December 4, 2025 • 9 mins
State Representative Peggy Gossett-Seidman tells us about a bill that aims to stop Florida from selling driver data.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Recently, we told you about a bill that's been proposed
for the upcoming legislative session that aims to stop the
state from selling your information information from the DMV that
includes your name, your address, your birthday, driver's license numbers,
all kinds of different stuff, and that information was being
(00:22):
sold to private companies, data brokers, foreign owned firms. This
is something that I certainly didn't know about, and based
on the reaction to that segment, most of you didn't
know about this either. Joining us on the hotline right now,
we have the state lawmaker behind this bill. Were joined
by Representative Peggy Gossit Sideman. She's a Republican from the
(00:44):
ninety first district representing Boca. Representative Gussit Sibin, thank you
so much for a ticket a few minutes to come
on the show. So, like I said, I had no
idea this was going on. Most of the people that
we heard from didn't know this was going on. How
did you find out this was happening?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yes, sir, thank you for that question.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Because I read my emails from constituents and I meet
people I ran for office and knocked. I actually walk
five hundred and thirty two miles to pairs of tennis shoes.
So I would hear from people that they would go
to the DMV or they get a speeding ticket, and
they would be flooded with their own information and please call,
you know, for one one get me out of jail.
(01:21):
So I started accumulating those messages, and it appeared to
me that it was too many, over twenty twenty thirty
people over these few years, and I said, let me
look into it, and sure enough found out that the
DMV does sell the data and did a deep dive.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And here we are with the bill.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
What was the reason.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Have you been able to find out the reason that
this was initially allowed here in Florida?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Was it just to collect revenue?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
No, actually, it's it's been going on. It looks like
now more than thirty years. I think what happened is
it got have had a the government and public knowledge.
And of course the DMV would be requested by insurance
companies and car dealers primarily, and law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Those are the big three.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
They need access to those files because of auto accidents recalls.
You know, you get a recall safety recall, they have
to notify people who has such a car.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So that's understandable.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Over the years, it looks like people figured out that
they could take that data and combine it with other
records and resell it, and it's being resold to third parties.
The DMV doesn't like to take an ad out how
you want to buy your neighbor's record.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's not like that. There are many.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
People in leadership right now up here in Tallahassee who
had no idea that was going on. And if they
had an idea, I don't think the expanse and the
level was known, and that's why I've had a lot
of widespread support. But that's where it came from. It's
nothing scurrillous. That course, the NBA has to charge for
(03:02):
records because they've limited budget, but it wasn't like they
were going out to you to sell us. It just
escalated exponentially as it just move faster than we did.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We're joined by Representative Peggy Gossit Sideman talking about her
bill that aims to stop the state from selling driver's
license and ID information. So explain what exactly your bill
would do well.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
My bill would limit the sales as best possible to
no sales to third party data brokers, and limit them
to those necessary to do their own to do business again,
the insurers, the law enforcement primarily, and that would cover
investigative private investigators, and law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And it would.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Include car dealerships and car manufacturers, especially for recalls. As
we all know, we've probably all had a recall in
our life, and limit it being sold to third party
data brokers who would then sell it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
We have no idea where it's going when it leaves
our state. We do not know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I've already tracked it to companies in Mexico, China, Ireland,
all over. And that's what we would like to That's
what we need to stop. We need to protect people
so that their information is held in good faith by
the people who need to have it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
What has the reaction been like among your fellow lawmakers.
I know what the reaction has been like from the
segment that we did on it, from the video that
we posted about our conversation discussing this bill on social media.
People are outraged. They had no idea. They want your
bill to pass. What have you been hearing from fellow lawmakers.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, fellow lawmakers are behind me. I've not heard anything negative.
I believe a lot of people have been taken by
surprise because it really took a deep dive and one
question leads to an other leads to another. I used
to be a reporter, so I keep asking questions and
they understand that we have to do something due to Again,
(05:10):
we're not in the business of it tech expertise, but
we need to get our people on it and better
protect our state of Florida. I've not heard one person
say back down. It caught them by surprise. And look
at the people we have in our state. We have
high profile people, athletes, entertainers, media, we have all kinds
of people we wish to protect. In terms of that,
(05:33):
people know they live in Florida. So if you have
a fan in Canada, they know that that guy lives
in Florida. And we have to protect every single person
with the driver's license to the best of our ability.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And it just got away from us.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I don't think there was any nefarious actor in terms
of the government. It was really that it just got
away from us and we need to stop it.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We're joined by Representative Peggy Gossit Sideman. She's a Republican
represents the ninety first district in Boca. And you say
that you know, this was something that doesn't seem to
be nefarious. I do wonder though, there's almost half a
billion dollars brought in to the state from all of this,
how did that money factor in?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Where, where exactly did that come from?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That came from law enforcement? Again, law enforcement auto manufacturers.
Now there are different rates. You can you can order
mass sales of our DMV records for a very low cost,
and that's what we're looking to stop. If you want
a driving record for X, Y, and Z, three people,
(06:38):
that's ten dollars each. That's where the fees were coming from.
And again again, if Ford Motor Company wants to recall
a transmission, they need all.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The people in Florida who on that vehicle.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They're going to request all of their data to send
them the literally the lawful mail to make sure they
know about the recall. That's that's fine, But once it
leaves those people and goes to a third party, and
sometimes they combine this with your credit, your history of
homes and automobile or vehicle sales. Some of them have
(07:10):
even accessed possibly military information. That's when that's combined with
your DMV by these third parties and resold and that's
what we aim to stop. And I've also in the
bill offered an an opt out so you can go
on the DMV site and opt out and having your
records capable of being transmitted. Many states have that. We're
(07:33):
not the only state looking into this. Texas and several
others actively I found out looking into tightening their security.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's just that they have to know about it in
order to tighten it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Last question for you, for those who want to make
sure this bill passes in this upcoming session, what do
you recommend we all do?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yes, sir, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well. They certainly may email me and their local representatives
and senators to let them know that they would like
to have the State of Florida and the DMV lockdown
to giving the bid, providing that information to those critical
to have it and those not critical, and just using
our records. Sometimes they take our DMV records and resell
(08:13):
it back to law enforcement, when we're the ones who
provided it in the first place, keeping it in house
and protected so that it doesn't lead the country and
goes who knows where.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Representative Peggy Gossip Sideman, Republican from the ninety first district
representing Boca again behind this bill aiming to stop the
state from selling driver and ID data. Representative gus it Siman,
thank you so much for the work you're doing on
this and for taking time to come on the show.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes, sir, if I could add that Senator Kladiud of
Miami is my senate sponsor and she is a very
gung ho and also got some other senators on the
West coast helping out, so peep. Let people know to
right their state elected officials and we'll get it done.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
All right.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Good to know, and thanks again for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Hopefully we'll have you back on to talk more about
this as the bill progresses.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Thank you very much, Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
The Ryan Gorman Show five to nine every weekday morning
on news radio WFLA
Recently, we told you about a bill that's been proposed
for the upcoming legislative session that aims to stop the
state from selling your information information from the DMV that
includes your name, your address, your birthday, driver's license numbers,
all kinds of different stuff, and that information was being
(00:22):
sold to private companies, data brokers, foreign owned firms. This
is something that I certainly didn't know about, and based
on the reaction to that segment, most of you didn't
know about this either. Joining us on the hotline right now,
we have the state lawmaker behind this bill. Were joined
by Representative Peggy Gossit Sideman. She's a Republican from the
(00:44):
ninety first district representing Boca. Representative Gussit Sibin, thank you
so much for a ticket a few minutes to come
on the show. So, like I said, I had no
idea this was going on. Most of the people that
we heard from didn't know this was going on. How
did you find out this was happening?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yes, sir, thank you for that question.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Because I read my emails from constituents and I meet
people I ran for office and knocked. I actually walk
five hundred and thirty two miles to pairs of tennis shoes.
So I would hear from people that they would go
to the DMV or they get a speeding ticket, and
they would be flooded with their own information and please call,
you know, for one one get me out of jail.
(01:21):
So I started accumulating those messages, and it appeared to
me that it was too many, over twenty twenty thirty
people over these few years, and I said, let me
look into it, and sure enough found out that the
DMV does sell the data and did a deep dive.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And here we are with the bill.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
What was the reason.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Have you been able to find out the reason that
this was initially allowed here in Florida?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Was it just to collect revenue?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
No, actually, it's it's been going on. It looks like
now more than thirty years. I think what happened is
it got have had a the government and public knowledge.
And of course the DMV would be requested by insurance
companies and car dealers primarily, and law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Those are the big three.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
They need access to those files because of auto accidents recalls.
You know, you get a recall safety recall, they have
to notify people who has such a car.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So that's understandable.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Over the years, it looks like people figured out that
they could take that data and combine it with other
records and resell it, and it's being resold to third parties.
The DMV doesn't like to take an ad out how
you want to buy your neighbor's record.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's not like that. There are many.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
People in leadership right now up here in Tallahassee who
had no idea that was going on. And if they
had an idea, I don't think the expanse and the
level was known, and that's why I've had a lot
of widespread support. But that's where it came from. It's
nothing scurrillous. That course, the NBA has to charge for
(03:02):
records because they've limited budget, but it wasn't like they
were going out to you to sell us. It just
escalated exponentially as it just move faster than we did.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We're joined by Representative Peggy Gossit Sideman talking about her
bill that aims to stop the state from selling driver's
license and ID information. So explain what exactly your bill
would do well.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
My bill would limit the sales as best possible to
no sales to third party data brokers, and limit them
to those necessary to do their own to do business again,
the insurers, the law enforcement primarily, and that would cover
investigative private investigators, and law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And it would.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Include car dealerships and car manufacturers, especially for recalls. As
we all know, we've probably all had a recall in
our life, and limit it being sold to third party
data brokers who would then sell it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
We have no idea where it's going when it leaves
our state. We do not know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I've already tracked it to companies in Mexico, China, Ireland,
all over. And that's what we would like to That's
what we need to stop. We need to protect people
so that their information is held in good faith by
the people who need to have it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
What has the reaction been like among your fellow lawmakers.
I know what the reaction has been like from the
segment that we did on it, from the video that
we posted about our conversation discussing this bill on social media.
People are outraged. They had no idea. They want your
bill to pass. What have you been hearing from fellow lawmakers.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, fellow lawmakers are behind me. I've not heard anything negative.
I believe a lot of people have been taken by
surprise because it really took a deep dive and one
question leads to an other leads to another. I used
to be a reporter, so I keep asking questions and
they understand that we have to do something due to Again,
(05:10):
we're not in the business of it tech expertise, but
we need to get our people on it and better
protect our state of Florida. I've not heard one person
say back down. It caught them by surprise. And look
at the people we have in our state. We have
high profile people, athletes, entertainers, media, we have all kinds
of people we wish to protect. In terms of that,
(05:33):
people know they live in Florida. So if you have
a fan in Canada, they know that that guy lives
in Florida. And we have to protect every single person
with the driver's license to the best of our ability.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And it just got away from us.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I don't think there was any nefarious actor in terms
of the government. It was really that it just got
away from us and we need to stop it.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We're joined by Representative Peggy Gossit Sideman. She's a Republican
represents the ninety first district in Boca. And you say
that you know, this was something that doesn't seem to
be nefarious. I do wonder though, there's almost half a
billion dollars brought in to the state from all of this,
how did that money factor in?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Where, where exactly did that come from?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That came from law enforcement? Again, law enforcement auto manufacturers.
Now there are different rates. You can you can order
mass sales of our DMV records for a very low cost,
and that's what we're looking to stop. If you want
a driving record for X, Y, and Z, three people,
(06:38):
that's ten dollars each. That's where the fees were coming from.
And again again, if Ford Motor Company wants to recall
a transmission, they need all.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The people in Florida who on that vehicle.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They're going to request all of their data to send
them the literally the lawful mail to make sure they
know about the recall. That's that's fine, But once it
leaves those people and goes to a third party, and
sometimes they combine this with your credit, your history of
homes and automobile or vehicle sales. Some of them have
(07:10):
even accessed possibly military information. That's when that's combined with
your DMV by these third parties and resold and that's
what we aim to stop. And I've also in the
bill offered an an opt out so you can go
on the DMV site and opt out and having your
records capable of being transmitted. Many states have that. We're
(07:33):
not the only state looking into this. Texas and several
others actively I found out looking into tightening their security.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's just that they have to know about it in
order to tighten it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Last question for you, for those who want to make
sure this bill passes in this upcoming session, what do
you recommend we all do?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yes, sir, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well. They certainly may email me and their local representatives
and senators to let them know that they would like
to have the State of Florida and the DMV lockdown
to giving the bid, providing that information to those critical
to have it and those not critical, and just using
our records. Sometimes they take our DMV records and resell
(08:13):
it back to law enforcement, when we're the ones who
provided it in the first place, keeping it in house
and protected so that it doesn't lead the country and
goes who knows where.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Representative Peggy Gossip Sideman, Republican from the ninety first district
representing Boca again behind this bill aiming to stop the
state from selling driver and ID data. Representative gus it Siman,
thank you so much for the work you're doing on
this and for taking time to come on the show.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes, sir, if I could add that Senator Kladiud of
Miami is my senate sponsor and she is a very
gung ho and also got some other senators on the
West coast helping out, so peep. Let people know to
right their state elected officials and we'll get it done.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
All right.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Good to know, and thanks again for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Hopefully we'll have you back on to talk more about
this as the bill progresses.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Thank you very much, Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
The Ryan Gorman Show five to nine every weekday morning
on news radio WFLA
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