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November 20, 2025 25 mins
TOP STORIES - Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick has been indicted for allegedly funneling FEMA funds to her campaign, and the House Ethics Committee has launched an investigation into Rep. Cory Mills. Officials confirm a fifth death at a Disney World resort in less than a month. Floridians are demanding HOA reform at the state Capitol, and the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office reports multiple arrests, including a sex offender accused of sending harmful material to out-of-state children and a Strawberry Crest student found with a firearm and knife. Hillsborough County is also rolling out a new alert system in jails, and Tampa has topped the list of cities with the worst holiday traffic.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay, Jason Barringer, Brionna Torrez,
and Natalie Ronriguez from our newsroom. Coming up this hour,
we'll get to today's forecast for you with Weather Channel
mediorologists Ray Stagic before eight point fifteen. Right after that,
I'm go spending that two thousand dollars President Trump wants
to give out to Americans as a tariff rebate. Just yet,
We're going to tell you why plus members of Congress

(00:21):
and the President continue to float ideas for reforming healthcare.
What are some of the changes they're looking to make
and how could it impact you. We'll check in with
healthcare reporter from the Hill, Nathaniel Wexel at eight thirty five.
Right now, let's get to today's top stories with Natalie Rodriguez.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good morning, Natalie, Good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Sheila Scherflus McCormick is planning to fight which she is
calling an unjust baseless sham indictment the South Florida Congress.
I'm going to respond it after being indicted yesterday for
allegedly stealing FEMA funds and then using them for her campaign,
and she says that the timing is pretty curious clearly
meant to destry from far more pressing national issues. But

(01:03):
former Broward Mayor Dale Holness, who was once her competitor,
says he is not surprised by these charges.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
She made eighty six thousand dollars a year before. The
company that she got the money from was in debt
to the irs to the tune.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Of hundreds of thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
We just couldn't figure out how you go from that
to put in four million in a campaign.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
So Sheila Cherphyllis McCormick adds she's looking forward to her
day in court. She's confident that the truth will prevail.
Sarah so had a Republican Greg Stuby announced that he's
filing a privileged motion today to censure the Democrat and
remove her from all committees. In fact, removing her from
Congress altogether is what his goal is as of right now.

(01:45):
We also heard from House Speaker Mike Johnson, whose reaction
to the news.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
We need ethical people to serve in Congress. Ethical.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, these charges are dating back four years. Chereflest McCormick
and her brother allegedly got a five million dollar overpayment
in FEMA funds for their family health care company, and
she's looking at fifty years or more in prison if
she's convicted.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
All right, I have it on good authority, and you
know me, I have sources everywhere that schereflest. McCormick is
going to use the Costanza defense to push back against
these allegations. And if you're not familiar with the Costanza defense,
this is the gist of it.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I tell you I got a plead ignorance on this thing,
because if anyone had said anything to me at all
when I first started here that that sort of thing
was frowned upon. I mean, if anyone had said stealing
five million dollars in FEMA overpayments tied to your family's
health care company was wrong, and then using that money
for your congressional campaign. While she wouldn't have done it,
she had no idea. So again watch for that, I

(03:00):
have it on good authority. That's going to be the defense.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well maybe that's the defense that Congress and Corey Mills
is going.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
To take to where's the ethical clip again?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
From exactly so, the Central Florida politician is under investigation.
The House Ethics Committee just started this case. A sub
committee is going to look at six allegations that he's
facing six six. One of them is campaign finance laws,
violation of improperly soliciting and or receiving gifts, received special favors,

(03:35):
engaged in sexual misconduct, and misused congressional resources.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Those all feel like things that you typically see from Yeah,
the stolen valor allegation against him, that's the one that
stands out is different from the others. But yeah, he's got,
you know, a protective order issued against him after our
former girlfriend said that he threatened to release explicit photos

(04:02):
and videos of her. It's just been one thing after
another with Corey Mills. And if you're the Republican Party,
you got to find somebody the primary this guy next
year and try to get somebody better in that position.
It's not going to be a race even with all
this stuff. I don't necessarily think it's going to be
a race that a Democrat could Maybe in a big
wave election, it's possible. That's a tough seat for them

(04:24):
to win, but it's just it's one embarrassing story after another.
So and look, sexual misconduct and proper gifts, campaign finance issues,
they sound like things you would generally see from a
member of Congress, but it's even gone beyond that with
Corey Mills.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
It really has very mysterious deaths at Disney resorts. The
death toll now is at five in a one month period.
It a lot, It's a lot. The Orange County Medical
Examiner's Office is saying that the most recent was on
November eighth, there was a death at Disney Saratoga Springs Resort.

(05:06):
There have been four others before that. A thirty one
year old woman died by suicide. She jumped to her
death at the Disney Contemporary Resort on October fourteenth. A
week later, October twenty first, at Fort Wilderness, there was
a man in his sixties who was transported to the
hospital where he died. That one was natural causes, no

(05:26):
signs of foul play. Then late October a story that
we actually covered, a twenty eight year old identified as
Matthew Cohne died by suicide.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
He jumped to his death from the.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Bay Lake Tower, part of that modern extension of the
Contemporary resort. Then November second, the Orange County Sheriff's Office
says that a woman in her forties died at Disney's
Pop Century Resort, which is that value tier hotel around
twentieth century pop culture. But that one was related to
a medical emergency. That one was not foul play nor suicide.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Still, yeah, has anybody checked on Mickey goofy Pluto?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Are they okay? I mean, what is gone on? Then?

Speaker 5 (06:06):
It is really crazy to have five in a matter
of a month.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, and look they're different. I mean that the two
suicides are really unfortunate. And I also think there's a question.
You know, you had the one, it made a lot
of news, and then it was just weird that you
had another one in the same manner at the same hotel. Yeah,
shortly thereafter. You wonder if it's like.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
One kind of inspired yeah the other.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah yeah, but then these other ones and we don't
we have no idea what happened at Disney Saratoga Springs
Resort and SPA. I will say that that when my dad,
my sister, when they go to Disney, that's where they
stay all the time, I'm going to tell them maybe
pick a different, different spot, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Or maybe don't go for a while until this kind
of fizzles out.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, maybe revisit Disney in twenty twenty six. But it's
just it's just strange. And then you've got the Epic
Universe death on that ride, You've got the death out
in Disneyland on the Haunted Mansion ride.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Just it's creepy.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's like a black cloud over the Magic Kingdom.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Right now, be the happiest place on Earth.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Right right, all right. Natalie Rodriguez with today's top stories. Natalie,
thanks so much.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Now let's bring in Weather Channel mediorologists raced Ageic for
today's forecast, brought to you by my friends over at
Brighter Home Services reach out today for a Brighter Tomorrow
at Brighterservices dot com. So ray real quick before we
get to what is very boring forecast for the Tampa
Bay area in South Florida. There is potentially going to
be a bit of disruption for travelers heading into Thanksgiving,

(07:42):
not necessarily because of the weather here, but in other
parts of the country.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Yeah. The thing that caught my attention this morning is
that there could be a storm that comes west east
across the country as we start early next week and
into Tuesday Wednesday, rolling across the Ohio Valley, maybe the
northeast and the Wingland and by about the Thursday to
Saturday time frame, So we'll keep an eye on that
impacts good range from anything from rain and a couple

(08:07):
of storms to maybe even some wintry presips, so that
could impact travel. I will keep everybody updated on that. Now,
the question is going to be when do we cool off.
A lot of mid eighties I think are going to
take not only Tampa but also Miami right through early
next week, given into the big travel day on Wednesday,
the morning hours may see a little fog at times
to our north up the Panhandle and just a little

(08:29):
further south. This morning there is a dense fog advisory,
so that may impact travel. But for Tampa we might
get close to some record warm For Miami you're gonna
get close, but not as close. And there's no rain mentioned.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So Ryan Dan, it does.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Look like more dry weather expected, more great outdoor. Whether
you want to do that drought monitor to do out
in about forty five minutes, and that's probably gonna show
increasing levels of drought across the state because it is yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Very dry.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
I mean you're talking deficits now and a lot of
it's in September one, during the heart of hurricanes's coaching. Yeah,
eight and nine inches and speaking of hurricane season, still
a few days left to go on that. Not going
to say it's impossible at this point to get anything
to develop, but the chances are slim but not zero.
And another thing that I saw yesterday that came in

(09:17):
from Melissa, hurricane hunters did report a maximum wind above
the surface at two hundred and fifty two miles.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Wow, whoa that.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
The surface drop songs one of the instruments they drop
out of the plane.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Still so yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
So it was with the number of cap fives we
had in the Atlantic, and unusually strong in terms of
the strength of some of these hurricanes, with the number
well below seasonal predictions.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
All Right, Weather Channel mediorologist Race Ajic with us Ray.
Thanks so much. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Sounds good,
Tom Ryan Gorman.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
With Dana McCain, Jason Baringer, Breonna Torrez, and Reed Shepherd
from our newsroom. Coming up this hour, Trump administration is
launching an airline civility campaign for holiday travelers. We're going
to tell you what that's about. Before seven twenty plus,
President Trump ordered the full release of the Epstein files.
We'll run through what comes next at around seven forty

(10:13):
seven before we get to today's top stories.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Quick note.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
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(10:37):
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Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
I looked at veterans and there was actually an organization
for women veterans. There was an organization that does kind
of like water activities for veterans to help them. I mean,
it was just very specific, like, yeah, things that you
can donate to.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
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(11:23):
Find them online at Asknehollands dot com. Good morning, Read,
Good morning Ryan, Good morning Dana. Well, we've heard an
awful lot about HOA abuse this week. Big crowd up
in Tallahassee earlier this week, arguing that abuses out of control.
Homeowners association boards have too much power or give themselves
too much power.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I like the Gestapo in some of these communities.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
Yeah, I've I've you know a lot of the horror
stories that we've heard there. It's got from Odessa named
Paul Miller, who put a lot of this together and
organized this rally.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
A lot of elderly.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
People or being intimidated, even people being forced out of
their homes. And it appears they may have at least
one ally in the legislature as well. Really, this is
Miami Representative Juan Porus. He is a Republican and basically
what he's saying is that dealing with Howays was his

(12:19):
number one priority as far as getting elected.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's you know, that's a pretty decent platform to run on.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I can see him getting a lot of ties with that.
That's not bad. He says.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
He is gearing up to file legislation, hasn't done it yet,
but is getting ready to filation to dissolve some howays
and create some kind of a new infrastructure to oversee
some of these complaints.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
So it's a balance because look, you let some people
just do their thing and they're going to destroy the
look of the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean, that's just a fact.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Some people are slobs and they just can't keep it together.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
But you've got some of these hoas where you know,
you have a little old lady in her grass gets
a little long, and they're ready to throw her out
on the street, you know.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
So I live in an HOA community, and I knew
when I moved in I got I actually had a
letter from the HOA that was addressed to the previous
owners when I moved in because they hadn't kept up
with the lawn. So I ended up having to spend
five hundred bucks to remulch everything, get my lawn all done.
Otherwise I was going to get a big fine. I
knew that moving in them, and I have to take
care of my yard. I'm going to have to clean

(13:30):
my mailbox, all of it. But in my old neighborhood.
And this probably happened about seven or eight years ago.
What was happening is for minor infractions, like you know,
a twenty five dollars fine for having a dirty mailbox
or something, it was getting escalated so quickly to legal
that a twenty five dollars fine would turn into an
eight thousand dollars legal lean.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
On a wall that's insane.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Reached a point where so many people had this happening
to them that there was a big meeting and people
were crying and screaming. They forced the entire HOA board
to resign, and then they got a new board in
that then got a new management company. And then it's
like a revolution, and we also know it really was.
And then I got cool, and then I ended up

(14:13):
joining a committee that was kind of like a go
between between the HOA and the residence where if somebody
got a letter or whatever, we would look it over
and then give the resident an opportunity to come and
kind of plead their case. So it opened up the
communication more Instead of going from you know, you didn't
pressure wash your driveway.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Ye, you got a lean on.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Your house, right right, There's got to be you know,
warning and a little time to get it together before,
like you said, you put a lien on the house.
There's I mean, there's got to be a balance between
again keeping things nice and tidy and not having neon
painted houses and you know, again throwing people out on
their ass because their mailbox was a little dirt.

Speaker 7 (14:53):
Yeah, but when you hear stories about people who can't
fly an American flag in front of their house only
except for only on certain days and they make them
take it down our face a two hundred dollars fine,
you know, that's what we had.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
The story about.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
They That's what I was thinking, that they have a.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Rule that you can only put up decorations for a
holiday within thirty days of the holiday. And you know,
military families, they were excited about Christmas coming, and so
they put up their Christmas decorations at the beginning of
November and they were told to take them down. And
I did actually see on News Nation a couple of
days after we did that story that that that hoa
they kind of backed off of it. A little bit sure,

(15:36):
and they said, they said, well, this is just guidelines,
but we understand that these families have their creative express
some nonsense.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
It wasn't guidelines until they got called out for it.
And you know, you might have a service member who
they're gonna have to leave before Christmas and maybe they're
they're home now and they want to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah again O those common sense people.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
Up to this point, what I've heard at least is
that if you'd take an HOA to court on a
dispute of some sort, you're likely to lose because it's
in the contracts.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Somewhere along the line that you agree to this.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
So if there's some kind of an infrastructure that this
representative Porus is looking at, you know, I'm willing.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I like to see it. I don't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
The one thing I don't have a problem with, then
HOA cracking down on and actually sending in law enforcement
take care of people, people that don't pick up after
the dogs.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
So hoas though they don't. I mean, I don't know
what it's like if your apartment complex has rules about it,
but I don't think there's any.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Rule about is that right? Dog?

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Poo in my community.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I would have a statute one hundred pages long on
something like that if I ran an hoa.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Can we kind of depend on like neighbors using their
ring camera to figure out who the culprit is and
then posting.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
It on the face. That's another way to go about it.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Really takes care of it like public That.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Makes sense, Tom Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay, Jason Barringer,
and Reed Shepherd from our newsroom coming upon the show
this hour. President Trump has officially ordered the full release
of the Epstein files. We're going to get to that
before five twenty plus. A member of Florida's congressional delegation
has been indicted. We're going to tell you who it
is and why in just a bit. Right now, let's

(17:11):
get to today's stop stories with Reed Sheppard.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
Good morning, Read, Good morning Ryan, Good morning Dana. Well,
we start with a couple of stories that seem to
be becoming more and more common these days. First of all,
we've got a registered sex offender arrested. This was after
a five month long investigation into communication with children in
another state. Turns out that twenty nine year old Chandler

(17:35):
Reese was sending material to two children in Alabama on Snapchat.
He is a registered sexual offender currently on active probation.
Detectives went to his home November thirteenth, rest and arrested him.
He now faces a bunch of charges, basically use of

(17:55):
computer services for luter lacibus exhibition, so forth and so on.
But another thing, it just seems to be kind of
a little bit too common.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yees and credit to the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Offices Internet
Predator Unit, which has to be really busy these days.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Oh, it's just so disgusting, and they're no grown man
should be on Snapchat.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
No, that's a red flag number one. But you know,
to that point, we've talked about this before, But these
are the tools that these sexual predators have that they
didn't have twenty five years ago. You know, twenty five
years ago sexual predators you would picture them in like
a white van, you know, promising puppies or candy or

(18:40):
something near a playground, you know what I mean. Now
they're on the same social media platform as your kid
and rollblocks made some news yesterday too. They're going to
be requiring all users to verify their age before being
able to use the chat features.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's it's a gaming play. But you honestly know more
about it, Dana than I do.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Well, I should know more about it than I actually do.
But my son and all of his friends play roadblocks,
and I mean he's on there, and I know he
uses the chat because he talks. He tells me he
talks to his friends on there, And we haven't been
asked to verify his age at all, So I don't
know if they haven't implemented that or what.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, so how there I guess going to do it.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
And I don't know when exactly this is rolling out,
but you'll have to either submit a government I d
so that I guess. You know, if you're an adult,
you could do that, or they have an AI age
estimation tool that will like scan your son's face and
determine his age based on on that.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's how they're they're gonna do it.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
That sounds scary in and of itself, it kind of
does agree, and it follows, you know, a bunch of
lawsuits they've had.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
There's been sexual abuse, there's been kidnappings, all this kind
of stuff with creeps, perverts on roadblocks, interacting with kids,
and they're trying to pretend protect younger users from eventually
ending up in those chats with adults who were looking to.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Do them harm.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, well, yeah, they need to be doing something about it.
I was actually talking to friends about this the other
night and one of my friends was like, oh, Roadblocks,
like they do a lot to protect kids, and I
was like, no, they don't.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
No.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
It totally caught me up guard. I was like, you
need to go read up on that. No, they don't.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, now maybe more so, and especially because they've been
hit with a bunch of lawsuits, like the Attorney General
here in Florida has been going after them, and a
bunch of others.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
Our other story that's kind of becoming a little bit
too common these days. We have a student from Strawberry
Crest High School was arrested earlier this week for bringing
a firearm and a knife to school. This is a
fifteen year old student who was seen leaving the restroom
with a vape on Tuesdays.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
So, kidd, he had it all. He had a baby,
he had a gun, he had a knife.

Speaker 7 (20:47):
So he didn't really want anybody to search his backpack.
He resisted the deputy's efforts. Actually tried to grab the
deputy's gun in the middle of the search, so they
covered a loaded handgun and a knife. He was arrested
immediately and has been charged with possession of a firearm
on school grounds. I think what's kind of if there's

(21:11):
anything kind of unique about this, it's that he really
tried to fight the deputy and tried to grab the gun.
That could have been a real problem, and fortunately they
put a stop to it.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, we just saw that deputy down in South Florida
who was killed during that minor traffic stop where the
suspect flipped out, grabbed his gun and shot him multiple times.
The problem that this fifteen year old ran into was
that he didn't bring grenades to school.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
If he had just brought grenades.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Based on that story out of Sarasota yesterday, yeah, no trouble.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, he brought a gun in a knife. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I guess right.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
So the Hillsboro County Sheriff's Office is I saw this
story yesterday. I thought though it was fascinating for a reason.
I'll get into it in a moment. The sheriff's office
is adding an error more safety in its detention facilities.
It's an extra way to call for help. It's called
the Senategi's Safety Alert System and basically detention deputy can

(22:19):
press a button on their special Senategick's badge, staff can
instantly relay their exact location. This would if they lose
radio communication or need assistance during a critical situation. Now,
you recall an incident a few months ago where an
inmate actually jumped a detention deputy in Hillsboro County and well,

(22:43):
we just had to us in South Florida that we
talked about yesterday where you had an inmate stab with
a homemade shank corrections office.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Uh huh.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
And it was actually in this case in Hillsboro, if
you're recall, it was actually several minutes before help arrive.
So the idea here is to reduce the time the
response time for somebody getting help or assistance spot there's
an emergency that breaks out.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I think it's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
It's kind of like that I've fallen and I can't
get up device.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it's like.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Whatever's at Falkenberg Road right now and should be active
at the Orient Road Jail before the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Again, we were talking about this yesterday when we discussed
that South Florida story.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's just one of the warst stocks I can imagine.
I mean, that's a tough gig.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
So this just into the news room. New report names
Tampa as the worst spot in the country for holiday traffic.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I thought this was interesting in that. Yeah, well, you
got a lot of people who want to come here.
I guess, you know, warm weather.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
So Consumer Affairs was looking at four different metrics, hours
of congestion during the holidays, miles traveled during the holidays,
fatal crashes on clear days, fatal crashes in bad weather.
It showed that Tampa had the highest jump in congestion
during the holidays, and drivers could be stuck for about

(24:04):
four hours and twenty four minutes of heavy traffic daily. Now,
how does that compare with any normal day being stuck
in traffic on I four Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
It seems like I mean, I think the study said
it was like a thirty six percent spike, so exactly
quite a bit more, which I guess makes sense. You've
got a lot more people who are going to be
here in the area for Thanksgiving, A lot of people
I've noticed families do these deals where they go places
for Thanksgiving now, like they'll go to uh, you know,
resort or something for them. Yeah, yeah, which I mean

(24:38):
I would have never imagined that years ago.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
You always go to stuck with the family. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
So the top five cities with the worst holiday traffic
according of the study, Tampa number one, Birmingham, Saint Louis, Cleveland,
and Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, it's a weird list. Cleveland, who's going.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
I can understand Tampa because people want to.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
And even Phoenix, Yeah, but going to Birming yeah or Cleveland,
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I don't like traveling for Thanksgiving is a holiday where
I don't want to have to move a lot, you
know what I mean. I want to just enjoy the
food and then and then sit back and relax and
pass out and then have some more of it.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't like to. That's why I host it now.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
That's we might go to somebody's house or something like that,
sit there, watch the Lions lose. You know.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
That's exactly. I don't want to do big traveling on Thanksgiving,
all right? Read Shepherd with Today's tap stories. Read thanks
so much, you later
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