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January 17, 2025 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning from South Dakota. It's a lot Joe Biden.
You're out on Monday.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Do do do do do do do do?

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Everyone have a great day. Dragon. Is there something you
want to do?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I always think we could do it later, but we
can do it here if you want.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
You want to do it here?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Why not? Why not? I unders thinking since we had
that talk back, this might be a good time to
do that.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
So we've got I have a bunch of drops, right,
I don't have anything about Joe Biden, some of the
crazy things that he has said, either in the past
or during his presidency. And you know, we figured since
come Monday, we have no reason to play those anymore
because he's no longer president. We just as well play them.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
And could we hear for one last time? The no
that's I thought we had just one was Kamala.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's Kamala. That's many of them. I put a whole bunch.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
It sounds like Hillary to me.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Now I have the Hillary one. If you want that one.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
No, no, no, no, she's she's different. Okay, Well, let
let's get rid of let's let's purge ourselves of Joe.
Let let's have what what do they call a clans,
you know, like colon klans, Like we're gonna do a
colonoscy be here. So let's do that with Uncle Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Cannot go to a seven eleven or Duncan Donuts unless
you have a slight Indian accent.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
He's not joking, man, he's not joking.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Man. Let me man, Let me say that one more time.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Poor kids are just as bright and justice towns white kids.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Not a racist, not a racist.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You got the first sort of America.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
It was articulate and bright and clean and bic looking.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Guys, we finally found a clean, articulate black man.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Not a racist, not a racist.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
If you have a problem figuring out whether you're Premi
or Trump and you.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Ain't black, totally not a racist, Totally not a racist.
Do you know the thing?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
You know, I'm gonna miss the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know the thing.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
You'd probably miss your thing too, So let's give him
kind of on that one. You know the thing true depressure.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
No truer words have ever been spoken.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Gettysburg address material true depressure.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
My god, what freedom else would you take away?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
And this goes well, we were gonna take Hunter speeding
away until you heartened him.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I guarantee you I will be totally transparent in terms
of my health and all aspects of my health.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Notice the difference in that voice and the voice we
heard in that speech.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Dude, I was just gonna say that.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, Wow, I guarantee you I will be totally transparent
in terms of my health and all aspects of my health.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Man, that's it what I got?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
That was it? Now hit delete?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They're right, hit delete.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
So the Trump effect is and this and this part
this this amazed me. There there there is, to some degree,
I think, a cross ideological coalition that is beginning to
kind of form in this country. And what's it? What's

(03:59):
its objective to reform American health? This week, the FDA
decided after decades, I mean I can remember, maybe I
was in high school. So we're talking like, you know,
the Dark Ages, when there was all this concern about
red dye number three, also known as something called racine

(04:24):
or something like that. It is a petroleum based color addity.
You find it in food, beverages, drugs, you find it everywhere.
Froot loops. Everybody talks about fruit loops. It's in fruit loops.
They've been talking about you know it's a carcinogen. I
think it's a known carcinogen. I may be wrong about that,

(04:45):
But the FDA has vacillated back and forth, and of
course I'm sure that the food industry lobbyists have been
the ones that have kept the FDA at bay. But
they finally decided, after you know, after I finally turned
into an old part, they decide that, oh, oh yeah,
we're going to ban red dye number three, And of
course everybody seemed kind of surprised, including yours truly was

(05:07):
surprised by that. Now, they did ban the coloring agent
that dye back in nineteen ninety in cosmetics. Now think
about this. I don't often wear cosmetics, but went on
TV I do. They banded in cosmetics over concerns that

(05:30):
it caused cancers when consumed by rats. But yet it
waited twenty five years or more to ban it because
it was in candy and cereal and things that you
actually put not on your face, but you put down
in your gut. So the FDA was reacting to a

(05:55):
petition filed by something called the Environmental Working Group and
of course the Liberal Center for Science in the Public Interest.
But I think that the rising political pressure comes from
a new coalition between the left and the right that

(06:15):
is demanding the removal of toxic food addities. And I
think that Bobby Kennedy Junior by making this a signature
campaign issue and by Donald Trump coming out and saying
that he indeed wants to and of course I can't
wait to listen to that confirmation hearing because what are

(06:38):
Democrats going to do. I mean, they've got a Kennedy
in front of them. Now again, I don't agree with
everything that Bobby Kennedy says or that he believes, but
then again, you don't believe everything that I say or believe. However,
I believe everything the Dragon says. Think about that coalition

(06:59):
and think about a information hearing where Democrats have in
front of them the progeny of one of the most
storied Democrat dynasties in this country, the Kennedys, Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, and he makes this whole campaign issue and
visits with Donald Trump, and Trump trying to build this

(07:20):
coalition of people from all aspects of life, says, yeah,
he wants to uh the Maha instead of maga. We
got Maha. Make America Great Again, MAHA, make America Healthy Again.
So there's this food blog called food bade Blog. It's
written by Vonnie Harry. That author has been waging a

(07:44):
campaign to remove food dies and other additives and children's serials.
In a post this week, she thanked a coalition of
Democrat and Republican lawmakers, left leaning food so safety groups,
and figures individuals in the Trump A line make America

(08:07):
Healthy Again movement for the victory. Doctor Venet Pissad, who
is the Associate professor of epidemiology and Biostatistics at the
University of California, San Francisco, was also on X yesterday
and said they are only taking these actions because they

(08:28):
know that RFK Junior and Marty McCurry are going to
do these things. So the bureaucracy, in anticipation of being
forced to do something by their political leadership, says, oh,
let's jump in and do it now. But there's another
part of the coalition, and I think there's another reason

(08:50):
the FDA did this, and it comes from an unusual source.
Back in twenty twenty two, Governor DeSantis convened a eight
wide Florida grand jury to investigate the COVID nineteen, the
Sarsko v. Two pandemic. The report was released on January
seventh and called for sweeping reforms of the pharmaceutical industry,

(09:15):
including ideas very much in line with these left leaning
public interest groups. The DeSantis report called for the FDA
to reinstate it's nineteen ninety seven ban on direct to
consumer advertising of therapeutics. I have to add a footnotes here.

(09:42):
The non lawyer, non you know, constitutional lawyer side of
me says, yeah, I think we need to get rid
of these advertisements advertisements. But the other side of my brain,
the one that is, you know, a free speech absolutist,

(10:03):
says that Pfizer and Maderna and you know who knows
I mean Ozimpic kind of hate that Ozmpic commercial. We
we and that way's got some you know, overweight obese
woman dancing around like, oh you little look at me.
I'm all happy because I take Ozmpic. It tries me nuts.
The law. Your side of me says, yeah, we can't

(10:24):
ban that. That's probably a violation first Amendment. But then
I back up and I know, well, they they banned
you know, the advertising of cigarettes. And then I realized
oh yeah, and it is also FCC regulated, so I
guess they you know, you gotta, you know, pass a
regulation to protect everybody, right, gotta protect everybody from all
these dangers. But that report called for the FDA to

(10:48):
reinstate a nineteen ninety seven ban, not to ban, but
to reinstate their old ban on direct to consumer advertising pharmaceuticals.
And you know you you cannot watch There are probably
many Fox News included that between my pillow and you

(11:10):
know pharmaceuticals, that probably accounts for I don't know, fifty
percent of the revenue. I don't know. I'm just thowing that.
I just pulled that number out of my butt. The
vaccine maker's influence, according to the report, extended to a
variety of special interest groups, many of which took undisclosed
pharmaceutical money while at the same time lobbying to support

(11:34):
a vaccine mandate and all these other corresive measures that
we got back in back in early twenty twenty. Just
to remind you of that, I watched again on X yesterday,
just as I forget who posted it, but just as
a reminder about how bad things were. They showed a

(11:58):
funeral and everybody was spaced out, you know, at least
six feet apart. And at some point in the middle
of the funeral, some mother's son had died, and she's
at the funeral and she's sitting alone in front of
the casket, and everybody else is all spread out, and finally,

(12:21):
you know, this, this security camera in the funeral home
or the chapel or whatever it was, shows that a
probably maybe it's a brother, or maybe it was, you know,
one of her other sons. But somebody takes their chair
and moves it over to the mother, puts her arm,
puts his arm around the mother. And then another person

(12:44):
was on the front row takes their chair and moves
it over, and suddenly, you know, it just takes one
person to defy the stupidity, and suddenly people in the
funeral home are beginning to all move their chairs towards

(13:05):
the mother, and in comes running the funeral home director
and starts trying to move everybody back to where they were,
and everybody refuses, that's where we were. And while that
was going on, the vaccine makers were undisclosed monies to

(13:30):
lobbyists to support vaccine mandates and all these other coercive measures.
What was that thing that Biden said about his health,
he wanted to be very transparent about it. What about
transparency in this kind of stuff? But then let's call
it back to this grand jury report. There was another
section of the grand jury report that called for the

(13:52):
FEDS to adopt new measures to stop the revolving door
of all these private sector employees and lobbyists in and
out of the FT, the CDC, and the NIH. Here's
an excerpt. The report says this, we understand that prior
experience in the regulatory arm of a particular industry can

(14:13):
be an attractive quality in a potential job candidate, just
as private sector experience can help a regulator interface with
those private actors. This phenomenon has clearly produced a quote
fellow traveler attitude between the pharmaceutical companies and the agencies

(14:34):
designed to regulate those very pharmaceutical companies. The boats of
the regulators and the regulator are not supposed to be
rowing in the same direction, the report continues. If problems
are discovered, they have to be timely disclosed to the
public and meaningfully addressed by the sponsor and the regulator,

(14:55):
lest the public lose faith in the system. Where the
hell think we are today. I think we're at the
point where we don't have any faith in the system.
The report continued, There needs to be a healthy degree
of tension between the industry and the regulators. Much of
what we have learned about the regulatory process for the

(15:16):
COVID nineteen vaccines has demonstrated that, at least during this period,
the FDA did not appear to be a responsible and
effective gatekeeper. Now, Governor DeSantis is really proud of that
grand jury report, and he has called for policymakers to
heat his warnings and to heat his recommendations, and to
start implementing those recommendations. The governor announced, quote, the status

(15:40):
quo cannot continue. The American people deserve transparency on how
big pharma is using their federal tax dollars, and they
deserve regulating entities that operate as watchdogs, not as cheerleaders. Now,
if you just go back to that time period, it

(16:01):
would have been completely out of the realm of any
sort of political responsibility for a prominent Republican to call
for that kind of crackdown on drug and pharmaceutical industry influence.
And yet today here we are, And I think that's
part of the Trump effect, because for decades now, all

(16:22):
of these ideas were limited mainly to the kind of
obscure corporate watchdogs and then crazy people like Bernie Sanders.
Take Public Citizen for example, it is carefully documented and
crucided against the abuses of direct to consumer drug ad adds.

(16:42):
I think that's probably the only thing that in terms
of public citizen that I might look at and say, yeah,
you know what, I might agree with you on that.
But in the past, I didn't think there was any
chance in hell that either Republicans or Democrats would ever
do anything about it. So what changed? Donald Trump and

(17:04):
Bobby Kennedy Jr. And I think the pandemic. Clearly, the
pandemic has changed people's minds. And I think now that
this this kind of undertow of a demand to kind
of get rid of the lobbyists or at least get
them out of the FDA and the CDC, that's now
kind of an ideal that that has collapsed. Whatever ideological

(17:27):
partisan divide there's been about this revolving door. So what
might happen over the next two to four years. Well,
Democrats still empower in state governments, will need to compete
and offer compelling answers to these problems, and I think
there will be some legislators that might address that. Oh yeah,

(17:51):
Michael Dragon, give me the cackle some of them all.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
That was kind of.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Weird, creepy bro as creepy, very greedy. So I've been
watching as much as I can of these confirmation hearings,
and there's there were two yesterday that I want to
swerve into in a minute, But before I do, I
want to I want to kind of set the stage

(18:21):
four it. Generally speaking, I want to say this, I
feel sorry for the Democrats. I really do feel sorry
for the Democrats because they are so out gunned by
Trump's nominees that they're just floundering. But I think the
Democrat Party kind of ripped large right now is just floundering.

(18:44):
There are all these stories right now about Kamala and
you know, what's she going to do? What are she
and Doug's she and Dougie going to do? And she's
really upset that Biden keeps saying that he thinks he
could have beat he could have beat Joe Biden, and
she really feels just really stung by that, and they're,
you know, they she's out in California. Well, I don't

(19:05):
know where she is today or not, but she's been
out in California because you know, in case she runs
for governor, she needs to be seen as you know,
trying to help Californians right now. But of course they're
gonna split their time according to news reports between uh
you know, Brent Wood in LA and New York and
Dougie's looking for a white shoe law firm job. So
you know they're gonna start cashing in. And who knows

(19:27):
what she's gonna do. The three options I've read about is,
you know, run for governor, run for president again, Oh
my god, could we please do that? Or she's just
gonna go you know, she's gonna get a huge advanced
write a book, and uh, you know, go in this
on the speaking circuit, make make a you know, a
feces load of money, and then and then figure out

(19:48):
what to do from there. Uh ask people. I hope
she does. I don't care. I don't care. But let's
let's do an inventory for a minute of just where
the Democrats right now and where where's the cabal right now? Now.
I'm not going to claim that the cabal is going away,
don't get me wrong, but the Cabal for the first time,

(20:09):
it's kind of like, you know, it's it's like a
star trek, you know, kind of ship moving through the
through the galaxies right now, and it's got damage. Uh
Maga has gotten a new weapon and they've kind of
pierced it a little bit, and so everybody inside the
Cabal is scrambling trying to figure out what to do,

(20:29):
and they're losing pressure, you know, and the you know,
the oxygen masks have dropped, and you know, people are
putting it on their own face before they put it
on the person next to them, and they're all scrambling around.
It's like when a kid, you know, you find an
ant heal and you kind of take a stick and
stir the ants and they all start running around everywhere.
What's going on the cabal right now? So I would
I would say we have to start with Biden giving

(20:52):
yet another farewell speech, which he did again full of
lies that he can't understand understand anyway, because well he's
putting brain and he's just put and the sad well
enough the sad part, but the real part is nobody cares.
And I think even diehard Democrats are just counting the
minutes now until he's gone. Do you realize that CNN

(21:17):
is in the middle of a one billion dollar defamation
trial for trying to protect Biden by attacking somebody who
actually got people out of Afghanistan? And the judge in
the case sounds seriously torqued off its CNN And during
his testimony, Jake Tapper got caught in yet another lie.

(21:42):
It's pretty amazing. Uh. Fox News has a headline. This
is from a couple of days ago CNN defamation trial.
Jake Tapper testifies he doesn't pay attention to ratings. Online
posts say otherwise. Huh. Let's see here is mister Tapper,

(22:07):
can you give an overview of viewership numbers for your show?
The Lead, Young's attorney has heard off camera asking in
the recorded November twenty twenty four exchange, Tapper responds, I cannot,
so the attorney follows up, you have no idea how
many people watch The Lead on an average basis. I
do not pay attention to ratings, he says. Then an

(22:32):
attorney asks Tapper to define what do you mean by ratings?
A Tapper responded by explaining how Nielsen ratings. Metrics are
how shows, networks and advertisers determine how many people are
watching the show at any given moment, so Tapper adds,
and I do not pay attention to the Nielsen ratings.
So yes, well, then Fox News Digital found a dozen

(22:56):
examples a social media post showing Tapper either touting his
show's ratings highlighting the ratings of other shows, which obviously
contradicts his entire testimony, his sworn testimony, I might add,
he lets He wrote an X this is in March

(23:16):
of last year. Radies go up, readies go down, but
the United States of Scandal had the highest ratings and
the key demo on Cable News on Sunday and was
the most watched show on CNN. Thank you so much
for watching, he posted. Then he went on to Jimmy
Fallon and well he had this to.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Say, Oh, this is the Unitedes of Scandal. Yes, this
is six part series.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I think it's genius.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Just so you though, it's not airing this Sunday because
of the oscars, but the next Sunday it's coming on.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
And this Sunday was Jimmy Kimmel. Right, Well, Jimmy Kim Yeah,
he's our boy.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, we watch Jimmy Kimmell.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, we like.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
But the Sunday after that, we're gonna do McGreevy. These
are these are you know a lot of things changed
when Donald Trump came down that escalator in twenty fifteen,
and we went back and looked at some of the
scandals that were so huge before. Then.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Sandford and John.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Edwards and Mcgoyevich and Spitzer interviewed major players in them,
sat down with them, tried to figure out what really happened.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
And it's been it's been fun.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's really fascinating.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's all fascinating stuff. Congress in this. I want to
show a clip.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Here's Jake Tapper with former Governor Jim McGreevy in the
next episode of the United States of Scandal.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Take a look at this.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
I didn't wake up and say, you know, I'm going
to be deceptive for the sake of deceiving. I'm going
to create this whole double ledger. No, I didn't make
that decision prior to theatorial campaign. I made it I
got seven or eight years old. I can remember this
as if it were yesterday. I go to my local
public library, and I'm pulling out the Guard catalog looking

(24:48):
for the word homosexuality, and it's said underneath see psychiatric illness.
And it was just like this thing, at least then
in America called gay wasn't a good thing. I realized
at that point in time that life is going to
be a very painful trajectory if I own this, and

(25:10):
you just try to make an accommodation, albeit an unhealthy accommodation.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Jay Top, everybody's back there. You're so good, thank you,
so so good. It's great to be here.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Let's just self congratulate each other. Isn't it wonderful? So
that case could costs see it in a billion dollars? Uh?
The LA wildfires really, I mean I I once again,
I'm on television yesterday. I did a news nation yesterday.
But you know what's happening. Those fires are waking up

(25:46):
a lot of people to the problems that are created
when you have a single party government for decades at
a time. Colorado, you got to watch what's going on
in California. There's nobody defending Gavin Newsomber caring Bess unless
they're getting paid to defend them. Oh, Stacy Abrams, Remember
her that voter registration nonprofit got the largest fine in

(26:12):
Georgia history for secretly canvassing for her twenty eighteen gubernatorial campaign.
Now I'm sure that CNN and MSNBC, who were paying
her some of that to do that, are trying to
come up frantically with some good excuses for her and

(26:34):
for them. And then this broke yesterday as I was
sitting waiting for my hit with News Nation. The Congressional
Progressive Staff Association, Congressional Progressive Staff Association, they're now demanding
a thirty two hour work week. So if they want

(26:57):
to associate progressivism with laziness, have had it. Yeah, So
the bureaucrats that work on the hill wont only work
thirty two hours. And I suppose they're looking at their bosses,
their senators, and their congressmen saying, well, you guys barely work,
So why did you we barely work? And then I
haven't talked about this, but the Washington Post is losing

(27:21):
staffers that Jennifer Ruben is gone, one of their political
prize winning editorial cartoonists was arrested for possession of child porn,
and revenues are down significantly TikTok. We don't know about TikTok.
We may of course know about TikTok today, And of
course then Pete Hegsath gets attacked by all of these

(27:43):
tackling hens as do well, as did every nominee. It's
really good right now to not be a Democrat and
it's really difficult right now to be a Democrat. Now,
does that mean we're for a utopia? Note, I suppose
it's possible, But I think we're headed for a change.

(28:07):
But of course we could always be disappointed. But I
think that what's going on right now is truly a
significant change. But the left doesn't want to believe it.
They don't want to believe that they're in trouble. So

(28:30):
what's going on out there? Yesterday we had several confirmation
hearings going on, but the ones that didn't get much
attention probably should Bescent, who is going to be Trump's
Treasury secretary, Zelden, the former congressman who's going to be

(28:52):
the head of the EPA. They got grilled and during
the confirmation hearings for them, Scott Descent and Leez Elden,
there were a couple of pretty interesting exchanges that I
think you ought to hear that's next.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
I hope every they have their popcorn ready today. Cash
Patil is up to that.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
It will be quite entertaining, for sure. I think that
will be the most entertaining. And I hope he is
as steadfast and stoic as is or as was Pete
Hagst's well, for that matter, all of the nominees so far.

(29:35):
Have you thought about how strategically they have aligned these
to appear again, go second third level in that statement,
that's not just a decision by the Trump transition team.
That's a decision that's made in conjunction with the Speaker,

(29:57):
the Majority Leader, the whip, and the chair of the
respective committees. So when all they get together and decide
that again tells me there's a coalescence. There's a coalescing
that's going on between Trump and the majority in the

(30:18):
House and the Senate. And I think that's fantastic. So
back to these two clips from yesterday. So watch what
happens when Oregon Senator Ron Wyden tries to scold Scott
Descent into committing to support something completely outside his job responsibility.
Tell me what the Treasury secretary has to do with
green energy.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Now there is a big effort in the Trump administration
to reverse it. I think that's going to be bad
for the economy, but it is going to be damn
good for China because we are in an arms race
and clean energy with them. Are you going to be
on the side of people who want to unravel this.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
The center of widen.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
So we can frame this for everyone in the room.
China will build a hundred new coal plants this year.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
There is not a clean energy race. There is an
energy race.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
China will build ten nuclear plants this year that is
not solar. I am in favor of more nuclear plants,
and I would note that the IRA as scored by
the CBO is wildly out of control in terms of
spending on the upside boom.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Damn, yeah, he's one hundred percent correct. Of course, China's built. Yeah,
they are building wooden solar and some of them is
backed up with new stationary batteries. But it continues unobated
building new coal fire power plants more than the rest
of the world combined as the power source for its

(31:55):
constantly expanding fleet of heavy industrial manufacturers. SES and Besinda's right,
this is not a clean energy race. It's an energy
and an economic race, and frankly, I think we're losing it.
Why because a knit with like Ron Wyden from Oregon
who insist on forcing misallocations of trillions of dollars in

(32:18):
pursuit of this stupid green energy fantasy. Now, next up
is and I might Timmy's not good here, but the
main topic between Senator Sullivan and Dan Sullivan and Lee
Zelden is the EPA being armed like freaking FBI teams

(32:39):
rating mar Lago when those EPA enforcement agents go out
to perform site inspections for compliance under the Clean Airing
the Clean Water Acts. Now, I think many people are
probably not aware, but there are so many little, many
police departments throughout the government. But listen to this.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
So one of the areas where we haven't seen cooperative
federalism at all is the way in which the EPA
in my state has a history of enforcing the laws
and no offense to my Democratic colleagues. This is always
with Democrat administrations. The Obama administration did what they do

(33:21):
is they come in with giant, heavy armed armed agents,
body armor, helicopters.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Like it's shocking.

Speaker 8 (33:31):
We had a raid on some plaster miners in a
place called Chicken, Alaska. Under President Obama, over thirty armed
agents body armors to do what do compliance on the
Clean Water Act? They didn't find one violation. They scared
the hell out of the miners.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
Then, not to be outdone, the Biden administration has done
these raids on small mechanics shops in Alaska. They bring
up EPA agents from all over the country. Thirty armed
agents kicking indoors in mechanic shops in Alaska. By the way,
my state believes in the Second Amendment. Most of my

(34:12):
state is armed. This is very dangerous because some of
these agents could get shot when they're coming in. So
what's happened is you don't you don't have cooperative federalism.
You have rogue EPA agents who are going to enforcement
before they talk about compliance on any of these issues.

(34:34):
They could have gone to these mechanic shops. You could
have gone to the miner saying, hey, we think you
may be violating the Clean Water can you work with us? No,
these guys come. They they had forty agents, all of
them armed, raiding these mechanic shops.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
It is be prepared to be a little disappointment,
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