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December 5, 2025 20 mins
“Is it arrogant to make your own documentary, or is it just the new way to tell your story?” 🤔 That’s the question that kicks off this electrifying episode of The JB and Sandy Show, where hosts JB and Sandy dive deep into the wild world of entertainment, streaming trends, and redemption stories. This week, special guest Steven Presley from Thunder Pop TV joins the crew for a Friday packed with hot takes and hilarious banter. The conversation launches with the viral drama between Neil Patrick Harris and Abby Lee Miller, sparking a debate on photo etiquette: “What’s worse—being over-airbrushed or left off the airbrush list?” The hosts don’t hold back, with JB quipping, “It looked like somebody was holding up a plastic face of Neil Patrick Harris!” 😂 The episode then explores the booming trend of self-made documentaries, from Eddie Murphy’s intimate self-portrait to the upcoming Susan Powter story. JB wonders aloud, “Is your hesitation with it, JB, the arrogance of making your own documentary—the self-importance that you need to make it instead of being honored by someone wanting to make a documentary about you?” Tricia jumps in, sharing her love for the Eddie Murphy doc: “It’s the first time I feel like the curtain has been pulled back on Eddie Murphy… you see his kids and him telling these crazy stories.” 

🌟 Listeners get the inside scoop on the new Avatar movie, with Steven Presley asking, “Is this a flop or a hit?” The hosts debate whether the franchise is unstoppable or if audiences are finally feeling Avatar fatigue. Plus, the team reacts to Netflix quietly removing its phone-to-TV casting feature, sparking a lively discussion about streaming wars, subscription drama, and the cathartic joy of canceling services. “Just cancel them all and see what they cry about!” Sandy jokes. The episode wraps with a heartwarming look at a new Austin jail program pairing incarcerated veterans with shelter dogs, giving them a chance to learn animal training and build a future. JB and Sandy reflect on the power of second chances, sharing stories of inmates finding hope through quilting and painting: “Some of these guys were murderers… and it was incredible, them talking about how this helped calm their brains and helped them come outside of themselves to do something for someone else.” 🐶❤️

 Memorable Quotes:
  • “It looked like a weird kind of elf from a Disney Pixar movie.” – On Neil Patrick Harris’s airbrushed photo
  • “Is it arrogant to make your own documentary?” – JB
  • “She lost all her money. She’s a door dasher. She lives in a cheap apartment somewhere, barely surviving, but they’re getting ready to do a documentary on her.” – On Susan Powter
  • “Just cancel every subscription. You’ll get all the attention in the world.” – Sandy
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Streaming on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
This is the JB and Sandy Show on Austin's eighty
station one O three point one.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
You guys go follow Steven on social media just search
at the thunder Pop TV puts out a lot of
great content, a lot of great videos and stuff, so
make sure you go do that. He joins us every
Friday to talk about entertainment stuff and Neil Patrick Harris
doogie howser. Right, That's where I'll always be remembered as. Yeah,
oh yeah, he's in a big fight with who.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Her name is Abby Lee Miller and if you don't
know that name, she's known from reality TV Dance Moms Show, where.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Really nasty people get a lot of attention.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Oh really, our daughter watch us at Sandy.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
Yes, okay, that's like a stage mom show, like their
show into it Yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (00:52):
Think, okay, Yeah, it's like a cheer.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
She's a dance mom or a dance instructor, and she's
horrible to the horrible to the parents, and she got
her own show and then years later ended up going
to jail for like tax evasion or something.

Speaker 8 (01:06):
What are they beefing about?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Well, apparently at some point I'm sure to NPH. Neil
Patrick Harris's trying to avoid it, but somehow I ended
up having to take a photo with Abby Lee Miller
out in public and she posts the picture later. But
really airbrushed, Neil Patrick Harris really heavy, and he.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Was not happy about it. That's rude.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
He looked like a weird kind of elf from a
Disney Pixar movie. He was not happy. But it raises
the question because a lot of people in the comments
then later said, well, I'm more offended when somebody takes
a picture and they airbrush themselves but don't do anything
with my face, and I end up looking comparably, you know,

(01:49):
worse than them.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
So that's the question.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
What is more in the world of photo and reposting etiquette,
what is worse to be over airbrushed or left off
the airbrush list?

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Over airbrush is bad, that's embarrassing. That's why he addressed
it looked like you ever go to a birthday party
where they print out the face and put it on
a popsicle stick of it of the birthday person.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's what it looked like. It looked plastic.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
It looked like somebody was holding up a plastic face
of Neil Patrick Harris.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was bad, not good, not good. Jimmy, you had
a question for Steven about documentaries.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I do. I do.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
It's so weird, it's funny. We've talked about counting crows
like three times already the show.

Speaker 8 (02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Uh, that's so, that's very bizarre.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
Yeah, but I saw an ad for a new documentary
about it, and I and my wife and I just
over the past weekend watched the Eddie Murphy documentary, which
these appeared to be self made. Is that like, is
that like a trend now? Like everyone's making their own
documentary and telling their own story. It used to be

(02:59):
someone else had to tell your story. You couldn't do that,
But it seems like everyone's doing that. Am I crazy?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh you're not. I mean, there is definitely a trend here.

Speaker 8 (03:06):
I would.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I'm a little curious who started it, Like, who was
the first one that said, Hey, get me a camera crew,
let's make a documentary about my mus myself?

Speaker 8 (03:14):
Right, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I mean, I remember the stallon in Schwarzenegger Ones came
out on Netflix maybe three or four years back, and
then since then we've seen, like you said, there's been
a trend, and we've seen quite a few others. I
think a couple of things happened here. One is streaming
needs content, and these documentaries fill time and people watch them.
They're they're in some of these stories pretty interesting. But

(03:37):
I think we're gonna get We're not too far away,
maybe a year out from really deep cuts where you're
gonna have people like Zach Efron saying, hey, give me
a camera crew over here, it's time for my documentary.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Yeah, Charlie Sheen. One's another good example that was self made.
That one was way more interesting. That was way more,
I mean than interesting than.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Most interesting thing about the stallone one that is that
the entire thing was shot on an iPhone. That's it's
kind of crazy about that during COVID, his buddy just
shot it with an iPhone.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Is it weird that these are coming up because these
people are still alive? Is that what makes it weird?
Because a couple of weekends ago, I watched the one
about John Candy called I Like Me. It was pretty good,
but I didn't think that was this weird.

Speaker 7 (04:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
I think it's because they're still alive and they're making
documentaries about.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Themselves, like the biopics that come out when they're still alive.
We talked about this with the Springsteen one. I'm like,
the story is not over. He can end up in prison.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Right, Yeah?

Speaker 8 (04:39):
Your is your hesitation with it? JB.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Is the arrogance of making your own documentary. That's the
self importance that you need to make instead of being
honored by someone wanting to make a documentary an option.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
That's a that's a good question. It does seem arrogant.
I don't know, there's something really weird about it. I
didn't understand and the point of the Eddie Murphy one.
I enjoyed it because I like him, but it's like,
why did he feel like he had to do that?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You watch Natricia, What did you think?

Speaker 7 (05:09):
I watched it. I loved it.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
It wasn't the greatest documentary I've ever seen, but it's
the first time I feel like the curtain has been
pulled back on Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
He's kind of such a private person.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
You don't really know that much stuff about him, and
then here they are taking you into his house and
you see his kids and him telling these crazy stories.

Speaker 8 (05:29):
What's the point, right? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (05:31):
But I think the point is interest.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
Yeah, yeah, big name.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Like for instance, you know member Susan Powder that stopped
the Insanity Chick. Yeah, okay, So they're getting ready to
do she lost allar money. She's a door dasher. She
lives in a cheap apartment somewhere, barely surviving. But they're
getting ready to do a documentary on her, and Jamie
Lee Curtis is doing it simply out of interest in

(05:57):
what a great story this is. And at first Susan
Powder was no, I don't want to do it, but
now she is going to do it.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
Do you think that's weird?

Speaker 8 (06:04):
I think there's big interest there.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
What she was one of the biggest people in fitness
in the world, I know, then disappeared, lost dollar money.

Speaker 7 (06:12):
It's three hundred million dollars.

Speaker 9 (06:13):
Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah yeah. And she'll be back
because of this, Yes, she'll be back. So Stephen Presley
is with us. We'll take a break when we come back.
Steven's got some thoughts on the new Avatar movie. Also
talk about something that Netflix did on the down low
and people are not happy about. Stay with us more

(06:35):
with Stephen Presley from at thunder Pop TV coming up,
Austin dot com.

Speaker 8 (06:45):
One three point one, Austin's eighties station. It's the JD
and Sandy Show.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Stephen Presley with us as he is every single Friday,
talking entertainment. Follow him on social media at thunder Pop TV.
We're gonna tell you what Netflix did the download that
kind of made everybody mad. But before we get to that,
let's talk about Avatar. Yes, there is another avatar. You're
gonna get a lot of avatars when your first avatar
makes a billion dollars. Yeah, right, this one is Fire

(07:13):
and Ash. Is it a flopp or is it a hit?

Speaker 8 (07:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
That's the weird thing about this. We you know, people
that project these things. They found this one of the
hardest movies in a while to be able to say, hey,
is this a flop or a hit? The biggest question
is is this like Jurassic Park where it's teflon. You
can just keep coming out with avatar movies no matter
when they come out, and they're going to hit no
matter what. You just show us the blue people and

(07:38):
we're there, We're in the theater. Or is it actually saturation?
Are we tired of Avatar at this point? And by
the way, James Cameron just went on Good Morning America
yesterday and he said, you know, I could make one
hundred more of these. I had that many ideas for
Avatars in my head. But is this movie going to
hit or is it going to flop? You know, there's
movies that are really easy to project, like Minecraft. I

(08:00):
saw that as a hit several days beforehand. The way
the kids were all hyped up about that movie. I
knew that movie was going to be huge, and it
ended up being like, this is the number one movie
of the year or the number two movie of the year.
But is this movie a hit or a flop? Big question? Mark,
don't ask me.

Speaker 8 (08:16):
I can see that. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
I ever saw the first one. I didn't see the
first one either. I only saw the first one, and
then I was like, eh.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Okay, yeah, so are are we really missing something not
having seen Avatar?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I mean, it's visually stunning, It isn't interesting the first one.
I would say the first one definitely if you could
have seen it on a big screen, it's a great experience.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
But it is one of those movies I saw.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Then the second one came out, also pretty good, but
it kind of recycles some of the themes from the first movie.
So that's why I do question, which a lot of
sequels do. So that's why I question, you know, one
hundred more really, But James Cameron also said if this
movie flops, then he's probably done with Avatar movies and
then that's it.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
But I don't know the Avatar is either.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
One of the reasons why it's hard to project is
because they don't have a loud fan base. There's definitely
people that are into Avatar, but they're not like loud
on the Internet, like Star Wars fans.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
It's like the Long John Silvers people.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
They're there because the stories are still open, but none
of us.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
Know who they are.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Exactly a selfie at Long John Silvers.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm embarrassed to be there, but I'm there.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, we'll see what happens. The box office returns will
let us know whether or not it's a hit or not.
Let's talk about what Netflix took away from people.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, and some people, I mean some people were really
obsessed with this feature. I think for other people, I
never even I don't even think I've ever used it.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
But it's a they had.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Netflix quietly removed the phone to TV casting feature that
they had, which you know, if you had the app
on your phone, you could dial up your Netflix app
and then be able to sign cast it to your television.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Used to do that a lot. Yeah, some people loved it.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah, I mean I feel like it's one of the
cool things that you can do with that. Wonder why
they would take that away.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
I mean a lot of people are mad because they're saying, hey,
you're going to keep raising our subscriptions, but you're also
taking away our bennies.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
So, m I don't know it was it cost them anything.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I think it's more control over subscriptions.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
They're worried more and more about people sharing, and I
don't know, how would you share your subscription this way?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Wasn't it when?

Speaker 6 (10:32):
But when't it back in the day that the CEO
of Netflix was saying share it, we don't care?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah yeah, right, yeah, Okay, that's what I thought. It
used to be a thing.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
They're trying to reel that in for years. I don't
know if they've made any any progress at all on it.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
You want to know who is not into letting you
share or is very protective of their subscription?

Speaker 7 (10:52):
Is HBO Max oh I know, Oh yeah, you can't.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
They will not let you have more than two people
on your account at anytime. So between Sandy and Landry
and I were constantly off.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Somebody needs to get off swich and watch my show.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Don't we have those device wars?

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah, my daughter lives on her own and it's like, oh,
I can't get into my own accounts.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I know.

Speaker 8 (11:16):
It's like, damn it, you want to do that. I
paid for this thing, right, you want to do that.
You want to play that card, but that never goes
over very well.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Hey, if your family's ever ignoring you, just cancel every subscription.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
You'll get all the attention in the world.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Dude, I saw, really, I wish I could take credit
for this. A really funny meme that was along the
same lines of that, And of course I don't have
it right in front of me, but it said my
girlfriend is using my Netflix. My ex girlfriend is using
my Netflix password and watching season five of Stranger Things.

(11:50):
I can't wait till she gets to episode number three.
And I changed the.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Pastor so mean, but I did. I'll clean house just
to see what everyone's using. Like, I don't know what
everyone's using. Subscription wise, are we still using Paramount? Is
anyone watching anything on Apple TV?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Who's you?

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Of course Netflix is sort of a standard. Yeah, it's
just like, just cancel them all and just see what
they cry about.

Speaker 8 (12:19):
You've got an offer when you tried to cancel HBO or.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Paramount Paramount YEP.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
I was out on Paramount Plus. I canceled our subscription
a couple of months ago.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Was supposed to end on December eighteenth, and we got
a little stressed about it because Landman's new season is
out and it's not going to be finished by December eighteenth.
But I went into Paramount Plus account just to make
sure it was canceled, and they hit me with a
we'll give it to you for half off for the
next year. Yeah, sixty bucks. And I was like, God,

(12:49):
dang it, Paramount Plus okay, fine, I was in. I
was like, there's something very cathartic about cleaning out your
streaming services, right, yes.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeahs back here.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
If you have the discipline to set the reminders, you
can get usually get a month free from most of them.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, cancel it and re sign up. Yeah, don't forget
everybody that subscribed to ESP and the app. When we
didn't have it on YouTube. Oh yeah, make sure you
cancel that. It's like thirty bucks a month. Thank you
for the reminder. We had to cancel it to get
that Longhorn game.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Last thing, Stephen, Just because I think everyone wants to
know why fifty cent hates Ditty so much.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah, I mean he has been obsessed with him. I
mean eminem from ten years ago, obsessed with Mariah Carey
wants to know why fifty cent is so obsessed with
P Diddy in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
But he is.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
He's out promoting a documentary that's on speaking of documentaries
that's on Netflix right now that he produced about P
Diddy that he's been talking about for quite a while,
and he has the biggest grint on his face of
pride when promoting this documentary.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Kind of a got you moment for Diddy.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, he's he's had beef with him for a long time,
and he's never associated with him and never wanted to.
And it's like Diddy, excuse me, Like fifty Cent knew
what Diddy was up to, Oh yeah before everybody else did.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:07):
Diddy's camp has responded.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
I think Steven Wright by saying if Netflix puts this
out there, suing him, yeah, there's a season to sist.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, I didn't know that was the one fifty cent
put out. I saw it on Netflix. I might actually
watch it now. I haven't watched anything.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
There's more than when it's too gross. I feel like
you need to take a shower anything with Diddy.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
Yeah, it's very gross.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Eminem hated Diddy too, right, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
There was something there too. I mean, fifty Cent was
from the East Coast to New York hip hop artist
like like like Diddy, So I'm sure they hell there
was you know, people, they had mutual people, they knew.
He probably heard a lot of stories about Diddy. Knew
a lot of stuff about Diddy.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
Yeah, Diddy's bad guy, not a good guy, not.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
A good guy, not a good guy that Stephen Presley
follow him on social At thunder Pop TV, we've kind
of shuffled things around this morning on the show, and
coming up next, Versus has got the story.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
We love what you have.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
All right, We're going to talk about a new program
coming to the Austin Jail, the Austin Travis County Jail,
and it involves dogs.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
And I think that this is such a cool program.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
All right, stay with us. Story We Love is next
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Speaker 1 (15:15):
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Speaker 2 (15:17):
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Speaker 3 (15:27):
All right, thanks for being with us today. For just
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(15:49):
We Love.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
The Austin City Council has a meeting coming up next
week on December eleventh, and one of the items on
the agenda is to provide an animal training program from
the military veterans incarcerated in the Travis State Jail. Yeah,
I know, I had to look that one up. I
had never heard of that one before. Basically, it creates

(16:11):
an in house foster program for dogs currently in the
Austin Animal Shelters Services and gives them to veterans who
are serving time. These veterans that are taught how to
train these animals, so then those dogs are more adoptable
to find their forever homes. And then when the veterans
are released from jail, they have a skill set that

(16:31):
could actually earn them money, help them to make a living.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
And I've seen programs like this.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
I think there's a whole HBO documentary about inmates training
animals from puppy some of them training them for I Dogs.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
There was this TV show pit Bulls and Paroles. Yeah,
I've heard about la great show, so great show.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree here and think
if I'm in prison, that sounds like more punishment training
a dog.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Sandy, I don't even do it with my own dog.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want to do that, and
I'm a free man. I don't want to train a dog.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
These men are in jail, they don't get to a
lot of times, don't get have family coming to see them.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
They're very isolated.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
And if they are, they have to pass a background
check and they have to be in good standing with
their behavior. But then they're giving this sweet animal that
they get to connect with, they get to teach, they
learn from the animal as well.

Speaker 7 (17:31):
Oh god, you're such a scrooge.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm not a scrooge. I just I don't know why
anyone want to train a dog. It's just it's not fun.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
There was a there was a prison in Arizona. I
think it's that tough Maricopa judge that you always hear about, Yeah,
the sheriff. But they they would teach restoring cars. They
would give them. They would give these prisoners a skills,
like some guys would learn to be of upholsters. Some

(18:03):
guys learned to paint. And then when they get out
of prison, they yeah, they they have a skill set.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
They can go to work.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Ceey, do you remember that documentary You and I both
watched it. I recommended it to you about these inmates
in a prison, I don't remember where, And they were
part of a quilting club. Oh yeah, And they would
make handmade quilts for kids in foster care, so that
if their children had to leave one foster home and
go to another, they at least had these quilts that

(18:29):
belonged to them and they were tailored to them.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Some of these guys were murderers.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, and it was incredible like that, them talking about
how this helped calm their brains and helped come outside
of themselves to do something for someone else. It's the
same idea with the training the dogs.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Get them in painting classes. You could buy paintings from
serial killers.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
They did.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
They sold John Wayne Gacy's that'd be got cool. Yeah,
John Wayne Gacy. They auctioned a bunch of his off
before they executed it. See the way just up like
a clown. Oh, terrifying, terrifying guy.

Speaker 8 (19:04):
Hey, getting the job.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I mean I know someone that spent twelve years in prison,
like the Big House prison, and he said, the hardest,
scariest thing when you get out is getting a job. Yeah,
he was kind of lucky and that there was a
guy that took a chance on him and understands his
background and gave him a job. But it's it's tough.
It's really really tough. I don't know that firsthand. I'm

(19:26):
just having talked to him about it. So I guess
if they could, what are they gonna do when they
get out trained dogs?

Speaker 7 (19:31):
They could, they absolutely could.

Speaker 8 (19:33):
Yeah. So and that's justin Texas.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, it's it's.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Going before the Austin City Council next week for something.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
It's a pilot program.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
I'll find a reason not to seven.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Month pilot program that, if successful, would have a two
year extension option.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
So sorry, we can't do it. We spent all our
money on a logo. No logo.

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