December 12, 2025 • 17 mins
Ryan explains the areas where Congress is coming up short in its attempts to address health care costs. Plus, Rory O'Neill recaps DHS Secretary Kristi Noem's congressional testimony and Time Magazine picks its "Person of the Year" for 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yesterday in the eight o'clock hour, I talked about this
op ed from doctor Zach Cooper, an associate professor of
public health and economics at Yale, and the op ed
argued that Congress is locked in the wrong battle right now.
They're debating subsidies instead of tackling the underlying issue soaring
healthcare spending. Now you can hear the full segment where
(00:23):
we really dive into the op ed. The podcast is
up for you to search for Ryan Gorman Show on
your iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. I
liken it to putting a band aid on a gunshot wound.
And even if you're not impacted by the potential increase
in premiums because you aren't on the Obamacare exchanges, you're
(00:44):
still feeling the effects of high healthcare costs. The amount
employers are paying for your coverage. I think that's not
impacting how much you make at work. We know what
impacts whether or not companies offer full or part time jobs,
and you're getting less bang for your buck these days.
You're paying more and more out of pocket with these
(01:06):
high deductible plans. And some of the reasons for these
soaring costs, which again really aren't being addressed in the
bills being flowed by either party in Congress. Right now,
You've had lots of consolidation, so you've got a few big,
big insurance companies, hospital systems, pharmacy benefit managers. When it
(01:29):
comes to prescription drugs, you've got pharmaceutical companies. They can
only price their drugs so high in certain countries because
of how their healthcare systems are set up, So where
you think they're going to try to make up the
difference here, it's part of the reason our drug costs
are so high. But the problem, and this is the
reason you're not seeing any of these underlying issues addressed.
(01:50):
Why Congresses is trying to put a band aid again
over the gunshot wound. Yet any potential solution is inevitably
going to lead to winners and losers. And there is
nobody in Congress who wants to make those kinds of
tough decisions. It's going to cause people their seats. And
(02:11):
think about this for a second. If the US health
system or a country, the amount spent would make it
the third largest economy in the world, what does that
tell you You got a lot of interests, a lot
of jobs, a lot of money at stake with how
all of this plays out. That's why nothing is changing.
(02:31):
But just something to keep in mind as we watch
Republicans and Democrats battle over these subsidies or you know,
one thousand to fifteen hundred dollars in a health savings account.
These you're just cracking the surface of the broader issue
with our healthcare system that nobody is going to touch
anytime soon. Well, let's bring in our national correspondent, Rory O'Neill,
(02:54):
who supports brought to you by Mark Spain real Estate.
So Rory Department of Homeland Security, second carry Christy Nome
testifying before Congress yesterday. There were some interesting moments. What
stood out to you?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, the fact that she left early, had to go
to a meeting that didn't exist.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I thought that was interesting. Yeah, she, uh what before?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think she told the committee just after noon that
she had to go to a one o'clock FEMA redo meeting,
and then that FEMA meeting had been canceled.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Wow, I don't believe those hearings are a lot and aggravating.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well that and then they're just performance, are you right,
It's just that member of Congress trying to get on
with their favorite talk show host on MS Now or Fix.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You know, so you're just like, okay, let's just get
through this.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
There was an interesting moment involving a Democrat confronting Gnome
with a veteran who was deported. So that came right
after she said Ice hadn't deported any veterans. Now, this
person self deported in June, right, But just in that moment,
all of a sudden, the guy pops up on zoom
(04:03):
from South Korea, and it did raise a question. You know,
this is somebody who served our country, had been shot
twice while serving in Panama in nineteen eighty nine, struggled
like a lot of veterans have with PTSD and addiction,
got a couple of minor drug charges in the nineties,
and you know, he felt like he was going to
(04:24):
be deported anyway, so he self deported, but didn't lived
there since age seven, and so the question kind of became,
is that who we want to be removing from the country.
I thought that was quite a moment there, and then here, well.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, congressman magazine er there, making him one of several saying, oh,
here's a guy who has three sons who all became marines,
all serving honorably, etc.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Etc.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, so they tried to use these examples, that same
kind of trick they always pull in a presidential debate, right, oh,
Sally and whatever your battleground state says, she's got three kids,
can't paid the prescriptions, whatever that scenario is.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But yeah, no, I thought it was certainly effective.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And then bringing the guy in by zoom and then
there were others in the room, was that, you know,
his wife has been held at an immigration center for
four months now because she passed a bad check and
all these kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I think it does try to humanize things.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But remember this was also supposed to be hearing about
global security threats.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, not really about all the immigration operations, right.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Going, Well, the main topic of a lot of these
hearings often gets pushed to the background for whatever it
is lawmakers want to bring up. And on that note,
there was reporting axios from Mark Pudo's got great sources
inside the administration who said that Department of Homeland Security
Secretary of Christi Noman borders are Tom Homan barely speaking,
(05:49):
and apparently there's a big policy disagreement between the two
where NOME has been pushing for more of those broad
sweeping deportations kind of like what we were just talking about.
We're home in and ICE leaders they wanted to do
more of the targeted immigration enforcement operations against criminals. So
(06:12):
a bit of a disagreement in how you know they
conduct all of this.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You know, So that FEMA meeting was also canceled yesterday.
FEMA comes under Homeland Security and Secretary NOME. Well, the
word is they're going to rename FEMA the National Office
of Emergency Management.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Office of Emergency Management nome A took me a second.
That's Friday, Yeah, okay, that would be quite something. Well yeah, yeah,
all right, let's get to another story you're covering this morning.
We're joined by our national correspondent Rory O'Neil.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You've got a new study on America's workforce shortage. You've
got JP Morgan. They are they are ringing the alarm
bells right now now about something that could be a
national security risk.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, essentially saying our workforce isn't ready for the jobs
that are coming, especially when you look at industries like
you know, we've talked before about how all these AI
data centers are going to be gobbling up all the
energy out there. Well, who's expanding the grid, what electricians,
what linemen are out there?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Apparently we're short about two hundred thousand. Where there are
going to be three point.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Eight million additional manufacturing jobs by twenty thirty three, half
of them may go unfilled because we don't have skilled labor.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's and that's the real challenge in the specialties and
defense contractors saying we can't find anybody, you know, who's
a welder to help build a new aircraft carrier or
a brand new nuclear submarine. So they're struggling in that
regard as well. So JP Morgan's argument is this is
about national security at this point, not just you know,
getting more kids high paying jobs.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, they argued that, you know, this one point five
trillion dollar US investment push into all this, it's not
gonna matter if the industries can't find people do the work.
And it feels like we just don't have a plan.
You know, we need workers for all of these jobs.
Plus we want to bring jobs back for stuff like
building iPhones and cars. We don't have enough people to
(08:16):
do all of that. So right, like what is the
plan and what is the priority? Here kind of feels
like we're at a at a crossroads and we kinda
well got to figure out need.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We're also going to need fifty plans because you know,
if the government, federal government is getting out of education,
then it's got to be on the states then to
put together these programs in order to look maybe it's
because some state in Texas is luring in some new
chip maker and then maybe they should focus on that
next generation where somebody at bath Iron Works and Mainz
(08:50):
is we need more riveters and welders, right, and let
them focus on that there for building ships.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So uh yeah, but it doesn't seem.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That a national strategy is something that's to work with
this administration.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
All right, we're joined by our national correspondent Roy O'Neil
this morning. Rory, thanks so much. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Thanks. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Let's go straight to the hotline now and bring in
our White House correspondent John Decker to recap this week's
top White House storyline. So, John, another busy week for
the president.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Oh absolutely, it was a busy week for the president.
And I think what is dominated this particular week was
foreign news in the sense that the President continues to
try to end the war in Ukraine through his emissaries,
and in addition to that, of course, the seizure of
that oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela. And then
(09:40):
you had domestic news yesterday the Senate failing to move
forward with legislation that would extend those expiring Obamacare subsidies.
So for those individuals that get their insurance through the
Affordable Care Act, their insurance premiums will rise at the
very beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, and the House is going to try to take
up the issue next week, so we'll see how involved
the President gets in that. Meanwhile, he's going to be
attending the Army Navy Game, which is always just an
amazing event.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It is so much tradition associated with it. I was
at the Army Navy Game last year with my wife
a very cold day. They played it at the stadium
where the Commanders play their NFL football games. I've been
to it many times, but tomorrow I'll be there with
President Trump. I'll be part of the pool traveling to
Baltimore for the Army Navy Game, and there's just so
(10:33):
much history and tradition associated with it. It's exciting, you know.
And the president, of course commander in chief, so he'll
be warmly welcomed by the crowd on hand for the
Army Navy game.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What can we expect from the president next week? Is
there anything on deck that we should know about.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
That's a good question. I don't know of any travel
that is planned by the president. As you know, one
of the things the President did this week was he
hit the road. He went to the Poconos in pennsylvani
And the White House says there will be more of
those types of events, a lot more of those types
of events that will take place in twenty twenty six.
But I don't know if there is a specific event
(11:10):
like the one we saw this past week in Pennsylvania
taking place next week, an event in which the President
talks about affordability issues.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
No right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Our White House correspondent John Decker with us this morning. John,
always appreciate the updates. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I look forward to have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Ryan, byebye, all right you as well, And again you
can get more of John Decker's reporting from the White
House check out the White House Briefing Room podcast on
your iHeartRadio app. Let's go straight to the hotline and
bring in Don Mahallick, who's back with us. He's an
ABC News Law enforcement contributor, retired Senior Secret Service agent,
and a US Coast Guard Reserve veteran. Don, thanks so
(11:47):
much for joining us. Want to talk about this incredible
operation off the coast of Venezuela, the US seizing and
oil tanker. What can you tell us about what went down?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
It was incredible, but according to the Department of Justice,
this vessel had been under investigation for violating international law
in relation to transporting contraband to Iran oil to Iran.
So the Department of Justice said that they got a
seizure warrant which they handed to the US Coast Guard,
who are the maritime law enforcement experts, and had them
(12:18):
enforced the seizure warrant. So the Coast Guard, working with
the Navy and some other federal partners, found the ship,
identified the ship, and then seized the ship using its
Tier one Maritime Security Response Team the MSRT team, which
is a team of highly trained Coast Guard personnel that
stemmed out of nine to eleven. They needed a counter
(12:39):
maritime law enforcement capability, so the Coast Guard created the
Maritime Security Response Team in order to in order to
enforce or combat maritime terrorism. So they would aboard the ship,
they swept and cleared it, they enforced the seizure warrant.
They take the ship into custody and it's personnal to custody,
(12:59):
and my guests is the next stop is probably Houston
and then once it's there, they will process this as
a federal seizure, which the Coast Guard has done for decades.
This is the Coast Guard's bread and butter. This is
what they do. So for the Coast Guard, this is
nothing new. I think what's new for the American people
is the fact that the Venezuela issue has created a
(13:23):
lot of concerning questions when the American people and the
fact that this was such a large vessel, was an
oil tanker. Typically the typically these seize your warrants are
you know, personal craft or yachts or even small cargo
vessels or fishing boats a car. An oil tanker is
a larger vessel that is not typical in these situations.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
But if you're violating the law, you're violating the law.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
And the Coast Guard will enforce the law on each
and every vessel because it is the only military branch
in the federal government that has maritime law enforcement authority
not only in US territorial waters but out in the
open sea as well. But the other thing to keep
in mind is any vessel that either isn't flagged, that
doesn't have a flag or was registered someplace, or is
(14:08):
in an act of piracy like off the coast of Somalia,
or is violating international law by smuggling contraband which could
be humans, drugs, or in this case oil. If they
do that, they waive their rights under international law, which
permits the Coast Guard to stop, inspect, and seize any vessel.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
We're joined by ABC News law enforcement contributor and US
Coast Guard Reserve veteran Don Mahllick. What about the operation
itself and the risks to the members of the Coast
Guard who are conducting an operation like this.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So this type of operation is something in the Coast Guard,
especially the MSRT team, trained for routinely, which is you
saw the helicopter insertion of the team members on to
the ship. Anything you do underway on the water is
dangerous because you don't have a lot of room to
move around, and they always have to be cognizant of that.
(15:06):
So it does take a lot of training and a
lot of planning in order to effectively execute an operation
like they did. And intelligence gathering too, which the Coast Guard,
which most people aren't aware of, has a pretty robust
maritime intelligence section, gleaning maritime intelligence from both domestic and
international partners, specifically for ships committing crimes, pirate ships ship
(15:30):
doing piracy, or a contraband drug smelling or whatever you know.
The Coast Guard is part of that maritime intelligence loop
which allows it to find, identify, and stop these vessels
that are violating our laws or international law. This is
the cost the Coast Guards bread and butter, and from
the seventies when we declared the war on drugs, this
(15:51):
is what the Coast Guard has been doing that in
the Caribbean since, So for them, this is nothing new.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Retired Senior Secret Service agent, US Coast Guard Reserve veteran
and an ABC News Law enforcement contributor, Don Mahallick with us.
Don really appreciate your time and insight. Thanks so much.
Thanks for having me, Ryan Well time magazine picked the
architects of AI, including Elon Musk and Sam Altman, who
runs Open Ai, as its Person of the Year, saying
(16:19):
this is the moment when AI's full force and influence
became impossible to ignore. Editor Sam Jacobs rights the twenty
twenty five was the year AI's potential roared, interview reshaping
how people work, create and make decisions. And they're one
hundred percent right on all of that. I don't like
(16:39):
how they did the cover though, and the whole architects
of AI things. So the cover shows an AI themed
scaffolding build and a recreation the nineteen thirty two lunch
atop a skyscraper photo with tech leaders included. It really
should have just been like an AI image, I think,
or something. It should have just been about the AI
(17:02):
aspect of what we've seen over the course of the
past year, not so much about like all the people
behind it in my opinion, But there's no doubt, I mean,
just in what I do every single day, the amount
that I use AI completely different from a year ago.
An Apple just named chatchy BT the most downloaded free
iPhone app of twenty twenty five, ahead of things like
(17:24):
Google TikTok, WhatsApp, So that gives you a sense as
to how much people are flocking to these different platforms,
these different AI options to try to see what they
can do for them.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
There's a Ryan Gorman Show five to nine every weekday
morning on news radio two u FLA
Yesterday in the eight o'clock hour, I talked about this
op ed from doctor Zach Cooper, an associate professor of
public health and economics at Yale, and the op ed
argued that Congress is locked in the wrong battle right now.
They're debating subsidies instead of tackling the underlying issue soaring
healthcare spending. Now you can hear the full segment where
(00:23):
we really dive into the op ed. The podcast is
up for you to search for Ryan Gorman Show on
your iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. I
liken it to putting a band aid on a gunshot wound.
And even if you're not impacted by the potential increase
in premiums because you aren't on the Obamacare exchanges, you're
(00:44):
still feeling the effects of high healthcare costs. The amount
employers are paying for your coverage. I think that's not
impacting how much you make at work. We know what
impacts whether or not companies offer full or part time jobs,
and you're getting less bang for your buck these days.
You're paying more and more out of pocket with these
(01:06):
high deductible plans. And some of the reasons for these
soaring costs, which again really aren't being addressed in the
bills being flowed by either party in Congress. Right now,
You've had lots of consolidation, so you've got a few big,
big insurance companies, hospital systems, pharmacy benefit managers. When it
(01:29):
comes to prescription drugs, you've got pharmaceutical companies. They can
only price their drugs so high in certain countries because
of how their healthcare systems are set up, So where
you think they're going to try to make up the
difference here, it's part of the reason our drug costs
are so high. But the problem, and this is the
reason you're not seeing any of these underlying issues addressed.
(01:50):
Why Congresses is trying to put a band aid again
over the gunshot wound. Yet any potential solution is inevitably
going to lead to winners and losers. And there is
nobody in Congress who wants to make those kinds of
tough decisions. It's going to cause people their seats. And
(02:11):
think about this for a second. If the US health
system or a country, the amount spent would make it
the third largest economy in the world, what does that
tell you You got a lot of interests, a lot
of jobs, a lot of money at stake with how
all of this plays out. That's why nothing is changing.
(02:31):
But just something to keep in mind as we watch
Republicans and Democrats battle over these subsidies or you know,
one thousand to fifteen hundred dollars in a health savings account.
These you're just cracking the surface of the broader issue
with our healthcare system that nobody is going to touch
anytime soon. Well, let's bring in our national correspondent, Rory O'Neill,
(02:54):
who supports brought to you by Mark Spain real Estate.
So Rory Department of Homeland Security, second carry Christy Nome
testifying before Congress yesterday. There were some interesting moments. What
stood out to you?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, the fact that she left early, had to go
to a meeting that didn't exist.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I thought that was interesting. Yeah, she, uh what before?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think she told the committee just after noon that
she had to go to a one o'clock FEMA redo meeting,
and then that FEMA meeting had been canceled.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Wow, I don't believe those hearings are a lot and aggravating.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well that and then they're just performance, are you right,
It's just that member of Congress trying to get on
with their favorite talk show host on MS Now or Fix.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You know, so you're just like, okay, let's just get
through this.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
There was an interesting moment involving a Democrat confronting Gnome
with a veteran who was deported. So that came right
after she said Ice hadn't deported any veterans. Now, this
person self deported in June, right, But just in that moment,
all of a sudden, the guy pops up on zoom
(04:03):
from South Korea, and it did raise a question. You know,
this is somebody who served our country, had been shot
twice while serving in Panama in nineteen eighty nine, struggled
like a lot of veterans have with PTSD and addiction,
got a couple of minor drug charges in the nineties,
and you know, he felt like he was going to
(04:24):
be deported anyway, so he self deported, but didn't lived
there since age seven, and so the question kind of became,
is that who we want to be removing from the country.
I thought that was quite a moment there, and then here, well.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, congressman magazine er there, making him one of several saying, oh,
here's a guy who has three sons who all became marines,
all serving honorably, etc.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Etc.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, so they tried to use these examples, that same
kind of trick they always pull in a presidential debate, right, oh,
Sally and whatever your battleground state says, she's got three kids,
can't paid the prescriptions, whatever that scenario is.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But yeah, no, I thought it was certainly effective.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And then bringing the guy in by zoom and then
there were others in the room, was that, you know,
his wife has been held at an immigration center for
four months now because she passed a bad check and
all these kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I think it does try to humanize things.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But remember this was also supposed to be hearing about
global security threats.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, not really about all the immigration operations, right.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Going, Well, the main topic of a lot of these
hearings often gets pushed to the background for whatever it
is lawmakers want to bring up. And on that note,
there was reporting axios from Mark Pudo's got great sources
inside the administration who said that Department of Homeland Security
Secretary of Christi Noman borders are Tom Homan barely speaking,
(05:49):
and apparently there's a big policy disagreement between the two
where NOME has been pushing for more of those broad
sweeping deportations kind of like what we were just talking about.
We're home in and ICE leaders they wanted to do
more of the targeted immigration enforcement operations against criminals. So
(06:12):
a bit of a disagreement in how you know they
conduct all of this.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You know, So that FEMA meeting was also canceled yesterday.
FEMA comes under Homeland Security and Secretary NOME. Well, the
word is they're going to rename FEMA the National Office
of Emergency Management.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Office of Emergency Management nome A took me a second.
That's Friday, Yeah, okay, that would be quite something. Well yeah, yeah,
all right, let's get to another story you're covering this morning.
We're joined by our national correspondent Rory O'Neil.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You've got a new study on America's workforce shortage. You've
got JP Morgan. They are they are ringing the alarm
bells right now now about something that could be a
national security risk.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, essentially saying our workforce isn't ready for the jobs
that are coming, especially when you look at industries like
you know, we've talked before about how all these AI
data centers are going to be gobbling up all the
energy out there. Well, who's expanding the grid, what electricians,
what linemen are out there?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Apparently we're short about two hundred thousand. Where there are
going to be three point.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Eight million additional manufacturing jobs by twenty thirty three, half
of them may go unfilled because we don't have skilled labor.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's and that's the real challenge in the specialties and
defense contractors saying we can't find anybody, you know, who's
a welder to help build a new aircraft carrier or
a brand new nuclear submarine. So they're struggling in that
regard as well. So JP Morgan's argument is this is
about national security at this point, not just you know,
getting more kids high paying jobs.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, they argued that, you know, this one point five
trillion dollar US investment push into all this, it's not
gonna matter if the industries can't find people do the work.
And it feels like we just don't have a plan.
You know, we need workers for all of these jobs.
Plus we want to bring jobs back for stuff like
building iPhones and cars. We don't have enough people to
(08:16):
do all of that. So right, like what is the
plan and what is the priority? Here kind of feels
like we're at a at a crossroads and we kinda
well got to figure out need.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We're also going to need fifty plans because you know,
if the government, federal government is getting out of education,
then it's got to be on the states then to
put together these programs in order to look maybe it's
because some state in Texas is luring in some new
chip maker and then maybe they should focus on that
next generation where somebody at bath Iron Works and Mainz
(08:50):
is we need more riveters and welders, right, and let
them focus on that there for building ships.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So uh yeah, but it doesn't seem.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That a national strategy is something that's to work with
this administration.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
All right, we're joined by our national correspondent Roy O'Neil
this morning. Rory, thanks so much. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Thanks. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Let's go straight to the hotline now and bring in
our White House correspondent John Decker to recap this week's
top White House storyline. So, John, another busy week for
the president.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Oh absolutely, it was a busy week for the president.
And I think what is dominated this particular week was
foreign news in the sense that the President continues to
try to end the war in Ukraine through his emissaries,
and in addition to that, of course, the seizure of
that oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela. And then
(09:40):
you had domestic news yesterday the Senate failing to move
forward with legislation that would extend those expiring Obamacare subsidies.
So for those individuals that get their insurance through the
Affordable Care Act, their insurance premiums will rise at the
very beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, and the House is going to try to take
up the issue next week, so we'll see how involved
the President gets in that. Meanwhile, he's going to be
attending the Army Navy Game, which is always just an
amazing event.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It is so much tradition associated with it. I was
at the Army Navy Game last year with my wife
a very cold day. They played it at the stadium
where the Commanders play their NFL football games. I've been
to it many times, but tomorrow I'll be there with
President Trump. I'll be part of the pool traveling to
Baltimore for the Army Navy Game, and there's just so
(10:33):
much history and tradition associated with it. It's exciting, you know.
And the president, of course commander in chief, so he'll
be warmly welcomed by the crowd on hand for the
Army Navy game.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What can we expect from the president next week? Is
there anything on deck that we should know about.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
That's a good question. I don't know of any travel
that is planned by the president. As you know, one
of the things the President did this week was he
hit the road. He went to the Poconos in pennsylvani
And the White House says there will be more of
those types of events, a lot more of those types
of events that will take place in twenty twenty six.
But I don't know if there is a specific event
(11:10):
like the one we saw this past week in Pennsylvania
taking place next week, an event in which the President
talks about affordability issues.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
No right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Our White House correspondent John Decker with us this morning. John,
always appreciate the updates. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I look forward to have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Ryan, byebye, all right you as well, And again you
can get more of John Decker's reporting from the White
House check out the White House Briefing Room podcast on
your iHeartRadio app. Let's go straight to the hotline and
bring in Don Mahallick, who's back with us. He's an
ABC News Law enforcement contributor, retired Senior Secret Service agent,
and a US Coast Guard Reserve veteran. Don, thanks so
(11:47):
much for joining us. Want to talk about this incredible
operation off the coast of Venezuela, the US seizing and
oil tanker. What can you tell us about what went down?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
It was incredible, but according to the Department of Justice,
this vessel had been under investigation for violating international law
in relation to transporting contraband to Iran oil to Iran.
So the Department of Justice said that they got a
seizure warrant which they handed to the US Coast Guard,
who are the maritime law enforcement experts, and had them
(12:18):
enforced the seizure warrant. So the Coast Guard, working with
the Navy and some other federal partners, found the ship,
identified the ship, and then seized the ship using its
Tier one Maritime Security Response Team the MSRT team, which
is a team of highly trained Coast Guard personnel that
stemmed out of nine to eleven. They needed a counter
(12:39):
maritime law enforcement capability, so the Coast Guard created the
Maritime Security Response Team in order to in order to
enforce or combat maritime terrorism. So they would aboard the ship,
they swept and cleared it, they enforced the seizure warrant.
They take the ship into custody and it's personnal to custody,
(12:59):
and my guests is the next stop is probably Houston
and then once it's there, they will process this as
a federal seizure, which the Coast Guard has done for decades.
This is the Coast Guard's bread and butter. This is
what they do. So for the Coast Guard, this is
nothing new. I think what's new for the American people
is the fact that the Venezuela issue has created a
(13:23):
lot of concerning questions when the American people and the
fact that this was such a large vessel, was an
oil tanker. Typically the typically these seize your warrants are
you know, personal craft or yachts or even small cargo
vessels or fishing boats a car. An oil tanker is
a larger vessel that is not typical in these situations.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
But if you're violating the law, you're violating the law.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
And the Coast Guard will enforce the law on each
and every vessel because it is the only military branch
in the federal government that has maritime law enforcement authority
not only in US territorial waters but out in the
open sea as well. But the other thing to keep
in mind is any vessel that either isn't flagged, that
doesn't have a flag or was registered someplace, or is
(14:08):
in an act of piracy like off the coast of Somalia,
or is violating international law by smuggling contraband which could
be humans, drugs, or in this case oil. If they
do that, they waive their rights under international law, which
permits the Coast Guard to stop, inspect, and seize any vessel.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
We're joined by ABC News law enforcement contributor and US
Coast Guard Reserve veteran Don Mahllick. What about the operation
itself and the risks to the members of the Coast
Guard who are conducting an operation like this.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So this type of operation is something in the Coast Guard,
especially the MSRT team, trained for routinely, which is you
saw the helicopter insertion of the team members on to
the ship. Anything you do underway on the water is
dangerous because you don't have a lot of room to
move around, and they always have to be cognizant of that.
(15:06):
So it does take a lot of training and a
lot of planning in order to effectively execute an operation
like they did. And intelligence gathering too, which the Coast Guard,
which most people aren't aware of, has a pretty robust
maritime intelligence section, gleaning maritime intelligence from both domestic and
international partners, specifically for ships committing crimes, pirate ships ship
(15:30):
doing piracy, or a contraband drug smelling or whatever you know.
The Coast Guard is part of that maritime intelligence loop
which allows it to find, identify, and stop these vessels
that are violating our laws or international law. This is
the cost the Coast Guards bread and butter, and from
the seventies when we declared the war on drugs, this
(15:51):
is what the Coast Guard has been doing that in
the Caribbean since, So for them, this is nothing new.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Retired Senior Secret Service agent, US Coast Guard Reserve veteran
and an ABC News Law enforcement contributor, Don Mahallick with us.
Don really appreciate your time and insight. Thanks so much.
Thanks for having me, Ryan Well time magazine picked the
architects of AI, including Elon Musk and Sam Altman, who
runs Open Ai, as its Person of the Year, saying
(16:19):
this is the moment when AI's full force and influence
became impossible to ignore. Editor Sam Jacobs rights the twenty
twenty five was the year AI's potential roared, interview reshaping
how people work, create and make decisions. And they're one
hundred percent right on all of that. I don't like
(16:39):
how they did the cover though, and the whole architects
of AI things. So the cover shows an AI themed
scaffolding build and a recreation the nineteen thirty two lunch
atop a skyscraper photo with tech leaders included. It really
should have just been like an AI image, I think,
or something. It should have just been about the AI
(17:02):
aspect of what we've seen over the course of the
past year, not so much about like all the people
behind it in my opinion, But there's no doubt, I mean,
just in what I do every single day, the amount
that I use AI completely different from a year ago.
An Apple just named chatchy BT the most downloaded free
iPhone app of twenty twenty five, ahead of things like
(17:24):
Google TikTok, WhatsApp, So that gives you a sense as
to how much people are flocking to these different platforms,
these different AI options to try to see what they
can do for them.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
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