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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
They just broke ground for a huge data center outside
of Cheyenne, Wyoming, and there's another data center going in plans.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Of being cast for Wyoming. So we're going to be having.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Data centers all around us.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It won't well, it'll be different, but it won't be
different really than most of you are probably too too
young to remember the old Mountain Bell buildings. Every once
while you'd drive along and you'd find this nondescript, windowless
brick building and but for maybe, just maybe there might
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be a Mountain Bell sign somewhere on the side of
the building. You'd have no idea what it was, and
it was a kind of like a data center for
Mountain Bell. So we're going to have all of these
big ones, small ones, large ones. Everything I read through
the text said just last night and again this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And I.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Don't want to rehash and re litigate all of the
story that I did yesterday about data centers. But if
you're concerned about rising power costs because of data centers,
then when you find out that one of these is
going in, you need to go to your local utility,
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your public utility commission. You need to go to the
city council who's got to prove the zoning or whatever
it might be, you know, for that particular center, and
cause a stink that says they're going to pay the
power charges for that center. And if there's a if
there's some sort of delta between what you know, a
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residential or a normal business charge is, and then for
someone that's a high consumer, make sure that they can't
pass that on to you, that they have to absorb that,
or you know, maybe it's time to you know, increased
generation power. I really believe that we're moving into a
world where, regardless of EVS or anything else, that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Energy.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
This is why I spend so much time talking about energy.
We can't do anything in this country that is domestic
or national security rated, national security related that does not
involve energy. And at this point we ought to recognize
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if I forget I because I just don't pay attention
to those kinds of details, whether it was Google or Meta,
but whoever it was, maybe it was Microsoft that was
reopening Three Mile Island. Good for them, and I want
them to do that, if for no other reason to
show all the numbnuts out there that, you know, watch
some movie about Karen what's her name? Uh? And you
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know the you know nuclear power killed or that, No,
it didn't. In fact, if you look at three Mile Island,
it was totally self contained. And what you know it
was Chernobyl. Yes, Chernobyl was bad. Do you know why
Chernobyl was bad? If you've ever spent any time in Russia,
like I have, you know that the Russians really, because
it's a communist country, they don't care about safety. They
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don't care about they I mean, we may go overboard
in terms of OSHA regulations, but they think OSHA is
like some sort of soup you might get, Oh, it's
a new kind of borch.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
We get ocean. Well, it's order some ocean, so there's
some borch.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
They don't care about people's lives, safety or anything else.
So when they build something like Chernobyl, they don't have
the redundancy safeguards that we would have in this country.
So we're one extreme, they're the other extreme. So good grief.
I just we're gonna need as much reliable baseline power
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as possible because everything data centers AI, which will improve
our lives. Now, you know, I thought about AI last
night because I saw they had taken Don Rickles of
all people. Now, I admit it's funny. Don't get me wrong.
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I admit this as funny. But someone had taken some
artificial intelligence platform and they had taken a scene of
Don Rickles. It looked like he was probably sitting on
the couch of the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, and
they had redone it, except he was making jokes about
things occurring today. Now, I admit I watched it. I
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found it humorous, but I also found I guess because
of someone who actually watched Don Rickles when he was
probably on the Johnny Carson Show, which makes me a dinosaur.
I actually found it funny. I did not. While I
found the jokes funny that he was telling about things
going on today, it just wasn't the same. And it
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wasn't the same because I knew it was fake. It's
like knowing that you buy you know, you go to
New York, you go to New York. Because I was
teasing my granddaughter about why do you want to go
into the real store to buy a purse?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Wait, look right.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Here on the street, I could buy you one right
here for you know, we could haggle. This guy he's
probably selling it for sixty five dollars. I could probably
get it for twenty bucks. Just wave a twenty dollars
bill and appeared, I'm gonna walk off.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh no, no, no, no, zir.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Come back, come back. You know twenty five? Will you
take twenty five? I'll do twenty five. It's just not
the real thing, And I think we live in an
age where we want genuine, real articles, genuine real people
like you know we I suppose iHeart, don't ever tell
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them this. They could probably we just cloned my voice
and Dragon's voice and just plug our voices into AI.
Somebody could just write a script and just play it.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, cloning my voice right now is not gonna do
so much good.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know, you sound like you should probably just stay
back there and not come near me today, because.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I feel really good today.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You're a hugger, Come on, can you hug? Give me
a hug?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
By the way, did you get a hug yesterday? No?
I did not, Oh I did. I gotta hug you.
I get a hug.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I don't even think I got a handshake. But the
way I sounded the past couple of days, nobody wanted
near you it's understandable.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
So were they at the other end of the table
and you were yeah, it was across it.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, exactly did they.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Did they talk to you like from a different room
to like did you sit in one room and they
sat in all the room and you got it right
on the conference call and.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
They yeah, you know the prison you know, write the
prison thing and you pick up the phone.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
People should know if they actually have one of these
in the building where you know, when when man has
to talk to you know, the pleabs, you know, the
scum what we go down to a room and we
pick up.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
The phone exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And of course part of that is because they know
that we're all armed and dangerous and they don't want
to be there, so they keep us behind blexiglass to
talk to us.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
The data centers, it's it's why I get so pissed
off about Excel Excel Energy, that's our provider. When I
look at, you know, all of the wind turbines, I
give all the crap on email about would you like
to pay extra because you could buy wind energy? Wait
a minute, you want me to pay extra for something
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that's fungible. So when when wind energy, or when wind
creates electricity, when those turbines create electricity, or when solar
converts to electricity, and that goes into the let's just
say it goes into a substation, you know, putting on
where it goes to a generation plan or whatever. But
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it goes there. Is is it colored? Is that electricity red?
And the and the solar energy is yellow and the
natural gas energy is black?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Because it's evil. I want to buy some red energy.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I want to buy some yellow energy so that you know,
when I get the spark at the plug in the house,
I can.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
See, oh look look, honey, look look at the spark.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's red. It's wind energy. No, it's all fungal. It
turns into the same. So I get these two bid
emails from Excel that says, hey, if you want to
go clean, you can buy wind.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Energy even even better. Doesn't doesn't your phone tell you
that you can prioritize green energy for charging? You're an
Apple guy? Doesn't it do that?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I don't think, So I'm dark. I killed it.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I think there's a setting in the iPhone that you
can prioritize green energy G when charging.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So how would it prime? How would it know what,
So I to charge my phone. Now, I don't use
one of those like the one that's broken in here.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
The uh the mag safe the chargers.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, I just I just plugged mine into a to
a a c uh usb usb C. But how would
the phone know where it's electricity? Which is my point
the electricity. Electricity is electricity, regardless of the source. I
when I'm gonna I'm gonna have to make a quick
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trip to see my mom. And then I got to
make a quick trip one weekend to see uh my
other granddaughter. Oh, and I gotta make and I was
looking at I forgot I gotta go to my grandson's graduation.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I'm looking on United, just kind of generally looking at
flight times and stuff. And United now offers that again,
I can I can pay extra, I can pay extra
to offset my carbon footprint. No, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm looking for the cheapest possible fare I can find,
and I'm not gonna pay you extra. And then I
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went onto whatever it is, you know, Google dot flights
dot com or flights dot Google dot com, just so
I can see a larger array of schedules, and they
actually put a little green leaf on certain All I
could tell was, I don't think it has anything to
do with a particular airline. It may have a it
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has to do with a particular aircraft. So it might
be American, it might be United, it might be Southwest,
it might be whatever. But they'll have a little green leaf.
And I thought, what's that? Do I get it like marijuana?
Do I get free marijuana if I if I booked
that flight. No, it's that it has a lower carbon
footprint that particular flight does than any other flight. Well, okay,
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so I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Support dot Apple dot com use clean energy charging on
your iPhone with iOS sixteen point one and later, your
iPhone can try to reduce your carbon footprint by selectively
charging when lower carbon emissions electricity is available. There's a
setting in the phones that will supposedly use.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Now have any I have to go find that because
I'd like to figure out just okay, explain to me, Apple,
how do you know that's true. I've got you tied
to a nuclear power plant. I've got you tied to
a wind turbine in my backyard. We used to call
them windmills.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Go to settings privacy and security, location services, system services,
and make sure these system customization is on and there
is a clean energy charging tab that you can switch on.
The virtue signaling will never end yep, it will never end.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Well, everybody make fun of Dragon today. Don't have any sympathy.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
For him because my dumbass showed up because.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You're dumbat You're like, you're like me the day I
showed up and tried to do with the Michael Brown
mint and could even barely get that out, and so
they had to scramble to get somebody in here caw
which shocking to me that it was Caldera, because you know,
it was like, you know, five forty five in the morning,
and Caldera doesn't even know that that time exists on
the clock.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Last week Politico reported on in you surely you've heard
of this, a twenty nine hundred page document dump, there
was a bunch of chats that were found among young
Republican leaders across several states.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
They had they had group chats going on.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It turned up shocking use of in words, rape jokes,
kind of gleeful gas chamber language. And it does, it does,
and it is bad. I want to give you. I'm
going to justify it, but I want to have a
little different perspective about it. One perspective that I would
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say is different is Jay Jones, the guy running for
the Attorney General in Virginia. Talked about it with a
colleague in the Virginia Assembly, their pullet bureau, about how
he wanted to kill the then Speaker of the House,
and she was like, no, sure to you're kiddy. You
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know you shouldn't say things like this, and he retorted
something to the fact, No, I'm really serious. In fact,
I think I should kill his children. And she was like, no,
you need to take this, you need to stop this.
You shouldn't be doing this. And he said, no, no, no,
I'm serious. I'd like to kill his children because until
they suffer real pain, they're not going to change. And
he stood buy it. Now, if if he were applying
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for a job in a district attorney's office, or he
was applying for a deputy or an assistant attorney general's
job in the office of the Attorney General of the
Commonwealth of Virginia, and that was part of the background check,
he would fail the background check. Yet he is running
to be the attorney general. And there are no Democrats,
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including what's her name, Mikey somebody that's running for governor,
that refuse to denounce or demand that he withdraw from
the race. They're just trying to ignore it. Tim Caine
has come out and said Senator Tim Kane has said
something to the effect, well, I know Jay Jones, I
know Jaden. This is not the Jay Jones I know,
and you know he's not really serious about it. They
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will rally around the most despicable, horrible things that people
say and defend them. Republicans on the other hand, when
this treasure trove of these chats among these gen zers
and gen xers or whatever they are turned up using
in words and rape jokes in gas chamber jokes, they
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were promptly condemned and they were removed from their positions.
That's the difference between us and them. The young Republicans
aren't alone. There was a subsequent political story that exposed
some racial animus in a chat by Paul Ingracia.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Oh, Michael, who's pulling Groscia.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
That's Trump's nominee to lead the office a Special Council.
In fact, I think the off this, I think it
may have it slightly incorrect. I know it's the Office
of Special Counsel, but it may actually be the Office
of Special Council for Ethics in the Department of Justice.
And then on the other side of the aisle you've
got Graham Platner. He's a leftist, populist Democrat. He's a
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former Marine. He's running for the Senate on the Democrat ticket,
and they're trying to ask Susan Collins up in Maine.
He's been exposed for having and I looked it up.
I even went to the Book of Knowledge Wikipedia to
see what they would say about this symbol. It's an
SS tattoo that he has on his chest. And he's
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also been found making obnoxious comments on Reddit about a
decade ago, blacks don't tip, rural whites are racist and
stupid and oh, in fact, I've traveled through rural white
America and found out that indeed they are white, and
they are racist and they are stupid. Part of me
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wants to take this stuff less seriously, and part of
me wants to recognize that people say stupid things. Hell's
bells go back over almost twenty years now of radio.
I bet I've said some really stupid things, not necessarily
on purpose and not racist, but I've said some stupid things.
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The suggestion is horrifying to the olds like me, or
millennial readers for that matter, millennial listeners. But we don't
live in the Civil Rights era or the Jim Crow South,
or even within their recent memory, whose traumas and reconstructions
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created the language the language regime that most of us
are now confined to. And I'm not making any sort
of advocacy argument that we ought to start talking like
this out in public. I'm just trying to be realistic
about what goes on in some of these chats. We
have a legacy of slavery and segregation, but America's racial demographics,
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our multi ethnic makeup, have also been explosively evolving. Zoomer's
alphas are growing up in a world that's unrecognizable from
the one in which our sensibilities were formed. First, let
me just state the obvious. The young Republicans are edgelording
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and joking.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yes. Does that justify it? No?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But let's recognize what they're doing first.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Mike, regarding sending you a talkback from a hospital, I
wish I had known I was in the hospital last
Thursday morning, getting ready for Colonosco, be listening to your
show on the iPad and the nurse made me turn
it off, saying it would conflict with the fecal cleansing
procedure I'd just gone through in the previous twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, yeah, levent you said you're in the hospital. I
thought really horrible things. You know, my mind went to
a different place.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Like celebrated a little.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, there's a little let's just say that. My heart
kind of skipped a beat of joy, and then I
knew it was at some point it was going to
be something about, you know, either I put you there
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But that's that. That was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
By the way, could could you send us the uh,
the little video of what they found so because.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I'd I'd actually like to see your brain. I'd like
to see your brain.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know that engineer's brains are in their butt somewhere
they're not whether they're not where they're supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Speaking of butts, you got to check out one of
my stories over there. Oh really, I don't know if
you want to touch them since I touched those papers.
But there's a there's a there's a butt story over there.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Butt breathing yep.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Okay, we'll do that in a minute. Okay, you're welcome,
make you happy. We do butt breathing in a moment.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Let's get back to the chats.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I don't know which is worse, butt breathing or these
chats that talk about you know, the N word and
gas chambers. And we got a semic candidate that's got
a an S S tat to in his chest. By
the way, he's tried to cover it up like what
you cover it up with? Oh, good grief, go back,
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go back to the obvious. The young Republicans and those
chats really are joking. Now it is it appropriate? No,
it's probably not. But common sense employed by anybody who's
ever been in a group chat knows that this is
deliberately provocative, anti woke signaling. Chats make dumb jokes. Every
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single one of us would be condemned if the contents
of our phones were made public by a hostile media outlet.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I know exactly how that works.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
My emails and my text messages were collected by a
Democrat congressman from Louisiana and turned over to the New
York Times, and they took several of them out of
context and talked about what a horrible individual of what
I was because I was making jokes in the middle
of the one of the largest natural disasters in American history.
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And as I've said a bazillion times, I've learned that
humor is one of the best things to use. And
when you're managing people who are under stress, it humanizes people.
It tells people, Hey, listen, I know you're under stress.
Here's a little joker. Here's something we can laugh about.
Get back to work. Ask your doctor if you've had surgery.
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You know, let's you know, let's go to the engineer
that lives off the runway at the end of Newark.
He goes in last Thursday to get a kolonoscopy. First
of all, he's lying about everything, so he didn't go
anywhere near a hospital because well, I can't go that direction.
But anyway, he didn't go anywhere near a hospital. But
if he did, and they know he's an engineer and
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they're doing a colonoscoby on him, and particularly if they
know him at all, once they give him the propofol
and he's out cold and they're sticking the camera up
his butt. They're making jokes about him. They're making jokes.
There's not a doctor in the world that during a surgery,
even life saving surgeries aren't cracking jokes at one point
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or another. To humanize and to keep people focused on Remember,
we're human beings, and we know we're doing serious stuff here,
but let's remind ourselves that we are human.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Almost sounds like what we do here on this show.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It is kind of what we do on this show.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
We mix up really serious stuff with things like whatever
the hell this is?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Science is not a big win? And butt breathing?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
What butt breathing?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Butt breathing? I mean, there's a phrase for the day.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Just put on the podcast butt breathing.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's the title. You got it right there.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's it's unfortunate that repressive language, policing and obsess Steve
hammering about race for the past two deck three decades
have given rise to this problem. But here's here's where
we are. I've seen this play out in schools and
in work to distressing effect. For a person that is
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and has been and believes in liberal codes of speech,
I believe in free speech. And again, if you want
to be a bigot and use the in word. You
know what, have at it, because now I'll know you're
a bigot. I'll know that you're a horrible individual. There
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was a time, guess what, There was a time when
the use of the in word in my own family.
My grandfather, my maternal grandfather, was a kind gentleman, but
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grew up in that era. He was a World War
One veteran. He used the in word incessantly. And of course,
you know, my poor mom and my dad both had to,
you know, remind me and my siblings that that was
an awful word. And we don't use that word. And
that's just the way that granddad speaks. And you know,
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we can't change him, but we don't use that word.
I didn't think less of my grandfather. I recognized that
he was a bigot. He was a human being that
happened to be a bigot. There's a there's a story
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about Brooklyn Private School where these two kids attend. They
were taught anti racism, social justice, focused every year everything
year on slavery and black history. This friend of mine,
whose kids go to that school, point out that the
effort was to create history, a hysterical focus on not
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e race talk among the school's little boy population, and
to resurrect antique slurs like monkey or watermelon eater for blacks,
they would use rice eater for raisin for Asians.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, we.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Don't say those things in public, but little kids would
make those jokes.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I condemn that. That's awful.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
But when you focus, focus, focus, focus on race, kids
that want to do something that they know is probably ooh,
let's do something that's white that's going to be you know,
slightly wrong or e'x. You know, we're going to do
something that's all over the edge here. You're almost like
you're teaching them to do that by focusing, focusing, and
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focusing on race. So that's their way of being rebellious,
you know, by middle school standards. The number of slurs
that have been found in these almost three thousand pages
of chat documentation they have been turned over to Politigo.
How many are actually I would consider to be racial
slurs two hundred and fifty one out of three thousand. Well,
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that's pretty low. It's not to justify it, it's just
to give you some perspective about it. Now, on the surface,
it might seem less forgivable in adults, but a closer
look at the dynamic complicates that picture. The private school
had little class diversity but was highly racially diverse, and
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my friend's son and the children around him played basketball
and city playgrounds. They took fashion cues from the young
black guys who worked in the Delhi next door. They
hung out with racially diverse kids from all over the
Brooklyn area. And while they were being subjected to relentless
narrative of racial animus and remedial propriety at school, the
cultural around them was giving them a different message. For
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one thing, that wasn't actually much meaningful difference or racism
between the white kids on one hand, and the mixed
race white Asian, the Wasians, the private school kids, or
the half black side of scientists on the other hand,
all hailed from similar class backgrounds.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So how does the kid account for that?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Given that it's only forbidden to say so, you surely
can't ask questions in the designated form of class discussion.
As for the legendary inward at school, the word is
grounds for expulsion. Yet then they're in a school where
they're told you cannot use that or we will expel you.
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Yet then they go out on the street, and in
the culture they hear their friends, their black friends, using
the word incessantly, and as a kid, they admire that
because they see that as rebellion.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It was almost an honor, it was almost an honorific.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
That leads to a confusing state of affairs where the
N word became everyday's biggest entertainment and the hottest sensation
for certain types of little kids, the good kind, I
would suggest, who thinks for himself and whose masculinity has
not been completely crushed by, you know, the nurse ratchet
types who lord over much of these kids' lives in
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these private schools. They will talk about who used the word,
who didn't use the word, who whispered it to himself
in the bathroom, was the r harder and so on.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
We've created this.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And again I'm not suggesting by any means that we
ought to bring that word back into our every day vernacular.
But think about children and how we teach them and
know and into schools and in our homes we say, oh.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
This is a horrible, horrible word, don't use it.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
And then they step out of the home, they step
out into the culture, and they find that word everywhere.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It's got to be pretty confusing to the kids.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
One of my I too say stupid things, but the
one thing I don't do is write it down and
send it to people or post it on the Internet
or on social media, where it lives forever.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
There is that, but I think the larger, the larger
perspective I want to take you away. I want you to
take away from this from this topic is think about
what we're doing to language, particularly when it comes to
racist language, whether it's you know, the Nazis and ss
or it's blacks or Asians or any other minority group,
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where we're inculcating all of these kids in schools about
how horrible these words are and that you can even
be expelled for using some of these words. And then
they walk outside the walls of the classroom and they
hear the words everywhere, so they're getting mixed signals. So
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then when they grow up and they they they go
to work in Congress and they're in a chat group.
Of course, you and I know that the Internet lives forever,
and we know that that's subject to being discovered in
a lawsuit or by accident or whatever, but they continue
those conversations and my theory is they do it as
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a sort of revolt. They do it as a sort
of showing that, you know what, we're not going to
be constrained by this because we're being told one thing
by these people in authority. Yet out here in the culture,
the people that everybody looks up to, whether they're rappers
or anybody else, uses those words and they make millions
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of dollars from using those words. So we're putting conflicting
things in their heads. So then when they use things
like that in a chat, people like you and me
are going, oh, but wait, why should we be shocked
by this. It's like telling the kid don't touch that,
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or you can't watch that, or you can't do this,
you can't do that, And what do the kids naturally
want to.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Do, because it's natural for the child to.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Then say, ah, yeah, I'll mom says I can do this,
I watch me, and I'm going when Mom's not watching,
I'm gonna go do that. It's insane and it just
happens to be language. And then the reaction is different.
Those on the conservative side. We actually condemn those on
our side of the political spectrum who do those horrible things,
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and on the Democrat the Marxist side, they're like, no, man,
it's fine, nothing to see here, Move along.