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August 5, 2025 15 mins
“Is your wife setting up playdates for you? If so… it might be time to reclaim your manhood.” In this bold and hilarious episode of The JB and Sandy Show, the crew dives into the trending term “man-keeping”—a phenomenon where women take on the emotional and social labor for the men in their lives. From organizing their friendships to coaching them through feelings, Tricia, JB, and Sandy unpack why this dynamic is exhausting for women and unattractive to boot. Sandy shares his “bottle it up and blow once a year” emotional strategy, while JB reflects on the importance of guy time and self-sufficiency. The conversation turns to masculinity, DIY skills, and why YouTube tutorials and Home Depot wisdom are essential tools for modern men. Then, the show shifts gears to Austin’s evolving urban landscape, including permanent barriers on 6th Street and “living streets” designed for pedestrians. The crew debates aesthetics, safety, and the impact on local businesses. Finally, it’s all about football: Texas is ranked #1 in the preseason poll, and the season opener against Ohio State is already stirring nerves. Sandy offers unconventional self-defense tips for fans traveling to Columbus—including chicken wings as a distraction tactic.

Key Moments:
  • 🧠 What is “man-keeping” and why women are over it
  • 🛠️ Masculinity, emotional independence, and DIY culture
  • 🚧 Austin’s 6th Street gets permanent barriers for pedestrian safety
  • 🚶‍♂️ “Living streets” and the fight over pedestrian-only zones
  • 🏈 Texas Longhorns ranked #1—why that’s both exciting and risky
  • 🍗 Chicken wings as crowd control in Columbus
  • 🎙️ Craig Way to join the show for game coverage
Memorable Quotes:
“There’s nothing that’ll kill the launch sequence faster than feeling like you’re the mother to your husband.” – Tricia
“Throw some wings in a different direction and they’ll go chase them.” – JB, on defending yourself in Columbus

👤 Guest Summary: No external guest this episode, but Craig Way is teased as an upcoming guest for Texas football coverage. Craig is the legendary voice of Longhorn sports and a fan favorite for play-by-play commentary.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the JB and Sandy Show podcast. You can
listen live every morning on one oh three point one
in Austin or stream the show on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Have you guys ever heard of the term of man keeping?
Man now, No, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's a term that was first coined by a Stanford
researcher last year in twenty twenty four. And here's what
it refers. To stick with me, I'm just reading this,
all right, The term man keeping refers to the unreciprocated
emotional and social labor that women often perform to support

(00:38):
their emotional wellbeing and social connections of men in their lives. Basically,
what they're saying is women are tired of being the
emotional support for the guys in their life. It says,
they often become the primary source of emotional support, listening
to and helping men process their feelings or challenges. All right,

(01:03):
there's more to this. Let me just give me a
couple more key aspects of what's called man keeping. They say,
building social networks. Women may organize social activities, encourage men
to maintain friendships, or facilitate connections such as planning gatherings
or suggesting meetups with friends, like women are pushing the

(01:25):
dudes out of the house to go be with the
felas and they're tired of it. Finally, teaching social skills,
women sometimes guide men and developing interpersonal skills like how
to engage in meaningful conversations or maintain relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's such a turn off. Oh my god, that's so unattractive.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
That was my immediate thought. I was like, I'm Aaron.
My wife might leave me over time if I was
real needy like that. Yes, right, yeah, I mean it's
I don't I guess I do it the traditional way.
It's pulling teeth to figure out what's going on in
my head or my feelings. Right, you have to beg
for it, and I usually won't. Still won't comply. Right

(02:16):
to be a whiner, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Yeah, tell them, tell them what your theory is, sandy
about feelings and.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Can keep on the inside, bottle of up, keep it,
keep tell it, keep on the inside, and then maybe
once maybe twice a year, just blow a gasket or
to get it all out there and then move on
and start bodeling up again.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
It's real, healthy, Really, time in life is a man
where you could no one can know what you're thinking
or feeling, and they didn't know who you were going
to vote for, and life was wonderful.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
It was so then I'll give you a quick example
of what they how they describe an example of what
man keeping is.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
A woman might be considered man keeping if she consistently
plans her partners social events or minds him to call
friends or spend significant time supporting him through emotional struggles,
while he does not reciprocate by supporting her emotional or
social needs.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Come on, guys.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Ah all I feel like somebody that immediately puts the
wife into the mother category.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yes, right, he is.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Trying to teach your husband, probably the exact same things
she might be teaching her twelve year old son how
to be social and make friends and get out there
and do things. And I'm going to let you know
there is nothing that will kill the launch sequence faster
than feeling like you're the mother to your husband.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right or heaven to take care of his emotional struggles.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
Yeah, I mean, you should be able to talk to
your your spouse if you're struggling with something.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
But if it's like a constant ongoing.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
We be No, that's that's for your neighborhood bartender to listen.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
All right, you're right, I mean, are they arranged playdates
for these guys at the park?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know it's like the women are talking.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Okay, I'll bring him at eight third, drop them off,
drop him off, just like you did with your kids arranging.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That is fine.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
My wife would love it if I was more social
with dudes, like she she's always kind of pushing, like
you're saying, because I just don't. I just don't hang
out and I just don't do a lot of dudish things.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Right, Sandy.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
Last year you were talking about, man, I don't hang
out with my guy friends enough, like cause I hang
out with my girlfriends a lot, or at least talk
to them a lot, and they.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Say, they say, you need it as a guy a
couple of times a week.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Yeah, and especially getting older too. It's one of the
ways to kind of say, you know, sharp and quick,
and you talked about it for a couple of years,
like I really need to check in with so and
so and do this, and instead of I didn't jump
into the well, hey, let me give me his phone number.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I'm gonna call him and see if he's available, and
I'm going to set it up for you. I I'll
call him. Didn't call him.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
I didn't do that, but I did, right, And you
did exactly all that might help.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
You were a big boy, and you did it all
without my health.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I don't need any man keeping. That's show.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
That's my point, right.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I just I just worry about this younger generation.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I just really, I know I joke about it a
lot and talk about the wiscification of America, but man,
I worry about it. Think it's a real thing. And
you know the argument is someone raised them.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Right for a long time, it's not it's not been
cool to be masculine, right, terrible.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, toxic that was the word.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Right, Yeah, toxic masculinity.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's until you need something done. You know
what I mean that it's a masculine job. You know
what I mean, like you need you need dudes to
do certain things. And I think certain things.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
I kept saying, guys need to know how to fix
something other than just a computer, Like you got to
be able to fixpenses, You got to be able to
build things like it's I don't know, it's it's very
it's I as a chick, find it very attractive when
guys are masculine in certain situations. That doesn't mean that

(06:13):
that guys don't kind of get out of hand in
other situations and it can be bad, but just in general,
just be a dude.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
If you're a dude, well, I don't think young guys
will even try to do things because they've never done
it before. Yeah, and am I go on YouTube? Someone
has showed you how to do this. You're right for
just about everything.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
In the world. Yeah, you can. You can find a
tutorial on how to do it. Right, they change an
air filter in your car, right, less, everybody has done it.
You're right, and it might.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Not be it slickest, greatest video, but it'll get the
job done.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, they'll tell you how to do stuff.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
So or go to home depot and ask any man
working at home depot. All the older retirees that work there,
who've probably built every house that they've lived in, know
how to build everything.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Ask those guys. They'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
They'll give you every detail too, every detail. So again,
that term is man keeping and it's really sad that
it's a real thing. Guys, if your wife is setting
up playdates for you, you need to stand up and
be a man, good lord.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Order in a bouncy house for the weekend.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
This is the JB and Sandy Show on Austin's eighties
station one oh three point one text us seven three
seven three zero one ninety six hundred.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
You know, I don't really think a lot of our
listeners are big Sixth Street party people.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think they probably were, but maybe not anymore. But
in case you are, it's still interesting to know that
the city is finally signed off on something. They'll go
bring big changes to Sixth Street. They're going to install
permanent barriers between the sidewalk and Sixth Street. Okay, so
they'll be concrete barriers now, they're going to be They're

(08:00):
going to be installed next week, by the way, and
there's some plastic barriers that are there now. It's almost
like a cheap little stanchion, you know, like fence that
line Sixth Street. They're initially going to be gray, but
they are going to dress them up a little bit.
They're gonna you know, they're gonna be that gray, ugly concrete,

(08:21):
but after installation, the Downtown Austin Alliance plans a barricade
beautification project to enhance the visual experience anesthetics of the
concrete barriers through graphic design and painting, so at least
they're not just gonna.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Be ugly old gray barriers right up front. This is
all I do.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
You guys remember the guy that went drove down Bourbon
Street running people over. This is probably a response to that.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, Like I remember, like on the big holidays they would,
like Halloween especially, they kind of close off to Middle
Street and try to keep things flowing. I guess that's
what they're trying to do. They're trying to keep people
on the sidewalks moving in the same direction. Yeah, and
not not spilling out into the street, because that's when
when drunk people are walking towards each other.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Just bad things.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yeah, yeah, so bad.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
So anyway, that's going to start on Sixth Street. Probably
a necessary thing, just for safety reasons, you know.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Like you know, on that note, have you seen some
of the neighborhoods, Like there's some streets in my neighborhood
where they call it living streets and they close it
off to through traffic.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yes, I was on one of those streets. Yeah, like
there is fift in Guadalupe that area.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I think. Yeah, it's an interesting idea.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
They're trying to encourage certain streets to have more pedestrians
and kids on tricycles and little you know, people going
on walks and stuff like that. But they they label
it with like construction cones and orange barrels, and yeah,
it looks junkie. Like I love the idea of like, okay,

(09:57):
this streets for people to walk and talk and hang
out and all that stuff, but all the ugly construction
stuff to market looks awful.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
They're always shut down for like pedestrians or sometimes they
shut it down and don't let.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
It run regards them. Just go down the street they
want to go down. I don't think people observe it
and go, oh, don't count down down that street. That's fledestrians.
They're taking whatever street they normally would. Yeah, right, I
just wish they could do it away. That's a little prettier.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I wish they block. Isn't there talks of part of
Congress Avenue blocking all of that off from like yeah
sixth all the way to the Capitol. It'd be like
a pedestrian and bike area only no cars.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Yeah, like a promenade and people can walk and hang
out and visit the shops and the streets and restaurants
and stuff right there.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Anytime they've brought up closing downtown streets to just pedestrians
and bikes that the business owners fight back and get
bad for them.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
They they believe it to be though.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
They're like, oh, we won't people won't be able to
park in front of my store and come in. It's
like you're probably going to get a lot more foot
traffic though, yeah, yeah, right. It always kind of gets
shot down by the business owners like why not why
my street? Why not the one next over?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
You know?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
So, yeah, it's.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Almost impossible to find a place to park on Congress
just anyway.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Can you even still park on Congress?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah? You just got it.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Back in and it's two bucks an hour and they
are ticketing like crazy.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
Yeah, down there by the Capitol they're still parking places.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
There's some yeah, and it's it's a fifty dollars ticket too,
but really, I yeah, I hopped out and went over
to Joe's Coffee and just forgot I just forgot and
it was a fifty dollars ticket.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Jeez, and it goes up from there if you pay
it late. Changing, I'm go ahead, trust I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
No, I was going to say, and they it jumps
a lot if you pay it late. It's not like
a ten dollars late feet it's like, yeah, half the
half the price of the ticket seventy five.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, just changing subjects a little bit. It's exciting to see.
I think, JB, you're going to be disappointed or not
like the pressure. But the Loghorns with the number one
team and the preseason college football polls.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I like us being an underdog.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah wait, why tell me why?

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Like I feel like you'd be like chess puffed up.
We're ranked number one.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Well, and this is a weird season too, because the
season opener is Ohio State, which is.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Number two, who beat us last year?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Right, Yeah, they're a national chance. Yeah beat us?

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Man, you just you want to be an underdog? Yeah?
And the game's there.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
It's that's why they always normally try to schedule a
more of a cush game early to come in and
work out some kinks.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
There's just too much on the line for game one Wow. True.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
The good thing is is that nowadays, with the way
that the playoffs are set up, you can lose a
game early and still get in a conference right exactly,
So Texas is number one, Ohio state number two. That
game August thirtieth. As JB said in Columbus, if you're
making the trip to Columbus for the game, I would
make a recommendation that between now and August thirtieth you

(13:17):
take some jiu jitsu classes or some form of self
defense class.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Just work on sprinting because you can out run those
or wear a.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Spit shield, right, Sandy, maybe get a spit shield to
wear because they love to spit in Columbus.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Is a night game.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Also, it's eleven am, which is good. That helps because
those hillbillies won't be all liquored up. Yeah, but they'll
be close.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
They're gonna have to get up extra early to cut
off their jeans.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
For gang day and their sleeves on their shirts game day.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
George, And I'm only speaking from experience. And you went
to a game there, I went to one. There was
a night game here in Austin. I've never seen so
many fights in my life.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, and I was I was in Columbus for that
game back in six man, and it's rough. I'm telling
you be ready to be ready to defend yourself at
all costs.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
I'm telling you put you another another self defense mechan
means you can do is bring a bucket of chicken
wings and just throw it. Throw some wings in a
different direction and they'll go chase.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Them, and then you run the other way.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
If they come at you aggressively, those house just starts
throwing chicken wings off into the woods.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
They'll go after that. You know.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
The one thing about Texas be a number one though, JB. Tricia,
is that you know, the number one team in the
country is always going to get the best effort whoever
their opponent is. But Texas always gets whoever they're playing's
best effort.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's a marquee game. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
When you've got the you know, burnt orange and white
on and the longhorn on your helmet, They're coming after
you no matter who it is. So it should be fun.
Can't wait to see arch Monk Manning play and they're
gonna be ready. It's gonna be fun. Football season can't
get here fast enough. A reminder you can listen to
all the games here on Austin's eighty station Win All
three point one and streaming on the iHeartRadio app Craig Way,

(15:31):
the Great Craigway. We'll have the play by play and
we're going to try our best and we'll be able
to believe to get Craig on before kickoff of that game,
of that first game, or after that game.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
And he's always fun to visit with.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So well, that's it. Do so solid and copy and
paste the link of this episode and send it to
a friend of two. Thanks for listening.
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