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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Michael, you're going to have to have a whole
new set of rules of engagement. You might want to
start soliciting bids on that, because I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sure there might be a few that.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Will want to do new rules of engagement story. Ah
a mission, great, Count me in.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I'll be there when you move.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Good, good, real quick about the rules of engagements. Yeah,
I know how you guys think, because we are one
of you, do not do not wait until the last minute, seriously,
because I need to record them and put them into
the system and create all new rotational carts and all

(00:40):
that kind of stuff, which takes a lot of time
for me. So if you're doing this on Sunday the ninth,
they will not air.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
He's gonna do a little work shata. I'm happy to
do the work.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
I'm just not going to do it last minute because
you've failed to plan.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And yet think keep playing that promo about how I
love we love you guys. Of all the things they
could have picked out, they picked that out. Yep, so
they got us lying already.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Well, you know it's some corporate sumbo, some mumbo jumbo
guy that put that together. It's not we have somebody
in house to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, AJ may have done it.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
AJ's busy with the Broncos. He also does the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
What do you mean we're not the priority? What?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
What do you even think we'll be the priority once
we move over the hall?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Do I think I've been the priority for the past
twenty years? No?

Speaker 5 (01:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, all right, So as I say, as I say,
nothing is changing. We're just you know, I told my mom.
I was told I couldn't tell anybody except Tammar. But
I did tell my mother. I thought that was kind
of safe, and she went to know where Tamar and
I were moving to. You guys are moving.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Closer to home. It'd be great to have you guys
so close.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I actually I had a friend asked me the same thing,
but they didn't think it was necessarily like out of town.
It was just like somewhere else in town. How many
feet do you think it is over there?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Thirty?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'm gonna say thirty or forty feet? Yeah, so yeah,
we're moving, but we'll need a moving van. We'll need
volunteers to come in and do all the move for us.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
So really, you want to bring some of this crap
over there? They've got new crap over there. Let me look, Hey,
there's only see one thing in here that I'd like
to take over there. There's no exposed drywall over there. Wait, nope,
there is like a four by four square never mind.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
What's that for?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's still got the old wrap on it.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh really, I'll bring a can of sprout. I'll go
to Home Deep one and get some spray paint.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I think it's some you know, valve or pipe or
something behind the wall.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
So, yeah, there is there is just one thing in
here i'd like to take over there.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Oh yeah, that that's you can ask. Feel free to ask.
It's not gonna happen, but go ahead and ask.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I can't believe there's not too. First of all, they
have the space for two monitors. Yeah, so why aren't
there two monitors?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Reason I need?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I need a monitor for next Gen. I need a
monitor for Do they have the same version of the
I assume they have the same version of Adobe Audition.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
They even have cool Edit over there because one of
the other guys couldn't work auditions, so they put cool.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Edited on it too.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Really, okay, so we got so I'll need I'll need
next gym available. I need over here for Adobe Audition
and the breaking news websites that I keep up, and
then all still have my laptop. Maybe I'll just maybe
I'll bring in two laptops.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
And I'm sure they've got tons of room for you
to put your laptop up in front of those screens.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm wondering how I want to see you through the
microphone to see my laptop. That'll be interesting too, are you.
I think Saturday, while I'm in here, I should go
sit down and actually kind of figure out movement emplacement.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, that'll be helpful.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I think that would as opposed to come in that
Monday morning.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Never forget it, just do it live on the air
at ten at nine oh one.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's right, you give the great first impression. Yeah, where
are the buttons? Where's the button? Is this microphone on? Okay,
back to Snap because I think you're going to be
And again I'm not trying to infuriate. I'm just trying
to inform you about the truth, because nobody's telling you

(04:47):
the facts about Snap. Instead, it's children are going to
die on the streets, Mothers are going to starve, families
will fall all apart. The world is coming to an end.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Well, I just want to marinate on what you said,
that building the ballroom is the number one priority.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Let's just sit with that for a minute.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
How is that possible that that is the number one
priority with everything that is going on right now?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
What they make the same mistake of taking Trump literally
as opposed to taking Trump seriously. You like, you should
not take me literally. If you do, you're missing out
on when you're missing out and have the fun. And
two you're missing out on the truth.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
And five American children rely on SAT benefits.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Did you hear that? Now? How many times do we
hear Bernie Sanders or somebody else talk about where the
wealthiest nation on the planet. You know, we should have
free this and free that and free everything else.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Already, with everything that is going on right now, one
in five American children one in five.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
You know, not very good at math, but that's twenty percent,
twenty percent, twenty percent of kids on food stamps.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Rely on SNAP benefits. One in five. That's a huge number.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
And while the administration tries to pretend that Snap benefits
gobble up a.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Sheep, Well, we'll get dragon whispers in my ear. Maybe
it was overrare.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Now it's just in your year. But I'm just curious,
is that an accurate number?

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Hang tight huge portion of the American budget.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's just simply not true. There are reserves that they
could reach to.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
They could extend those benefits in November if they wanted to.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
They're just wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
If there are reserves, let's just say generically, there are
reserves somewhere, so their priority would be to feed the children.
Oh wait a minute. When I say feed the children,
that reminds me. In Chicago there is an organization called
Feed the Children. Huh, So there's a private sector, charitable
organization that could feed the children. But don't miss the point.

(07:07):
If she's going to claim that there is a reserve somewhere,
don't you think instead that we ought to be paying
air traffic controllers now? Newark Airport already sucks. I read
a great story about Newark Airport recently about how it's
poor design and its location within that New York metropolitan
area the Tri state area makes it one of the

(07:29):
worst airports in the world for on time departures and
arrivals because of the layout, and now because of air
traffic control shortages, it's they're suffering even worse, well, why
don't we take those reserves and do that because that's

(07:50):
essential to the economy, or pay the military because that's
essential to national defense and national security. You see, they
just want to use so called reasons deserves for their
pet projects.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Choosing not to and the question of this being a
partisan matter, I agree with Charlie. I think that we
are at a hinge point right now. The pain is
going to be real for Americans very soon. Not just abstract.
It's going to be real.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I want you to think about that, because you hear
that a lot that pretty soon people are going to
start suffering. Now. Other than as far as I know,
I don't have any trips planned in the near future.
That doesn't mean that something won't come up that I
don't need to run out to da and jump on

(08:36):
a plane and go somewhere. But honestly, this is not
going This government shut down is not going to affect
my life. If we've reached the point in the country
where the now if we get invaded, you know, if
if Maduro or Putin or she decided that they want

(08:58):
to invade the United States, you know, read down, Well,
I want those troops paid. I don't want to have
to pull out all of my guns and run to
the undisclosed location and start protecting myself from invading marauders. Otherwise,
this government shut down doesn't truly affect me, at least

(09:21):
in a negative way that I can think of. If
we're so dependent upon the federal government that everyone's claiming
that we're all going to start suffering pain, then I
would say the government's too big, and I would say
we've gotten way too dependent upon the federal government. So

(09:42):
rather than talk about how do we figure our way
out of this situation and how do we resolve this
problem of a government that's too big and too powerful
and too controlling, instead what they want to do, Oh,
they just want to find reserves so they can continue
to grow and grow and grow this government. We're going
to grow ourselves if we're not already part way there

(10:06):
into a socialist, fascist, Marxist communist government, and in many
ways we already have.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
They're going to fill it in their health care prices.
They're going to fill it in their food prices.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
They're going to see it.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Food and healthcare two very important things. I want good
quality healthcare and I like to eat. Why should the
government have an impact on either one of those things. Why,
you know, God rest his soul. But John McCain can

(10:46):
bite my ass because but for him, we could have
repealed Obamacare and we could have been on the road
to getting the government out of the healthcare business. But
John McCain, ostensibly a republic stuck his spraggly little thumb
down and said no. So everything that she lists, I'm thinking,

(11:09):
wait a minute, We've got government involved in some of
the very essential aspects of people's lives, and it shouldn't
be in.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
A very visible way.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
And you know you talked about the farmers and the ranchers.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Beef prices are up right now.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, why because the government has failed to enforce the
anti trust laws. And as I explained you the last
week or week before, the meat packing cartel is the
problem with high beef prices. It's not the poor farmers
and ranchers. I understand that they've got a problem with
some of the things that Trump is doing. I totally

(11:45):
understand that. In fact, I haven't agree with some of that,
But their real problem is not Trump. Their real problem
is the meat packing cartels. But this one is too
dumb to know that or maybe she's not dumb. She
knows precisely what she's doing, and that's just playing to
people's emotions.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
We're going into Thanksgiving, Turkey prizes are up by almost
forty percent and many of the people.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's interesting because we played the SoundBite from the chief
executive officer of Walmart that says you can actually go
buy a a complete turkey dinner, a complete Thanksgiving dinner
at Walmart. And it was what was it twenty percent
lower than it was last year or something. Yes, So
this is just MSNBC doing nothing more than just playing

(12:32):
on people's fears. So let's talk about SNAP for a moment.
Used to be known as food stamps, but we can't
say that anymore. That's plically incorrect. Now we just call
it SNAP the supplement and I want you to think
about this language supplemental. That's interesting. So it shouldn't be
the primary supplemental nutrition. How much of the SNAP money

(12:56):
goes to nutritionally high nutritional valued meals assistance program. It's
an assistance program. You should not be dependent upon it.
It is something to assist you. Formally known as food stamps.
It is the largest food assistance initiative. It supports more

(13:21):
than forty one million Americans every single month. Forty one
million Americans. That is despicable. Now, some people truly do
need it. As I've always said, we need to have
a basic social safety net. But that social safety net,
which should be down here about where my ankles are,

(13:43):
instead is here above my above my nose. I can't
breathe because that social safety net is so freaking high.
It costs taxpayers and average of about one hundred billion
dollars annually as of last fiscal year. So you got
forty one point seven million people, which is what twelve

(14:06):
point three percent or so of the American population, more
than ten percent, more than ten percent of the American
population gets SNAP benefits every single month, at least for
the fiscal year of twenty twenty four. Now, participation varies
by state. It's not every it's not equally distributed. New
Mexico has a participation rate that exceeds twenty one percent.

(14:28):
So almost a quarter of the people where my undisclosed
location is more than almost a quarter of the people
twenty one percent depend upon food stamps. Yeah, I call
them food stamps. We need to be we need to
be real in our language. Utah's participation rate is under
five percent. I make fun of Mormons, but maybe Mormons

(14:52):
are doing something right.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's pretty shocking there.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
When you think the average Mormon family has like four
or five kids, I mean, you would think they would
be a mouch off the system, more so than the
than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
But oddly enough, not.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oddly enough not and oddly enough, when Mormons have a
family in one of their churches, in one of their
I forget what they call them, but when they when
they have somebody that's hungry, oh, they take care of themselves. Now,
the majority of people are participating in SNAP are low
income individuals or family about thirty nine percent of that

(15:28):
forty one point seven million people being children. Forty two
percent are adults between the ages of eighteen and fifty nine.
The total federal spending reached ninety eight ninety nine point
eight to one hundred point three billion in twenty twenty four.
Do you know that that is almost sivy more than

(15:49):
one point five percent of all federal spending. We have
a multi trillion dollar budget, and we spend almost two
percent of that on doing nothing but feeding American citizens. Ah,
let me rephrase it. We do nothing, but we spend
almost two percent of a multi trillion budget feeding people

(16:12):
in this country. Yeah, because they're not all American citizens.
The bulk of that ninety four billion is spent on
direct benefits. Well, where does the other six billion dollars go? Oh,
administrative costs and support programs. The average monthly benefit per

(16:33):
person was about per person, not per family, not per household.
Per person is about one hundred and eighty eight dollars,
translating into more than two thy two hundred dollars annually
per per participant. So you got approximately twelve point three

(16:53):
percent of the population the reiland SNAP at some point
last year. Now, participation rates are marketingly higher among certain groups,
particularly households with children that's over nineteen verse almost twenty percent,
especially single parent households. The program serves as a critical
safety net, for safety net for families that experience what

(17:17):
they call food in security. This is now, that's according
to the USDA. That's what they call it food in security. Now.
The vast majority of SNAP participants are indeed US born citizens.
They are American citizens. Now. This is according to USDA
and to the policy experts that I could, I can

(17:38):
find online. What percent of recipients are US born citizens?
Do you have any guests? Eighty nine percent? Yes, eighty
nine percent. That's less than one hundred percent. What makes
up the rest of participation for recipium?

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Good morning, fellas, did my earballs here correctly that you're
disrupting all of our mornings so that you get to
sleep in. I guess we'll enjoy you on our drives
into work while we can, and then we'll follow you
somewhere else, because you know we'd follow you to the
end of the world.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Have a good morning, Michael and Dragon. At least you'll
be thirty or forty feet closer to the bathrooms now.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
First thing, Absolutely love that earballs is still catching on
you to going, I do fantastic. Bring your earballs over
with us to Koe on the on the tenth Yeah,
be great.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Really appreciate that thirty or forty feet.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Closer to the bathroom doesn't help if we still have
to go down to the third floor.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
It just seems to have come to a halt. It's
kind of like, you know, the government shut down. We
just you know, we just need like we don't we
don't even need five senators. We just need Richard Nixon.
Just like one Watergate plumber, we just get one Watergate
plumber to go finish.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
What I'm a firm believer is that it's just how
things are here in iHeart because we've we've did construction
here in the building six years ago, seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Is it done.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
No, there's still ceiling tiles missing, there's still electrical wires
coming out of the walls. But no, it's it's good enough.
Just like the bathroom, it's good enough. The urals don't work,
the toilets are a little questionable, but the sinks work.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
To your play bet, it's just good enough. That's why
we have such a crappy attitude about trying to produce
a quality product. Why why should we, you know, do
anything exceptionally well. When they put the clock up, they
go to all the trouble to put that digital clock
up on that wall, and they don't connect it.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yep, I firmly believe they don't know that it's not finished.
The sign has been taken down that, you know, please
use the third floor, although that sign has.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Been moved to where the urinals are.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Because the urinals are just because I've tried to just
check the urinals and work, and they just they've cut
the water off.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Well, the toilets will make noise, But whether or not
the water actually flows out and fills back up, I
don't know about.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
It dusk, because I've checked that. The question I have
is where does it go? That's what I wonder. Where
does it go?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
The sinks work, and they look great, and they're soap.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
And the funny have they put the little basket there
with this? I feel? Oh, I feel so I feel
so at home because I've got a basket with soaps
in it. Oh, except what the soap smells like, Oh, absolutely,
it's awful. Off. I want to make something abundantly clear.

(21:07):
I'm not trying to be an a hole when it
comes to hungry kids or poor families that need help
with food. What I am upset about is that we
have absolutely, unequivocally abandoned our individual responsibility as just human

(21:29):
beings to care for one another, and instead we just, oh,
we just want the government to do it. And that's
the way it starts out. And then it grows and
it grows, and it grows and it grows, and pretty soon,
you know why, why think when I think my taxes

(21:50):
were not done until a few weeks ago because I
have to wait for one K or whatever it is
to to get done by a company that I have
some interest in. So I finally get it done and
I get it back, and I look at how much

(22:11):
money I pay in taxes. It is the equivalent. Let's
just say it's a boatload of money. It's a boatload
of money. I could take that money, and I would
be more than happy to take my pro rate a

(22:32):
share to fund the military, and of course to fund
you know, whatever my income taxes go to fund that
I think is necessary the military, air traffic controllers. Well
beyond that, I'm not really sure, the FBI, the Department
of Justice, ICE, I'm not going to fund TSA's a joke.

(22:57):
Airlines can pay for that, which I'd pay for in
the ticket anyway. But I think about the amount of
money that I could contribute to feed the children. I
think it's actually called Feeding America now, the group in Chicago,
I just because I know somebody that used to work

(23:18):
there Feeding America, I could write them a check for
I don't know, ten to fifteen thousand dollars. A lot
of people could write a check for one hundred dollars
five hundred dollars, and they could feed children. Churches, people
could give more to their churches and feed children. It's

(23:38):
not that I don't want to feed the children. I
don't want the government doing it. Because once you put
a family on that, you tell me what the incentive
is to get them off that. And in fact, the bureaucrats,
if you understand how the bureaucracy works, they have an
incentive to grow that program even larger. And the unions
which represent those bureaucrats have a reason to grow that

(24:02):
program even larger because that means more bureaucrats, that means
more members. It is a self fulfilling circle of evil.
In my opinion, it's awful. So back to some of
the data about SNAP. The vast majority are US citizens,

(24:23):
and as I said, eighty nine percent are US born citizens.
Less than eleven percent, I'd say it's like ten point nine.
Let's just say eleven percent are foreign born, including naturalized citizens, refugees,
legally present non citizens, so illegal aliens, non citizens, which

(24:48):
before I tell you the number, let me tell you
this eligibility for illegal aliens. Federal law bars undocumented immigrants
illegal aliens from SNAP. It bars them from it, Yet
non citizens make up almost five percent of SNAP recipients

(25:12):
as of twenty twenty two. I couldn't yet find the
number four twenty twenty four. I'll keep looking. That's roughly
as of twenty twenty two, one point seven million people,
with the cost of those benefits around five point seven
billion dollars for fiscal year twenty twenty two. So you

(25:32):
know it's more than that now. So despite federal law
prohibiting illegal aliens from receiving SNAP benefits, oh, there's still
about eleven percent that do. I'm sorry, four percent that
do one point seven million, and you know it's actually
more than that now. There is an exception in a
mixed status household families with some members legally present others

(25:57):
here illegally. Only theligible members of the family can receive
the benefits, but not the undocumented individuals themselves. Okay, how
many of you believe that's what really happens, because if
you do, you might be some kind of dumbass. There

(26:19):
was one article I found that said, quote, fear of
repercussions or impact immigration cases often deters undocumented individuals from
even applying for SNAP even when their US born children
are eligible. And I thought long and hard about that sentence,

(26:40):
and I thought, okay, well, good, good, because then if
they want to feed their kids, even if they are
undocumented and here illegally, that family is still going to
try to figure a way to feed those kids. But
if they receive them, they'll just use that money to
feed the the kids, but the children are going to die.

(27:06):
Trying to find precise country of origin data for non
citizen recipients is not released by the USDA. I dug
and I dug and I dug and I could not
find the countries of origin for non citizen recipients. Now
I think there might be a reason for that, because

(27:27):
that would be an admission that you're violating federal law.
So trying to find those stats, and I've seen it
on X and I've seen, you know, different places where
people have claimed that, oh, here are all the different
countries of origin where people are receiving SNAP benefits who
are here illegally. I question those because when I go

(27:48):
to the source, I don't seem to be able to
find any source, original source material. Let's break it down
ethnically among all SNAP recipients Caucasians account for between thirty
five and thirty seven percent, Wax account for twenty five

(28:11):
or twenty six percent, Hispanic, fifteen to sixteen percent Asian,
three to four percent Native American, Indian, about one percent.
Mixed status immigrant families are common among non citizen recipients,
most often including US born children. So you know that

(28:32):
the US born children are therefore eligible, but their families
are not. Then you have you ever thought about how
this program actually works, because all the federal government does
is just to pass through. I'll explain that next.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
From Fort Smith, Montana.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Good morning, congratulations guys on your move over the KOA
blow towards eight fifty eight week Mike, find it rather
ironic that the political party it is all in our
abortion is now complaining that not seating children might kill them.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Is that the definition of irony? I don't know, or
cognitive dissonance one or the other. So here are a
couple of noteworthy details I want you to know about this. First,
this is a federally funded but the state's administer of
the program. So you got a double bureaucracy. You got
the bureaucracy in DC that you know takes in the

(29:34):
money from the Internal Revenue Service collects the money, Congress
appropriates that, it goes to OMB and then it finally
gets down to the Department of Agriculture, which administers this program.
So that one dollar in taxes that you spend gets
eaten up to you know, about five or ten cents
whatever it might be in the federal bureaucracy, and then
it gets transferred to the state. And then the state

(29:57):
has its own bureaucracy that disperses the So now that
dollar that's been reduced to, say ninety cents, gets reduced
to say eighty five cents. So your dollar that goes
to food Stamp, which is not really a dollar. The
overwhelming majority of the funding, somewhere between ninety three and
ninety five percent, comes from the FEDS, which pays directly

(30:18):
for the benefit of amounts, but shares in some of
the administrative costs. So now all of that dollar gets
shrunk even further. Now, the states generally contribute only to
the cost of administering the program, not to the benefits themselves.
In this current fiscal year, federal funding for state administrative

(30:39):
costs was a half a billion dollars. We spent a
hat with five hundred and thirty six million dollars to
administer this program. If you've ever wondered about the size
of government, you think about a business, a five hundred

(31:00):
thirty six million dollar business. How many employees would that be,
how many distribution offices would they have across the country,
what kind of regional structure would they have in terms
of you know, a CEO the C suite, and then
regional vice presidents everywhere, and then worker bees across all
fifty seven states.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
That's a five.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Hundred and thirty six million dollar business just to administer
this program. And of course they get the recipients to
get it via the EBT cards, and the monthly allotments
are calculated based on the size of the household, your income,
certain expenses, and all the federal guidelines which vary based

(31:42):
upon the geography. Now, the core I haven't done the
math on this. I should have. I'm sorry I didn't
do it. But the core eligibility requires a house Now
this is household, not individual. Requires a household income at
or below one hundred thirty of the federal poverty line

(32:03):
adjusted for deductions and expenses, and your legal residency status,
which I keep thinking to myself.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Wait, now, that's according to the Food Service uh, the
food Stamp program on the USDA website. So why is
it that it's the core eligibility requires a household income
added below one hundred and thirty percent of the federal
poverty line, adjusted for deductions and expenses, and legal residency status. Well,

(32:36):
if you if you're not a legal resident, if you're
an illegal alien, and by federal law you are barred
from it, why would that go into the calculation? You see,
nobody knows the f what's really going on here? Now?
Since since this year this the Republican Congress has further

(32:57):
restricted eligibility for non citizens. I guess that it wasn't
good enough to begin with. They've limited SNAP primarily to
Green card holders and certain protected groups. And there's a
work requirement mandatory work participation up to age sixty four
used to be fifty four for able body adults without dependents.

(33:23):
There is a requirement. I don't know how effective it is,
but there is a requirement for data sharing on citizenship
and immigration status to try to prevent fraud. I don't
obviously that's not working when I can show you that
eleven percent of illegal aliens. Or I shouldn't say eleven percent,
but eleven percent of participants in the program are illegal aliens. Well,

(33:48):
i'd say the fraud enforcements not doing very good then,
or are we just willing to accept ten percent fraud
as just part of doing business. I don't want kids
to argus, but this doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Hmm
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