from addictive algorithms, online predators,
NonStop cyber bullying. A communications minister there called social media
the design of it behavioral cocaine, which I think is
really Yeah, it's good credit, arguing tech giants knowingly hooked
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young users, and early polling shows broad public support. Many
parents hoping kids are going to refocus on things like school,
real world friendships, stuff like that. But critics, including teens,
warn the band cuts off vital spaces for self expression,
community and mental health support, especially for marginalized or rural youth.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I was able to express myself just fine, and I
didn't know social media.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I think youth was doing better before social media.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It's exactly right two fifteen year olds to file the
lawsuits or this is going to play out on the courts.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Oh jeez, the kids are right.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And some teens say, you know what, we'll try VPNs
or something like that. There you go, which is how
some people here in the US again around those those
porn age verification. Yeah, some people ram Emmanuel. He's Obama's
former chief of staff. He was the mayor of Chicago.
He's probably going to run for president in twenty twenty eight.
(08:14):
He wants lawmakers here in the US to do the
same thing.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I think it's time for America to pick up his
game and do the same. Look, when it comes to
our adolescents, it's either going to be adults or the algorithms.
One of them is going to raise the case. And
I think we need to help parents. It's too much
for a parent to push against Facebook, Instagram, kicktok. Our
kids are way too vulnerable. It's too addictive, too allurate
(08:39):
that a parent should face off against these powerful companies
that are trying to influence their children.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It must really feel like an uphill battle for a parent.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
It does.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But I will say this, as a parent, you have
a choice whether or not you're going to give your
kid a cell phone or a tablet and access to
those things. And I think my son, he's thirteen, he
really wants a phone, is not getting one. And after
listening to all this research, search and stuff, I'm even
more confident in our decision not to let him have one.
And I also learned because My daughter had a phone
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very young, probably twelve or thirteen. She's been on social
media since she was thirteen or fourteen, and it's caused
her some issues.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
She's twenty one now.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So I don't see why so many parents are giving
their kids the phone.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Like that's where it starts. Their phones are expensive.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You can save yourself some money by not giving the
kid the phone, or you can limit their access and
just let them. Like, he has a watch, so he
can text people, but he's not on social media and
he won't be for a while.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Right. The pressure I think is, yeah, some people.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Came to it, yeah, and some people don't know what
their kids are up to. You know, whatever people's situations are.
But you can definitely prevent your kids from being on
social media by not giving them a phone.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So the question I want to ask all of you,
and the way you can weigh in really simple. Just
pull up your iHeartRadio app if you're listening in South Florida,
pull up WIOD if you're in the Tampa Bay area WFLA.
You'll see that microphone icon you hit that you can
record up to thirty seconds. I want to know if
you would be behind a law here in the US,
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and let's just put aside all the potential constitutional issues
and the core battles that would take just like what
Australia is doing right now, would you like to see
that here in the US, banning those sixteen and under
from accessing social media again, Pull up your iHeartRadio app
if you're in the Tampa Bay Area WFLA, if you're
(10:29):
in South Florida, WIOD hit that microphone icon. You can
record up to thirty seconds. We'll get to some of
your responses a little bit later on. I'm just I
think it's an interesting debate. It's something that they're debating
in Congress. Maybe not that specific type of law, but
we told you Congressman Gus Bilracis from Tampa Bay Area,
he's reviving the Kids Online Safety Acts. That was a
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bill that the first surface last year. Gives the Federal
Trade Commission power to go after platforms that don't protect kids.
But you also have other issues now too. It's not
just social media that you have to deal with. You
have these AI chatbots. There was a new study to
found a third of teens are using them on a
daily basis. Senator Josh Holly he filed a bill to
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ban AI companions for anyone under eighteen, and that just
picked up seven new co sponsors from both parties. So
the guard Act, that's what it's called, what bar companies
from offering AI companions to minors and require chatbots to
clearly state that they're not human.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Kind of the opposite.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Of what we do here at iHeart Radio, where we're
guaranteed human.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Talking with GPT sometimes it feels like you're talking to
a person the way it responds to you.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, and if you've got someone who's younger and oh yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Same way social media gets in their head.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Right now, let's bring in our national correspondent, Roy O'Neil,
who supports brought to you by Mark Spain real Estate.
So Rory, we're talking about this about an hour ago.
This new study, yet another one. It took a look
at how social media is impacting kids' brains and the results.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Not great, No they're not.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
But what's interesting I thought was that it found that
not all screen time is the same. That if a
kid is on an iPad or something watching the screen,
maybe watching TV, maybe playing a video game, that doesn't
have the same impact or likelihood contribution to add that
we get specifically from social media and that dark algorithm,
(12:32):
So they did notice a difference here.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
This was a four year study. It was interesting.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I thought too that when they were starting the study,
the kids were using the phones about thirty minutes a day.
After the four years was up to about two and
a half hours a day on social media.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, this study actually makes me feel better about my
parenting choices because my son doesn't have social media, but
he does play a lot of video games, and so
he sits in his room after school. He's playing a
lot of video games, but he plays with friends, so
I feel like there's some social interaction, like they're connected
through the video games. But now to know that it's
not as bad as yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Scroll in like Instagram, but even that, what's so different.
I really didn't play video games much when I was
a kid, but if I did, it involved like a
larger day of activity with friends in the neighborhood. So
like we would do some stuff outside, then we would
go in the house together and play some video games
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and you know, so it wasn't just sitting in the
room with like a headset on.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And yeah, there are definitely days where I feel bad
but I'm working when I'm at home, you know, I'm
trying to work. But he does have friends over and
they play outside. When he's got friends over, a lot
of times, I'm like, you, guys go outside and he
plays baseball, and he did track and all that. So
he gives enough activity, but he probably does spend a
little too much time playing video games.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And what this rory, what this study really found was,
you know, it's the notifications and all of that, and
then it leads to this addiction to keep checking the phone.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Right, It's this inattention issue, the fact that there's always
something pinging, popping, a pop up at the bottom of
the screen, a notification from the other side. So it's
this constant bombardment of different data that's coming off the
screen that really is having that impact when it comes
to add And as I said, they found there wasn't
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a link with hyperactivity, but more specifically an increase in
attention deficit issues.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, not a link with hyperactivity, but I think all
of that definitely links to depression and those kinds.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Of anxiety, all that stuff, and then just kids not
being able to sit still in school, they can't pay attention,
and then they get medicated for it, right, right.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And that's the point that data made earlier.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, you have kids, they lose their attention span
because of this, and their attention spans are already pretty
short as it is. And then how the hell are
you going to sit through a class with a boring teacher,
Like a forty.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Minute class with the teacher that doesn't you know, that
just isn't very lively and they don't start the class
out with like a hook.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
To get them in. Yeah, it's like they need to
have like an opening statement that.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And then you wonder why there's such an industry of
outrage and things like that in this country. Well, because
people's attention spans are so short, you've got to capture
them and get them to hold, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So the politicians that we talk about, they're the ones
that are the loudest and the most ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, like Rory, what you're doing right now?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
It's it's just gonna say, yeah, the I I'm sorry,
I'm sorry?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
What Facebook?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Yeah, the history teacher needs a better algorithm is what
brets them down to in order to keep the kids
hooked as to what happened in seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Oh no, but it's it's interesting because.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
There are those I don't know, sort of broader issues,
but then there's the intense local issue. The fact that
when you are on social media with kids at your
school and someone's calling some kids fast ugly, they have
zits and they want to date that girl and whatever, like,
that's a whole different well.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Online.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And it used to be kids could get bullied while
they were in school or there was all that drama
in school, but then once you go home, you're cut
off from it because you're not communicating constantly. Now it's
like a NonStop stream of it all afternoon, all night,
all weekend. And then my son's school, somebody started an
Instagram account with the name of the school and fights,
and it was videos of kids fighting after school. And
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I don't think that they were actually really like brawling
at each other. I think it was more like wrestling
and more for fun. But it was very disturbing to watch,
and it was a fight to get parents to get
Instagram to shut.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It down, and that could entice more fights. And we
just did this story, Rory. I don't know if you've
seen it, but horrific out of the Panhandle, the Pensacola area,
where you have this fourteen year old girl, she gets
lured into the lured into the woods and she's shot
by a sixteen year old and a fourteen year old.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
They shoot her, they burn her body.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And where did the whole beef seem to begin on
social media?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, because she locked one of them.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So, just going right to what you were saying, some
of those kinds of issues tied to all of this
as well. And that's why Australia has decided, you know what,
if you're sixteen or under, you don't get to access
social media anymore.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
And I guess they're going to be using facial recognition
technology on devices will be required for kids under sixteen. There,
that's that's one of the ways they're trying to I
don't want to hear.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
This nonsense from Yeah, I don't want to hear this
nonsense from Facebook and TikTok and these companies that they
can't figure out a way to verify ages give me
a freaking break, of.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Course, ridiculous, because you know what, if we post something
with a little clip of a saw in it, their
copyright AI will detect that in two seconds to shut
you down.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, Dana put only fans in the title of a
video on YouTube the other day. We got like three
views because of that, because they thought it was porned. Yeah,
so don't tell me that they can't disappoint.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Totally disappointed in that one, by the way, but that was.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, it's just us talking. You're right, that probably was
a letdown for some people.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Now National Correspondent Rory O'Neil with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Rory really appreciate it. Thanks so much. Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Let's go back to the highline and bring in our
White House correspondent John Dekker. Now, so, John, I want
to start with President Trump's trip to Pennsylvania. Anything notable
come from that speech on affordability, and of course, as
he always does, he mixed in a few other issues as.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Well well, a lot of other issues. I watched that
entire event last night, nearly two hours. I would say
ten minutes of that two hour time period, the President
actually touched on issues related to affordability and inflation. The
President essentially blaming the prior administration, President Joe Biden, for
the inflation numbers that we're seeing right now. The high
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prices that we're seeing in so many spectors, and the
President also promising that he believes that the economy is
going to come roaring back in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
So that was the.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Message that the President delivered last night in northeastern Pennsylvania
in the Poconos, and that's a message that he will
likely continue to liver as he takes to the road
in the early part of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, and I think time is running out for the
President to be able to continue to say this is
this is all Biden's fault.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Once I think you get past that first year in office,
that's when that message starts to fall a little flat
with voters, where it's like, all right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
When's things that have turned around? Because that's why people
elected him.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, when are your policies going to create a situation
where we, you know, feel better about where things are
at in our lives.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Well, that's right, you know, And we're about to enter
a new year, twenty twenty six, and certainly at that point,
the president owns the economy. So it's that message of
just blaming the prior administration becomes more difficult the further
we get from President Joe Biden's time in the White House,
and then I can think the White House needs to
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figure out what their messaging is if indeed prices continue
to go up for many products all across the economy.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I also saw he kind of went back to that
whole you know, we don't need thirty pencils or thirty dolls.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Oh yeah, he said, if you could get two dolls
instead of thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I don't know who in his team thinks that's a
smart messaging pact, Yeah, or if it's him who thinks
happened that one's gonna going to hit.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
Yeah, I don't think that landed. You know, that line landed,
and yet the president, you know, when he feels he
likes the line.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
He repeats it. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
So that particular line which we heard last night in Pennsylvania,
as you point out, Ryan, it's been said before and
it will be said again at least, you know, as
we get closer and closer to Christmas.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
About two weeks away.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
So look, this is the start of the process.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Ye.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
And it's all centered on one goal, Ryan, and that's
for Republicans maintaining control of both the House and the Senate.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's also that particular approach is also it feels.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Like the opposite of Trump's all about like extras.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
My gosh, I was just instead of having thirty you know,
gold statues in the Oval Office, you can have too.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, right right, animalist, no no, no, no, and
real quick, John, The Federal Reserve set to cut interest
rates again today.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
How does that all play into this?
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Well, it's something the President has called upon the FED
to do since he took office.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
If indeed, as.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Expected, they cut interest rates by a quarter of a point,
that announcement will come at two o'clock this afternoon. That
will be the third consecutive meeting in which they've cut
interest rates. That's a good thing as far as you know,
giving a boost to the US economy. But it's also
important to see what the outlook that the Fed gives
for twenty twenty six if they believe that more f
(21:48):
cut FED cut interest rates are on the way.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
All right, Our White House correspondent John Decker with us
this morning. John, thanks so much, thank you. Can you
imagine him coming out and saying, you don't need forty
maga hats, you need one?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I know, right exactly He's always right right.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
We did this story yesterday, but before I get to
the update, let me do a quick recap. Cinem an
employee in Wisconsin fired after being caught on video calling
a Somali couple the IN word.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Here's some of that exchange. Are you recording I'm gonna
record you.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yes, I am racist.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
You ought to be.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I'm not racist, and I'll say that to the whole
entire world.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Don't beat this to your ruined your life by the way,
Oh you're talking about you?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You're talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Tuck?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
What what's talk with you?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Absolutely and escalated.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You can see the video on x follow us there
at Ryan Gorman Show. The employee was identified as forty
three year old Crystal wilseie She's got a criminal history
spinning back like twenty five years. The dispute reportedly started
when the customer asked for more caramel on a cinnamon
roll that led to Wilsey attacking the customers h job
(23:04):
before eventually using the N word. Cinebun released the statement
saying the behavior was unacceptable and confirmed. Wilsey was immediately
terminated by the franchise owner. One quick note, you know
it used to be you get into these kinds of
altercations things, maybe ask a little bit and then you
just like go about you move on. Now I've seen
this more and more. You've got the people who feel
(23:26):
like they're being attacked, they bust out the phone, they
keep the confrontation going, and they kept go on videos. Yeah,
after the incident went viral, a gibsen Go fundraiser supporting
Wilsey popped up, and supporters on that page claim the
customers provoked her. That fundraiser has raised overall one hundred
(23:46):
and eighteen thousand dollars for her.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
In response, a fundraiser for the Somali couple was created.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That one has only raised a few thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But we got a lot of social media reaction to
this story yesterday because we posted the video of us
talking about it, and what were some people saying.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Well, so a number of people seem to think that
there's another video that shows what led up to that confrontation,
and they're blaming the Somali couple. Somebody said that they
told the woman that she should be wearing a hit
job and all this. But you said, you searched and
there's no other video.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
No other video, there's no other video. I don't know
where that originated from.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That idea.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
It was her who the employee who went after the
Somali woman for wearing the h job, not the other
way around. And there is no longer like extended cut
that adds more context. I looked everywhere for it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't know where that's coming from.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
And if anyone listening has seen it and wants to
argue it with us, send it along.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
We'd love to.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
See us send the link to the video.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Because what people were doing was they were just going
on social media saying there's a video and it shows
all different things.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I think that's exactly what happens. And that's why I
never trust for people are and on social media. Because
one person wrote that where's the rest of the video,
and now everyone's repeating that, and then it's kind of crazy.
There were a bunch of people that said they support her, Yeah,
like that they support She's nuts, I know, because they
think that the Somali couple started it. And then people
(25:17):
were talking about freedom of speech and that she couldn't
have been fired. Yeah, but yeah, I mean basically, the
main point people made in the comments is that they
believe there's some other video that shows a different perspective
and that that woman, the Cinnabon employee, that she was
actually the victim.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, there's not that I can find, but she's certainly
making out no question about that one hundred eighteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Years and years of work against Cinebon to make that money.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
The Ryan Gorman Show on news radio WFLA.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
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