10-4-25 The Weekend Hour 2: Venezuela Regime Change Going On?

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the Middle East for a moment. Hamas really didn't wait
too long. I think, you know, once you set a
deadline and they see what we did with the Iranians,
oh yeah, let's just send some bombers over and just
you know, blow the crap out of them. It didn't
take long for Amas to accede the Trump's twenty point
god as a peace plant, or I should say at

(01:41):
least they accept it with conditions. They still got some
time to get rid of their conditions, but they don't
really have a choice. And actually the same can be
said for the Prime Minister of Israel be beet in Yahoo,
who was forced to accept the deal, but he didn't
really want in the first place. But give credit where

(02:04):
credit is due. Trump boxed in both net Naho and Hamas. Now,
for Trump, depending agreement is going to be a big accomplishment,
probably won't win him a Nobel Peace Prize, but the
aim is nonetheless noble and it's worth pursuing. And, of course,
with his usual flair for the dramatic, Trump responded to

(02:27):
the Hamas offer to release the remaining hostages by declaring
that quote, I believe they are ready for a lasting piece.
He went on to say that the bombing of Goza
must stop immediately, and then added some details that are
still being worked out. But he at least breathed some
optimism about the outcome. But we have to understand the

(02:48):
politics that Netnahu faces in Israel. He presides over a fractious,
almost fractured right wing coalition and ya who, and I
understand why he has been intent on prolonging the war.
He wants to completely eviscerate a moss Now, I understand

(03:12):
that goal. I'm not quite sure that's possible. We wanted
to eviscerate al Qaeda. Now, setting aside for a moment,
any arguments that you want and can make about the
mistakes we made and trying to eviscerate al Qaeda? Can
you ever really do that? Can you ever really eviscerate communism, socialism, Marxism?

(03:38):
Can you ever really completely alleviate eviscerate terrorism? No? Because
humans are still humans. And cockroaches. Will you know, just
as cockroaches will survive a nuclear war, terrorists will survive
their obliteration. They'll pop up somewhere else. So ned Yah,

(04:03):
who is very crafty, may have preferred to continue pounding
her moss. But his very audacious moves created the very
context for Trump's peace plant. Why how what he newtered
has belonged Lebanon. He attacked the Iranians and in the

(04:24):
ouster of the Assad regime in Syria. By the way,
you notice that Hassad or Assad was the victim of
a potential poisonous assassination, which I found kind of interesting
because Assad sought his refuge in Russia, which is known
for assassinating their political enemies through poison. So Asad, you

(04:47):
may not be as in friendly territory as what you
think you are. But anyway, in the ouster of the
Assad regime in Syria, and you put all of that
together and you've got a far more propitious moment for
an actual Middle East peace deal. But the blunt fact
is that with a horrific attack in October seven, almost
two years ago to the day coming up this what Tuesday,

(05:11):
Hamas ended up isolating itself. I firmly believe that Hamas
believed that it could topple Israel, that it could eliminate
Jews from the phase of the Earth, that it could
wipe Israel off the map. But the reverse has occurred.
Hamas has now been forced to accept the Gaza agreement.

(05:32):
Now there's still devils into details, right, They've been forced
to at least acknowledge right now, a conditional acceptance because
the air world has largely united against Hamas, and you
got to give Trump credit for that. In particular, Egypt
and Cutter a push for a resolution of the conflict,

(05:55):
and that resolution would preclude Israel from going on from
Gaza to annex the West Bank, something that Trump made
very clear in an Oval office. You know how he
tends to just sit there at the resolute desk and
there'll be a gaggle reporters come through because he just
finished signing an executive order or something. And then, unlike

(06:18):
Joe Biden, who would have to shuffle or fall off
the stage and leave the room, Trump just sits there.
Got any questions, anybody got anything? Well, of course they do.
Their White House reporters. They want to ask you everything
they possibly can, and he sits there and he takes
the questions. But in that questioning it came up of
whether or not he would allow net and Yahoo to

(06:38):
occupy or annex the West Bank, and he said no,
I'm just not I'm not going to allow it to occur. Well,
I understand why, because the pressure is now on for
Israel Hamas to reach some sort of an agreement. Now,
Hamas said that it supports the release of all Israeli prisoners,

(06:59):
both living and dead. And that's according to the exchange formula.
It was contained in Trump's proposal, provided, they said, And
I found this interesting, provided the field conditions for the
exchange are met. What does that mean? Well, in this context,
the movement affirms its readiness to immediately enter into negotiations

(07:19):
through the mediators to discuss the details of what that means.
The key questions are how far Israel will withdraw out
of or away from the Gaza strip, and what role,
if any, Hamas would play in a future government. Now, personally,
I don't think Hamas should play any role in a
future government none whatsoever. So that brings up the issue

(07:43):
of who gets to run Gaza in the interim. Now,
Trump has tapped Tony Blair, the former British Prime Minister
who really has his own injudicious record in the region,
to serve as the head of this Board of Peace
that Trump has announced. Now, not surprisingly, Moss is buloking
at the prospect of any sort of interim government governing body.

(08:04):
Of course they are, because that means they're losing control,
but it's more than likely to have to surrender at
this point. Mike Blair worked to transform the Gaza Strip
into Trump's new riviera. Rumors of a manufacturing zone named
after he long Musk that's percolating in Washington. In this

(08:24):
past February, Trump released an AI generated video of him
and Musk a voting on the beach called Trump Gaza. Well,
perhaps the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change will prove
more influential than anybody probably previously contemplated. But at least
the good news is there's movement. At least there is movement,

(08:47):
and it may for it may. It may foretell that
a Moss really has recognized that Trump means what he says,
and that's probably because of the elimination of Hesbelah and
the bombing of the Iranians. You see actions have consequences.
I'll be right back. It's a weekend with Michael Brown.

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from Stillwater, Minnesota, not Oklahoma. Welcome to the exicount. We'll
have some fun. Let's go from Israel to Venezuela. Trump

(10:00):
has the entire world in a good turmoil. I don't
think it's a bad turmoil. It's a good turmoil. Oh
it's fraught with danger, don't get me wrong. It's absolutely
fraught with danger. But I like the fact that you know,
once again, we Americans have I think Americans smoke too
much marijuana because we got really severe short term memory loss.

(10:26):
It's only been see November December, January Februy, March, April, May, June, July, August, September.
It's been ten months coming on, well, I guess maybe
ten months today since the election. Do you remember do
you remember prior to November four of twenty twenty four,
what the world was like. Do you remember how Biden
would wander off at some D Day event and the

(10:49):
Prime minister they lead, you know, Maloney'd have to go
grab Grandpa and bringing back to watch the troops, or
you'd fall off the stage or trip over the sand bags,
or you know, have to have to have the note
cards to read from. Would never take questions, wouldn't seem
for days and and now. Oh and we were told that, well,

(11:13):
you know, Biden has brought respect back to the United States.
The world respects US now. And I always laughed at that,
because having traveled the world with President Bush, I pretty
much understand what world leaders think and how they think
and how they perceive us. I've heard them talk about it,
and they did not respect Biden. They still respected the

(11:35):
United States. I sincerely believe that. But they did not
respect Biden because world leaders respect power, they respect our
ability one to protect them and to kind of keep
the world, kind of safe for democracy, kind of safe

(11:57):
for other countries to go about their lives, and to
keep our enemies, the Chinese Communist Party, the Commis in Russia,
and the Commoniess in Venezuela, for example, at Bay and
they do respect that. They may not like Trump. There
may be things that Trump says or does that offends them,

(12:19):
but they know that we are still the most powerful
nation on the face of the earth. Our size, our population.
I know, we don't have a billion people like China does,
but we have three hundred and fifty million Americans give
or take, and we have three hundred and fifty million
give or take private arms, and we have an army

(12:43):
led by civilian leaders who would do everything to first
and foremost protect, preserve, and defend the constitution, and protect
you and me against the tyrannical government if ever necessary.
In other words, they would disobey an illegal or unconstitutional

(13:05):
order and would take our side over a tyrannical government
trying to impose tyranny upon us. We have vast natural resources,
we have a mostly mostly free market economy, and that
still makes us the dominant nation on this planet. Do
we have problems? Don't get me wrong. We have serious

(13:27):
problems and we have serious threats. This access between China
and India really concerns me. So while all of that
is true, Trump, nonetheless, despite his sometimes bragadcio, sometimes the

(13:49):
trolling that he does that is like hilarious yet really
not very presidential. Nonetheless, it's entertaining and everybody on their toes.
For example, when when you read a headline, did you
did you see the most recent cigarette speedboat get blown
up in the Caribbean. As I told some friends as

(14:14):
I was walking the dogs this morning, think about those
guys on that boat. So I assuming they left Caracas
or wherever they left in Venezuela. They've probably heard the
story that the previous boats we've had, what five or
six of them, now they've heard the story. Word gets around.
Hey remember Juan and Pedro that left last week. They

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never came back. Yeah, and they didn't and they didn't
turn and become the illegal aliens to the United States.
They disappeared in the middle of the Caribbean. That word
gets around. So when a new boat takes off, all
I can think is somebody's pointing a gun at the
four or five Narco terrasts that are on that cigarette

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or speedboat as they head off into the Caribbean looking
for some landing somewhere on the Gulf shores, only to
be kaboom blown out of the water. It's got to
be a little frightening to be a drug dealer with
Trump and office. So when the headline screen Narco Wars

(15:23):
and all these pundits on television and radio wag their
fingers about fentanyl, I think it's real easy. The easy
way to think about it is to reduce Trump's venezuela
policy to just drugs. That's the shorthand. But it's also incomplete,
and in fact, it may not only be incomplete, it

(15:45):
might actually be a red herring. Drugs do matter, Don't
get me wrong. Drugs matter. And the effort is to
some degree about exactly that. It's the perfect combination. Yes,
we have a fentanyl problem, we have a drug problem.
And while we've closed the borders, isn't it interesting that
we're not really talking about the cartails coming across the

(16:06):
border anymore. Now they're using these cigarette boats to come
try speeding across the Caribbean, still trying to get their
product into this country, and they're predominantly coming from Venezuela.
And immigration matters. So drugs matter, immigration matters. It all matters.
But guess what else matters? We forget because we're historically

(16:26):
ignorant in this country that Venezuela was at one time
one of the richest nations on Earth. It was the
powerhouse of South America. Why because of their oil and gas.
They're hydro carbons, and now Venezuelan hydrocarbons matter even more
in a world where OPEK has been deliberately constraining supply

(16:51):
to keep oil prices high. I know I keep hearing
about how gasoline prices are down. Well I'm telling you
my neck of the woods, they are not. In fact,
they've creeped up a little bit. We're certainly not back
to pre pandemic levels. I haven't paid two dollars a
gallon for premium gas in I don't know, four years
or so. But deploying the war on drugs as some

(17:12):
sort of justification, I think it's probably smart politics. Why
because it communicates a moral urgency that resonates with all
of us, because the drug crisis is real. But it
also offers a legal slash rhetorical peg overseas, because when
you designate the cartels as terrorist proxies, that authorizes actual

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kinetic warlike steps under our counter terrorism authorities. But policy
is simply not an argument, It's an incentive structure. Let
me explain about an incentive structure. Is next. So we
came with Michael Brown tonight. Michael Brown joins me here.

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FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown.

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The Weekend with Michael Brown. Welcome back to the Weekend
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the humans are the are tending to go. I gotta
go watch that sometime. Back to Caracas, back to Venezuela.
When you think about what Trump's doing in Caracas, it's
actually built around a set of incentives. Now that may
seem odd, considering that we're blowing drug boats out of

(18:47):
the water. But if you're driving those boats or those
are your drugs and that's being lost into the ocean,
then yeah, you might have an incentive to figure out, hmmm,
how can I possibly keep doing business or can I
find some other way? Or if you're a Nicholas Maduiro,
the president of Venezuela, you may be looking at what

(19:07):
we've done with Hamas, what we've done with the Iranians,
what we've done all over the world, and you may
be thinking to yourself, uh oh uh ooh. And it's
not just Crocus, it's all the other Latin American countries
that are also watching, including Argentina, because we're doing some

(19:30):
financial things with Argentina that I think are mostly good.
I think there's a couple of downside risks to it,
but we're doing some credit debt swaps with Argentina to
kind of stabilize the peso down there, which I think
is a good thing because Malay is really Javey. Malay
is just an amazing politician, and I want to see
him succeed. Back to Venezuela. The incentives that Trump is

(19:56):
doing are designed to minimize the chance of an expensive
occupation because Trump does not want to engage himself directly
in regime change. While still this is the way his
mind work fascinates me. And yes it's Trump, but it's

(20:18):
also Marco Rubio, it's his National security team and for
that matter, the CI and everybody else that works around him.
It's the Trump Cabinet in general. So they want to
get the attention of Caracas, get the attention of our
regional partners in the area, and it's designed to minimize

(20:41):
the chance of this country, the United States, ever actually
occupying Venezuela while still getting out of them tangible leverage
maybe for regime change, but not regime change where we
have boots on the ground, but also maybe for a
really good deal for us. Think about it this way,

(21:02):
it's coercion without conquest. You apply pressure across multiple economic vectors,
economic silos until the cost of the same continued behavior
exceeds the benefit. Pretty straightforward imposed costs that exceed the

(21:23):
benefit of what you're doing. So what let's think about
Trump himself. He hates regime change, well, at least in
the classic sense of let's go invade Afghanistan or Iraq
and try to you know, topple Sodom Hussein or top
of the Taliban in Afghanistan. He hates that the America

(21:45):
First Agenda is truly transactional by design. F you're open
into national nation building campaigns and more calibrated use of
force and diplomatic pressure, there is cover both legally and politically.
That's the structure of how I think this entire form

(22:08):
policy apparatus is thinking. So for all the neocons who
assume he secretly dreams of invading a country, I think
they're just engaged in projection, and they're trying to engage
in a projection onto an administration that in practice is
really stingy about long ground wars. You don't need evidence,

(22:34):
just look at recent history. But then think about this.
Immigration is leveraged. Policy signals link security operations, the deportation
and immigration enforcement. So in these recent move moves, the
naval deployments and the strikes on those drug trafficking vessels

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have been accompanied by rhetoric and sound bites out of
the White House and out of the foreign policy establishment,
and at times include explicit linkage to our deportation policies.
Military pressure then functions as bargaining power in a really
broader domestic political market, then recognize this, Venezuela's about oil.

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That's it. It's the only way that Nicholas Maduro in
that communist regime survives. That South American country has long
been known as it's an OPEC state, It's a hydrocarbon state,
it's an oil and gas country. And for good reason.
Do you know that during World War II, crude oil

(23:46):
from Venezuela was absolutely indispensable to the Allies. It fueled
our ships, our planes, entire campaigns across the Atlantic from Venezuela.
That's why it is indeed one of the wealthiest nations
in the world. You look at it today, we trade

(24:07):
virtually nothing with Caracas. That's one hundred and eighty degrees
from World War II. Yet Venezuela still holds the largest
proven reserves in the entire world. So if we could
bring all of those reserves back into the US market
and then modernize those reserves, the output of oil and

(24:28):
gas from Venezuela alone could rival all of the OPEC producers.
And what will that do? That alters the balance of supply,
That puts the supply of that crude oil under our
auspices under our control. Now, if you fixate on the
crude oil alone, that misses the resources that also matter

(24:50):
in twenty first century geopolitics. And that's all the critical
minerals that we always talk about, the minerals that feed
evse bies, telecommunications, our computers, everything. That's why Beijing has
such an interest in Venezuela. It's not sentimental. It's a
modern scramble for resources. So the Trump slash Washington slash

(25:17):
form policy establishment calculus has an industrial logic as well
as a geopolitical one. Deny our adversaries China, in particular,
secure access, protect supply chains, leave the neighboring state structurally
unable to become a reliant client of a rival power.

(25:38):
Don't let them become subservient to China now. Unlike Ukraine,
because I know people are thinking, well what about Ukraine, Michael,
Venezuela's resource resources wealth doesn't need to be inflated. It's obvious,
it's vast, it's in plain sight. Unlike Iran, despite Maduro's

(26:02):
theatrical boast of millions of militiamen, they really don't have
any military at all. Unlike Taiwan, we don't need to
engage in the complexity of semiconductors. Venezuela's importance is tangible.
It's rooted in immigration, drugs, oil and gas, and minerals,

(26:22):
and unlike the myth of a population united in anti americanism,
I think that Venezuelan's resentment of Washington's way overstated. You
know that Nicholas Maduro stole the last I mean literally
stole the last election. They voted in a presidential candidate
that was pro American, pro democracy, wanted to return to

(26:45):
free markets, would have been a fantastic ally of the
United States. But the hatred of Maduro runs deeper than
any ambivalents about this country. So when you say and
you look back about you look at Venezuela from from
that point of view, the narco terrorism angle is a

(27:08):
good tool. It's a really good tool declaring those networks
as terrorists. That reconfigures the legal playbook. It widens our authorities,
It allows us to use military assets. It legitimizes our
strikes that might be harder to justify. It would be
hard to justify just you know, blowing a boat out

(27:30):
of the water because oh it's a drug dealer. No,
these are narco terrorists that are trying to, through the
use of drugs, terrorize this country. And then you put
all that together. It performs a diplomatic service. It makes
the pressure that we're putting on Venezuela acceptable to all

(27:54):
of our allies, our partner partners, who would absolutely be
opposed to any sort of campaign that involved actual regime change,
like boots on the ground or bombing Caracas, or even
a covert operation to assassinate Maduro. Apply the pain and

(28:14):
never promise occupation. A full scale invasion. The prolonged occupation,
of course, is going to be catastrophic politically, logistically, and
it would play right into the hands of the communists
that control Venezuela today. So if you can replace Maduro
through direct warfare, how do you change his cost benefit calculation?

(28:36):
You may continued rule more expensive, more dangerous, less useful.
You target his revenue streams, You hinder his patronage, You
sap his ability to reward his subordinates and his partners
and allies in the region and across the globe in China.
You increase the political price of belligerence. Becomes very logical.

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The critics, though, are reading the intentions and they don't
see the incentives and they make incorrect assumptions. I think
what's going on with Venezuela right now is utterly brilliant,
short term and long term. I'll explain next. Welcome back

(29:25):
to the Weekend with Michael Brown. We're talking about what's
really behind these naval maneuvers, military maneuvers in the Caribbean
and the attacks on the narco terrorists as they try
to bring drugs into the United States. And it really
is about sure regime chain, but not in the tradition,
in the traditional way as we've watched in other countries

(29:46):
around the world. Trump's all opposed to that. And then
Trump also sees the advantage of returning Venezuela to the
position it was back during World War II and even
beyond World War Two. Back in the field in the sixties.
I mean, it was a thriving tourist place, and it
was a place that was an ally of us. But
you know, because of our neglect and our failure to

(30:09):
recognize the regime change going on internally in the country,
we let it go down. The crapper, So now he's
targeting the cartels inside Venezuela. According to Fox news.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
As the US ramps up its military presidence on the
doorstep of deadly narco cartels, sending in ten thirty five
fighter jets to Puerto Rico last week, adding to the
seven US warships and nuclear powered submarine in the Southern Caribbean.
Former acting DA administrator Derek wat Multi will join us now. Derek,
thank you very much for being here. What do you

(30:43):
see President Trumpet his administration doing next year.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Well, let's let's go back in time, Sandra, like people
forget that President mcdero exported the monster, the TDA monster
as we call them. They're all over the country cause
it havoc. That's number one. For the last twenty years,
the venezuel and corrupt regime has formed very strong alliances
with the major drug cartels in Columbia, the FARK, the

(31:11):
eln they're all terrorists. In February, the President declared them terrorists.
And I think that's what the American public have to understand.
We are treating them now as terrorists. They're going to
feel the pain, they're going to feel accountability. It's about time.
Bill Ilusion, thank you for all the unbelievable reporting the
last four years on the border well, now that's gone

(31:32):
because President Trump and this administration is going to hold
these criminals accountable. He's going to put Americans first. That's
exactly what was voted for in November. So we're very appreciative.
What we think is going to happen is more and
more you attacks on these vessels. I'm sure hoping there's
going to be some attacks on the drones. When I

(31:55):
was in Texas, for example, they were talking about nine
thousand drones had come into the un US airspace, and
some of these drones, as you see on TV, they
drop C four explosives. So we have to go after
the drones. I hope we go after the command and
control the poisonous labs in Mexico, in Venezuela, all over
the place. We have to stop the death in destruction

(32:17):
of our communities and our families.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Derek, I think when a lot of Americans think about
drug smuggling, they're picturing coming in through our land border, right,
cars coming through ports of entries, people backpacking it across
the border. That sort of a thing. What's going on
out there in the Caribbean. Why is Trump making the
Caribbean such a such an area to enforce on.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
So Bill, good question.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
You know.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
So the cartels they're trying to make you know, billions
of dollars since they can't make it on human trafficking,
now they're trying to make up for the money loss.
So they're now transport more than ever cocaine all over
the world, not just into America, but they're using the
record amounts of cocaine production in South America to their advantage.
So they're taking advantage of the addiction to cocaine.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Around the world.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
So President Trump and the Department of War, thank god,
they're involved. Now they are going to be looking at
these smugglers as they're trying to get drugs not only
into the US, but to move it around the world.
Because at the end of the day, Bill, it's about
making money for the cartels and these corrupt regime members
in Venezuela. They want to maximize the profits, they want

(33:25):
to limit their risk. But the game changer is the
hundreds of thousands, if not over a million American citizens
that they've destroyed, they've killed people. Just have to understand
one thing. There's never been a terrorist organization in the
history of this country that has killed all these Americans.
So thank you President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary of War,

(33:46):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, thank you so much for
what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
And they are doing exactly what should be done. Trump's
policy well the legal cus, domestic political salience, asymmetric pressure,
and an appreciation for resources into one blunt instrument. Now,
the risks are real. You could have an escalation through miscalculation.

(34:15):
You have the entanglement of law enforcement and low intensity
military force, and you've always had the moral hazard of
starting to normalize extra territorial strikes. But proceeding with prudence
and not cowardice has huge outweighing potential. Trust the plan,

(34:37):
as Trump fans like to say, and what you may
see is you suddenly have a regime change where all
we did was blow drug boats out of the water,
We took away their resources. We start to isolate China,
we start to isolate Maduro, and suddenly you start getting

(35:01):
regime change. Internally, that tells the entire world, as we've
already said, hey, we're back and we're not going to
put up with this anymore. I thought this is what
we voted for. I thought we voted for. We wanted
America to come back. We wanted to stand our ground.
We weren't going to be run over, walked over, stepped

(35:21):
on anymore. And yes, there is risk to that, but
the benefits are absolutely overwhelming because it maintains the American
world order. It keeps China and all of our enemies
at bay and unnoticed that. Look, we're not playing around
anymore at all. We're willing to ye wield American power,

(35:46):
maybe not necessarily, you know, bombing a country and occupying
a country, but using our military power, using our economic strength.
And think about all of those calculations going on all
the time. You've got all the Arab countries in the
OLPEC countries, all the oil producing nations who are stifling

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production to keep oil prices high. Trump's trying to bring
oil prices down. He's trying to expand the amount of
energy that we have available to not just us, but
to all the international markets. And now he's simply going
into Venezuela, where I should say, into the Caribbean and
saying this is our next move. I think it's really good.

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It says to the Chinese communist partying, to the Russians,
we may not come after you directly. But we know
what you're after, and we know the game you're playing,
and we can play that game better than you can.
So Weekend with Michael Brown. Text lines open, follow me
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