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October 21, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Michael, I had to stop listening to your show
this morning as I went into work to teach at
a community college and I found out that they use
Amazon Web Service to host the on campus network. My
students were supposed to have their midterm exam today. They
were highly upset when this gen X instructor told them

(00:21):
to pull out a pencil and pen and I gave
it to him.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Be a hard tuppy. What do you know what I
discovered last night? Dragon? Did you see the emails from
our support teams.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Right that the talkbacks used the Amazon Web service.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, we could have told you that at eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, that was my assumption, but I didn't wake them.
I didn't want to make an assumption. And you know,
but I kind of chuckled when I got that because
we were joking about it yesterday. And turns out, yeah,
sure enough. So the entire the entire backbone of our
infrastructure all depends upon Jeff Bezos. Think about that.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yay.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Then there's the story about the I find the whole
Louver robbery fascinating, but probably not for the reason you
think I find it fascinating. I find it fascinating because
imagine that you are, you know, you're the executive director

(01:32):
or whatever they call you know, there's probably a board
of directors. There's an executive director, there's you know, the
there's the curator of different parts of the you know,
the museum and the and the louver is a if
you've never been there, there's there's this huge plaza and
this glass entrance that you go into. And by the way,

(01:52):
if you ever go and you think you're going to
see the Mona Lisa, uh, let me just tell you
that if you really truly want to see the Mona Lisa,
make a telescope with you.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Isn't it like the size of a posted stamp.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's about the size of one of these monitors. It's
you know what what what of.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
These are these eight and a half by eleven?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, about eight a half by eleven And of course
it's set, you know, back so that you can't touch
her to get near.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
It and throw a can of soup at it.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well, and you and I think they may have put
the plexiglass over it so if somebody does throw something,
it won't destroy it or hurt it. And the crowds
are just like, I don't know, It's like it's like
a Broncos game or a Paul McCartney concert or something.
So you either have to plan to just patiently work

(02:41):
your way up, knowing that there are thousands of people
behind you trying to work their way up too. So
it's kind of like Chevy Chevy Va Chevy Chase in vacation,
where you know, they pull up to the Grand Canyon
and they jump out and they look back and forth
and says and then Chevy says, Okay, it's get in
the van and go and they keep going. That's that's
kind of how you see the Mona Lisa. It's kind

(03:03):
of how my granddaughter and I saw it. She wanted
to see Monette Starry Night in the Museum of Modern
Art in the moment, and after following the directions on
the maps, which turned out to be wrong because even
though it showed an opening to get to Gallery five
Oho one, they had blocked and made it one way,

(03:26):
so we had to retrace our steps and go back,
so we did a double thing, and then when we
got there it was just like the Mona Lisa. It
was like, and you know, I threw my camera my
phone up and took a picture of it, just so
I could show the crowds, send it to tamer because
we've seen the Mona Lisa and look some Mona Lisa

(03:47):
all over again. But it was my granddaughter, so we
worked our way up so she could actually get close
to it and see it. And you know, it was fine.
But the louver, back to the louver, it's this monstrous museum.
Now imagine and I'm sure like most museums, like most
things in all around the world, now everything's under construction,

(04:09):
everything's being remodeled, everything is being rebuilt. Everything, you know,
there's there's like, by the way, dragon, do you like
speaking of remodeling, we can pee in the toilets on
the fourth floor, but we can't pee in the urinals
on the fourth.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
I'd be wary of that because they don't fully flush.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
The urals don't flush at.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
All, correct, but the toilets they just like a trickle
of water.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
They don't fully Oh yesterday when I did it, Oh yeah,
it fully flushed. Okay, Now that was yesterday, and that
was yesterday morning. So maybe the time you go in
the afternoon, it's not doing anything. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I've been told that the women's works though.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh on the fourth floor. Correct, Yeah, oh well we
have too many women on the fourth floor, so I
won't be able to go try it. So all this
can instruction is always going on. Everyone's fascinated. You know,
it's the Napoleonic jewels. They steal these jewels in broad daylight.

(05:10):
And apparently we now have some camera footage from somebody's
iPhone of the thieves actually cutting into the cases and
getting them. And I don't get it, but there were
no cameras. There are no cameras in this particular wing
or particular gallery where the Napoleonic jewels were kept. I

(05:32):
think I've seen them, but I don't remember anything about
them because I was too focused on the Mona.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Lisa, How did these security people that you designed the
louver seen any bank robbery movie ever? I mean, seriously,
why why don't you have cameras in where the jewels are?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yes, but in fact it cost like The Lover, I'd
have cameras in every single room.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Everybody saw the Thomas Crown Affair, Ocean's eleven, the Italian Job.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean, come on, people, I think a moment, I
think I think there were cameras and you know, because
I'm one of those guys that goes in and I
look for the cameras. I always look at the just
I'm always curious about what kind of security systems places have.
Well in in the louver robbery, they pull a crane
up and they're disguised as or dressed as construction workers.

(06:25):
And here's what fascinates me. People see them. They pull
a crane up. They you know, they do the chair
lift whatever you call it, that you know, gets them
up to the window. They start cutting the window out
and then they you know, they crawl inside and you know,
maybe maybe they repel down the wall. I don't know

(06:47):
what they do when they get inside. Maybe they drop
a ladder. But they're just acting like construction people. Was
there nobody in the building at all, even a security
guard that would they would stop and think to ask.
Nobody told me that there was going to be construction crews.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
There was a social media trend something or other the
few years back where a couple of guys with yellow
work vests and a ladder proved that they could get
into anywhere because they had work vests and a ladder
who lives walked right in. Security even opened the doors

(07:25):
for these people. Yeah, so you can totally see it.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I can too. I just find it interesting that in
a place as secure as the like, I can see
that happening here easily. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
In the louver.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
However, you would think that a security guard would have
been told by management, by the way, be extra careful
today because a construction crew is coming in and there
will be some distractions, and we don't want you distracted
by the construction crew. You would think, yeah, and then
you would think that the security guard himself or herself

(08:02):
would think, wait a minute, nobody when we gathered, you know,
when we checked in for our shift today, nobody, you know,
has you know, kind of like you know, the cops
gather up in the in the briefing room, and you know,
the captain tells them what's going on that day. You
would have thought that the supervisor would have said, oh,
by the way, in gallery number four eighty seven, you
know where the Napoleonic jewels are, there's going to be

(08:25):
a construction crew. And you would have thought too that
somebody would have thought, wait a minute, nobody told us
about this in the briefing and get on the radio
and say, can somebody confirm that, you know, we have
supposed to have a construction crew today. I just find
that lack it's it's a lack of situational awareness. It's
just that we are so accustomed, so busy, and and frankly,

(08:47):
you just don't give a ratsass that that kind of
stuff is able to get get done. That's what fascinates
me about that. But then that's not the big story
of the day. In terms of thieves. I noticed the
Napoleonic jewels. I know they're priceless. They're insured for however,
many millions of dollars, but they're nonetheless priceless. Why is

(09:09):
something priceless, Well, one of many reasons why something is
priceless is because there's not a market for it. The
market has to be a billionaire, you know, a multi
billionaire who could afford to pay the thieves for it
and just keeps the jewels in his private collection to just,
you know, claim that I have the Napoleonic jewels. But

(09:32):
you know, you can't really put them on display, you
can't offer them. You know, you can't say, hey, I'd
like to contribute to the Museum of Modern Art the
Napoleonic jewels or to you know some you know, some
Denver museum. You can't really do that, so you just
have to keep them, enjoy them for yourselves. Maybe they're
going to collect the insurance money. You know, at some

(09:53):
point the insurance company's going to pay out. And you
know if if, and most of these insurance companies that
ensure things like that will pay off, no questions ask. Now,
of course they'll have investigators that will try to track
you down and get you, but they just want the
jewels back, and they're willing to pay just to get

(10:15):
the jewels back. But that's not the big story. The
big story of the day comes to us from Union City, Ohio. Yes,
this is where the real robbery took place. Two men
were arrested after the popost so they stole more than
three hundred pounds of meat as well as pies and bread.

(10:42):
Now I'm not so concerned about the pies and bread,
although you know, a nice apple, cherry pie, lemon merangue
pie sounds pretty good. Pumpkin yeah, Well, you know, have
you seen all the stupid memes of the big tough
guys walking into a Starbucks or maybe it's actual commercials
walking the Starbucks and ordering. Yeah, give me a coffee,

(11:03):
give me an Americano, give me a coffee black. And
then they hand the barista a little note that says,
I really want a pumpkin spice latte. Blah blah blah,
and they wink at each other and okay, Captain Rogers,
you know, and Captain Roger walks up and smiles real
big and goes out and SIPs his pumpkin latte. Pretty clever,
But it's also what I think about pumpkin everything. I'm

(11:26):
tired of the pumpkin spice. And it's really not even
that time of year yet. The Union City Police Department
said the officers responded to a call reporting that the
Union City Help Center's freezer had been broken into. One
Anguano and Aguano. Aguano and justin Flint allegedly admitted to

(11:46):
stealing three hundred and fifty pounds of hamburger and sausage meat,
two eight count boxes of Wicks Pies, one thirty six
count box of hot dogs, twenty four packs of bacon,
and twenty four loaves of bread. They were arrested and
booked into the Randolph County Jails. That's where the money
is stealing meat. I woke up to every more. I

(12:12):
haven't read Today's New York Times yet. I'm sorry, but
I haven't done my job yet. But I do get
an email every day from The New York Times telling
me about what they want me to read. As if
it's a newspaper. Maybe I'll make my own choice. But

(12:32):
here is the subject line opinion today, Life under the
threat of deportation. Since the early days of his second term,
President Trump has made good on his promise to ruthlessly
pursue the millions of undocumented people in the United States.

(12:52):
Images of Immigration and Customs enforcement officers and neighborhoods, courthouses
and workplaces arresting and deporting people are part of the
daily news now. Yet these scenes captured just a small
fraction of what it is to be an undocumented person
in America today. Ruthlessly pursue millions of undocumented people oh neighborhoods, courthouses, workplaces.

(13:21):
Then the paragraph continues. In a New Illustrated series Separation,
the Pulager Prize winning duo Jake Halpern and Michael Sloan
well the New York Times, when's a pullater Nobody cares
bring that reality to life. Halburn follows one teenager and

(13:41):
his family of mixed status Honduran migrants in New York City.
Some of them are citizens, some have pending asylum cases,
others are undocumented as they navigate the ever shifting landscape
of immigration. Their mixed status put some of the children
at risk of being separated from their families if ice

(14:05):
comes knocking on the door. But amid the legal chaos,
life unfolds, school work, birthdays, being a teenager. Halburn's in
depth in reporting involves hours of interview interviews with the
family and their immigration lawyer, pouring over their legal documents
and family photos which are used to inform Sloan's illustrations.

(14:27):
This is the first installment in a series Halpering Sloan
will tell the family story as it unfolds over the
next few months. Dummies, you just put your names in
the New York Times, that some of you are undocumented
and here illegally. You just put a target on your back.

(14:49):
That's the first point I would make. The second point
I would make is this The New York Times is
now setting up what will be the reason that we
should not docu that we should not deport anybody. In fact,
we should just grant amnesty to everyone, because we'll look

(15:10):
at this mixed family. Some are here legally, some of
them are actually citizens, some have pending asylum cases, others
are undocumented, and now they have to navigate the ever
shifting landscape of immigration. Whose fault is that? Why do
they have to deal with this? Oh, because we're actually

(15:33):
enforcing the law. Oh, because you made the choice to
come here illegally. And now I'm supposed to be heartbroken.
I'm supposed to have like, oh, this deep felt sympathy. Look,
don't get me wrong. I understand why people come here.
I understand why they crossed their bio grand I understand
why they sneaked in through dulls. I understand why they
crossed the Canadian border. I understand all of that. But

(15:55):
don't ask me to feel sorry for them. They made
a choice, and their choice was to knowingly, wilthily and
unlawfully enter the United States without authorization, which is a misdemeanor.
And then if they crossed back into their home country
because oh, I forgot my favorite blouse and now I'm
coming back in, I come back in a second time unlawfully.

(16:17):
Now you've committed a felony, and I'm supposed to feel
sorry for you, am I supposed to feel sorry for
the kid that beat up the Doze staffer that finally
got arrested and finally's going to face some charges because
Judge Priiro has decided that, you know, hey, I'm not
going to put up with this craft, and I'm going
to name the judge good for her by the way.
In doing so. This is why we have such conflict

(16:46):
in the country right now. Because Cloward, Piven rules for radicals. Olenski,
Cloward and Piven all overwhelmed the system. Joe Biden was
probably the worst offender of all, a sleep of the
switch literally and figuratively, allowing tens of millions of people

(17:09):
to come into this country illegally, probably many terrasts celle
organizations from oh, I don't know, the Iranians, the Chinese,
the Yemen's, who knows where they came from, all set
and in place to attack us internally at any time,
and as you see going on in the United Kingdom,

(17:30):
to absolutely decimate the culture, to decimate what it means
to be a brip, so much so that there are
no go zones in the United Kingdom, much like we
used to have in Seattle, and now that they're all here,
the New York Times, the old gray Lady's going to

(17:51):
lead the charge and tell us that we have to
feel sorry for them, that we should not, you know,
when Ice Skill's knocking on the door and haul somebody
yeah and separates them, we're supposed to feel sorry for them. Well,
what if they committed a murder? Are we supposed to
feel sorry for them too, because they're now going to
be separated from their family. You committed a murder, You

(18:12):
committed a fellon in here because you came into the
country twice, or perhaps you violated the law by coming
here without authorization and then committed a crime. Shut up
New York Times.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Hey Michael, where is the pink panther when you need him?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I mean, wouldn't inspect it to so be able to
just figure out who did it?

Speaker 6 (18:32):
And the louver thanks?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Did you did you? Did you? Did you? Did you do?
Do do do? That's one of my favorite I just
love that too.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
That's the most fun thing to play on saxophone in
high school just walking around.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Did you play saxophone? Oh? Yeah, no? What once you
bring it in and play the pink Panther for us.
I don't have it anymore. Okay, I'll rent you one.
We play it. I think you still play it. How
long has Vinceince you picked one up?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
More than ten years?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay, well that should be interesting that I can hear
a few squeals and squeaks from that hit. Right, Speaking
of Judge Pierroll, let's do that next, because I really
do it's it's not the fact that she's going to
prosecute these yahoos, is that she's calling out the judges.

(19:22):
And I think that takes some cajonies.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Empty car jacking in a highly publicized case.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Where two young men were brutally.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Assaulted and stomped, highlighting the need for accountability among young
offenders in the district. This case underscores the escalating challenges
that we face in confronting.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Crime in Washington, DC.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
On August third of twenty twenty five, at about two
fifty three am Sunday morning, at the U Street Corridor.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
And Fourteenth Street, which is a very.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
Popular hangout a nightlife area. Essentially, Ethan Levine, a twenty
two year old, and several of his friends were standing
outside of Sunoco gas station. They were approached by a
large group of teams individuals who confronted them and began
to assault them.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Today.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Fortunately in DC, you can carry a weapon, so you
were able to execute several taxpayer relief shots.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
Oh never mind, we are announcing that Lawrence Cotton Powell,
who is nineteen years of age, along with Anthony Taylor,
who is eighteen years of age, are now charged.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
With assaulting Levine.

Speaker 7 (20:44):
Cotton Powell was stomping on Levine's head, as.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
You can see in this poster to my left.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
Levine was able to get up momentarily, but the crowd
chased him and got him down again. They to attack
Levine while he was on the ground.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
These are animals, They're literally just animals running in the wild.
This is the generation. And I know this is a broad,
sweeping charge here, and I understand that, but nonetheless, and
I know in any group of people you're going to have,
you know, ten percent are going to be bad, but
I think this might be more than ten percent. And

(21:26):
whatever the percentage is, the raw numbers themselves really speak
poorly for how we're raising kids in this country.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
And then proceeded to rob him of his sneakers and.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
His watch, the group.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
Then after the robbery and assault of Ethan Levine, they
walked in the direction of where another crime occurred within minutes.
You have heard of this crime. Edward Krusine, a nineteen
year old Doze person who was working in the administration

(22:05):
was walking a young woman to her car when he
was approached in the fourteen hundred block of Swan Street Northwest.
Approximately ten suspects approached him, and as they did, he
pushed the young woman into the car and he was
protecting her from the group before he was then attacked

(22:27):
by multiple suspects who then punched him repeatedly, causing significant
injuries to him. They got him on the ground, and
as they were doing so, they demanded the car from
the woman who was inside the car and had already
locked the car.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
They were banging on the car.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
They were pulling the car door trying to get the
car open, and were telling the woman in the car
to hand over the keys.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I like the way she describes it because I conveys
how it must feel you have wild animals. They must
just be hyenas, just wild animals attacking just you know,
looking for fresh kills, just whatever they can get and

(23:17):
banging on the car windows, trying to break the windows,
trying to get into the car, stomping, beating. I mean,
they're animals, Let's be honest. They're just animals. And I
want you to remember that because when she gets to
the part about the judge or the judges, this is
where it's so infuriating. Ah.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
And the woman was, as I said, able to lock
the car doors, so they were unable to gain entry.
And it was fortuitous that someone from the Metropolitan Police
Department was on patrol.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
He happened to pull onto the block and he.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Witnesses suspects actually assaulting course scene who was on the
ground lying next to the car.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
The juvenile fled, but within a short.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
Period of time two fifteen year olds were arrested and
they were taken into the family court by the Attorney
General's Office.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
That is fifteen year olds, So they're taking a juvenile
court family court. I would think that based on what
the police report I presume police report says, and the photographs,
the documentary evidence that they have of the beatings, that

(24:33):
they would have asked them to be tried. I know
they're fifteen years old. We're not talking about a murder case.
We're talking about, you know, a assaultant battery case. Here
probably fell in the assaultant battery.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
The local Attorney General's office. Now, I think what's significant
about this case is a history of Lawrence Cotton Powell.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
I want you to I want you to follow me
on this.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
Lawrence Cotton Powell is nineteen years of age. Thou charge
with robbery, first degree robbery, for which he faces fifteen
years in prison. He also faces the charge of assault
with intent to commit robbery in another fifteen years and
robbery for Edward coarsin fifteen years, assault with intent to

(25:17):
commit robbery another fifteen years, an attempted carjacking five years.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
Now, let me tell you his background.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
On April third of this year, Lawrence Cotton Powell was
sentenced for a felony attempted robbery.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Let me emphasize that felony attempted robbery.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
My office asked for jail time. Judge McClain, a judge
sitting in the Criminal Part in Superior Court with no
criminal background, made a decision to give Cotton Powell probation
in spite of his conviction on a felony attempted robber
within thirty one days.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
By May fourth Powell re offense.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
He's rearrested while he's on probation from the felony, and
he's charged with simple assault and possession of a prohibited
weapon b On May fourth, my office asked that probation
be revoked. But on May sixteenth, that same judge McClain
comes back and releases contin Powell and tells him basically,

(26:31):
be a good boy.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
The judicial system, the criminal justice system in this country
is collapsing, and it's collapsing. I know this is one example.
We could find examples probably anywhere in all fifty seven states.
So it's collapsing, and it's collapsing because we are electing

(26:54):
and appointing these bleeding heart liberals who somehow believe that, oh,
you know, felony robbery. Well, I'm going to give you
probation because I want to give you a second chance.
He had a chance and he made a choice, and
I don't I really don't give a reds. That's what
the circumstances are about his family's background or anything else.
He made a choice to commit a felony robbery. He

(27:18):
was convicted of that, and a judge gives him probation
and he goes out, you know, go out and be
a good boy. And he goes out and commits further
crimes within thirty days.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
On July twenty fourth, he is sentenced to one of
the two misdemeanors that he's charged with. Again, my office
asks for jail time after he victimized yet another person,
And on July twenty fifth, another judge the suspense's sentence
and decides that he should be on probation. So after

(27:57):
a felony of attempted robbery, conviction, after a violation of probation,
after a second crime, after a second conviction, after no
compliance with see SOSA, the judges say, do better, and
they let them go, and guess what. Within ten days
he's at it again with Ethan Levine and Edward Karstin.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's the judicial system. We can find judges like that
all over the country everywhere. Now they're teenagers, and I
know that people will are you. I can hear the
liberal leading hearts. Liberals make their argument right now, Oh,
but if we incarcerate them, they're going to, you know,

(28:43):
come out hardened criminals. Well stop, wait a minute, look
at them today. They're already hardened criminals. I know they're
nineteen years old. Wait a minute, they're nineteen years old.
They can go serve in the military. Yeah. Oh, they
can't get a drink, but they can somehow find an

(29:04):
illegal gun in DC. They can rob and almost stomp
to death a kid is trying to protect his girlfriend
in a car. They can commit felony robbery. Yeah, and
judges just give them probation when it comes up to
a general election. And you should do what I do.

(29:27):
I really don't care. I just vote against every single
judge on the retention ballot. I don't care how good
or how bad they are. I want to completely I
want to disinfect the judicial system. I want to disinfect
the criminal justice system. Good morning, Michael and Dragon.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
What an exciting day we had yesterday with Amazon web
services going down. My poor poor family and neighbors. All
their streaming services were interrupted, sling TV down, Everything was dark.
And guess what, the old man with his antenna and

(30:09):
all his maps knew exactly what was going on.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's Grandpa Analog right there. Grandpa Analog was able to
get by just fine. How many booking could you find
your way around town today without your GPS in your car?

Speaker 5 (30:28):
I've got family members who use the GPS in their
car to places they go every day. They go to Grandpa's,
they've got to put it in. They go to you know,
their brothers, they got to put it in. They go
to the grocery store, they got to put in the address.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
It's like, how you know where the place is. You
don't need to do.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
This all right, confession time, Oh dear god, that's not
why I do it, and I don't do it all
the time. But if I don't, don't bang your head
on the count you'll damage the equipment. Be careful, don't
do that. Sometimes I will plug in the destination because

(31:07):
I'm checking the traffic because sometimes I mean, I know
this comes as a shock to you, but the twenty
five will be backed up, So I'll take.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
All weeks backed up. You know it's backed up.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Leave accordingly, well, sometimes I leave accordingly. Sometimes I can't
leave until I can leave. And then four seventy four
to seventy is so poorly designed that I if I'm
coming down twenty five, I will because I have to
make a decision. Am I gonna take the express lane
or stay in the regular lanes? And am I going to
pay the ninety cents or I'm gonna just pay pay nothing.

(31:43):
So I'll flip on either app, you know, Maps or
Google Maps, and then you know, the traffic will come up,
and then I'll take my finger and slide around and
see see whether it's red or yellow. And then I
make a decision which lane I'm going to use. And
sometimes if if I I guess I'm coming from downtown
Denver and it's starting to back up around Oh, I'd

(32:05):
say around Evans or so, and I'm thinking, is there
a record? Watch, So I flip on the maps to
see how long the delayed lasts, to see whether or
not to bail on University or sometimes all bail on University,
and the right back on twenty five because I know
exactly where the backup is, and so I can just
keep moving. Is there something wrong with that? That's just sad?

(32:25):
That's what sad? Why is that sad? My time is
valuable to me. I don't want to sit in traffic
looking at the stupid evs hoping that the batteries will
die on them. I have places to go, things to do.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Judge Piro, Now, the co defendant in this case is
an individual by the name of Anthony Taylor. He charged
also with the same arrest. He is from with the
same crimes. He is from Maryland, he is eighteen years old.
We are unaware of any history as it relates to him.

(33:06):
I want to thank the Metropolitan Police Department. I want
to thank the fact that this department went above and
beyond and worked incredibly hard with the little evidence that
we had to identify two of the perpetrators that were
going to be able to prosecute.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
In criminal court. And I want to mention and thank
the Chief.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
And I also want to thank Mayor Bowser for her
assistance in helping us. This is a coordinated effort by
all of us. I also want to thank the marshals
who are here and they'll be speaking to you in
a minute. But I again urge the DC Council to
reconsider those trilogy of laws.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
That allow Washington, d C.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
To allow these young people to go out and victimize,
revictimize and keep revicto and putting the safety of the
citizens who live, work and visit here at risk.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
But I would have gone further. But then, you know,
I understand the limitations, the politics. I understand all of that,
and I understand that perhaps the law allows the judges
to grant probation, but it does not require them to
grant probation. And so she calls the judges out, which

(34:27):
I congratulate her for, and she calls for a change
in the laws that allows the probation. I just wish
she'd gone one step further and said, and these judges
out of I mean, and I know it's tough, and
perhaps she'd get in trouble for it, but these judges
should not hear these cases. These judges should recuse themselves

(34:50):
from these cases.
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