10-16-25 - 9am - Chick Fil A and Shutdown Firings

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Sometimes it's hard to pick what you want for dinner,
especially when you want let's say, mac and cheese from
one restaurant and a steak from over here, and a
salad from that one restaurant, and then dessert from your
favorite dessert place. You don't want to have to drive
a bazilian places.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I feel that in my soul sometimes.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yes, And that's actually the great thing about like New
York is you can go one place for you know,
you could literally go one place for appetizer, er someplace
else for your main course, and someplace else for dessert,
and then you go for an after dinner drink or whatever,
and you know, all within walking the same block. Yeah,
all on the same block. Here's what I have on
the agenda. But don't get excited, because there was a

(00:45):
question raised in the last hour and I had to
know the answer.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
We could talk about I was planning to talk about
Marjorie Taylor Green because I think she's gone back crap crazy.
I mean, she's gone off the deep end. I was
going to talk about I was gonna do the hurricane
season story, but I'm going to hold off on that.
There is a couple of stories that I put together

(01:12):
about you know, I talk about tyranny and how tyranny
is really beginning to spread like that paint commercial over
the earth. Well, I have a couple of stories out
of Australia that I think are good examples that we're
always looking at the United Kingdom or France or Germany
to see how bad things are going. This one comes

(01:33):
out of Australia. Might do that some other time. There
is a movement going on in d C. I would
call it kabuki theater where all these women are all
upset because Speaker Johnson refuses to swear in a newly
elected congresswoman and all of the ladies on DC are

(01:55):
all upset about it. Got a story about uh Jared
Kushner and Steve Whitkoff and why they succeeded in what
they were doing behind the scenes to get the ceasefire
and the framework of a piece piece deal done in
the Middle East. That's that's a pretty in depth story.

(02:16):
Might hold off of that, and then I have do
you still have a talk back by chance? Dragon?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Which one?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
What about French fries?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh the du goober, I did? I don't have it
readily available.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Okay, but in that sence he said what.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
He said that, I am correct. They they have changed
the fries somehow or another, and when he requested to
get them crispy, they said no.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
That peaked my curiosity. I was telling Dragon as we
were walking to our little bathroom break together. It's so
sweet of us, you know, we go to the bathroom together,
we hold hands and skip, you know, to all that.
Actually he tries to make certain that he gets through
the door first so he can close the door. So

(03:07):
I've got to get my key card out so i
can get through the door. So he just makes my
life miserable.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Plus I want to pee in the urinal, not the toilet,
right right, Although I.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Noticed that down there, nobody aims.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
True.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's so disgusting, the third floor disgusting, you know. Come on.
So I decided artificial intelligence can be an amazing thing.
It goes way beyond Google or Duck duck go or
bing bing bing or whatever it is. It's really amazing.

(03:40):
Here's what I found out. Chick fil A changed its
fries in early twenty twenty five. What did they do?
They altered the coating on their signature wallfule potato fries,
and it now includes pa start no pea starch that

(04:05):
is a gluten free ingredient derived from yellow peas. Now,
according to a company statement, the goal was to make
the fries. Are you ready for this dragon go for
it quote stay crispier longer you failed, and maintain consistency
during transport and pickup time.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
You failed, You failed miserably.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
However, it goes on to say, oh boy, this adjustment
has produced widespread backlash.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Time to go back.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Many loyal customers report that the new fries are now drier, harder,
less flavorful, describing them as stale or graining, tasting like cardboard, mushy, soft,
just not the same version was now. This is interesting

(05:02):
because this shows how AI interpreted things differently. Or you're not.
You need to really double check and double check. The
previous version was softer and often slightly soggier, something fans
say they actually preferred. I never found them to be
what I would describe as softer or slightly soggy.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Now.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
They weren't like crispy crisp. They were like potato chips,
but they were crispy on the outside and kind of soft.
On the inside fluffy fluffy. They're also allergy concerns. Apparently,
pea starch can trigger reactions in people allergic to peas
or pea protein, which overlaps with some peanut allergies. This

(05:46):
has led some families with dietary sensitivities to stop eating
a chick fla altogether. In short, according to AI, chick
fla did not remove crispiness, it increased it.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
No, you didn't.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
The change was meant to make fries hold their crunch
longer Nope for takeout and delivery orders, but many fans
missed the softer, floppy texture of the original recipe or
calling for its return.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I had the same problem. Was it five six eight, however,
long years ago where they switched from the buttermilk ranch
to a garlic ranch, which on the surface sounds fantastic,
but the garlic ranch it's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
We used toe at chick Fla so much that I
was like, whatever the you know, like on their stupid app.
I was like, you know, a platinum Elite member or
something whatever it was, and now I'm just a regular member.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
They'd see you pull up in a drive through. You
we didn't even have to have roll down your window
or order. They were just like, all right, it's brown, yeah, yeah, goh,
you start preparing the orders.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Gone gone, And because oftentimes time would go and I
would go there for lunch, neat lunch there because it
was just close inconvenient. She loves the salads, and I
like the sandwiches, and of course the fries were always
an add on.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
It's always interesting because she would never order fries and
they eat half of mine.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
So with regard to asking for extra crispy or well done,
Chick fil A does not widely offer a special order
option for extra crispy fries, primarily because of operational inconsistency challenges.
According to multiple sources and employee reports, making fries extra

(07:33):
crispy or well done requires additional frying time, which slows
down the cooking process and disrupts the fast service model.
Chick fil A prioritize that's fine.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Wait.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Additionally, there's no standardized setting on the fryers to guarantee uniformity,
so extra crispy fries can result in inconsistent quality and
potential food safety concerns. What food safety.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Concerns that they're burned or done.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, I don't get it. These factors, combined have led
many Chick fil A locations and corporate policy to discourage
or to actually outright stop offering extra crispy fries as
a formal option.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Seriously, your Chick fil A, You're better than that.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Thank God. This is what I love about AI. Well,
you just have to keep Remember when I did the
grocery bag fee story. Yeah, that was based on I
bet at least twenty to thirty questions to an AI
platform about the money, where did the money go? How

(08:38):
is it spent? And then it would it would just
give me the facts and figures, and I would say, okay,
but in some of the figures might be because it
helps the environment. Okay, Well, explain to me how it
helps the environment. Now they've got to dig in to
find that. Oh, well, it's reduced landfill really by how much?
And then it's got it really And then every question
starts taking longer to answer because it's trying to Oh,

(09:02):
this guy's like serious. Now we got to find out
how do we prove or show or give him evidence
that work. Yeah, you go to show you my homework. Well,
that's kind of what I've done here, while Chick Fila
is indeed known based on a question. While Chick fil
A is indeed known for excellent customer service, the trade

(09:25):
off with extra crispy fry requests affects the speed, consistency,
and possibly health standards in busy restaurant environments. Some customers
have reportedly been told that extra crispy fries are not
allowed or available at specific locations because of these reasons. However,
some locations may still accommodate such requests depending on their operator.

(09:48):
There's a workaround of ordering fries well done, meaning they're
fried longer or twice to achieve extra crispiness, but many
stores are phasing out openly offering the choice in order
to maintain uniform service speed and quality. In some the
absence of official extra crispy order option reflects operational constraints

(10:08):
rather than a service flaw, as Chick fil A balances
customer satisfaction with fast, consistent the same food preparation. But
I wasn't satisfied. But can you still order fries well
done at Chick fil A? The answer you can sometimes
order fries well done at Chick fil A, which means

(10:29):
they are cooked longer to be extra crispy. However, this
option is not officially offered at all locations and depends
on the individual franchise or restaurant operator. Some Chick fil
A locations have stopped accommodating well done fry requests to
maintain cooking consistency, speed, and food safety standards. So whether
you can get well done fries varies by store, and

(10:51):
it's best to ask at the specific location if they
can make that adjustment for you.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I bet they would probably be more inclined to do
the crispy your fries if you went inside.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
And at other times other than when there's a line
waiting for.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
It outside of normal dining time.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, you go, not so you go at eleven o'clock
or one o'clock and stood between eleven and one. Are
you gonna try it?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Would you please post your picture of your extra crispy
fries on Instagram so see it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, right after my workout to dail now you should do.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
The fries first and then the workout video.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
That'll kill me.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Well, you don't have to, your dumb ass. You don't
have to eat the fries and then do the workout.
I just said, you can post the fries before you
post the workout video. Yeah, so people will think, oh look,
they'll think you'll be deceit deceptive, but they'll think, oh,

(12:01):
he ate fries and then he did his workout. What
a good little boy, dragon is.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
That's torturous though, it's torturous eating before you work out. Oh,
I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
What more do you wanna know about?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
M there? We do have a text here, uh, sixty
five ninety three? What's wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Mike?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
We actually like the new flavor of the waffle fries.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Okay, there's nothing wrong with that. I just like fry.
First of all, where's that text? What is it?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
It's a few down?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Hm, it's not smipping mina refreshed.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
He must have blocked him.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
No, I don't block anybody. I'd like to block the
guy in the nine one six area code. Oh I
know why I don't have any Internet all of a sudden.
What's with that?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
There's this other text here? Oh? Oh yeah, fifty five
sixty six Mike. In and out will take request for
extra crispy Been there done? That doesn't matter. In and
out fries, no matter how you make them, they're gross
the burgers are delicious, fries are not.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
You see, I'm one of those that I find I
find the fries not outstanding but certainly acceptable. But many
people absolutely hate in and out French fries.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
There's nothing there.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
What do you mean? There's nothing there.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
It doesn't taste like anything. They don't taste like anything.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
You're not old enough to remember when A and W
first came out became kind of a national chain. I'm
old enough to remember that, or at least I should
say I'm old enough to remember when it finally made
it to our little hometown and the fries were I
think made out of like you have dried milk. I
think it was like potato powder or something, and they

(13:57):
and they fried those things up, and I remember thinking
that it's kind of like, uh, one of the potato
chips in the two pringles. Yeah, they're kind of like pringles.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Can't call him chips because they're not because.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
They're not chips. If you look at the ingredients, there's oh, potato,
might be crisps at the bottom somewhere. That's all I
got on that. According to the liberal creed, Trump is
so bad that he ought to be brought up on
contrived charges and then throwing in jail to prevent him

(14:29):
from returning to the White House. But he already has.
But with the experience that he's gained, I think Trump's
proving himself not to be a good president as before,
but actually probably a great one.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
He is.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
He might go to shed a tear for the way
this makes the Marxist, the Leftist, the dummies on the
other side feel. Martin Sheen that's been reduced to a
shrieking wreck. You know. She tore into President Donald Trump
during a live MSNBC event on Monday, calling the President

(15:06):
the biggest nothing in the world, the big guy in
the White House, if he would take some personal advice.
You got to realize, sir, that you're the biggest nothing
in the world, said Sheen during this live event hosted by,
of course, none other than MSNBC's host Nicole Wallace. So
an old actor, you know of little used to society

(15:29):
accuses one of the most significant figures in US history
being in nothing, while with liberals, every accusation is what
it's really a confession. Tommy fall Indian Elizabeth Warren. She's
not taking Trump's unfolding greatness well either. She adapts as
best she can by ignoring his achievements, tweeting about the

(15:52):
release of the Israeli hostages held by Hamas without mentioning
the guy who made it happen. She wrote, for two
executive years, I have called for the return of the
hostages brutally kidnapped on October. This this, this is Fuxahnnas.
This is Elizabeth Warren, she tweeted day before yesterday. For

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two excruciating years, I have I, meaning she, I have
called for the return of the hostages brutally kidnapped on
October seventh and held in Goza. Today is a good day.
Surviving Israeli hostages are finally home and reunited, reuniting with
loved ones. I'm thinking of them and their families on

(16:40):
this joyful day. So jd Vance, who has a wicked
sense of humor quote tweets Elizabeth Warren and says, the
President told me that he did this on Indigenous People's Day.
In honor of you, Bam.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Marnie Michael, and Dragon, I hope you're both doing well today.
And Dragon, for our favorite jew Goober, you always play,
almost always play Hava Nagila about some.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Good Jewish rock music.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Like anything from Kiss about Detroit Rock City. When you're
gonna play something from the jew Googler, that's the thought.
I'm great, day, guess.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I like the idea. I would toss it back to
the jew goober as to what he wants his walk
up song to be.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Well, I'm gonna show my cultural ignorance here. What's the
relationship between Judaism and Kiss? Uh? Their Jewish boys are
they really?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
They are?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I've never known that my entire life.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Same with the Beastie Boys.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
So the Beefy Boys, they're they're all Jewish. Yeah, Well do.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
You learn something every day, don't you, Michael?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
You get to be as old as I am, There's
there's still stuff to learn. Yeah, and now my life
is entirely different knowing that Kiss is a Jewish man.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
At one hundred and thirteen, you now know that Kiss
is Jewish, and the awful fries at Chick fil A
now suck.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
But we'll know, Bret, that we'll we know more about
their Chick fil A fries tomorrow or some other time.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh no, happily, huh. I will make a special trip
today to go get.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
To get try. You know, I really do appreciate I.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Will even go the extra mile and go into the
store and say, hey, can I get these extra because
act I completely understand going through the drive to the
let's let's keep this moving. But if I go in,
I'm happy to wait.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I understand why, even though it's my show, why you're
the favorite person on the show, because you so selflessly
of course, yeah, and without any self interest at all,
go above and beyond the call of duty to assu
as you finished today that you will go to Chick
fil A and go inside to order some fries. That's

(19:12):
the kind of dedication and lack of self interest that
most people would never show.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I am sacrificing my time and my money and potentially
my health and enjoyment of waffle fry for you.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Simply because we talked about freaking waffle fries so much.
So that's you're just stuck. You can't get it out
of your head. There's no choice now, So why don't
you stop A boy crumble cookie? You get a crumble
cookie on the way too.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Who's to say I don't have any at home right now,
but that's a really.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
How many of you down to in the freezer?

Speaker 1 (19:44):
By the way, I have four in the fridge.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Four in the fridge, I mean the freezer.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I have no idea good greed.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I'm beginning to believe that if Donald Trump announced the
that when he you know, finishes for the evening and
goes up, you know, he kind of walks down the hallway,
the Grand Hallway and in the East wing and gets
on the elevator and goes up to the residents and
says that he's going to have you know, a nice,
you know, quarter pounder with cheese, extra crispy fries probably,

(20:20):
and a diet coke, and then he and Malaney are
going to crawl in bed and you know, make passionate
love or whatever. I think there would be a federal
judge somewhere that would entertain a request for a temporary
restraining order to stop him from doing any of those things,
claiming that somehow it's unconstitutional, that it's outside the authority

(20:43):
of the executive branch, of the leader of the executive
branch to have you know, a quarter pounder with cheese
and sex with his wife. Why don't I say that
because a federal judge, you know, the Supreme Court said
to these judges, no more or national injunctions unless the

(21:04):
case before you you can prove that it's on the
merits only, it will only apply to your jurisdiction. So,
if you're a federal judge, say in the District of Colorado,
and you enter a temporary restraining order, that can only
apply to any that federal issue as it applies in
the geographical boundaries of the state of Colorado. And the

(21:27):
Supreme Court said, unless you can, without any diversion, meet
the requirements for a class action lawsuit, unless you can
identify and certify the class no more national injunctions. Well,
yesterday a federal judge appointed by Bill Clinton block President
Trump from firing federal workers on Wednesday amid this stupid

(21:52):
government shutdown, which I believe is another instance of judicial
intervention in executive actions. Despite everything thing I just described
the Supreme Court order that limited national injunctions. So you know,
the shutdown began earlier this month because Senate Democrats block
funding bills keeping the government open. US District Judge Susan

(22:14):
Ilston issued the ruling saying this quote, it's very much
ready fire aim on most of these programs, and it
has a human cost. It's a human cost. They cannot
be tolerated. Seriously, say that to the thousands, if not
millions of people in the private sector they get fired.

(22:36):
You know, it's easy to say that someone is probably
going to die in a crash somewhere today, or a
drug overdose, or a murder, probably maybe on the South
side of Chicago, or that someone's going to get laid
off or get fired. It happens all the time. Well

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then what about the human cost of that. Are federal
workers somehow nonhuman? Are they somehow above the rest of us?
It was always always, first of all, as a political appointee.
There's absolutely no question. Political appointees appointed by the President,

(23:20):
confirmed by the Senate. I always knew that I worked
at the pleasure of the President and the president to
terminate my commissions at any time for any reason or
for no reason. Federal workers, likewise, can be fired. Now
they have union many of them, most of them have

(23:41):
union contracts. So you got it through. You got to
jump through all of these hoops. I jumped through hoops
till I was dizzy as hell to get a few
people fired. And it was hard to do, but nonetheless
it was It's possible to do. But Trump has faced
an unprecedented number of judicial orders that block his administration
actions since he took office back in January. And remember,

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earlier this year, the Supreme Court narrowed the scope of
these district court injunctions related to Trump's executive order criticizing
the lower courts for excessive use of judicial states the
LOOPOH allowing lower courts to exploit a class action status
to issue sweeping nationwide blocks. That was left open. Still

(24:28):
required to strictly adhere to the requirements. But what are
they doing. They're employing that tactic. What bugs me about
employing that tactic is the government's shut down. They're not
getting paid right now anyway, except for some exceptions air
traffic controllers and military and some others. So they're getting paid.

(24:49):
But if you're shut down and it's been determined that
you are unnecessary, you're non essential. You can't be an
effective leader of the executive Department unless you can terminate
those employees. You can implement a reduction, in force a riff,

(25:11):
you can implement, you know, a termination of a program.
It's not being funded anyway, Democrats are shut it down.
I maybe it's just because I'm not in the Department
of Justice. But I'd love to walk into that courtroom
and just say, you know, your honor, here's why we
oppose your temporary restraining order. The people that we're firing

(25:36):
are not getting paid, their programs have been terminated because
and I'd make it political. I'd make it so damn political.
I'd say, and you know your honor, because we can't
find five Democrats to fund the government. There's no funding
for this office. So we've shut this office down and
we have eliminated these workers, something that is a plenary

(25:57):
power of the president. As the head of the Executive Department,
the executive branch of the Constitution, he has the power
to do so. And we're sorry. It's never pleasant to
fire or lay off somebody. I've had to do it.
It's not fun at all. But sometimes that's the business
decision that gets made.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
And it's breakdown, Mike, you're really pushing my buttons with
this restaurant thing.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You know, the games you guys play.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
She's gonna suggest eventually to go to restaurant A, and
you're gonna say, oh, that sounds great, let's go there.
It's right next to restaurant B. They're really good too,
And she'll say, oh, okay, let's go to restaurant B.
That sounds great, and hence you in the.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Game you are.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
You could not be more wrong because as soon as
you suggest restaurant B, game starts all over and over again.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
And I can't I don't know, give me a polygraph.
Oh you know what, let's let's find a polygraph expert
and bring them in here. Because my answer is, I
truly don't care. If I honestly care about where we're
going to go eat, I'll tell Tamra I'm really in
the mood from Mexican tonight. Now I will still if

(27:16):
she says no, I don't want Mexican because I had
Mexican last night, I will give up. I shouldn't even
say give up. I'd be okay, that's fine. Then where
do you want to go? Because again, the the baseline
is I don't give her red.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Saus and we want to please you, and.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I just want to eat. I just want to eat.
I just want to eat. I just want to please you.
Not trying to play a game at all. So you're
wrong to.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Give that? Give that is that listener number eight? Yeah,
I think so give her a demerit for I don't know,
twelve hours.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
All right, she's listening number thirteen. Now she kicked out.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
She can come back tomorrow. It's six nine yeah, six
o nine yeah. But until then, you're done. You're just done.
And typical woman too, right, good grief, trying to accuse
us of playing a game.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
She thinks she's right.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
You know, I think Missus Redbeard and both Missus Redbeard
and Missus Brown are listening right now. Now. The fortunate
thing for me is Missus Brown is leaving town for
a couple of days, so I'll just eat whatever I
want to eat tonight, and I know which will be water,
crackers and jelly.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Because Missus Redbeard was listening earlier because she made comments
to the cooking comment Yeah, yeah, I will have to
bring home some an extra, an extra chicken.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I just want to make sure because now tamers. If
Tamer's listening right now, she's like, Okay, now, what do
you say about cooking? What did I say about now?
I'm not going to ask you because you'll lie. But
you you admitted that Missus Redbeard cannot cook, correct that
she actually burned down the dishwasher.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Dishwasher, you set fire to a dishwasher. She figured it out.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
And as I said, Tamar's a great cook. She cooks well, no,
that's what I said earlier. Check the tape, as they say,
just go check the tape. The one thing I said
is that she just cooks so much, not every time,
but most of the time, just like a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Again, that's what you're saying now, No, she.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Does, she cooks a lot. I think she sometimes struggles
cooking for just two people as opposed to you know,
she grew up in a household where you know, she
was cooking for but well, there were four of us
in the house one time. But I think when she
was growing up too learning to cook from her mother,
it was her her sister you know for a while,

(29:39):
and her dad, and so there's there's always a lot
of food. And now, you know, what can I say,
I'm just trying to kill time until the music starts
because we're done. I can't believe she called in accused
us of playing that game. We don't play game. We

(30:03):
just want to go eat, that's all.