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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Guys, wait a minute, this is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
Oh I thought it was just Breast Awareness Month, which
I thought was silly because I'm always aware.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh, men are so wonderfully easy.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Aren't we. I'm John Caldera and for the big Man.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I tell the women in my life I know this,
and they don't believe me.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Men are simple.
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If we're not thinking about food, we're thinking about sex.
If we're not thinking about sex, we're thinking about food.
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You can draw the X.
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Y access Somewhere along that line is where our minds
are at.
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And that's it. That's really just it.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You find a woman who will give you a sand
which during love making, we die of happiness.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's just that easy. We've got nothing else. Marry me,
you marry me. It's a pastra? What did George castand
to say?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I've always thought pastrami was the most erotic of all
the dried meats? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It is?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It is no broad day as a It's also Columbus Day,
isn't Is it Columbus Day?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
What day is today?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Indigenous People's Day? Oh god, God, Indigenous People's Day. But
don't worry, you don't get the day off for.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That one, yes, but I can't go to the bank.
We don't get mail. That's true. You know why when
is the holiday?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
When is the holiday where government workers and banks have
to go to work but the rest of us get
it off.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
When is that day?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
This is just an inconvenience for everybody else day. If
you've got kids in a public school, government school, you
got to find out daycare for them. You need to
get your business done. Well, the mail doesn't come. You
can't get to the bank. No, I imagine is a
stock market closed up at? The stock market's closed too?
I want I want to day. That is like Taxpayers Day.
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On Taxpayers' Day, taxpayers get the day off and government
workers have to work for free. Of course we'll say
they're doing that right now. They're doing that right now,
real quick.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Not quite as good sounding, but still delicious.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's also a national eminem day. It's National what day Eminem?
Like the candies? Eminem's very cool, very cool.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
All right, let's get to this.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I got some other channel in my ear, all right,
three oh three seven one three eight two five five
seven to one three talk in any event, Sorry, I
had to go yell at something. Bernie Sanders is planning
to introduce an artificial intelligence legislation. Hmmm, that he is
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proposing a robot tax. Oh good god man. He is
proposing a robot tax on large corporations that replace workers
with AI or automation. He told the Washington Examiner that
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he plans to introduce a robot tax, among other AI
related items.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Not today, he said, but we will. What does that mean.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It means he's a crazed socialist, and as a crazed socialist,
he wants something he cannot describe. Not tomorrow, but we will.
How in the world are you going to outlaw robots?
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How are you going to tax them? Let's keep in mind,
let's just go backwards in time. Technology is disruptive. It's
what technology does. And when technology disrupts the market, people
are displaced. Workers are displaced, and that's called an economic
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terms creative destruction. Why do they call it creative destruction
because economists don't know how to talk to humans and
apparently they don't need any real friends, so they come
up with terms like rent seeking and creative destruction and
moral hazards instead of just speaking English. So if you're
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old like me, you remember things like, oh, I don't
know travel agents.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Do you remember travel agents?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You wanted to go someplace, you'd call somebody on the
phone and go, I'd like to go somewhere. And they
spent about twenty minutes tapping on a keyboard and then
they get you a ticket after they told you what
this would cost or what that would cost, or if
you went on.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
This day, and now what do you do?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
You book your own tickets and it saves you gobs
of money. Would your life be better off if if
you didn't have that, if you had to go back
and deal with deal with a human being. No, technology
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always disrupts. What about those people who lost their jobs
making buggies or horse whips for people who used their
buggies because buggies were those little trailers pulled by a horse.
And then that god awful Henry Ford came here with
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this technology of an assembly line and Americans could afford
their own cars. If Sanders was around, there would be
an extra tax for that assembly line because it's putting
buggy manufacturers out of work. Well, AI is going to
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disrupt everything, just like the Internet disrupted everything. Just like
before that, computers disrupted everything. Dislike the assembly line disrupted everything,
and communications disrupted everything, and good god, once we had
a radio, once you could radio. Oh somebody, what about
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those poor telegraph operators and then guys who put up
the wires. Technology allows people to leapfrog.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You know, for years we thought, what are we gonna
do with poor poor nations? You know, how are they
going to get their technology? You know, they need communications.
We need to run phone lines to them.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No, we don't. What ended up happening.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Instead of taking a small town in Africa and running
copper lines to everyone's little shack, we ended up having
cell phones, and cell phones leapfrogged. And now that whole
mess of running copper lines isn't necessary. It's not necessary
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because technology came and liberated those people. Starlink is now
liberating people who are in remote areas to connect them
to fast internet service. It's incredible technology has done that.
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Robots have been building our cars and our appliances, making
them affordable.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know the beautiful thing about a robot.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It doesn't take Columbus day I'm sorry, Indigenous people's day off.
It continues to work. It doesn't take maternity leave or
paternity leave. It doesn't have sick days, it doesn't go
on strike.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's productive.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Senator Elizabeth Warren said, quote, I'm concerned about people losing
their jobs to AI, to offshoring.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And all the other ways.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
At a handful of billionaires figure out they can rake
off all the profits from whatever work gets done.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Are you.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Why do we vilify successful people. I've never understood it.
And by the way, Elizabeth, I know it's Native Americans Day,
so it's your day, and I don't want to bother
you on it. But is your life better because of
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those awful billionaires and what they've created?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Is your life better?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Are you able to order things on Amazon and have
it delivered right to your door in the midst of
a COVID lockdown?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Are you able to have co unications and an iPhone
in your pocket so you can complain about capitalism as
you try to drive it into the ground all those awful,
awful billionaires who have liberated you. See, the thing about
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wealthy people is in order to become wealthy, they have
to provide a value proposition. They have to give something
to consumers that improves their lives.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
They have to give us fuel.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
To warm our homes, airplanes to fly, and c our relatives,
medicines to keep us alive. These are good things, These
are wonderful things.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
AI is disruptive.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Lots of people will lose their jobs because of technology,
just like lots of people have always lost their jobs.
Three h three seven one three eight two five five
seven one three talk. Let me, let me go a
little farther. There was a time when ninety five percent
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of America's population was involved in farming and agriculture, particularly
labor intensive. You had to plow the soil by hand,
or if you were lucky, you got a horse that
could pull the plow. Now, all of our food, all
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of our food, let me say it again, all of
our food comes from about two to three percent of
the population.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Why is that possible? How is that possible?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
If it were up to communists like Elizabeth Warren and
Bernie Sanders, we would have punished all the technology that
liberated us from the toil of working in fields pulling
potatoes out of.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
The ground by hand.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
We now have tractors that first ran on steam.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Think about that.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
They had to keep putting coal and wood into those
things and keep them full.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Of water so that they could plow the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Now they have huge combines and all sorts of technologies
to plow the fields, to fertilize the fields, to seed
the fields, to harvest the.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Fields, and bring it to a king soupers near you.
What did that.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Technology did that? What will what will AI do? I
don't know. Will it replace what I am doing right
now talking into a phone, talking into a microphone, talking into.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Two people? It could. It could.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
People might be able to program their own commentators any
way they like, and you'll always have somebody to agree
with you. I don't know what AI is going to bring,
but it is going to disrupt a lot of jobs, and,
by the way, provide us all sorts of advantages. The
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ability to be able to do research faster, to do
modeling of drugs faster, to look for the most efficient
ways to get any production done, faster, to write our
entertainment faster, to write our code for more programs faster.
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Story continues. Senator Josh Howley, perhaps the most populous Republican
in the Senate, said he would also be open to
discussions about, you know, stopping technology. I think we need
to consider, he said, everything we can to figure out
how we protect workers' rights. What about consumers' rights? What
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about free speech rights? Because isn't AI, after all, just
free speech? What do I mean by that? I mean
it's code. People are sitting down tapping out things onto
a computer and creating something. Because they write something, it's
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free speech.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Josh Holly continues. So I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I'm assuming Bernie Sanders about this or seenis proposal, but
I'd be open to discussing anything.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I like Senator Rick Scott from Florida.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Quote, I think if it's called a tax, I'm against it.
I haven't supported a tax since I got elected in
twenty ten. Likewise, Senator Johnson of Wisconsin says he wants
to simplify and rationalize the tax code.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
He also said concerns about jobs being taken are overblown,
noting that the United States labor force has undergone several
changes over the years. It wasn't that many decades ago,
he said, where the high percentage of Americans that were
farmers now less than ten percent, it's actually less than
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like three percent. That's actually a good thing. It's called productivity,
all right. So if this doesn't happen, on a federal level.
It is happening on a state level. In the last
session before last the Colorado legislature passed a bill regulating AI,
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a ridiculous bill, a spectacularly buffoonish bill, and our tech
friendly governor signed it. It allows the state to regulate
and look at AI to make sure it doesn't quote discriminate,
that it's not used in discrimination.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
What does that mean? No one really knows.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But it creates these ridiculous, ridiculous oversight of AI. It
will chase AI out of Colorado. Now, I really want
to know what happened behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I know.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Jared Polis, Jared Polus, no matter what I think of
most of his policies, is technologically remarkably savvy. Guy made
his business in tech. He doesn't want this, and he
knows it's going to be bad for Colorado. So in
the special session he brought up AI in hopes of
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redoing that bill. He knew it's a bad bill, he
knows it's going to stifle Colorado. He couldn't get a
fixed to it passed, and it was going to go
into effect this February.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
He did get a short delay the.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
New law, which basically outlaws AI development in Colorado, and
maybe even the use of AI in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Will be delayed until the end of the next session.
Will they fix it? Should there be a robot tax? John?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
My grandfather used to work for Bell Telephone, and do
you know that the Communications workers of America thought the
introduction of the dial telephone, claiming that would put all
the switchboard operators out of work? How many telephone workers
do you think we'd have today if we still had
to go through a switchboard?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
What a spectacular point.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Hey, I'm John KELDERA good morning thirty three minutes after
give me a call three h three seven to one
three eight two five five, or do a talkback or
give me a text in for the big man who's
out spending time with the grandkids. Well that's spectacular, I
mean for him, poor grandkids. What did they do wrong?
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Bernie Sanders is promoting the idea of a robot tax.
I love that talkback? You remember switchboard operators.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
One ringy dinghy.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Lillie Tomlin's routine would not work today, would it. I
liked it when Andy Griffith would pick up that little
rotary phone and go, Mabel, get me Fox Hill seven
oh eight, those those were the days, weren't they. Oh
darn all that technology? Like what's in your pocket?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Think of it now.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
There are pluses and minuses, the plus, of course being
you have a super computer in your pocket, so many, many,
many times powerful then all the computers used to send
Man to the moon. You can change your stock portfolio,
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you can change your flights, you can order food, you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Can buy anything you want.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You can ask it any question and it will give
you an answer. You can do anything with your smartphone.
It's a full fledged computer connected to the world.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You can for free have a video.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Conversation with anyone around the world. This is some serious
Jetson's kind of crap, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You remember the idea.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Back back in what was it nineteen sixty nine or something,
the two thousand and one movie, and the guy makes
a video call. He makes it, goes into a phone
booth like there'd still be phone booths, and he pays
thirty five dollars for a couple minutes talking to his
daughter back on Earth. As it turns out, there are
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no phone booths and it doesn't cost anything.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Do you remember long distance charges?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You remember having to wait the weekend to talk to mom,
because you know it's cheaper on the weekend. Think of
what a phone company would have to do. They had
to keep track of every call you made and then
bill you seventy five cents a minute. And I remember
during the day it was something like seventy five cents
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a minute to call long distance. Try to explain that
to your kids. If Bernie Sanders had his way, Mabel
would still be working at the switchboard, rolling around on
her little chair with her headset on and going, one moment,
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I'll connect you, pulling a cord with a quarter inch
jack plug on the end of it and shoving it
into something else.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
To get the call routed.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Remember when we had a monopoly on phone service, because
phones are definitely a monopoly, how could they not be.
Now we've got gazillions of ways of communicating through the Internet,
through cable, through phone lines, over the air, through starlink,
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their Wi Fi, through Bluetooth, and it keeps getting better.
God blessed technology. But communists don't want technology. They don't
want advancement. They want to keep people poor. They want
to stifle advancement. Why they say it's a very pro
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human thing. It's not a pro human thing. It's it's
protection and it hurts everyone everyone. So let's see, we
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used to have the Neighborhood five and dime, and then
Woolworsts came and put that out of business. And then
we look back at Woolworst's and think, oh, those were
the days we used to have the Sears Roebuck Catalog,
which for generations was the way America shopped, ordering things
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by mail and waiting for the postal service to deliver
it months later. Well, now we have Amazon, and we
look back at those days with the Sears Roebuck catalog
with such such remarkable passion and romance. No nobody wants
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to do it that way. You can order something and
get it delivered the next day, sometimes the same day,
Amazon will be will be taken over as well. You
had Walgreens taking over Woolworth's position.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Then you had.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Walmart taking over Walgreens and Woolworth's and the Neighborhood five
and dime, and the left screams, oh, that's terrible for
working people. Wait a second, Walmart allows people to buy
things at a much less cost. Who does that benefit
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proportionally benefits the poor the most It makes their money
go further. They can afford a big screen TV. Now,
they can afford new underwear. They can afford it all
thanks to Walmart.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And then Walmart gets competition from Amazon. In the meantime.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yes, these people get very wealthy, but they get wealthy
because they add value. AI adds value, and AI is
nothing more than a much more sophisticated computer program. It
is a what they call a large language learning model.
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That is, the more it learns from all the information
out there, the better it gets at recognizing things. Have
you ever logged onto a website? And as part as
the verification of are you a robot? And asks you
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please click the picture of a bicycle that shows you
twelve different photos and you have to click the ones
that you see a bicycle on that security to make
sure it's not a robot.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But also.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You're teaching robots what bicycles look like. You're teaching robots
what bicycles look like, so they're learning, they are learning.
I don't know where this AI revolution ends, but it
will be very disruptive. It will affect your job in
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pluses and minuses.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Have you used chat GPT? Have you had it? Write
a letter? For you.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's ridiculous. I'm trying to use AI better. You know,
I'm an old dog trying to learn a new trick.
AI can proofread what you right, It can can suggest ideas.
It can create artwork. It can create songs. I've heard
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many AI created songs, and they all sound what's the
best word, competent? Not great, but competent good enough for
background music. It can create art. What is your fear
with AI? That it'll take human jobs? Hasn't that been
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the fear of every technological advancement ever?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I mean ever?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Good God, the guy who the guy who invented the
first plow that was drawn by an ox, everybody who
planted seed with a shovel must have been screaming, Oh,
this is gonna take away our jobs.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's gonna take away our jobs.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
About this one, John, I believe your daughter is in
college and can probably talk to you whenever she wants.
My parents gave me a prepaid phone card to use
so that I wouldn't have to pay long distance charges.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh, I remember those cards.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I only talked to my mom once or twice a
month because those prepaid cards didn't have a lot of time.
Do you remember MCI and the cut rate long distance
charges they offered or having to drop off film to
be developed. Then one hour processing was a rage for
a while, those photo employees moved on due to advanced technology.
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What kind of world does Elizabeth Warren and Josh Holly
and Bernie Sanders and so many in our Colorado legislature
want for us? They want us to live in squalor.
Right while they're living the life of the elite, we
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get to live in squalor. How many more drug advances
will we have medical advances thanks to AI?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Anyway? Do you support a robot tax? Do you support
taxing large.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Corporations because they don't pass their costs onto us whenever
they replace a human with a machine. You see, when
any entity, a human being or a business finds efficiency
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and therefore makes more money, what do they do with it?
What do they do with that extra money? Do they
hoard it and put it into the pillowcase and sleep
on it?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Chances are they use that money to invest, They build more.
Amazon gets a new fulfillment center. I love that term.
It's not a warehouse, no.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
No, no, it's it's a fulfillment center.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And that fulfillment center is more efficient, so they have
to build another one, which means they have to hire
construction guys. A rich guy makes more money, what does
he do at the very least he sticks it in
his bank account.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And then that bank loans it out so other people
can work? All right?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Three or three seven, one, three, eight, two five five?
Will AI take your job? Maybe? Are you worried about it?
Tell me I'm John calder and for the big guy,
keep it here.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
You're on six thirty Khow again the irony to socialists
wanting to prevent AI as they want everything to be
a human right healthcare, food, housing, But somebody's got to
build that, and since nobody's entitled to somebody else's labor,
that can never be unless, of course, you had ultra
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smart robots able to build all that stuff, and then
we might be able to argue for human right.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I hear about rights all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
The left says people have a right to food, a
right to housing, a right to medical care. That's insane.
You see, rights cannot be dependent upon other people's labor. Hey,
I'm John Caldera at seven minutes to the top here
on six thirty k.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
How so you have a right to free speech.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It doesn't mean you have a right for other people
to buy you a public address system or a radio station.
You have a right to keep in bare arms. It
doesn't mean you can force other people to buy you
a gun. But yet socialists believe that you have a
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right to housing, which means they in power have a
right to steal money from other people to build you
a house.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
They say you.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Have a right to medical care, which in their mind
means they have the power to steal money from others
and give it to you. So let's say you are
alone on a deserted island. You still have the right
to free speech. You still have the right to religion.
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But think about this.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
If there's no one else to do the work, no
one else creating enough, who's going to provide for you
your right to healthcare, your right to housing, your right
to food, Nobody, You don't have that right if it is.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Dependent upon the labors of others.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Without slavery then or to be stealing, you have none
of those new rights
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Guys, wait a minute, this is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
Oh I thought it was just Breast Awareness Month, which
I thought was silly because I'm always aware.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh, men are so wonderfully easy.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Aren't we. I'm John Caldera and for the big Man.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I tell the women in my life I know this,
and they don't believe me.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Men are simple.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
If we're not thinking about food, we're thinking about sex.
If we're not thinking about sex, we're thinking about food.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You can draw the X.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Y access Somewhere along that line is where our minds
are at.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And that's it. That's really just it.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You find a woman who will give you a sand
which during love making, we die of happiness.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's just that easy. We've got nothing else. Marry me,
you marry me. It's a pastra? What did George castand
to say?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I've always thought pastrami was the most erotic of all
the dried meats? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It is?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It is no broad day as a It's also Columbus Day,
isn't Is it Columbus Day?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
What day is today?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Indigenous People's Day? Oh god, God, Indigenous People's Day. But
don't worry, you don't get the day off for.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That one, yes, but I can't go to the bank.
We don't get mail. That's true. You know why when
is the holiday?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
When is the holiday where government workers and banks have
to go to work but the rest of us get
it off.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
When is that day?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
This is just an inconvenience for everybody else day. If
you've got kids in a public school, government school, you
got to find out daycare for them. You need to
get your business done. Well, the mail doesn't come. You
can't get to the bank. No, I imagine is a
stock market closed up at? The stock market's closed too?
I want I want to day. That is like Taxpayers Day.
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On Taxpayers' Day, taxpayers get the day off and government
workers have to work for free. Of course we'll say
they're doing that right now. They're doing that right now,
real quick.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Not quite as good sounding, but still delicious.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's also a national eminem day. It's National what day Eminem?
Like the candies? Eminem's very cool, very cool.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
All right, let's get to this.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I got some other channel in my ear, all right,
three oh three seven one three eight two five five
seven to one three talk in any event, Sorry, I
had to go yell at something. Bernie Sanders is planning
to introduce an artificial intelligence legislation. Hmmm, that he is
(03:24):
proposing a robot tax. Oh good god man. He is
proposing a robot tax on large corporations that replace workers
with AI or automation. He told the Washington Examiner that
(03:44):
he plans to introduce a robot tax, among other AI
related items.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Not today, he said, but we will. What does that mean.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It means he's a crazed socialist, and as a crazed socialist,
he wants something he cannot describe. Not tomorrow, but we will.
How in the world are you going to outlaw robots?
(04:17):
How are you going to tax them? Let's keep in mind,
let's just go backwards in time. Technology is disruptive. It's
what technology does. And when technology disrupts the market, people
are displaced. Workers are displaced, and that's called an economic
(04:39):
terms creative destruction. Why do they call it creative destruction
because economists don't know how to talk to humans and
apparently they don't need any real friends, so they come
up with terms like rent seeking and creative destruction and
moral hazards instead of just speaking English. So if you're
(05:00):
old like me, you remember things like, oh, I don't
know travel agents.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Do you remember travel agents?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You wanted to go someplace, you'd call somebody on the
phone and go, I'd like to go somewhere. And they
spent about twenty minutes tapping on a keyboard and then
they get you a ticket after they told you what
this would cost or what that would cost, or if
you went on.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
This day, and now what do you do?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
You book your own tickets and it saves you gobs
of money. Would your life be better off if if
you didn't have that, if you had to go back
and deal with deal with a human being. No, technology
(05:53):
always disrupts. What about those people who lost their jobs
making buggies or horse whips for people who used their
buggies because buggies were those little trailers pulled by a horse.
And then that god awful Henry Ford came here with
(06:14):
this technology of an assembly line and Americans could afford
their own cars. If Sanders was around, there would be
an extra tax for that assembly line because it's putting
buggy manufacturers out of work. Well, AI is going to
(06:37):
disrupt everything, just like the Internet disrupted everything. Just like
before that, computers disrupted everything. Dislike the assembly line disrupted everything,
and communications disrupted everything, and good god, once we had
a radio, once you could radio. Oh somebody, what about
(07:02):
those poor telegraph operators and then guys who put up
the wires. Technology allows people to leapfrog.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You know, for years we thought, what are we gonna
do with poor poor nations? You know, how are they
going to get their technology? You know, they need communications.
We need to run phone lines to them.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No, we don't. What ended up happening.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Instead of taking a small town in Africa and running
copper lines to everyone's little shack, we ended up having
cell phones, and cell phones leapfrogged. And now that whole
mess of running copper lines isn't necessary. It's not necessary
(07:57):
because technology came and liberated those people. Starlink is now
liberating people who are in remote areas to connect them
to fast internet service. It's incredible technology has done that.
(08:19):
Robots have been building our cars and our appliances, making
them affordable.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know the beautiful thing about a robot.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It doesn't take Columbus day I'm sorry, Indigenous people's day off.
It continues to work. It doesn't take maternity leave or
paternity leave. It doesn't have sick days, it doesn't go
on strike.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's productive.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Senator Elizabeth Warren said, quote, I'm concerned about people losing
their jobs to AI, to offshoring.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And all the other ways.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
At a handful of billionaires figure out they can rake
off all the profits from whatever work gets done.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Are you.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Why do we vilify successful people. I've never understood it.
And by the way, Elizabeth, I know it's Native Americans Day,
so it's your day, and I don't want to bother
you on it. But is your life better because of
(09:41):
those awful billionaires and what they've created?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Is your life better?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Are you able to order things on Amazon and have
it delivered right to your door in the midst of
a COVID lockdown?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Are you able to have co unications and an iPhone
in your pocket so you can complain about capitalism as
you try to drive it into the ground all those awful,
awful billionaires who have liberated you. See, the thing about
(10:21):
wealthy people is in order to become wealthy, they have
to provide a value proposition. They have to give something
to consumers that improves their lives.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
They have to give us fuel.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
To warm our homes, airplanes to fly, and c our relatives,
medicines to keep us alive. These are good things, These
are wonderful things.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
AI is disruptive.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Lots of people will lose their jobs because of technology,
just like lots of people have always lost their jobs.
Three h three seven one three eight two five five
seven one three talk. Let me, let me go a
little farther. There was a time when ninety five percent
(11:21):
of America's population was involved in farming and agriculture, particularly
labor intensive. You had to plow the soil by hand,
or if you were lucky, you got a horse that
could pull the plow. Now, all of our food, all
(11:47):
of our food, let me say it again, all of
our food comes from about two to three percent of
the population.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Why is that possible? How is that possible?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
If it were up to communists like Elizabeth Warren and
Bernie Sanders, we would have punished all the technology that
liberated us from the toil of working in fields pulling
potatoes out of.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
The ground by hand.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
We now have tractors that first ran on steam.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Think about that.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
They had to keep putting coal and wood into those
things and keep them full.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Of water so that they could plow the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Now they have huge combines and all sorts of technologies
to plow the fields, to fertilize the fields, to seed
the fields, to harvest the.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Fields, and bring it to a king soupers near you.
What did that.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Technology did that? What will what will AI do? I
don't know. Will it replace what I am doing right
now talking into a phone, talking into a microphone, talking into.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Two people? It could. It could.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
People might be able to program their own commentators any
way they like, and you'll always have somebody to agree
with you. I don't know what AI is going to bring,
but it is going to disrupt a lot of jobs, and,
by the way, provide us all sorts of advantages. The
(13:37):
ability to be able to do research faster, to do
modeling of drugs faster, to look for the most efficient
ways to get any production done, faster, to write our
entertainment faster, to write our code for more programs faster.
(14:00):
Story continues. Senator Josh Howley, perhaps the most populous Republican
in the Senate, said he would also be open to
discussions about, you know, stopping technology. I think we need
to consider, he said, everything we can to figure out
how we protect workers' rights. What about consumers' rights? What
(14:24):
about free speech rights? Because isn't AI, after all, just
free speech? What do I mean by that? I mean
it's code. People are sitting down tapping out things onto
a computer and creating something. Because they write something, it's
(14:47):
free speech.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Josh Holly continues. So I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I'm assuming Bernie Sanders about this or seenis proposal, but
I'd be open to discussing anything.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I like Senator Rick Scott from Florida.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Quote, I think if it's called a tax, I'm against it.
I haven't supported a tax since I got elected in
twenty ten. Likewise, Senator Johnson of Wisconsin says he wants
to simplify and rationalize the tax code.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
He also said concerns about jobs being taken are overblown,
noting that the United States labor force has undergone several
changes over the years. It wasn't that many decades ago,
he said, where the high percentage of Americans that were
farmers now less than ten percent, it's actually less than
(15:53):
like three percent. That's actually a good thing. It's called productivity,
all right. So if this doesn't happen, on a federal level.
It is happening on a state level. In the last
session before last the Colorado legislature passed a bill regulating AI,
(16:17):
a ridiculous bill, a spectacularly buffoonish bill, and our tech
friendly governor signed it. It allows the state to regulate
and look at AI to make sure it doesn't quote discriminate,
that it's not used in discrimination.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
What does that mean? No one really knows.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But it creates these ridiculous, ridiculous oversight of AI. It
will chase AI out of Colorado. Now, I really want
to know what happened behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I know.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Jared Polis, Jared Polus, no matter what I think of
most of his policies, is technologically remarkably savvy. Guy made
his business in tech. He doesn't want this, and he
knows it's going to be bad for Colorado. So in
the special session he brought up AI in hopes of
(17:26):
redoing that bill. He knew it's a bad bill, he
knows it's going to stifle Colorado. He couldn't get a
fixed to it passed, and it was going to go
into effect this February.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
He did get a short delay the.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
New law, which basically outlaws AI development in Colorado, and
maybe even the use of AI in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Will be delayed until the end of the next session.
Will they fix it? Should there be a robot tax? John?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
My grandfather used to work for Bell Telephone, and do
you know that the Communications workers of America thought the
introduction of the dial telephone, claiming that would put all
the switchboard operators out of work? How many telephone workers
do you think we'd have today if we still had
to go through a switchboard?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
What a spectacular point.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Hey, I'm John KELDERA good morning thirty three minutes after
give me a call three h three seven to one
three eight two five five, or do a talkback or
give me a text in for the big man who's
out spending time with the grandkids. Well that's spectacular, I
mean for him, poor grandkids. What did they do wrong?
(18:45):
Bernie Sanders is promoting the idea of a robot tax.
I love that talkback? You remember switchboard operators.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
One ringy dinghy.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Lillie Tomlin's routine would not work today, would it. I
liked it when Andy Griffith would pick up that little
rotary phone and go, Mabel, get me Fox Hill seven
oh eight, those those were the days, weren't they. Oh
darn all that technology? Like what's in your pocket?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Think of it now.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
There are pluses and minuses, the plus, of course being
you have a super computer in your pocket, so many, many,
many times powerful then all the computers used to send
Man to the moon. You can change your stock portfolio,
(19:44):
you can change your flights, you can order food, you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Can buy anything you want.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You can ask it any question and it will give
you an answer. You can do anything with your smartphone.
It's a full fledged computer connected to the world.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You can for free have a video.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Conversation with anyone around the world. This is some serious
Jetson's kind of crap, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You remember the idea.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Back back in what was it nineteen sixty nine or something,
the two thousand and one movie, and the guy makes
a video call. He makes it, goes into a phone
booth like there'd still be phone booths, and he pays
thirty five dollars for a couple minutes talking to his
daughter back on Earth. As it turns out, there are
(20:48):
no phone booths and it doesn't cost anything.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Do you remember long distance charges?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You remember having to wait the weekend to talk to mom,
because you know it's cheaper on the weekend. Think of
what a phone company would have to do. They had
to keep track of every call you made and then
bill you seventy five cents a minute. And I remember
during the day it was something like seventy five cents
(21:18):
a minute to call long distance. Try to explain that
to your kids. If Bernie Sanders had his way, Mabel
would still be working at the switchboard, rolling around on
her little chair with her headset on and going, one moment,
(21:39):
I'll connect you, pulling a cord with a quarter inch
jack plug on the end of it and shoving it
into something else.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
To get the call routed.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Remember when we had a monopoly on phone service, because
phones are definitely a monopoly, how could they not be.
Now we've got gazillions of ways of communicating through the Internet,
through cable, through phone lines, over the air, through starlink,
(22:23):
their Wi Fi, through Bluetooth, and it keeps getting better.
God blessed technology. But communists don't want technology. They don't
want advancement. They want to keep people poor. They want
to stifle advancement. Why they say it's a very pro
(22:49):
human thing. It's not a pro human thing. It's it's
protection and it hurts everyone everyone. So let's see, we
(23:11):
used to have the Neighborhood five and dime, and then
Woolworsts came and put that out of business. And then
we look back at Woolworst's and think, oh, those were
the days we used to have the Sears Roebuck Catalog,
which for generations was the way America shopped, ordering things
(23:38):
by mail and waiting for the postal service to deliver
it months later. Well, now we have Amazon, and we
look back at those days with the Sears Roebuck catalog
with such such remarkable passion and romance. No nobody wants
(23:59):
to do it that way. You can order something and
get it delivered the next day, sometimes the same day,
Amazon will be will be taken over as well. You
had Walgreens taking over Woolworth's position.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Then you had.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Walmart taking over Walgreens and Woolworth's and the Neighborhood five
and dime, and the left screams, oh, that's terrible for
working people. Wait a second, Walmart allows people to buy
things at a much less cost. Who does that benefit
(24:49):
proportionally benefits the poor the most It makes their money
go further. They can afford a big screen TV. Now,
they can afford new underwear. They can afford it all
thanks to Walmart.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And then Walmart gets competition from Amazon. In the meantime.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yes, these people get very wealthy, but they get wealthy
because they add value. AI adds value, and AI is
nothing more than a much more sophisticated computer program. It
is a what they call a large language learning model.
(25:32):
That is, the more it learns from all the information
out there, the better it gets at recognizing things. Have
you ever logged onto a website? And as part as
the verification of are you a robot? And asks you
(25:54):
please click the picture of a bicycle that shows you
twelve different photos and you have to click the ones
that you see a bicycle on that security to make
sure it's not a robot.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But also.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You're teaching robots what bicycles look like. You're teaching robots
what bicycles look like, so they're learning, they are learning.
I don't know where this AI revolution ends, but it
will be very disruptive. It will affect your job in
(26:35):
pluses and minuses.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Have you used chat GPT? Have you had it? Write
a letter? For you.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's ridiculous. I'm trying to use AI better. You know,
I'm an old dog trying to learn a new trick.
AI can proofread what you right, It can can suggest ideas.
It can create artwork. It can create songs. I've heard
(27:08):
many AI created songs, and they all sound what's the
best word, competent? Not great, but competent good enough for
background music. It can create art. What is your fear
with AI? That it'll take human jobs? Hasn't that been
(27:32):
the fear of every technological advancement ever?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I mean ever?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Good God, the guy who the guy who invented the
first plow that was drawn by an ox, everybody who
planted seed with a shovel must have been screaming, Oh,
this is gonna take away our jobs.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's gonna take away our jobs.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
About this one, John, I believe your daughter is in
college and can probably talk to you whenever she wants.
My parents gave me a prepaid phone card to use
so that I wouldn't have to pay long distance charges.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh, I remember those cards.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I only talked to my mom once or twice a
month because those prepaid cards didn't have a lot of time.
Do you remember MCI and the cut rate long distance
charges they offered or having to drop off film to
be developed. Then one hour processing was a rage for
a while, those photo employees moved on due to advanced technology.
(28:49):
What kind of world does Elizabeth Warren and Josh Holly
and Bernie Sanders and so many in our Colorado legislature
want for us? They want us to live in squalor.
Right while they're living the life of the elite, we
(29:11):
get to live in squalor. How many more drug advances
will we have medical advances thanks to AI?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Anyway? Do you support a robot tax? Do you support
taxing large.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Corporations because they don't pass their costs onto us whenever
they replace a human with a machine. You see, when
any entity, a human being or a business finds efficiency
(29:54):
and therefore makes more money, what do they do with it?
What do they do with that extra money? Do they
hoard it and put it into the pillowcase and sleep
on it?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Chances are they use that money to invest, They build more.
Amazon gets a new fulfillment center. I love that term.
It's not a warehouse, no.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
No, no, it's it's a fulfillment center.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And that fulfillment center is more efficient, so they have
to build another one, which means they have to hire
construction guys. A rich guy makes more money, what does
he do at the very least he sticks it in
his bank account.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And then that bank loans it out so other people
can work? All right?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Three or three seven, one, three, eight, two five five?
Will AI take your job? Maybe? Are you worried about it?
Tell me I'm John calder and for the big guy,
keep it here.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
You're on six thirty Khow again the irony to socialists
wanting to prevent AI as they want everything to be
a human right healthcare, food, housing, But somebody's got to
build that, and since nobody's entitled to somebody else's labor,
that can never be unless, of course, you had ultra
(31:25):
smart robots able to build all that stuff, and then
we might be able to argue for human right.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I hear about rights all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
The left says people have a right to food, a
right to housing, a right to medical care. That's insane.
You see, rights cannot be dependent upon other people's labor. Hey,
I'm John Caldera at seven minutes to the top here
on six thirty k.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
How so you have a right to free speech.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It doesn't mean you have a right for other people
to buy you a public address system or a radio station.
You have a right to keep in bare arms. It
doesn't mean you can force other people to buy you
a gun. But yet socialists believe that you have a
(32:23):
right to housing, which means they in power have a
right to steal money from other people to build you
a house.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
They say you.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Have a right to medical care, which in their mind
means they have the power to steal money from others
and give it to you. So let's say you are
alone on a deserted island. You still have the right
to free speech. You still have the right to religion.
(32:57):
But think about this.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
If there's no one else to do the work, no
one else creating enough, who's going to provide for you
your right to healthcare, your right to housing, your right
to food, Nobody, You don't have that right if it is.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Dependent upon the labors of others.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Without slavery then or to be stealing, you have none
of those new rights
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