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August 16, 2025 18 mins
Can a Pez dispenser teach you about quitting smoking? Can AI learn to love us before it wipes us out? And is paper really your best bet in rock-paper-scissors? In this jam-packed episode of The Sandy Show, Sandy and Tricia dive into everything from pop culture obsessions to existential tech fears—with plenty of laughs and unexpected insights along the way. From Taylor Swift’s record-breaking podcast appearance and the orange craze it sparked across global brands, to the Godfather of AI warning humanity about its own creation, this episode is a rollercoaster of entertainment, curiosity, and caution. Plus, Tricia reveals the secret to winning rock-paper-scissors, and Sandy opens up about his decade-long journey of sobriety. 

Guest Spotlight: While this episode doesn’t feature a formal guest, it highlights the voices of Sandy and Tricia—two seasoned radio personalities whose chemistry, wit, and honesty make every topic feel personal and engaging. Key Moments:
  • 🎤 Taylor Swift’s viral interview on the Kelsey Brothers’ podcast and the mysterious orange Easter egg.
  • 🧠 AI expert Geoffrey Hinton warns of a future where machines outsmart and potentially destroy humanity.
  • ✂️ Rock-paper-scissors decoded: why paper might be your winning move.
  • 🍬 The surprising origin of Pez dispensers (spoiler: it’s not candy).
  • 🍻 America’s drinking habits hit a historic low—and Sandy shares his powerful story of sobriety.
  • 🏈 Football season is almost here, and Tricia is ready for the shift into fall.
Memorable Quote: “You could go your entire life without having a sip of alcohol—and you wouldn’t miss a thing.”

Call to Action: If you love pop culture, real talk, and a little bit of weird science, this episode is for you. Subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend who needs a laugh, a life tip, or a reminder that paper beats rock. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok @TheSandyShowATX and stream every episode on the iHeartRadio app.  
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Birthdays today. Ben affleckx fifty three. The name Anthony Anderson
ring a bell. He is fifty five. He is better known. No,
I thought it was Dray Johnson. I thought it was
doctor Dray.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I mean, yeah, Drey Johnson. That's from a TV show hosts. Yeah,
and he hosts a game show.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
And here is a flashback name Tom Coleikio, Tom.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Cleikia, the chef. I used to have a huge crush
on him, the beautiful ball judge on Top Chef. We
went to one of his restaurants in the meatpacking district
in New York. Yes, and it was very good if
I remember so. Hey, if it's your birthday, Happy birthday.
You're lucky. It falls on a Friday, which is always nice.
You can go out and get just rip rawing bronk
on your birthday and then sleep in on sleep it

(00:45):
off on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
First thing that made you laugh today, trash.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Don't ask me what I want to do. It's eat.
It's always eat, not always. It's not a mystery.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Our daughter and I were going to dinner last night.
Offered to bring you something home.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
You said no, because you went to dinner at like
a o'clock at night it already showered, was in my pajamas,
had brushed my teeth. We ate because you watching Law
and Order. I'm not going to get out of bed,
not even for Tomali's that late.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well, we we went out to eat because you didn't
provide any dinner for your family.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I did. I had a list of like five things
in the refrigerator that our child could have eaten. She
chried all this stuff to make that salami salad that
we love.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
How to make it?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, make it lesson to that.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's easy. She helped me make it. We had frozen dinners,
We had leftover chicken from the night before, and we
had cereal, which is what I had.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, okay, I think she got me there, I got you.
You're starting to catch up at what else she got?
What you got in the story?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
We love?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh, we have to talk about Taylor swift appearance. We
have to, Yes, we do, because we're going to talk
about her being on the Kelsey Brothers podcast, which, by
the way, broke the Internet. But then we have to
talk about that Taylor Swift effect. All of the companies
that are getting in on the new Orange. Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I've got a take on this, and I think there's
some Taylor Swift extortion happening, right. Tricia's got the story
we love coming up in just a second. It's all
about Taylor Swift. It's happening.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's happening again.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
She has decided to insert herself back into everyone's life.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yep, and everybody's paying attentions.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
A dude in Pennsylvania who that story in a moment,
who is working security for a Little League International, was
sent home and sent his supervisor a threatening text that said,
you guys better have heavy security after the blank you
pulled today because I will be back.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Wow. It heads up, I'm going to do something illegal.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
He works for a little league. Wow, it's comforting serious.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, So, Delicia, that's my favorite part of that. Okay,
So everybody knows by now that Taylor Swift went on
the Kelsey Brothers podcast New Heights. She went on live
one point three million fans tuned in Sandy and it
broke the Internet. About an hour and forty five minutes

(03:11):
into the podcast, the screenwent black and the social media
account had to inform fans that they experienced a glitch
and would be back shortly. Eventually, they did get them
back on the internet or.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Were they on YouTube or something.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I don't know what. They were live on something. I
don't know what it was, but it shut it down.
And the last two days in social media, it's just
clip after clip after clip, and I'm sitting and I'm
watching all the clips. She just sat there unprecedented for
almost two hours, just chats it up about anything and everything.
And I'm sucked into it too.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I think you miss used unprecedented. Why she said, she
just sat there unpressed and met.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
In an unprecedented interview. She's never just sat there for
that long, wow, and just answered questions. She just chatting
with her boyfriend. But she did the cover of her
twelfth album, The Life of a Showgirl, and the color
orange has come out as the representation of this era
of Taylor Swift. Orange, she said, was an Easter egg

(04:14):
from her era's tour. At the end of every show,
she would exit the stage through an orange door. She
described orange as what she felt like was the color
that most accurately represented her life at the time, and
the door was the next era she's walking into. You know,
She's the queen of Easter at and hence, so after
life of a Showgirl was debuted, and this orange craze

(04:37):
has come on. All kinds of companies are jumping on
the orange bandwagon. Let's see, we got olive garden FedEx YouTube,
Elmo McDonald's, United Airlines, American Airlines, the city of Las
Vegas all put Instagram posts up that were something in orange,
something that was a direct reference to the glittery orange.

(05:00):
After Taylor Swift's album debut.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think all these companies and places in cities are
scared to death that if they don't get involved with
it or don't show support for it, the Swifties come
after him. I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think the Swifties go after the people who who
outwardly insult her or put her down. I don't think
that it's the kind of of heavy handedness that if
we don't say we'd like her, they're going to come
after us. I don't think the Lasic people needed to worry.
But they did something in orange. Crumble cookie. Guarantee you
theyre going to be some kind of orange cookie for
crumble cookie right. What they did with this.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
They don't have to pay any like, you know, any
royalty cost or anything to do that.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Because it's just a color.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, Google got in on it, do a lingo. Brazil
got in on it. X even got in on it
and remade their ex with the dazzled orange color. Really yes,
all of this within hours after her debuting the cover
of her next albums The most powerful Us. She really is.
I mean, she absolutely is, and I'm all for it.

(06:01):
I am all for it. Why do I think it's
so cool that Ex did an orange X? I don't care.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know what is interesting and we don't do politics here,
but remember she didn't sway the public too much.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
And when it came to elections, remember.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Uh oh I thought she did. No, I mean the
vote didn't go that way she was yeah right, I
mean well yeah, yeah yeah. So I don't know. It's
very interesting. And if one of the clips from the
New Heights podcast comes up, I sit and I watch it.
She's funny.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
But have you ever listened to the entire podcast?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now, I've only ever listened to the New Heights clips.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, I've never There's several podcasts that I see their
clips all the time.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I never have listened to their podcast ever. Yeah. Ever,
that is the story. We love. Stay with us.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
We have more coming up on What three point one,
Austin's eighties station, and streaming on the iHeartRadio app. Hey,
if you ever decide things by rock paper scissors, stick around,
Christ is going to tell you how to win.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Coming up and care.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Don't care something that comes up daily? Right?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah right? Thanks for me and with us. Grab the
podcast version of the show. It's available every day search
the Sandy Show where you get your podcasts.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Carrying all right, see, I you're gonna start it with
my Pez dispenser fact, but for you decide you don't
care about it anymore, You're still caring.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I'm only caring because you brought it.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Up, all right, So I'm gonna tell you what they
were designed to look like. Initially, they were designed to
look like cigarette lighters because they were supposed to encourage
people to stop smoking and to have a mint instead.
That's why the little head flips at the top. I
would not have in a million years equated the Pez
dispenser to a cigarette no lighter.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, I wouldn't either.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
And you said you didn't even eat them out of
one out of time, out of the head. You've just
opened the package, didn't even load the dispenser and just
ate all the candy.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Ye, the candy is not even that good.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's a barbarian, that's right. The whole point of it
is the novelty of dispensing each one.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Sorry, miss the pez train.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Missed another train? You've missed, Sandy? Do you care? Don't
care to find out? How in Sync got its name,
and it's not because they were in sync with each other?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh does that have something to do with their names?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Tell me yes.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
It uses the last letter of each of the five
original members first names. Justin Chris with an S, Joey
with the Y, some guy named Jason with an N,
and then Jc. Those last letters spelled out in sync.
But then Jason was replaced by Lance Bass, which screwed
it all up. So they just left it.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
We know what Jason did to get kicked out of it, SEU.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I know he got replaced. I don't know what he did.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Boy the boy band. It's gone away for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Hat I guarantee you that cycle will come back. Sure,
there's gonna be some soon. Absolutely, Well. The Koreans are
really killing it.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, k pop YEP is huge YEP, so you're right though,
it will come back. There's some creepy guy out there
putting five boys together. They're seeing a band.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So yeah, all right, Sandy, we're on to the one
I teased you about. Do you care or don't care
to reveal what a survey says about your best choice
when playing rock paper scissors?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Care?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, very good. Let me look at this real quick
to make sure I say it correctly. Twenty one percent
of us usually always pick tails when flipping a coin. Right.
Thirty six percent of the people say that if you
asking pick a number between and one and ten, they're
probably always choosing seven. So this survey figures out what
people throw the most in rock, paper scissors, Rock paper scissors.

(09:45):
The most commonly answer common answer by far was rock.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
So you want to throw a paper to win?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
You want to throw a paper to win? Rock is
the most thrown sign I wonderful because it's most powerful. Yeah,
I feel like I'm a scissors girl. Thirty rock the paper? Yeah.
Twenty three percent said scissors and twenty percent said paper.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I will always go with paper.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Now, choosing paper on your first throw gives you the
best odds of winning.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm gonna beat you now because I know you're gonna
throw paper, I will throw scissors.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, I'm a scissors girl. Oh oh, but you think now,
but that I know that paper's the best.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
One I throw.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right now that I know you're a scissors girl, I
might throw a rock.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, I feel like I might be rock girl. Now
real quick, way, let's.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Do real quick to see who wins. So hold on one, two, three,
and then.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
You throw on four?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Correct? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Ready guy? One two three?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Rah, I did rock.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Well, let's go again. Okay one two three scissors?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Okay, sorry, even so this is it?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
What do you mean we're even? We tied the first one.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh, that's right, you.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Got an excuse?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
No, that's right, that's care.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Don't care.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Hey, if you ask your buddy or friend or something,
you go, hey, you want to go grab a drink?
They may be thinking like a doctor pepper or something,
not like a beer or a martine. Because the number
of Americans who drink alcohol just hit a new all
time low. Gallop did this pull and they found that
fifty four percent of us sometimes have a drink or two,

(11:12):
and that's the lowest since Gallup started tracking this back
in nineteen thirty nine. You can hear the Budweiser and
Jack Daniels. People freaking out from here, right right, listen
the list. Back in nineteen thirty nine, fifty eight percent
said they drank at least occasionally until now, that was
the lowest the low until now. The lowest was fifty

(11:32):
five percent in nineteen fifty eight. An American drinking rate
has been dropping since the pandemic. In twenty twenty two,
sixty seven percent said they were drinkers. Yeah, and most
people now think even moderate drinking is bad for your health.
It's fifty three percent. That's up from twenty eight percent

(11:52):
ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Right. I think this is fueled by the younger generation
that is so in to health and fitness and what
you put into your body.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
And they're smarter, yeah, I mean, and they may have
seen their parents drink too much. Yeah, you know, they
grew up around it. They're like, I don't want to
see that. I don't want that. But boy, they're smart
for not drinking because nothing good comes from.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
It, really, nothing good comes from it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Speaking from lots of experience, friends, I was a heavy,
heavy drinker for a long long time and I haven't
had a drink in almost ten years. But and you don't.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Miss it at all. I don't feel like you're missing
out on anything.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
No, no, no, no, no, no, it's better. I mean,
no one ever And I've said this a million times
since I quit drinking. And someone, like a friend, finds
I tell them I don't drink. No one's ever said
that's a bad idea. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
In fact, they're impressed.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Most of them are. Yeah, And I think a lot
of them want to, but they're scared to. Yeah, they
just don't want to. Just do it, yeah, and just
be done with that.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
We have a sixteen year old daughter and I tell
her all the time, like Leandre, you could go your
entire life without having a sip of alcohol, and you
would have missed out on that nice thing. You will
have just as happy, if not a happier life. It's like,
I'm not telling you you can't drink, but I don't
want her to think, well, I'm about to when I
when I'm an adult, when I'm eighteen and go off

(13:18):
to college, or when I'm twenty one, I have to
start drinking because you don't, No, schuers, heck don't.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
And it's a great trend. I mean you literally are
putting poison in your body, literally putting poison inside of you.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I have, from her being a very young age, have
been trying to instill the drinking's not great, drinking's not good.
And the one I can think of is the most
vivid that I think made an impression on her. She
was like five. We're at one of those playgrounds that
you got in something. It looked like a little flower,
and the little kid would sit in it and spin
and spin and spin. Well, she was spinning like a

(13:52):
crazy woman, and I was like, girl, stop, you're gonna
get sick. She finally stopped. We got out. We got
in the car and driving she had been spinning. She
was dizzy and she was riding in the backseat and
it had to pull over because she got sick. And
I go, baby, I go. When she recovered from it,
we were talking about it and I do you remember
how that felt when you were sick? She goes, yeah,

(14:12):
I go, that's exactly what happens when you drink too
much alcohol. She was like, what why does anyboddy drink?
I mean she was little, and I was like, I
was trying to impress upon her. Bad things happened all right.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Just to recap this, it's pretty amazing that Americans are
drinking less than ever before. She's Tricia. My name is Sandy.
Stay with us. We've got more coming up on Austin's
eighty station what Oh three point one. It's the Sandy
Show on Austin's eighties station what O three point one

(14:47):
and streaming on the iHeartRadio app. The godfather of AI
says we're doomed unless we do something. Yep, all right,
Tricia's got that for us in the story we love
football fans everywhere starting to get ready.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Two weeks until football season.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Tricia, I know, are you so excited?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I am excited. It's the.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Change in the year that I like. You know what
I mean? That just that like stick that kicks off
a new portion of twenty twenty five right summers behind you.
You're moving on. It's fall, it's football, and everybody's happy.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
His stories we love from the Lusterhold Studio. Here's Tricia Delicia.
All right, this is terrifying to me. There's a man
named Jeffrey Hinton. He's known as the God Jeffrey Hinton
and AI.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
He still owes me money?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
What how does he owe you money?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
It's an old joke.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Sorry again. The godfather of AI fears that the technology
he helped build could eventually wipe out humanity and if
the tech bros who are building it up and keep
taking it to the next level don't watch out again,
humanity is gone. He, by the way, was a Google executive.
He's like some Nobel Prize winning computers scientist. He's the

(16:00):
one who helps start AI. I feel like he's somebody
that we all should be listening to. Basically, what he's
saying is they are going to continue AI continue to
get much smarter than us. They will have all sorts
of ways of figuring out how to get around safety protocols.
He says that the absolute only way for AI to

(16:22):
not totally annihilate humanity is that you have to create
an AI that has compassion for humans, that their default
is to not harm human beings. That it's almost like
a mother's feeling towards their baby, that they'll do anything
to protect their child.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
So they need to TAJI that, yes, yes, that's.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
The only way that the computer won't rise up, become
smarter than us, not care about humanity, and eventually destroy humanity.
This wasn't an interview.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's a little far fetched for me. I don't think
it is.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Have you not seen any movies with this exact same
thing happens?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
You haven't.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
No, what are some movies where this happened?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I remember being a small Tricia and watching some movie
that a new house was built and it was run
by a computer, like the air conditioning, the heating, electricity,
the door locks and everything, and the computer became so
smart that it ended up locking the family in the
house and killing them. I remember watching that movie in
the seventies.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Just unplugged the AI. That's all you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't think that's all that will work.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
So does it have feelings? It synthient?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Now?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Does it have feelings?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
They do?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Remember I just did that story the other day about
an AI that was sad. Remember it was when it
couldn't figure out some coding question. It said, I am
so sorry. You should be used to a better level
of service than this. I am a disgrace. The AI
said it was disgrace. It was a disgrace. So they
are learning feelings, and so he's saying that these in

(18:00):
these super intelligent AI mothers that have this maternal sense
for humans. The only thing that's going.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
To well, maybe some of these AI girlfriends that creeps
have can become that mother, you know what I mean.
The guys that are creating girlfriends on the real that's
pretty sad. If I had a son that did that,
we would have a problem.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Oh yeah, that'd be weird.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Dude. You can't have a computer girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
No, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
You can't do that. That's weird, right, I mean weird science.
Talk about movies? Do I talk about movies that created girlfriends?
Weird science? Yep? Right, yeah, so maybe that's the nice thing.
So hopefully we'll be okay, Well, so we'll be glong
gone before this happens.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Who knows, I.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Mean, I hope. So they say they're learning faster than
they expected him too, So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
That's the story. We love more coming up,
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