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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All morning.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I sat through nine thirty, nine thirty, nine thirty, and
then the minute that nine thirty hit, my phone started
ringing NonStop with an emergency, and so now I missed
nine thirty. I've never been more disappointed for someone to
get a promotion.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It'll work.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
We knew there would be mixed reaction because there's change.
Nobody likes change. Everybody, well I shouldn't say nobody likes change,
but changes. What I find interesting is a lot of
people don't like change. Yet in everybody's life, change is
the one constant. There's all There are always things changing,
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and for me, going to Koa on Monday, November ten
at nine am is going back home. That's literally where
I started on Saturday mornings. It was January like two
thousand and six, I think something like that, and I
was driving all the way down. We lived up the
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Mountains Way north of Boulder, and I was driving all
the way down on Saturday mornings doing a two hours show.
I think it was like either from nine to eleven
or ten to noon, something like that. And Chris Aldinger,
who was the market president at the time, had asked
me to do that because Peter Boyles, who used to
sit in this chair for decades. Had when he found
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out that I was coming back home from DC, had
asked me to go on his local television program. He
had something over at PBS. I forget what it was,
but you know, like a public affairs program. And Peter
didn't know me, and I mate, I knew if Peter
about as much as I knew as you know, I
would hear him occasionally on the radio. But I had
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a feeling that Peter thought that bringing me in to
do that show with him that morning, he was going
to just rip me a new one because I was
a Bush appointee and so and he despised George W. Bush.
And it was what I remember is it was like
the week of or the week before Thanksgiving. It was
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really snowy, and I was driving all the way down
from the mountains, you know, up north of Boulder to
go downtown Denver, and about halfway, I was thinking to myself,
this is not this isn't worth it. You know, it
is snow packed. It was one of those days you know,
where you're traveling twenty five miles an hour and you're
slipping and sliding, and I thought, ah, it's just not
worth it. I don't want to do this. And then
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I thought, but I can't, you know, why not have
a way of contacting him. I guess I could, you know,
call four one one or whatever it used to be
and find out what the number was for PBS. And decided, No,
that's just not that's that's not the right thing to do.
I've made the commitment. I'm going to fulfill the commitment.
I'm going to get there and I'm going to do it.
So we get there, and you know, I put on
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a tie and a jacket and they put some makeup
on me, and we sit down. Peter and I visit
for a little bit, and then he starts in and
he starts in with his cross examination. And I don't
know whether he didn't know whether I was a lawyer
or not. I don't know how much he knew about
my background. But it was like I was kind of
taking aback, and I thought, do you really want to
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do this? Like I'm thinking, do you really want to fight?
If you really want to fight, you know, let's do
a couple more questions. And this is all going on
in my head and he keeps pounding and pounding, and
it's really not about me. It's more about Bush and
some of the dish decisions that Bush made, and it's
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about DHS and blah blah blah. And so I'm like, Okay, oh,
this is what you want, this is what you're going
to get. And so I just fam, I just go
right into the fight just I mean, the fisticuffs are flowing.
And there's at one point where he says something about Bush.
I forget what it was, but I said, well, you
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know what you might find ironic, is I actually agree
with you about him. The President made a lot of mistakes,
and the President did a lot of things that I
didn't approve of but were outside my purview, outside my jurisdiction.
So if he's trying to expand the Part D Medicare
drug program, I don't really have I mean, I can,
and I probably did express something to Andy Card or
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to Joe Hagen or somebody on the in the Chief
of Staff's office about hey, guys, I think this is
a really bad idea. But I never say anything directly
to the President because the President would look at me
and say, I don't care what you think about Medicare
Part D program. I'm speaking to Tommy Thompson, the Secretary
of Health and Human Services about that. So I just
did not engage in those issues that didn't have anything
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to do with what my area was. And you know
why I would do that primarily because you want the
president to pay attention to you when you speak to him.
Do you want the President of the United States to
know that when you're talking to him, you're talking about
an issue that is in your department, in your in
your portfolio, and that he ought to listen to what
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you have to say. And if you're always going off
on a tangent about stuff that really has nothing to
do with what he's assigned you to do, then pretty
soon you become what no noise and Peter was just
a Paull taken aback that I would dare to go
on air as a conservative Republican and criticize a concern
a pseudo a sort of kind of sometimes conservative Republican
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President George W. Bush. And so we go back and
forth like that for I think the program was an hour.
So we go back and forth like that for an hour,
and we finish and he Pete Peter gets up and
he's like, damn, you're really good I thought to myself, well, okay,
so what thanks for the comment, a compliment, whatever. But
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unbeknownst to me, he calls Chris Oldinger, who's the market
president at the time, and says to Chris, hey, I've
interviewed because this is what Chris Oldinger related to me
that Peter Boyles had called her and said, Hey, I
just interviewed this guy that's you know, lives in Colorado.
He's been in DC for six years. He was the
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under Secretary of fund maand Security. I just had him
on my public affairs program and he's really really good.
You ought to have him on the radio. So Chris
Oldinger called me and said, we've got this slot on KOA.
Would you like to do it? And I I didn't expect.
I didn't know I was gonna get paid or not
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get paid or anything else. I just saw it as
an opportunity to do something that I've always wanted to do,
and that was beyond the radio. So I told Chris absolutely,
I'll do it. So, without even having met Chris until
I think maybe the week before or whatever, I drive down,
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I walk into the KOA studios and I sit down
and dragon, you'll love this I'm like, uh, how these
buttons work? Of course, now you know that, almost twenty
years later, I'm still like, you're still having to tell
me that's a double click, Mike.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Hey, you only know the on button, off button, and
next event button over there.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And you're barely good at doing any any of those.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
And it's taking me twenty years. At least I know
how to turn the microphone on and off most of
the time, most of the time, most of the time.
And now I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna
have to learn a new because they got it on
the other side. They got it totally screwed up over there.
But I probably shouldn't bitch and moan about the studio
over there, because well, I think I have a reputation
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for already bitching and moaning about studios.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It's in upgrade, but is it?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But really isn't, really isn't. So anyway to finish the
story real quickly, h Chris puts me on, I go
on air and do two hours, and two hours to
me is like nothing. So I do the two hours
and Chris and then Lee Larson. Lee Larson, an icon
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in Colorado media, tells Chris Hire that guy hiring, so
they hire me and for I don't know how honestly
you know me, I can flate time, so I don't remember.
I don't remember how long that I was doing that
Saturday program. And I was doing consulting work at the time,
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so during the week I was flying off to Chicago
or New York or LA or someplace. And then coming back.
Of course, there was driving tam or crazy. And then
I get up on Saturday mornings and I had drive
all the way down here. I'd cut across US sixty
six and come down I twenty five and oh, it's
just it was a miserable drive, but I did it.
At least it was Saturday. Wasn't too bad. And then
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Gunny Bob you remember that name. Yeah, So Gunny Bob disappears.
Gunny Bob says he's going to Afghanistan, and to this day,
nobody really knows where Gunny Bob is.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He's like, I'm just done.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, he just like disappears. And I really wanted that slot.
I wanted that so badly. I couldn't see straight, and
they I can't. I honestly don't remember whether they had
me filling in or what but I finally at some
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point we had the old member of the old pit
out here. Yeah, so we had the old pit.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Out here, and so he used to be filled with employees.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, the one was crammed up and it had those
old nasty cubicles and papers were piled everywhere, and Darryl
Luby and everybody was all I mean everybody, the engineers,
everybody was in that pit. They were all in that pit.
And I finally went to Lee Larson and said, I
don't you know, I've kind of been filling in, but
I'd kind of like to do that. And Lee kind
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of laughed and said, you mean, no ways to talk
to you yet, because that's what we plan to do.
So I'm beginning to learn that iHeart can be as
bureaucratic as DC was. Yep. And Lee said, yes, that
was our plan. We're going to put you in there.
So they put me in there, and Lee tells me
what they're gonna pay me, and then I'm I'm going
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to get a contract, you know, blah blah blah blah,
And I work for I want to say, almost a month.
Still don't find a contract, can't find a contract anymore.
Where's my contract? Where's my contract? And being the lawyer,
I am, I'm like, should I just not show up,
you know?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Or what?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So I called Lee and I said to Lee, I've
been doing this for several weeks and I haven't seen
a contract yet. And I can hear Lee's eyeballs rolling
in his head over the phone. He goes, give me
some time. I'll call you right back. And Lee calls
me back it seems like a couple of hours later
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and says, come in, found your contract. It was on
Chris Allingrew's desk, buried on one with a bunch of
buried under a bunch of papers. So I go in
and I assign it and Lee says this to me.
He goes, you'll learn that clear clear channel at the time,
that clear Channel is as bureaucratic as the federal government.
And I said, Lee that that that can't be true.
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I've been in the belly of the beast and it
can't be true. I don't know what it was. Maybe
two years later Lee and I are you know when
we actually had Christmas parties or something. I was at
a Christmas party and I said, Lee, you know what,
remember me told me how I clear channel was as
bureaucratic as federal government. You were right, you were exactly right.
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Uh huh so uh I did that, and then I'm
doing that for quite a while. Then they for like,
I don't know, a couple of years or something, and
then they come to him and they say, would you
like to do We want you to do afternoon drive
on k how. I jumped at that great opportunity right
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Afternoon Drive k how. That was after Capitalist and Silverman
were doing it. So I came in and I did that,
did that for a long time. Then they came to
me and said, oh, you.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Know what, we had an idea.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
We got an idea. We want to put you a
morning drive on k how. And when they came to me,
it was in this hallway back here, and I when
they approached me with the idea, I knew in my
head immediately the answer was yes. But I said to them, well,
I have to think about it. What I really had
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to do was go home to tamer and say, hey, listen,
our life, our wife. I was about to change dramatically. Uh,
I'll need to be getting up at you know, four
four thirty in the morning. I'll be I'll be done
by ten, but I'll be tired, and you know, I'll
be going to bed early, and so things are going
to everything's going to shift. And she was, well, that's
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that's a that's a great opportunity. You've got to do it.
So I came back the next day and said the
end was, yes, how long they've been doing this six
years or something?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, something like that for five years?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, years and years. Yeah. And so then they come
to us when they come to me, has it been
a week or two?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
We know this? Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah? How long?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
A week? Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
A week? Yesterday? They came to me, and we gone
through this round of layoffs, and everybody is on pins
and eels, wondering if their name's going to be in
the hat, you know, are we going to get drawn?
And so I get the text message, well, I'm out
running errands or something. Can you be in my office
tomorrow ten fifteen? And I think to myself, In fact,
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I texted back and said yes, wait a little while,
and then said, do I need to bring a paper
bag to take my stuff home?
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, Let me pick up a banker's
box so I can pass.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Actually the truth was, and I told him. I was
actually at office depot getting some bankers by because I
had all this crap from my mom from my dad's
estate that I needed to pack away. And then I
knew I was going down to see my mom to
take care of that stuff. So I was getting bankers boxes.
And I said, I'm literally at office depot getting bankers boxes.
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Do I need to bring one in?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
No, no, I promise you it's good. They promised me
it's good. But then Dragon, when I go to Tepper's office,
Tepper stands up, doesn't shake hands or anything, just says,
come with me, Bas, you'll see Jojo Row. And I'm thinking,
wait a minute. He told me this was good news,
and now we're going to see the boss.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't need the two of you to fire my ass.
Just didn't just tell me.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Look, I've been through this before. Just tell me I'm done.
I'll get my stuff. That's why I have minimal stuff
on my desk. I can be out of here in
three minutes. You don't have to escort me either. By
the way, here's my key card, which doesn't work half
the time. I'll just go and be out of your hair. No, no, no, no,
Tepper's now dragging me in to see Jojo, and JoJo's
sitting all there kind of pomp. Was like, oh oh y,
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I'm thinking, oh, good grief, here we go. And then
they throw this at me. Instantaneously, I say yes, because
I'm going back home to Koa. Going back home to Koa, which,
if you recall, is originally Rush Limboslat, that's the old
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Rush was on from ten to one originally before they
finally decided to or what was it ten to one?
I forget. They time shifted Russia show something right.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And then they moved him to be actually live, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
To be actually live. So it was then ten to
ten to one or something. Uh, So I'm excited about it.
It's part here, here's part of the deal Koa. We're
gonna stir up Koa. And that's why I need it.
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And that's why I need all of you goobers. And
I know all of you can't and I understand that.
So you know, there's only twelve of you plus the Ultraman.
So if two of you can't, we've got three or
four in the wings that are waiting, and we'll and
trust us. You can talk to you can talk to
the twelve that are on the jury now and the alternate.
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We pay damn well, we do. We pay you very
very well to listen to us because we need the
ratings and we need the sponsors, so we share our
wealth with you. We're socialists, We're just pure communists and socialists.
And if you don't do it, then we'll force you
to do it, because then we just become fashionsts and
make you do it so that we'll do it that
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way too. Nothing's going to change. That was my very
first question to both Jojoe and Tepper was what do
you want? It's the same thing that when the Premiere
came to me about doing the nationally syndicated program. I
asked Julie Talbot Talbot who is the president of Premier,
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and Bill May, who's the program director. I said, what
are you looking for? Well, they've been listening to the
program and they said, we want exactly what you're doing now.
We don't want anything to change. Okay. So that was
my same question to Joe, Jo and Temper, what are
you looking for? We want exactly what you're doing now.
And I thought, and I even said to them, are
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you sure.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
You know what we do? Right?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You sure, Yeah, And I know they've both. I know
they've both listened to us and I but I didn't
realize just how much over the past almost year they've
actually been listening. Then I find out that Chris Berry,
who is their boss's boss, and that I know personally
he is a good guy, he's been listening, as has
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been Brad Harden, who also noted he's Those are the
only two Culprit guys that I really know personally they've
been listening. So they've all signed off of So we're
gonna go over there. We're gonna stir the pops and
I need you to help me go stir the pot,
all right, So going back home, going back home to Koa,
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and we're gonna have them last. It'll be a shock
of the first day. Yeah, it'll wake them up. Hey,
Michael and Dragon, this is Jennifer. Congratulations on your transition.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You're one of us.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Now go get boys for girls.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You gotta be freaking joking me, private earballs, you're getting
an extra hour off a day.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Who do you think you are?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Rush Limbaugh, This's gotta be some kind of DEEI promotion. No, seriously,
congratulations on your promotion.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Guys, here's what we need. We'll still be doing talkbacks,
still doing the same text line. That doesn't change because
I can't let those other people use our dedicated text line.
That's not gonna change. And we'll need eventually, and Dragon,
I started talking about this yesterday, we'll need new rules
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of engagement, So Chris, you know what, Chris, I'm talking about,
Force Gump. We'll need we'll need new rules of engagement,
but we're gonna have some guidelines for them. So I'll
try to come up with the guidelines and we'll get
those up on the website. But we will need new
rules of engagement.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
And trust me, you do not want Michael to do
the rules of engagement. That's how it all started. Michael
would spend you know, five ten minutes talking about the
rules of engagement because he's really bad at it. So
we need some of you professionals out there to give
us something a minute or less.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
To do the rules of engagement.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You're going with me over there? Yeah, how did that happen?
I don't know. Yeah, I think I still have that
notebook where I begged them to make sure you state
as my producer.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
How would that work out for you.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Well, let's just say that sometimes you just you learn
from sometimes you know, learn from your mistakes and you
make the same request. Is anything going to change in
quitting dragon thing he's gonna change?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Well, isn't that the definition of insanity?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
It is, that's totally insanity. But you know what, may
I at my age, I don't give a rats ass.
So there's that. Let's see, there was a text that
I wanted to share.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Here.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
It is Goober number sixty ninety five Mike wrt Fresh
cool kids. We know that means with regard to with
regard to nine thirty, I don't give her rats ass.
I listened to the podcast here in Burbank, California. Now
let's just stop right there. Thank you. I will get
the map. I gotta get the map. I know you
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look at me like, well share you up bull craft
when I see it, right, So the podcast will stay
the same. Also, same RSS feed everything. But here's what
I thought. I it's been it's been a while since
I've been in Burbank. In fact, the last time I
was in LA I didn't make it to Burbank. I
was on the South side anyway. Here. I listened to
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podcasts here in Burbank, California, where the cops are allowed
to do their jobs, an island of sanity between sodom
and Gomorrah. No tenths on the sidewalk here, what.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Oh, what take pictures? We don't believe you, We don't believe.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You, but then we just kind of expect that. Well, yeah,
you all lie to us all the way, all the time. Anyway. Uh,
and then let's see seventy four to thirty one, Mike,
congrats on the promotion. Moving over to the fifty thousand,
what blowtorch? The seat once held by the great Mike Rosen.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Who's that?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Mike?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Who?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Rosan? Who's that guy? Beat me?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I have?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I don't know, must have been you know, probably somebody'd
sat in that seat for every time and always said,
you know what, what was? He always had this habit
of mister button, mister Cole buttons Button. Yeah, mister hoole button.
I wish you well and I'll miss your show on
my two and before school starts. Well, you know you
can always put the little secret little hearing aid in
your ear, butt in your ear and listen to me
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that way. All right, let's get started. I've kind of
reached my limit with the Democrats complaining and bitching and
moaning about Well, here's Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
So Trump is weaponizing hunger. He's turning millions of children
and seniors and veterans into political pawns. He's choosing politics
over people, cruelty over compassion.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And let's be clear about this. They've been on a crusade.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
The Republicans have been on a crusade against SNAP all year.
They slashed it by two hundred billion dollars this summer
to pay for their tax cuts for billionaires. So they
don't They've never wanted SNAP, and they don't want it now.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Really, Chuck, weaponizing hunger? Is that what you think is
going on? Weaponizing hunger? Hunger? Then an Iraqi refugee, this
comes from, uh, well apparently this take you listen, without.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Government support, I cannot stay maybe a month or two.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Months, PEMA County Chairman Rex Scott told News for Tucson
he's deeply concerned about the impact on local refugees, and so.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
An Iraqi refugee is telling the Tucson City Council or commissioners.
I'm not sure which one it was, I can't stay
here without SNAP benefits. Okay, maybe before you came to
the United States, and I don't know what his background.
I don't know whether he's one of our you know,
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he was one of our interpreters, or he was you
know what he did. But then go back go home.
It really bugs me to think that we're playing politics
with this program that quite frankly, is out of control.
We're not addressing Remember how they always used to talk
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about Democrats talk about the root causes of things. We
got to a deal. We've got to deal with the
root causes. Well, why not deal with the root causes
of the SNAP program.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Michelle white House has said that building the ballroom is
their top priority. Is Donald Trump's top priority? Was miss
Levitt's quote. So again, one of the I think distinctions
between a first term and a second term is that
which is most unpopular is most front and center. And
it gets to what Charlie's talking about. The Hebrews. John Jabra,
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who I just interviewed from my podcast, said he's sort
of over trying to figure out why he's doing something.
We should just talk about the ramifications of the consequences.
So I'm going to try to live that lesson the
ramifications of letting foodstamps expire is that children will die,
and again some of them may be the children of people.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Who voted for him.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
They're gonna die. The children are going to die because
there is we are such an a whole country that
there is not a food bank anywhere. There's not a
church anywhere, there's not a charitable organization, there's nothing in
the private sector anywhere that's going to feed kids. In fact,
the billionaires that look like the little Monopoly character, you know,
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the billionaire and Monopoly, they're just walking around smoking their
big fat ass cigars, going, huh, let them eat cake, which,
by the way, Marie Antwine never said, but let them
eat cake. Yeah, that's the Democrat's version of the snap program.
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They children are going going to die because they can't
get their bag of potato chips. Now, yesterday I wanted
to and I finally just gave up because if you
go on X and I'm sure on TikTok there's a
bazillion of them, but I don't have a TikTok account.
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If you go on X, there's video after video after
video of mothers who are threatening to come after members
of Congress and kill them if they don't get if
they go to the grocery store and their EBT card
doesn't work, one they're gonna steal the food, and two
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then they're gonna go after whatever politicians they can find.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And they're gonna kill them.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
So that's the gratitude that we get, as the taxpayers
who fund this, or my grandchildren who will fund the
debt that we go into to fund this. It's freaking
unbelievable to me that they're now playing politics with this.
Because Fetterman has agreed, as has I think the Senator
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from New Mexico and one other. We need two other Democrats.
The House passed the clean continuing Resolution, including funding for snapping.
Everything else went to the Senate. I want you to
understand procedurally what's going on in the Senate. We need
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sixty votes. We need five Democrats. We have three. We
need two more Democrats. All would take is Chuck Schumer
to say to his caucus, I need two of you
to go vote for this. It's the same thing that
we voted before and before and before. But Chuck Schumer
will not do it because Chuck Schumer is scared to
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death of some little, whining, little nutjob named AOC, and
he's afraid that she's going to primary him. Kright, frankly,
I hope she does. You know, New York, you might
as well just go down the crap or anyway, if
you're going to elect you know, the Democrat Socialists of America,
the Communists, the guy whose mother says he's not really
(28:14):
an American, he's truly a Ugandan. If you're gonna elect
him to be a mayor, then you might as well
elect AOC to be your US senator to New York.
You're just you're You're dead to me, absolutely dead to me.
And if you're not, you're gonna be dead to your
sales pretty soon. Anyway. Chuck Schumer could change this in
one second if he wanted to, but he won't. He's
the one playing politics. The House Republicans, including House Democrats,
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did their job. They passed this CR on a bipartisan basis.
So if you never went to Schoolhouse Rock and you
don't understand exactly how a bill becomes a bill, remember
mister Bill, Well, no, not that mister Bill from Sunday
Night Live, but the guy that did the hal a
bill becomes a bill, guy that one. Well, the bill
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in this the House, passed by both Republicans and Democrats,
went to the Senate the continuing resolution, the debate on
that is ongoing. To stop the debate, which is called
in parliamentarian rout language, the invoke cloture, meaning stop the debate,
(29:23):
that's what requires sixty votes. That's where we need the
five Democrats, and we have three. It's not even to
pass the continuing resolution, it's just to stop the debate
so that they could then vote, which only takes a majority,
just a majority of those present, not even a majority,
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but just a majority of those present to pass the bill.
That's what Chuck Schumer's playing, So it is all on him.
I've tried to avoid talking about this, but I've just
reached my limit with it because the Democrats are the
ones that are blocking it. Democrats in the House pasted it,
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and some Democrats in the Senate are willing to pass it.
Chuck Schumer is not.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
And some of them may, you know, experience hunger and
food insecurity and be mailnourished.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
But well, yes they may experience, you know, some hunger
and but in terms of being male nourished, they probably are.
All probably are anyway because snaps used primarily to go
to the convenience store and buy a bunch of crap
junk food that they feed at least when you look
at the videos from the people posted on x But
(30:40):
have you ever thought about what snap is, what it costs,
who uses it?
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Well, don't go away, say Michael and Dragon, your rules
of engagement are going to have to change. Don't you
think some of us in the audience, well at least
two of them in the audience, should send you some
ideas for your rules of engagement.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Does this mean I'm going to have to change the dial?
I don't like change. I still have cassette eight track
and reel to reel.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You get the podcast on reel to reel. So there's that.
So what were you saying with the first one about
the rules of engagement?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Well, I mean, nobody listens the entire show, not even me.
So we've just got to continue to hit people over
the head because they're the ones leaving the talkbacks saying
that we need new rules of engagement. So if they're
leaving the talkback saying we need them, so they better
leave them. So if I and there there's quite a
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few of them saying that we need new rules of engagement, so.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Go ahead, Well, but.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
We need to give some guidelines because clearly it's still
the situation with Michael Brown. It's but I'm not quite again.
I've got to learn. I'll ask Mandy, do they the
blonde chick? Shit? Can you believe I've actually got to
I'll have to interface with the blonde chick tossed the.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Whole way daily?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Daily, every day she'll come in and like, m I
hope she doesn't touch me, you know, like, oh, you're like,
can I get any one of those big old hugs.
Maybe I'll just give her a big hug the first
time and then it don't put an end to it.
That way, she'll stay out of the studio until I leave.
You'll she'll hide around the corner until I walk out,
and then she'll sneak in, spray the yesol, do all
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of that. But then we've got to tell them exactly,
like what did they call koa k? They just they
don't have like a tagline or anything.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
They have the tagline, But I mean, it's okay, But the.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Rules of engagement needs people where to go. It's eight
fifty a money four one.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
F you don't you hardly do that here on six
thirty K How why don't?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But I said, but the rules of engagement, I'm not.
I don't carry the load here. They carry the load.
You carry the load. I just come in to fill
in occasionally. Somebody said earlier, was it I was going
to turn into rush limbad just you know, not work
that hard. Yeah, I was thinking more like Johnny Carson,
just you know, every Friday, just tell Tepa, I'm sick.
(33:20):
I got enough sickly. If I could do that for
a couple of years, just every Friday I got the flu.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
But wait a minute, but I would actually do mondays.
People are concerned about Fridays. Oh, they are concerned about Friday.
Let me assure you that on Friday that at eleven
am you will receive your weekly do so that you
can make it through the weekend. You'll get your taxpayer
(33:48):
relief shots. Now I'm telling you, right now, I would
just say to anybody that is a potential new listener
over on the blowtorch, you're gonna you're gonna have a
little bit of an adjustment because we deal in reality.
We're we're this is this is real world stuff. We
(34:10):
talk about so you'll get taxpayer relief shops on Fridays.
That's gonna be a shock.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Poor. You know, if Susan Feeling's Feeland's doing the Susan
Feeling is doing, the traffic on Fridays at noon will
be like, you know, pile ups everywhere because people will
be like, oh my god, why is that on the radio?
How does that on the radio. Probably we'll get snapped
when we get back, because I really do want you
to understand just this is another example of a of
(34:38):
a program that's gone out of control, but because everybody
has shifted their compassion to the government
Speaker 3 (34:46):
For screwed
All morning.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I sat through nine thirty, nine thirty, nine thirty, and
then the minute that nine thirty hit, my phone started
ringing NonStop with an emergency, and so now I missed
nine thirty. I've never been more disappointed for someone to
get a promotion.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It'll work.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
We knew there would be mixed reaction because there's change.
Nobody likes change. Everybody, well I shouldn't say nobody likes change,
but changes. What I find interesting is a lot of
people don't like change. Yet in everybody's life, change is
the one constant. There's all There are always things changing,
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and for me, going to Koa on Monday, November ten
at nine am is going back home. That's literally where
I started on Saturday mornings. It was January like two
thousand and six, I think something like that, and I
was driving all the way down. We lived up the
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Mountains Way north of Boulder, and I was driving all
the way down on Saturday mornings doing a two hours show.
I think it was like either from nine to eleven
or ten to noon, something like that. And Chris Aldinger,
who was the market president at the time, had asked
me to do that because Peter Boyles, who used to
sit in this chair for decades. Had when he found
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out that I was coming back home from DC, had
asked me to go on his local television program. He
had something over at PBS. I forget what it was,
but you know, like a public affairs program. And Peter
didn't know me, and I mate, I knew if Peter
about as much as I knew as you know, I
would hear him occasionally on the radio. But I had
(01:57):
a feeling that Peter thought that bringing me in to
do that show with him that morning, he was going
to just rip me a new one because I was
a Bush appointee and so and he despised George W. Bush.
And it was what I remember is it was like
the week of or the week before Thanksgiving. It was
(02:20):
really snowy, and I was driving all the way down
from the mountains, you know, up north of Boulder to
go downtown Denver, and about halfway, I was thinking to myself,
this is not this isn't worth it. You know, it
is snow packed. It was one of those days you know,
where you're traveling twenty five miles an hour and you're
slipping and sliding, and I thought, ah, it's just not
worth it. I don't want to do this. And then
(02:41):
I thought, but I can't, you know, why not have
a way of contacting him. I guess I could, you know,
call four one one or whatever it used to be
and find out what the number was for PBS. And decided, No,
that's just not that's that's not the right thing to do.
I've made the commitment. I'm going to fulfill the commitment.
I'm going to get there and I'm going to do it.
So we get there, and you know, I put on
(03:03):
a tie and a jacket and they put some makeup
on me, and we sit down. Peter and I visit
for a little bit, and then he starts in and
he starts in with his cross examination. And I don't
know whether he didn't know whether I was a lawyer
or not. I don't know how much he knew about
my background. But it was like I was kind of
taking aback, and I thought, do you really want to
(03:26):
do this? Like I'm thinking, do you really want to fight?
If you really want to fight, you know, let's do
a couple more questions. And this is all going on
in my head and he keeps pounding and pounding, and
it's really not about me. It's more about Bush and
some of the dish decisions that Bush made, and it's
(03:46):
about DHS and blah blah blah. And so I'm like, Okay, oh,
this is what you want, this is what you're going
to get. And so I just fam, I just go
right into the fight just I mean, the fisticuffs are flowing.
And there's at one point where he says something about Bush.
I forget what it was, but I said, well, you
(04:06):
know what you might find ironic, is I actually agree
with you about him. The President made a lot of mistakes,
and the President did a lot of things that I
didn't approve of but were outside my purview, outside my jurisdiction.
So if he's trying to expand the Part D Medicare
drug program, I don't really have I mean, I can,
and I probably did express something to Andy Card or
(04:29):
to Joe Hagen or somebody on the in the Chief
of Staff's office about hey, guys, I think this is
a really bad idea. But I never say anything directly
to the President because the President would look at me
and say, I don't care what you think about Medicare
Part D program. I'm speaking to Tommy Thompson, the Secretary
of Health and Human Services about that. So I just
did not engage in those issues that didn't have anything
(04:50):
to do with what my area was. And you know
why I would do that primarily because you want the
president to pay attention to you when you speak to him.
Do you want the President of the United States to
know that when you're talking to him, you're talking about
an issue that is in your department, in your in
your portfolio, and that he ought to listen to what
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you have to say. And if you're always going off
on a tangent about stuff that really has nothing to
do with what he's assigned you to do, then pretty
soon you become what no noise and Peter was just
a Paull taken aback that I would dare to go
on air as a conservative Republican and criticize a concern
a pseudo a sort of kind of sometimes conservative Republican
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President George W. Bush. And so we go back and
forth like that for I think the program was an hour.
So we go back and forth like that for an hour,
and we finish and he Pete Peter gets up and
he's like, damn, you're really good I thought to myself, well, okay,
so what thanks for the comment, a compliment, whatever. But
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unbeknownst to me, he calls Chris Oldinger, who's the market
president at the time, and says to Chris, hey, I've
interviewed because this is what Chris Oldinger related to me
that Peter Boyles had called her and said, Hey, I
just interviewed this guy that's you know, lives in Colorado.
He's been in DC for six years. He was the
(06:23):
under Secretary of fund maand Security. I just had him
on my public affairs program and he's really really good.
You ought to have him on the radio. So Chris
Oldinger called me and said, we've got this slot on KOA.
Would you like to do it? And I I didn't expect.
I didn't know I was gonna get paid or not
(06:43):
get paid or anything else. I just saw it as
an opportunity to do something that I've always wanted to do,
and that was beyond the radio. So I told Chris absolutely,
I'll do it. So, without even having met Chris until
I think maybe the week before or whatever, I drive down,
(07:04):
I walk into the KOA studios and I sit down
and dragon, you'll love this I'm like, uh, how these
buttons work? Of course, now you know that, almost twenty
years later, I'm still like, you're still having to tell
me that's a double click, Mike.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Hey, you only know the on button, off button, and
next event button over there.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And you're barely good at doing any any of those.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
And it's taking me twenty years. At least I know
how to turn the microphone on and off most of
the time, most of the time, most of the time.
And now I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna
have to learn a new because they got it on
the other side. They got it totally screwed up over there.
But I probably shouldn't bitch and moan about the studio
over there, because well, I think I have a reputation
(07:48):
for already bitching and moaning about studios.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It's in upgrade, but is it?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But really isn't, really isn't. So anyway to finish the
story real quickly, h Chris puts me on, I go
on air and do two hours, and two hours to
me is like nothing. So I do the two hours
and Chris and then Lee Larson. Lee Larson, an icon
(08:15):
in Colorado media, tells Chris Hire that guy hiring, so
they hire me and for I don't know how honestly
you know me, I can flate time, so I don't remember.
I don't remember how long that I was doing that
Saturday program. And I was doing consulting work at the time,
(08:37):
so during the week I was flying off to Chicago
or New York or LA or someplace. And then coming back.
Of course, there was driving tam or crazy. And then
I get up on Saturday mornings and I had drive
all the way down here. I'd cut across US sixty
six and come down I twenty five and oh, it's
just it was a miserable drive, but I did it.
At least it was Saturday. Wasn't too bad. And then
(08:58):
Gunny Bob you remember that name. Yeah, So Gunny Bob disappears.
Gunny Bob says he's going to Afghanistan, and to this day,
nobody really knows where Gunny Bob is.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He's like, I'm just done.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, he just like disappears. And I really wanted that slot.
I wanted that so badly. I couldn't see straight, and
they I can't. I honestly don't remember whether they had
me filling in or what but I finally at some
(09:32):
point we had the old member of the old pit
out here. Yeah, so we had the old pit.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Out here, and so he used to be filled with employees.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, the one was crammed up and it had those
old nasty cubicles and papers were piled everywhere, and Darryl
Luby and everybody was all I mean everybody, the engineers,
everybody was in that pit. They were all in that pit.
And I finally went to Lee Larson and said, I
don't you know, I've kind of been filling in, but
I'd kind of like to do that. And Lee kind
(10:00):
of laughed and said, you mean, no ways to talk
to you yet, because that's what we plan to do.
So I'm beginning to learn that iHeart can be as
bureaucratic as DC was. Yep. And Lee said, yes, that
was our plan. We're going to put you in there.
So they put me in there, and Lee tells me
what they're gonna pay me, and then I'm I'm going
(10:22):
to get a contract, you know, blah blah blah blah,
And I work for I want to say, almost a month.
Still don't find a contract, can't find a contract anymore.
Where's my contract? Where's my contract? And being the lawyer,
I am, I'm like, should I just not show up,
you know?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Or what?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So I called Lee and I said to Lee, I've
been doing this for several weeks and I haven't seen
a contract yet. And I can hear Lee's eyeballs rolling
in his head over the phone. He goes, give me
some time. I'll call you right back. And Lee calls
me back it seems like a couple of hours later
(10:58):
and says, come in, found your contract. It was on
Chris Allingrew's desk, buried on one with a bunch of
buried under a bunch of papers. So I go in
and I assign it and Lee says this to me.
He goes, you'll learn that clear clear channel at the time,
that clear Channel is as bureaucratic as the federal government.
And I said, Lee that that that can't be true.
(11:20):
I've been in the belly of the beast and it
can't be true. I don't know what it was. Maybe
two years later Lee and I are you know when
we actually had Christmas parties or something. I was at
a Christmas party and I said, Lee, you know what,
remember me told me how I clear channel was as
bureaucratic as federal government. You were right, you were exactly right.
(11:41):
Uh huh so uh I did that, and then I'm
doing that for quite a while. Then they for like,
I don't know, a couple of years or something, and
then they come to him and they say, would you
like to do We want you to do afternoon drive
on k how. I jumped at that great opportunity right
(12:01):
Afternoon Drive k how. That was after Capitalist and Silverman
were doing it. So I came in and I did that,
did that for a long time. Then they came to
me and said, oh, you.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Know what, we had an idea.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
We got an idea. We want to put you a
morning drive on k how. And when they came to me,
it was in this hallway back here, and I when
they approached me with the idea, I knew in my
head immediately the answer was yes. But I said to them, well,
I have to think about it. What I really had
(12:35):
to do was go home to tamer and say, hey, listen,
our life, our wife. I was about to change dramatically. Uh,
I'll need to be getting up at you know, four
four thirty in the morning. I'll be I'll be done
by ten, but I'll be tired, and you know, I'll
be going to bed early, and so things are going
to everything's going to shift. And she was, well, that's
(12:55):
that's a that's a great opportunity. You've got to do it.
So I came back the next day and said the
end was, yes, how long they've been doing this six
years or something?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, something like that for five years?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, years and years. Yeah. And so then they come
to us when they come to me, has it been
a week or two?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
We know this? Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah? How long?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
A week? Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
A week? Yesterday? They came to me, and we gone
through this round of layoffs, and everybody is on pins
and eels, wondering if their name's going to be in
the hat, you know, are we going to get drawn?
And so I get the text message, well, I'm out
running errands or something. Can you be in my office
tomorrow ten fifteen? And I think to myself, In fact,
(13:40):
I texted back and said yes, wait a little while,
and then said, do I need to bring a paper
bag to take my stuff home?
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, Let me pick up a banker's
box so I can pass.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Actually the truth was, and I told him. I was
actually at office depot getting some bankers by because I
had all this crap from my mom from my dad's
estate that I needed to pack away. And then I
knew I was going down to see my mom to
take care of that stuff. So I was getting bankers boxes.
And I said, I'm literally at office depot getting bankers boxes.
(14:14):
Do I need to bring one in?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
No, no, I promise you it's good. They promised me
it's good. But then Dragon, when I go to Tepper's office,
Tepper stands up, doesn't shake hands or anything, just says,
come with me, Bas, you'll see Jojo Row. And I'm thinking,
wait a minute. He told me this was good news,
and now we're going to see the boss.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't need the two of you to fire my ass.
Just didn't just tell me.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Look, I've been through this before. Just tell me I'm done.
I'll get my stuff. That's why I have minimal stuff
on my desk. I can be out of here in
three minutes. You don't have to escort me either. By
the way, here's my key card, which doesn't work half
the time. I'll just go and be out of your hair. No, no, no, no,
Tepper's now dragging me in to see Jojo, and JoJo's
sitting all there kind of pomp. Was like, oh oh y,
(15:00):
I'm thinking, oh, good grief, here we go. And then
they throw this at me. Instantaneously, I say yes, because
I'm going back home to Koa. Going back home to Koa, which,
if you recall, is originally Rush Limboslat, that's the old
(15:20):
Rush was on from ten to one originally before they
finally decided to or what was it ten to one?
I forget. They time shifted Russia show something right.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And then they moved him to be actually live, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
To be actually live. So it was then ten to
ten to one or something. Uh, So I'm excited about it.
It's part here, here's part of the deal Koa. We're
gonna stir up Koa. And that's why I need it.
(15:52):
And that's why I need all of you goobers. And
I know all of you can't and I understand that.
So you know, there's only twelve of you plus the Ultraman.
So if two of you can't, we've got three or
four in the wings that are waiting, and we'll and
trust us. You can talk to you can talk to
the twelve that are on the jury now and the alternate.
(16:13):
We pay damn well, we do. We pay you very
very well to listen to us because we need the
ratings and we need the sponsors, so we share our
wealth with you. We're socialists, We're just pure communists and socialists.
And if you don't do it, then we'll force you
to do it, because then we just become fashionsts and
make you do it so that we'll do it that
(16:34):
way too. Nothing's going to change. That was my very
first question to both Jojoe and Tepper was what do
you want? It's the same thing that when the Premiere
came to me about doing the nationally syndicated program. I
asked Julie Talbot Talbot who is the president of Premier,
(16:55):
and Bill May, who's the program director. I said, what
are you looking for? Well, they've been listening to the
program and they said, we want exactly what you're doing now.
We don't want anything to change. Okay. So that was
my same question to Joe, Jo and Temper, what are
you looking for? We want exactly what you're doing now.
And I thought, and I even said to them, are
(17:15):
you sure.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
You know what we do? Right?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You sure, Yeah, And I know they've both. I know
they've both listened to us and I but I didn't
realize just how much over the past almost year they've
actually been listening. Then I find out that Chris Berry,
who is their boss's boss, and that I know personally
he is a good guy, he's been listening, as has
(17:40):
been Brad Harden, who also noted he's Those are the
only two Culprit guys that I really know personally they've
been listening. So they've all signed off of So we're
gonna go over there. We're gonna stir the pops and
I need you to help me go stir the pot,
all right, So going back home, going back home to Koa,
(18:00):
and we're gonna have them last. It'll be a shock
of the first day. Yeah, it'll wake them up. Hey,
Michael and Dragon, this is Jennifer. Congratulations on your transition.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You're one of us.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Now go get boys for girls.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You gotta be freaking joking me, private earballs, you're getting
an extra hour off a day.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Who do you think you are?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Rush Limbaugh, This's gotta be some kind of DEEI promotion. No, seriously,
congratulations on your promotion.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Guys, here's what we need. We'll still be doing talkbacks,
still doing the same text line. That doesn't change because
I can't let those other people use our dedicated text line.
That's not gonna change. And we'll need eventually, and Dragon,
I started talking about this yesterday, we'll need new rules
(18:54):
of engagement, So Chris, you know what, Chris, I'm talking about,
Force Gump. We'll need we'll need new rules of engagement,
but we're gonna have some guidelines for them. So I'll
try to come up with the guidelines and we'll get
those up on the website. But we will need new
rules of engagement.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
And trust me, you do not want Michael to do
the rules of engagement. That's how it all started. Michael
would spend you know, five ten minutes talking about the
rules of engagement because he's really bad at it. So
we need some of you professionals out there to give
us something a minute or less.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
To do the rules of engagement.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You're going with me over there? Yeah, how did that happen?
I don't know. Yeah, I think I still have that
notebook where I begged them to make sure you state
as my producer.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
How would that work out for you.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Well, let's just say that sometimes you just you learn
from sometimes you know, learn from your mistakes and you
make the same request. Is anything going to change in
quitting dragon thing he's gonna change?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Well, isn't that the definition of insanity?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
It is, that's totally insanity. But you know what, may
I at my age, I don't give a rats ass.
So there's that. Let's see, there was a text that
I wanted to share.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Here.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
It is Goober number sixty ninety five Mike wrt Fresh
cool kids. We know that means with regard to with
regard to nine thirty, I don't give her rats ass.
I listened to the podcast here in Burbank, California. Now
let's just stop right there. Thank you. I will get
the map. I gotta get the map. I know you
(20:42):
look at me like, well share you up bull craft
when I see it, right, So the podcast will stay
the same. Also, same RSS feed everything. But here's what
I thought. I it's been it's been a while since
I've been in Burbank. In fact, the last time I
was in LA I didn't make it to Burbank. I
was on the South side anyway. Here. I listened to
(21:06):
podcasts here in Burbank, California, where the cops are allowed
to do their jobs, an island of sanity between sodom
and Gomorrah. No tenths on the sidewalk here, what.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Oh, what take pictures? We don't believe you, We don't believe.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You, but then we just kind of expect that. Well, yeah,
you all lie to us all the way, all the time. Anyway. Uh,
and then let's see seventy four to thirty one, Mike,
congrats on the promotion. Moving over to the fifty thousand,
what blowtorch? The seat once held by the great Mike Rosen.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Who's that?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Mike?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Who?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Rosan? Who's that guy? Beat me?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I have?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I don't know, must have been you know, probably somebody'd
sat in that seat for every time and always said,
you know what, what was? He always had this habit
of mister button, mister Cole buttons Button. Yeah, mister hoole button.
I wish you well and I'll miss your show on
my two and before school starts. Well, you know you
can always put the little secret little hearing aid in
your ear, butt in your ear and listen to me
(22:11):
that way. All right, let's get started. I've kind of
reached my limit with the Democrats complaining and bitching and
moaning about Well, here's Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
So Trump is weaponizing hunger. He's turning millions of children
and seniors and veterans into political pawns. He's choosing politics
over people, cruelty over compassion.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And let's be clear about this. They've been on a crusade.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
The Republicans have been on a crusade against SNAP all year.
They slashed it by two hundred billion dollars this summer
to pay for their tax cuts for billionaires. So they
don't They've never wanted SNAP, and they don't want it now.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Really, Chuck, weaponizing hunger? Is that what you think is
going on? Weaponizing hunger? Hunger? Then an Iraqi refugee, this
comes from, uh, well apparently this take you listen, without.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Government support, I cannot stay maybe a month or two.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Months, PEMA County Chairman Rex Scott told News for Tucson
he's deeply concerned about the impact on local refugees, and so.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
An Iraqi refugee is telling the Tucson City Council or commissioners.
I'm not sure which one it was, I can't stay
here without SNAP benefits. Okay, maybe before you came to
the United States, and I don't know what his background.
I don't know whether he's one of our you know,
(24:01):
he was one of our interpreters, or he was you
know what he did. But then go back go home.
It really bugs me to think that we're playing politics
with this program that quite frankly, is out of control.
We're not addressing Remember how they always used to talk
(24:22):
about Democrats talk about the root causes of things. We
got to a deal. We've got to deal with the
root causes. Well, why not deal with the root causes
of the SNAP program.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Michelle white House has said that building the ballroom is
their top priority. Is Donald Trump's top priority? Was miss
Levitt's quote. So again, one of the I think distinctions
between a first term and a second term is that
which is most unpopular is most front and center. And
it gets to what Charlie's talking about. The Hebrews. John Jabra,
(24:58):
who I just interviewed from my podcast, said he's sort
of over trying to figure out why he's doing something.
We should just talk about the ramifications of the consequences.
So I'm going to try to live that lesson the
ramifications of letting foodstamps expire is that children will die,
and again some of them may be the children of people.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Who voted for him.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
They're gonna die. The children are going to die because
there is we are such an a whole country that
there is not a food bank anywhere. There's not a
church anywhere, there's not a charitable organization, there's nothing in
the private sector anywhere that's going to feed kids. In fact,
the billionaires that look like the little Monopoly character, you know,
(25:37):
the billionaire and Monopoly, they're just walking around smoking their
big fat ass cigars, going, huh, let them eat cake, which,
by the way, Marie Antwine never said, but let them
eat cake. Yeah, that's the Democrat's version of the snap program.
(25:58):
They children are going going to die because they can't
get their bag of potato chips. Now, yesterday I wanted
to and I finally just gave up because if you
go on X and I'm sure on TikTok there's a
bazillion of them, but I don't have a TikTok account.
(26:18):
If you go on X, there's video after video after
video of mothers who are threatening to come after members
of Congress and kill them if they don't get if
they go to the grocery store and their EBT card
doesn't work, one they're gonna steal the food, and two
(26:40):
then they're gonna go after whatever politicians they can find.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And they're gonna kill them.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
So that's the gratitude that we get, as the taxpayers
who fund this, or my grandchildren who will fund the
debt that we go into to fund this. It's freaking
unbelievable to me that they're now playing politics with this.
Because Fetterman has agreed, as has I think the Senator
(27:10):
from New Mexico and one other. We need two other Democrats.
The House passed the clean continuing Resolution, including funding for snapping.
Everything else went to the Senate. I want you to
understand procedurally what's going on in the Senate. We need
(27:31):
sixty votes. We need five Democrats. We have three. We
need two more Democrats. All would take is Chuck Schumer
to say to his caucus, I need two of you
to go vote for this. It's the same thing that
we voted before and before and before. But Chuck Schumer
will not do it because Chuck Schumer is scared to
(27:52):
death of some little, whining, little nutjob named AOC, and
he's afraid that she's going to primary him. Kright, frankly,
I hope she does. You know, New York, you might
as well just go down the crap or anyway, if
you're going to elect you know, the Democrat Socialists of America,
the Communists, the guy whose mother says he's not really
(28:14):
an American, he's truly a Ugandan. If you're gonna elect
him to be a mayor, then you might as well
elect AOC to be your US senator to New York.
You're just you're You're dead to me, absolutely dead to me.
And if you're not, you're gonna be dead to your
sales pretty soon. Anyway. Chuck Schumer could change this in
one second if he wanted to, but he won't. He's
the one playing politics. The House Republicans, including House Democrats,
(28:38):
did their job. They passed this CR on a bipartisan basis.
So if you never went to Schoolhouse Rock and you
don't understand exactly how a bill becomes a bill, remember
mister Bill, Well, no, not that mister Bill from Sunday
Night Live, but the guy that did the hal a
bill becomes a bill, guy that one. Well, the bill
(28:59):
in this the House, passed by both Republicans and Democrats,
went to the Senate the continuing resolution, the debate on
that is ongoing. To stop the debate, which is called
in parliamentarian rout language, the invoke cloture, meaning stop the debate,
(29:23):
that's what requires sixty votes. That's where we need the
five Democrats, and we have three. It's not even to
pass the continuing resolution, it's just to stop the debate
so that they could then vote, which only takes a majority,
just a majority of those present, not even a majority,
(29:44):
but just a majority of those present to pass the bill.
That's what Chuck Schumer's playing, So it is all on him.
I've tried to avoid talking about this, but I've just
reached my limit with it because the Democrats are the
ones that are blocking it. Democrats in the House pasted it,
(30:04):
and some Democrats in the Senate are willing to pass it.
Chuck Schumer is not.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
And some of them may, you know, experience hunger and
food insecurity and be mailnourished.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
But well, yes they may experience, you know, some hunger
and but in terms of being male nourished, they probably are.
All probably are anyway because snaps used primarily to go
to the convenience store and buy a bunch of crap
junk food that they feed at least when you look
at the videos from the people posted on x But
(30:40):
have you ever thought about what snap is, what it costs,
who uses it?
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Well, don't go away, say Michael and Dragon, your rules
of engagement are going to have to change. Don't you
think some of us in the audience, well at least
two of them in the audience, should send you some
ideas for your rules of engagement.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Does this mean I'm going to have to change the dial?
I don't like change. I still have cassette eight track
and reel to reel.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You get the podcast on reel to reel. So there's that.
So what were you saying with the first one about
the rules of engagement?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Well, I mean, nobody listens the entire show, not even me.
So we've just got to continue to hit people over
the head because they're the ones leaving the talkbacks saying
that we need new rules of engagement. So if they're
leaving the talkback saying we need them, so they better
leave them. So if I and there there's quite a
(31:46):
few of them saying that we need new rules of engagement, so.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Go ahead, Well, but.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
We need to give some guidelines because clearly it's still
the situation with Michael Brown. It's but I'm not quite again.
I've got to learn. I'll ask Mandy, do they the
blonde chick? Shit? Can you believe I've actually got to
I'll have to interface with the blonde chick tossed the.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Whole way daily?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Daily, every day she'll come in and like, m I
hope she doesn't touch me, you know, like, oh, you're like,
can I get any one of those big old hugs.
Maybe I'll just give her a big hug the first
time and then it don't put an end to it.
That way, she'll stay out of the studio until I leave.
You'll she'll hide around the corner until I walk out,
and then she'll sneak in, spray the yesol, do all
(32:32):
of that. But then we've got to tell them exactly,
like what did they call koa k? They just they
don't have like a tagline or anything.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
They have the tagline, But I mean, it's okay, But the.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Rules of engagement needs people where to go. It's eight
fifty a money four one.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
F you don't you hardly do that here on six
thirty K How why don't?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But I said, but the rules of engagement, I'm not.
I don't carry the load here. They carry the load.
You carry the load. I just come in to fill
in occasionally. Somebody said earlier, was it I was going
to turn into rush limbad just you know, not work
that hard. Yeah, I was thinking more like Johnny Carson,
just you know, every Friday, just tell Tepa, I'm sick.
(33:20):
I got enough sickly. If I could do that for
a couple of years, just every Friday I got the flu.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
But wait a minute, but I would actually do mondays.
People are concerned about Fridays. Oh, they are concerned about Friday.
Let me assure you that on Friday that at eleven
am you will receive your weekly do so that you
can make it through the weekend. You'll get your taxpayer
(33:48):
relief shots. Now I'm telling you, right now, I would
just say to anybody that is a potential new listener
over on the blowtorch, you're gonna you're gonna have a
little bit of an adjustment because we deal in reality.
We're we're this is this is real world stuff. We
(34:10):
talk about so you'll get taxpayer relief shops on Fridays.
That's gonna be a shock.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Poor. You know, if Susan Feeling's Feeland's doing the Susan
Feeling is doing, the traffic on Fridays at noon will
be like, you know, pile ups everywhere because people will
be like, oh my god, why is that on the radio?
How does that on the radio. Probably we'll get snapped
when we get back, because I really do want you
to understand just this is another example of a of
(34:38):
a program that's gone out of control, but because everybody
has shifted their compassion to the government
Speaker 3 (34:46):
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