10-14-25 - 7am - Ryan Schuiling Filling In - Dinesh D'Souza and Hostages Returned

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The unmitigated gall for Biden and Blincoln to take partial
credit for getting the hostages released today. The fact is
Trump used Teddy Roosevelt's diplomatic groundwork of speak softly and
carry a big stick.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
The b two bombers.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
That is such a key element.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
I brought this up with Dan Camplis yesterday, Ryan Shuling
filling in for Michael Brown on the situation along with
Dragon Redbeard, and that is the taking out of the
nuclear facilities of Iran was tantamount to this deal getting done.
It was the stick and the carrot and stick approach.

(00:41):
Speaks softly, carry the big stick. You got to show
that you're willing and able to do what Trump did,
that he's a little bit of a wild card, and
that he'll do it again.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
And Iron certainly feared that.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
And they were the ones bankrolling supporting Hamas and Amas
just ran out of options on the chessboard.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
They were checkmated, and that's what happened there.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
This was pressure from the outside, from the Qataris, the Saudi's,
those in the region that would have interest maybe different
from Israel's, but this couldn't be made to look like
an American endeavor.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Solely and it was not.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
It was a collective effort that Donald Trump spearheaded and won.
And that leads to this conversation with Denish de Suza.
The movie The Dragon's Prophecy. It is now available for
streaming online. That is the website. It was in theaters
last week, including right here in Colorado. It is now
available to stream online The Dragon's Prophecy and joining us

(01:40):
the executive producer, creator of that film and many others
that you no doubt have watched over the last several years.
Densh de Suza proud to have him as our guest. Densh,
thank you for your time. As always, Hey, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
My pleasure delighted with this new film, which seems to
fit so well into occurrent and the film in a
way tries to see things from the widest perspective, in
other words, not just the political, but also the spiritual
and the biblical.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
And to your point, Danesh, when you started production on this,
there's no way you could have anticipated it lining up
almost exactly with the events of what we've seen over
this last week, with this unprecedented success by President Trump
in striking a peace deal in the Middle East, a
ceasefire in Gaza, return of the hostages.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Those who were alive.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
There were only twenty remaining, all of the male, none
of them female. And he had this to say today,
speaking before the Kanesse, the chamber of the Legislature in Israel.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
This is not only the end of a war. This
is the end of the age of terror and death
and the beginning of the age of faith and hope,
end of God. It's the start of a grand conquord
and lasting harmony for his and all the nations of
what will soon be a truly magnificent region. I believe

(03:06):
that so strongly. This is the historic dawn of a
new Middle East.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
And the nation.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Not only is that true, I think this permanently rebukes
any criticisms of him that we have heard, you and
me both of Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler. It's so ridiculous.
He's the exact opposite of that. He is a peacetime president.
He's a president four piece. He is stout now eight
wars in just over eight months in office. It's an

(03:34):
incredible feat and accomplishment.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Here.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm just wondering from your perspective, dnsh and making this film.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
The end of this wars.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
We hope that this is what that means for the region,
and the fact that President Trump was the one to
broker this deal.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think Trump's genius is to see possibilities where other
people don't see it. In my adult lifetime, I've lived
through you the Nixon Plan and the Carter Plan, the
Clinton Plan. So many people have made attempts and yet
they haven't really even gotten very much off the ground.
It's almost like Trump comes in with a different perspective.

(04:13):
The perspective really more of like a real estate developer.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
He looks at the rubble in.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Gaza and he goes like, this is not good. You know,
we need buildings here, We need prosperity, we need people
in suits going to work, and we need maybe a
Trump hotel. And the other thing about Trump is that
he understands the importance of bringing in the other Muslim countries,
the Saudis and the Gulf Kingdoms and the United Arab

(04:41):
Emirates and so on, so that this is not perceived
to be some kind of an American reign over Gaza
or Israeli supervision over a kind of reluctant population of Gaza,
but rather it is an international setup to offer these
people who have endured war in bloodshed a better path. Now,

(05:03):
if the Bible is to be believed, it's difficult to
solve these problems permanently, and maybe that won't happen till
the end of time. But it's not to say that
in the meantime you cannot make intermediate progress and try
to at least get things to simmer down from a
terrible war that has reached a lot of havoc over
the last two years.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Denish Desuza our guest.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
His film The Dragon's Prophecy now available online for streaming,
and it covers the events and the aftermath of October seventh,
twenty twenty three into nsh This film has a strong
thread line of spirituality in it. The foundations of the
religions of the world, really the three most major religions
of the world in the Muslim faith, but then also

(05:48):
Judeo Christian roots. You talk about that a bit with
Mike Kakabee, who is now the ambassador to Israel. You
speak about it, I think quite eloquently in this film.
And how I want to tie that all together with
President and Trump is I think we've seen a renewed
and perhaps a new spiritual purpose in our president since
the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, and where he sees not.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Only his place in the world, but his place in
all of time.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
How much do you think that perspective that he's gained
from them may have contributed to his ability to see
the bigger picture?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
As you stated, I think that Trump his mind is
in many ways very secular. He looks at things kind
of like, you know, what is the probability that my
head could have turned in a slightly different direction than
he almost gives it like casino odds. So he doesn't
start out at the spiritual, but I think he realizes

(06:43):
that he has lived through such improbable events that something
bigger must be at work. And I think something bigger
actually is at work. We see in the Bible a
number of cases where where God in a sense uses
and directs figures, even figures who aren't particularly religious on
their own, but nevertheless they are moved into sort of

(07:04):
this larger unfolding plot of biblical history and even biblical prophecy.
And I think Trump is looming as one of those
sort of biblical sized figures, larger than life, who is
bringing about remarkable changes in a region that is, as
you say, the most religiously contested region on planet Earth.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
The Dragons prophecyfilm dot com. That's the website where you
can find a Denesh Desuza our guest. Kind of a
two part question here, Denish, because you have been in
the news recently and I've been applauding your remarks because
I come at this from a very similar angle. I
believe as you do, and that is unequivocal, unwavering support
for Israel and that we wouldn't even think to question

(07:46):
that based on our shared roots, heritage, our shared interest,
the alliance that is therein And we've seen the anti
Semitism on the left on college campuses, and I think
I've talked to you about that as well in the past,
but there's this new uprising and I'm not sure what
the genesis of this is. Pun intended with the likes
of pandas Owans, Tucker Carlson, and you've taken them to

(08:07):
task about some of the things that they've said about
Israel and about the Jewish people. What was your main
point in focus there and why did you feel was
important to.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Say, Well, it's important because it is. What they're doing
is they are fracturing the Trump coalition, the Maga coalition.
I think they're ultimately hurting the interests of the United States,
and they are helping the two worst groups in the world,

(08:38):
which is the cultural left on the one hand, and
on the other hand, these radical Jihadis. And those two groups,
by the way, are in a kind of strange bedfellow's
alliance with each other. This might seem really odd because
neither group can fit comfortably in the other group's world.
They have very different end goals, but nevertheless they're united

(09:00):
in a kind of common hatred. And who do they hate. Well,
they hate on the one hand the Jews and Israel
and on the other hand, Christians and the West. So
it seems to me strategically obvious that Jews and Christians
need to come closer together in a united front against
these sort of diabolical foes. And that's why it's particularly

(09:22):
exasperating and dismaying to see people on our own side.
I mean, I kind of understand why the left behaves
the way it does because they're allied with the Jihadis,
but for people on our side to essentially drive a
wedge between America and Israel to try to imply that
there's something about Christianity that involves sort of kicking out
the Old Testament, as if we don't need God the Father,

(09:44):
we only need God the Son and God the Holy Spirit,
reducing the Trinity from three to two. I mean, all
of this seems to me politically absurd, blasphemous, bad on
so many different counts that I felt almost like morally
obliged to speak out very stridently about it.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
And Denish Desuza really paints a wonderful picture of that juncture,
that joining together of the Judeo Christian value system of
our history, that shared heritage, as Densh mentions the Old Testament,
the New Testament derives from it. I know that Mike Huckabee,
who's a reverend himself, believes in that as well. And

(10:22):
you can find out more about the film once again
online the Dragon's Prophecyfilm dot com. Den That's just one
more question about our current political climate and that maybe
a daylight today can help lower the temperature a bit
because of what President Trump has been able to accomplish.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
But I want to get your reaction to what.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Happened a month ago with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
You are a prominent voice on the right as well.
You are labeled by the left as a conspiracy theorist,
as a far right extremist, and I think these labels
are harmful and that they may make you a target
in a similar way. What was your reaction to the
death of Charlie Kirk, what the motive might have been
behind it, and what the left is doing to drive it.

(11:00):
Do you fear for your own personal safety if you
made adjustments to measures and how you conduct security for
yourself personally.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I used to do a whirlwind of campus touring for
really two decades, starting in the early to mid nineteen nineties,
but it was a safer time. There were showdowns and
students who would run out of the auditorium screaming, But
I've never really had to worry about being physically attacked,
let alone being shot in the next So it's a

(11:31):
mark of how much our public culture has become degraded.
I think it's also the case that you now have
these very violent Antifa and trans networks. They actually train
for violence, and they have an ideology that makes them
very susceptible to it. The ideology is that they are
fighting fascism. The other side, the Republicans and the Christians

(11:53):
are fascists, and they have a right to do quote.
They have a right to oppose them by any means necessary.
So the shooter in a way is simply, in a
way following through on this kind of a debased logic.
I do think that I was a Charlie's funeral right
up there in the front, and I did feel that
there was a spirit of revival, of invigoration, of restoration.

(12:17):
And I think that this film, The Dragon's Prophecy fits
into that mood very well, because while it takes you
into some dark places October seventh in a sense that
even unfurls the Devil's Handbook, the devil is the Dragon,
by the way in the title of the film. Ultimately
the film leaves you, I think, on a note of
being spiritually uplifted. And so I think people who watch

(12:40):
this film will come out very invigorated.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
As I am after all of the Neschasus's films. I
feel invigorated. I could tell from the trailer and then
also the content of this and it's woven so nicely
in a storytelling manner about the history of the religioncy
in that region and why the conflict exists in the
first place, and what the long term ramifications are for

(13:04):
what he could not predict, Denesh could not predict, and
that is the Trump peace accord that has just been struck. Now, Danish,
I did want to get you to respond to something
that Christian Amanpur from CNN said today. This is making
some headlines and because of your background and knowledge now
having accumulated from making this film, what your response is

(13:24):
to her characterization of how Hamas treated the hostages here.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
And I think for sure people who start to talk
to the hostages have only just been released, will find
that it will take a long long time for them
to recover physically, but also mentally. It's been a terrible,
terrible two.

Speaker 7 (13:43):
Years for them because not only are they there, you know,
they're probably been treated better than the average Gasen because
they are the pawns and the chips that Hamas had.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Now Hamas has given up all its leverage, by the way,
by giving them all up, so that is a victory.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
May she not be wrong and that these high messages
de Nash were treated better than the average gasin by Hamas.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
A very strange thing to say. She's quite right that
the Gosans don't value the lives of their own people.
I was thinking the other day, you know, why is
it the case that Israel has never taken any hostages?
And of course you might say, well, Israel is better,
they don't do things like that. But the real answer
to that the question is simply this Israel doesn't take

(14:28):
hostages because it wouldn't do them any good. Imagine if
you grabbed a bunch of Palestinian women and children, Hamas
would say, go ahead and kill them. We don't really care.
So there's a sense in which Christian Amanpur is right,
But I think that makes a different point than the
one she's trying to make. The real point to make
is that Hamas doesn't really care about its own people

(14:48):
and is perfectly happy to sacrifice them really for nothing.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
The Dragon's prophecyfilm dot com. That's the website where you
can find it. You can stream it now. Was in
theaters last week. Danesh Desuza, our guest denessh whenever you
put a film like this together, I like to ask
you the question in retrospect, what you really found out afterward?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
That you didn't know going in.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
You might have some ideas going in of what you
think you might encounter, but what really jumped off the
film for you that you witnessed, that you encountered in
putting this all together, well, I've.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Made a bunch of films, and they have by and
large and political and historical. This film moves into the
realm of the spiritual and even the prophetic. So I've
always had difficulty with the idea of being able to
forecast events before they even occur. And yet the Bible
is full of the sort of stunning predictions such as

(15:44):
the Jews will be scattered to the ends of the earth,
and then they will come back, and not just come
back together again, They'll come back to the same land
that they left, they will restore their language, they will
eat the same food, they will worship the same God,
and all of this extra the really improbable type of
prediction then comes to pass in nineteen forty eight. So

(16:05):
the Bible sort of has its own sort of timetable
of unfolding events. And it also suggests this idea of
a world behind the world, in which the things we
see in front of us actually a reverberation of larger
forces of good and evil, and so all of this
I think has captivated me greatly, and I think that

(16:25):
that sense of mystery and wonder and spiritual profundity is
in this film. Many people have said it's my most
spectacular and most profound film, I think, but this is
the reason. The topics that it covers are inherently that way.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
The Dragon's Prophecy the name of the film, and you
can find it online at the dragonsprophecyfilm dot com. Final question, Nnash,
because I've always been fascinated with your story, with your background.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
What brought you to America.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
You served in the Reagan administration, You've been a lifelong
conservative voice. And how you might compare and contrast the
greatness of Donald Reagan? That was he was my favorite
president to what we are experiencing now with President Trump.
Maybe not a true conservative in every stripe, but you
cannot deny his accomplishments, his achievements.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
How would you compare and contrast those two.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
They're both larger than life figures. I think Reagan dominates
the second half of the twentieth century in much the
same way that FDR dominates the first half of it. Clearly.
Trump emerges initially as a kind of anti Obama. Obama
sets his plan in motion to remake America. He has

(17:38):
two terms to do it. He tries to extend that
through Biden, but Trump is his great nemesis. But Trump
is now rising above all that and proving to be
a massive figure in his own right and clearly the
dominant figure so far up the twenty first century. So
I think it's difficult to do a verdict on Trump
until he finishes his two terms, because you need a

(17:59):
little bit of that retrospective to be able to do that.
But I think it's quite clear he's proving to be
a massively consequential president and cementing his place in the
annals of American.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
History, especially with the accomplishments over this last week or
so and punctuated today by his appearance in front of
the Kanesse and freeing the hostages Hamas was basically cudgeled
into doing so. And now there is a piece. Will
it be a lasting piece, We will see. But very
few presidents could have done, and in fact none have

(18:31):
done what President Trump just did. The Dragons prophecyfilm dot
com is where you can find his film The Dragon's Prophecy.
Always a fascinating conversation. Danesh Jsuza, thank you so much
for your time and for all you do.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Absolutely, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
An update on the Christian amanpur bite that went over like.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
A lead balloon when we come back after this time out.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Also my conversation from last week with comedian Michael Rapaport,
who's been a strong pro Israel voice out there, much
to his own detriment in his own career. Ryan Schuling
filling in for Michael Brown, this is the situation without him.

Speaker 8 (19:05):
You wake up and you're reminded how bad the Colorado
economy is. We have businesses, especially restaurants closing. You try
to drive on the road and it's horrible with all
the potholes out there, and we're not a safe city.
But thank god, Governor Polus is learning the lyrics to

(19:28):
the Bad Buddy songs so he can sing along at
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 (19:34):
I'm a little shocked he doesn't already know some I
am disappointed that he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
And Alexa, thanks for pointing that out, because I'm trying
to think of the last Jared Polish post on social media, specifically,
x that did not get ratioed into the sun, meaning
he has four more, far more comments replying to his
post than retweets or likes or whatnot. So yeah, out

(20:00):
of surprise, the guy's awkward. And it continues with the
bad bunny stuff you can text in at three three
one zero three.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Dragon.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
I was thinking, even if you don't see the film
are interested in it, if there was swag that just
said the dragon's prophecy on like a T shirt, that
that'd be something you could and should wear from densh.

Speaker 9 (20:21):
To Suez's film, and I liked. I did go to
his website and looked at it. I really like the
image of the dragon too. It's a very I'm more
partial to the medieval style of dragons or the Asian
style of dragon. It just it feels much more imposing
and powerful. And then yeah, I don't want to be
on the side of the dragon on this one, but
dragon is cool and.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
It would be your prophecy and people would assume that
by watching you wear that shirt to some more texts
at three three one zero three. Why is everyone blaming
tariffs for the drop in the stock market? They don't
think the government shutdown has anything to do with it.
Probably does. It's gonna be short term. These things are
generally resolved. All government workers will get their back pay.

(21:02):
That is, unless the Schumer shutdown continues, and in the
midst of it, the President of the United States makes
executive decisions to cut a lot of the leftist programs
and departments and employees that have infiltrated our government and
our three letter agencies and the deep state.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Might be a pruning time for the government. I would
be a okay with that.

Speaker 9 (21:23):
How much longer do you think the shutdown is going
to go?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
They'll resolve it before the end of the month.

Speaker 9 (21:28):
You think, oh, yeah, Okaycause my own personal belief I
have nothing to base this on is I think they
want to create the longest again shut down under Trump.
I mean the first one was what thirty seven days
in his first term, and so I'm thinking they're probably
going to do something like this and then see, look,
President Trump's such a bad president. He's had two of
the longest government shutdowns ever.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
They don't have the facts on their side, obviously, but
they don't have the narrative either, especially Trump with this
big w that you just posted over in Israel. Yeah,
there's that and ending that war. And then also they
could pass a clean bill a CR. The Republicans have
already gotten three Democrats to cross over. Catherine Cortez Mastow

(22:11):
in a purple state which is turning red, Nevada senator
there has already voted with the Republicans to pass the CR.
So has Angus King, an independent who caucuses with the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
In the purple state of Maine.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
So is John Fetterman, everybody's favorite Democrat in the Senate,
purple state. But a Democrat that actually makes sense after
having a stroke. That should tell you a lot right there.
So you go from fifty three to fifty six. They
need to peel off four more Democrats. And I told
you to who to watch out for on these In
the twenty twenty sixth election, John Oss office on the ballot.

(22:46):
He's a Democrat out of Georgia. That's a red state, Okay,
Biden wanted it was a fluke. They elected two senators
because the Republicans were ham handed and mishandled a special
runoff election there and both Warnock and.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Osoff got elected. It was a dister.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
But us Off, the more he stays on board with
this far left shut down. I think the worst his
chances are of getting reelected. And they were already pretty
slim to begin with. And Slim's about to leave town.
Slim and none. There you go, Patty, says Ryan, hearing
that the bodies of the hostages are not being released,
says to me, their bodies will show some horrible evidence

(23:22):
of their torture. Dragon, you made this point in a
reply that I see right there, that you think they
don't even know where the bodies are anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
That could be true.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
I have no evidence to support that, but you know,
when you spread the hostages out with normal you know,
Palestinian families, even a Al Jazeera reporter was holding a hostage.
So you shouldn't trust anything that they report over there
from that side, especially when a reporter was holding someone hostage.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
They don't even know where they are anymore. No, and
I wouldn't be surprised at Dragons exactly right.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
On that, Christian, and I'm on, poor, let's do it
before and after here they can't help themselves. I don't
know where this sympathy for terrorists lunatics comes from, but
she's got it. Well, baby, she's got it. Christian amen
por CNN from yesterday, and I.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Think for sure people who start to talk to the
hostages who've only just been released will find that it
will take a long long time for them to recover
physically but also mentally. It's been a terrible, terrible two
years with them.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
Because not only are they there, you know, they're.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
Probably been treated better than the average Garsen because they
are the pawns and the chips that Hamas had. Now
Hamas has given up all its leverage, by the way,
by giving them all up, So that is a victory
for the Israeli side.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
If those hostages were treated better than the average Gasen
by Hamas, I would hate to see how the average
Gosen is treated. And of course this came completely firing
back on Amanpour and she took time yesterday to issue
this half hearted, if that apology of sorts.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Now earlier live on air, I spoke about what a
day of real joy this is for Israeli families whose
loved ones are finally being returned from two years of
horrific Hamas captivity, and for civilians in Gaza who finally
had reprieved from two years of brutal and deadly war.
I noted that for the hostages who are finally home,
it'll take a long time for them to recover mentally

(25:22):
and physically. But I regret also saying that they might
have been treated better than many Gazans, because Hamas used
these hostages as pawns and bargaining chips. But that was
insensitive and it was wrong. From speaking to many former
hostages and their families. Like everyone, I've been horrified at
what Hamas has subjected them to over two long years.

(25:44):
They've told me as You've just heard their stories of
barely being able to breathe in the tunnels, not being
allowed to cry, being starved and made to dig their
own graves. And of course today some of the hostages
are coming back in body bags.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
And all of the women Christiaanhan, this supposed champion of
women worldwide, You kidding me? These women were brutally raped, tortured,
and eventually killed. Why so they couldn't live to tell
the tale of the horrors that they endured. That her
mind would even go there in the first place. There's
a process here. You have a thought, and you don't

(26:19):
necessarily give voice to that thought. But let's say you
have a thought and it's ridiculous. It makes its way
from your brain to your mouth and out onto live television.
That's what happened with Christian Amanpur. Are you buying the apology.
I'm not so sure that i am. But this comes
from two years of a media, including Christian Amanpour, that

(26:42):
has been carrying water equivocating on behalf of Hamas, trying
to draw some kind of counterbalance of well, they did
do the invasion and kill twelve hundred innes in Israelis,
but Israel's an oppressive regime and they're killing a bunch
of Powerstinian civilians wantonly willie nilly, which is false, which

(27:04):
is false, And it's that credence that you've given to
Hamas at all.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
They're a terrorist organization.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
They must be wiped off the map, they must be eliminated, destroyed,
they must be removed from power. There are no alternatives
in which Hamas is left empowering Gaza and we just
go about our merry way. No, but the media hasn't
covered it that way. And that is the fruit of
the poisonous tree right there. And it led to that
whatever you want to call it, apology, a time out

(27:34):
back wrapping up our number two. The situation with Michael
Brown continues without Michael Brown, Ryan Schuling filling in.

Speaker 10 (27:40):
After this, stay away from the political aspects and just
say bring the hostages home. It seems like a very
humanistic angle, something you can say without getting into the muck. Yeah,
and Hollywood just won't do it. Why can't they take
that very basic step.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (27:55):
I would accept bring the hostages home and free palaside.
I accept free pile sign and bring the hostages home.
You know, We've had two Oscars, two Grammy's, two Emmys
in the two years, and not one of the not
one person said it. And I don't understand it. I've

(28:16):
stopped trying to understand it or.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Figure it out.

Speaker 11 (28:18):
I don't try to debate, articulate, or convince specifically the
people in the show business community.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
These are my peers.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Michael Rappaport joining us live in studio last week. That
was Christian Toto, my good friend. Who you heard Hollywoodantoto
dot com about why celebrities won't just come out and
say that the basic decent thing. I mean, obviously bring
the hostages home. There's a darkness, and it's not just
Hollywood it's the mainstream media, but it's many that appear

(28:48):
on television. It's many that appear in movies. The Mark
Ruffaloes of the world. That guy, I mean, he's among
the worst. And Rapaport he names names in this conversation
as well, and he's paid a price professionally. He had
shows canceled in Royal Oak, Michigan. Of course, most of
you know about dearborn By now that has the highest

(29:10):
population of Muslim individuals in the United States per capita.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I've been there many times. There's a burger joint called
Miller's there.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Any of you that have been to Michigan or are
from there might know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It's a lovely community.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
It's where Henry Ford had his original assembly line for
Ford Motor Company in the early twentieth century. There's a
lot of history there. And Rappaport had a show canceled there,
had one canceled in Alabama, of all places, and he
told me there's because there were these kind of you know,
the libs really love doing this swatting stuff now where

(29:47):
they'll call the police and say, hey, there's been a
domestic dispute at such and such address.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
And he's got a gun he's threatening to use. It's fake,
totally fake, but they.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Call it in and now a swat team storms the
house on the impression that somebody is there with a gun.
On a lower level, that was happening, he said, at
the show in Alabama where there were protesters threatening to
come up and protest outside the comedy club, and the
owners like, we just don't want to deal with it,
and they never showed.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
It was a bluff, It was a bulk.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
But what I'm seeing now of late, people like Michael
Rappaport and I even saw Cheryl Hines last night on
with Jesse Waters. You might remember her from Curb Your
Enthusiasm with Larry David and she is married to RFK Junior.
And the heat that she has taken for supporting her
husband and the vitriol that he has taken from members

(30:39):
of his own family, that.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Is opened her eyes.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
I'm not going to say that Cheryl Hines has been
red pilled, but her eyes have been open to what
the left is capable of, and that darkness and.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
That evil, the anger that is rooted in the left.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Now you are pushing people who once agreed with you,
like Cheryl Hines, Michael Appaport, the list is long, even
Bill Maher of late You have watched, and it's not
that Bill Maher is a conservative or ever would be.
But when we come back, I'll have my conversation with
President Trump wink, and you'll hear in exchange that Bill

(31:17):
Maher had with William H.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Macy.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
And I don't think Macy's any conservative, But there is
a shift that's happening in Hollywood where they're looking at
Donald Trump and they're seeing him more as the person
that he is rather than the caricature. The left tried
to create more on the situation without Michael Brown after
this