10-9-25 - 6am - Painting a Picture of Chaos and The Little Rock Nine

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, I'm just wondering, now that we have a inspire
put in place by Israel, Amas, et cetera, how do
you think the world will respond when as inevitably predictably
breaks terms of the deal.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Dragon, I were just commenting because the chairwan, let's see,
right now, Trump secures deal for ultimate peace in Gaza,
ultimate peace, ultimate peace. Well, then I guess that means
the rapture and the end. You know, Cristi is coming
back and we're we're living in the end times, ultimate
peace in Gaza. Don't hold your breath, Just do not

(00:46):
hold your breath, all right.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I don't know. I'm not going to be down that
squirrel right now.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
We'll find out Monday. That's that's Oh, you can't really
really say yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yesterday I started the program program out talking about immigrations
and customs enforcement and how ICE was doing what they
are permitted to do under Title ten, and that what
we were witnessing was this battle going on. That is

(01:24):
a battle between the separate branches of government. Separation. We
have a separation of powers. We have equal branches of government,
each with their own lane, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
That they need to.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Travel in things that they are told by the Constitution
to do, and that system has served us well, coming
up on two hundred and fifty years. It hasn't always
been pleasant, and it hasn't always been smooth, hasn't always
been easy, but nonetheless that basic framework has kept this

(02:00):
republic together. Can it continue to do so? I was
struck yesterday by oh there, in fact, they were playing
again on CNN A Keen Jeffries and some Republican are
arguing out in the hallway in one of the house buildings,

(02:21):
and there's a gaggle reporter standing around capturing this argument
going on, and they're kind of yelling at each other,
and you know, there's some f bombs flying, and it's
just and it's it's just stupid, totally stupid. Then I
see the same thing happening over on the Senate with
some senators. And then we heard on the news that

(02:44):
something at ABC News said at the top of the
hour something in the effect that we're in X number.
I don't even know what day it is. Is it
the sixth day? Is the seventh thing? We're going to
take a day of rest? I mean, is it the Sabbath?
What is in terms of the government shut down. I
don't know. I don't really care. Well, I don't really
care other than I'm taking my granddaughter from New York

(03:06):
on Saturday, and I want the flight to be on time,
which even when ATC is you know, working, even that
is an if a proposition, but I would like for
the flight to be on time because we get in
late Saturday as it is anyway, so you know, it's
not really affecting me. I have several text messages from
people that had a couple of emails from people about

(03:29):
the government shut down and how it's you know, not
affecting you. But then somebody send an email about their
daughter works for an agency and it is affecting their
workload and they can't do some of the things they're
supposed to do. And then we hear that certain number
of people are going to be furloughed, and it's just
it's it's total insanity, and it's a it's a dysfunctional

(03:51):
family that needs therapy. Nobody, I don't don't think anybody
Trump Trump concluded, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
I'm just saying that nobody is willing to sit down
and to say why don't we do X or why
don't we do why? I was struck yesterday by a

(04:15):
comment Mark Theeson did it. I didn't see him. I
only heard it because I was busy in the house
doing some stuff. But I heard Theson talk about and
it must have been on I don't know. One of
the afternoon Fox shows that while it is yes in
part about healthcare for illegal aliens, the government shutdown is

(04:40):
really about these subsidies that we have in place for
people that are on the Obamacare exchanges. Do you know
why we have those subsidies. We have those subsidies because
when Obamacare was passed, the idea was that people could
that could not find an in insurance policy through their

(05:02):
employer or they were not qualified for Medicare and Medicaid,
yet that they were having a difficult time finding reasonably
priced policies on the open market in the private market.
So they came up with these subsidies to try to
encourage people to in essence, reimburse the insurance companies. To

(05:26):
take your money out of the treasury and give it
to insurance companies, because not only were the insurance companies
unable to create a large enough risk pool to keep
their premiums at a normal whatever that means level because
of the requirement by the FADS. I mean, it's just

(05:48):
this circular insanity that we're going through that because of
the requirement that you expand coverage so that if you're
buying coverage on the exchange, you know, on the Obamacare exchange,
on the AFE, i'm Affordable Care Act. In fact, let's
quit using Obamacare and let's talk talking about the Affordable
Care Act, because it is anything but affordable. So they

(06:09):
decided to give Democrats did when Democrats had unified control
of the federal government. Democrats decided, looking backwards through the
Bush administration and through the first Trump administration, that oh,
this isn't really working, and we ought to provide subsidies.
And some subsidies are like four hundred percent your income

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can be four hundred percent of the poverty level for
a family of you know, one, two, three, or four whatever,
however you do that calculation. And some people who make
hundreds of thousands of dollars a year were able to
go on to the exchange and get lower insurance premiums
because of subsidies that were put in because of COVID.

(06:54):
Now I would argue they were put in also because
the exchange. When the Affordable Care Act was passed, it
was like, we need to have policies that include everything. Well,
guess what, Tamer and I don't need a health insurance
if we were looking for a policy, we wouldn't be
looking for a policy that covers pregnancy, because well, she's

(07:18):
had a hysterectomy, she's not going to be able to
bear children, So we don't need we don't need that,
We don't need child rearing. You know, we don't need
health care for kids. We need, you know, health care
for a couple of old farts. But no, every policy
had to be standardized and every policy had to cover

(07:39):
all of these things. So insurance companies could not design
a risk pool by offering a policy or policy options
that you can pick, you know, ABC or D, and
with A you get coverage for everything possibly imaginable.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
With B you don't have to have.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
You know, maybe you don't get coverage for maternity or pregnancy.
You don't get you know, maybe you're a male, so
well maybe they're mail maybe or not. I don't know
who knows anymore. But if you're a male, you don't
really need you know gynecological services. But I guess from
this day and age, maybe you do.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
So during COVID, the Biden administration, when they did the
American Rescue Plan and then they did the Inflation Reduction Act,
they put in temporary subsidies to try to encourage the
insurance companies to lower premiums or to at least give
people the option that these plans you couldn't afford before.

(08:37):
Here is a subsidy from all the other taxpayers. I'm
so freaking sick of subsidizing everybody else. Go stand on
your own of subsidizing everybody else so that they could
have an affordable health insurance program. Well, that, indeed is
socialized medicine. Why don't we just go full bore. Let's
just jump in with both feet and just call it

(08:58):
what it is. It socialized nationalized health care. But the
Democrats did it. And I can go down for four
hours on this on the next point I'm going to make.
But the Democrats made both of those subsidies because there
were two tranches.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
The first trunch.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Lasted for like a year or certain number of months,
and that was used from the American Rescue Plan and
then the Democrats did it again in the Inflation Reduction
Act because those in the American Rescue Plan had expired.
And then they did it again in the Inflation Reduction Act. Well,
why didn't they just make it permanent? I mean, if
you're going to do I'm not arguing for it. I'm

(09:35):
just saying, why would the Democrats just put a limit
on there? Well, if you want to be conspiratorial, they
put a limit on there because they wanted to have
a political battle. They wanted to have a fight in
case they ever lost unified control of the government. And
that's what they're getting. So if that's what they're getting,

(10:00):
that's what they planned for, that's what they wanted. This
shutdown is their shutdown. But I'm not going to go
down that path because I don't give a rats ask
who's shut down it is. I care not about the
shutdown itself. I care more about the politics behind it
and the games they're playing with our tax dollars, and

(10:23):
for things that we actually do need, like you know,
the US military and air traffic control, We really do
need those things to continue. And a lot of things
are continuing because they're essential versus the non essential. Now
we're swerving into the point where it's going to get
to the stage where people are going to start not
getting paid. Now, if you're an air traffic controller and

(10:47):
you're already required because we have two thousand, we're short
two thousand controllers. Think about that short two thousand controllers.
And if you're working in which also concerns me because
I'm getting rid fly into that airspace, if you're working
in the Newark LaGuardia JFK in that ATC area, those

(11:10):
controllers are so short that they're having to work six
days a week, so they're basically working on overtime. They're
getting overtime all the time. Now they want to fast
track people through the academy in Oklahoma City. But even
if you fast track can get some graduates out of

(11:30):
the academy in Oklahoma City and then get them into
a tower somewhere or into into an area control center somewhere,
it's still going to take them time before they're going
to be fully certified where they can be working on
their own. It's all I would describe it like an apprenticeship.
You graduate from the academy, you get assigned to a
tower somewhere, and then you have to work with somebody.

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So those people that are having to work six days
a week will have to continue to work six days
a week plus have somebody next to them that they're training,
you know, in real world, real life kind of stuff.
That's that goes on in an air traffic control tower
or in one of the area control centers. So it's
it's it's and in the military now I know that.

(12:15):
And again they will eventually get paid. We're not going
to not pay our military. We're not going to not
pay our air traffic controllers. And I've heard some people say, well,
wait a minute, be they didn't plan for this. They
don't have any savings, they don't have anything else. Wait,
do you realize how many people in this country left
paycheck to paycheck, So don't give me that crap. And

(12:40):
we and we got allow of these jobs. Numbers there
are you look everywhere you look. It's just the economy
is not that great and they're making things worse worse
for these people, people that lives depend upon You tack
about ice, which is what I started with. You think
about ice. They're out there getting shot at, getting spit on,

(13:02):
getting beat up, getting chased away, not getting any help
whatsoever from local authorities. What am I painting. I'm painting
a picture of chaos, an utter, chaotic, unable to self
govern republic that is so wound up in partisan politics

(13:25):
that chaos is a way of life. And all five
hundred and thirty five members of Congress and the President
and the courts are all responsible for this. Now do
you and not have any responsibility in it? Of course
we do because we're the ones that elected these dumbasses,

(13:47):
so we have some responsibility too. Then I'm just kind
of replaying everything that I went through my head yesterday.
Then I'm watching and we'll hear some of it today.
We hear different candidates around the country. We hear different
existing people like JB. Pritzker, the governor of Illinois, or

(14:11):
Brandon Johnson, like we heard yesterday, the mayor of Chicago.
We hear some of these idiots talking about how you know, uh, JB.
Pritzker's you know, looks into the camera and tells Trump
if if if you want us send truths to Chicago,
and you have to come through me, you know, come
through me, really, because Trump could do that, He could

(14:33):
do that if he wanted to the whole point that
I was making about Ice yesterday is that these judges
that are entering the temporary restraining orders, I believe we're
doing so without authority. They're doing it in contravention of
the plain meaning of the language, and they're doing in
contravention of what we know historically has happened in the past.

(14:55):
But because we're also historically ignorant, we don't. We never
think about it. Everything today is new and shiny.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
No it's not.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
There's nothing new under the sun. And then I heard
again yesterday from a friend of mine about do you
think we're headed to it? I mean a serious question,
do you think we're headed towards a civil war? And
my question back to him was why do you want one?
And it was like, I don't really want one, but
if we're gonna do it, let's just go ahead and

(15:22):
get it started. And I thought, no, you don't. You
really don't want to start a civil war in this country.
You really don't. And frankly, you should know better, because
if you study the civil war that we went through,
it was really really ugly, very ugly, and we still
fight it today. Monuments come down, monuments skill back up,

(15:47):
some some you know, it's the Robert E. Lee High
School somewhere. Well, we can't do it anymore because he
was you know, he he led the Confederacy. Who can't
do that, Well, we had, we got we got the
US Grand High School. Well, you can't do that because
he was leading the union, you know, troops and and
so you know he was he was a racist, and
he was a racist. They're all racist. And then we
get back to the same bull crap that we hear

(16:09):
out day in and day out. Now, racism, sexism, homophobia, everything.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's just where's the ration, rationality? Where is it?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Does it even exist anymore? And history? Do we understand
our history whatsoever? I want to walk through the dramatic
story of two US presidents, Dwight Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy,
both of whom used military power to enforce civil rights

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during the heated years of school desegregation. I want to
sketch out a couple of events.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
And ask.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
What is it and why is it that then we
had leaders that forcefully intervened to desegregate schools. Now when
we have a strong leader that forcefully intervenes to enforce
immigration law, a issue that I believe was probably primarily responsible,

(17:22):
not wholly, but primarily responsible for the second election of
Donald Trump. Why is it then that everybody, including the cabal,
and I think even some Republicans are a gas a
gas that he is sending troops in to these cities.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
And now.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
And then I started hearing yesterday, Well, it's not as
bad in Portland as you think it is. It's not
as bad in Chicago as you think it is. It's
not as bad in New York as you think it is,
or it's not it's you know, everybody's blowing things out
of proportion. Do you know what was going on in
either Little Rock or in Mississippi or Alabama? Mm hmm, yeah,

(18:08):
we were things as bad or not as bad? And
where were we getting our news then versus where we're
getting our news now?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
And who do you believe history lesson?

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Next?

Speaker 6 (18:20):
I guess your point really brings up that equity really
is not equal equity in your terms of your insurance policies,
you have to pay for something you don't need because
it's equitable that everybody paid the same amount, And in
reality that is so discriminatory. It's the opposite of what
they're trying to say it's crazy these leftists.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
And think about how equity disrupts the free marketplace. So
rather than an insurance company being able to offer okay, here,
here are all the things that we cover, and we're
going to group these into you know, just for administrative purposes.
We're gonna we're going to group you know, ten different
options for you to select from. You know, you're married

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with two kids, or you're married, or you're single, you're
a single mom with three kids, I mean, any number
of factors. And then we're going to you know, take that,
take what your risk is, and PLoP you over here
in this risk pool that have similar risks. And then
we're going to base the premium on what it costs

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us to make a profit, because they're entitled to make
a profit, cover all of our administrative overhead, and yet
cover your expenses based on the terms of the policy. Well,
that goes out the window. That's socialized medicine. And so, yes,

(19:47):
equity screws up everything. Equity is not what equity sounds wonderful,
Oh I want to be equitable. No, they're not using
equity in that sense. The other real quickly, before I
get to the history lesson is Somebody on the text
line asks a fairly specific question. If people are required

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to work even without pay, why is there a shortage
of air traffic controllers? Was that already an issue before
the shutdown? If so, the left is using it as
a talking point to bashed conservatives. We've had a shortage
of air traffic controllers for decades, and in addition to
the shortage of air traffic controllers, we have an outdated

(20:31):
computer system that causes us to keep planes further apart
than they need to be. It slows down the landing
slots because of the spacing required because of outdated equipment,
and then it makes places like Newark, which is already
a screwed up airport because of its design, that air

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traffic control for that tri state area New York, New Jersey, Connecticut,
all of that area has to They actually moved that
area controlled over I think, over to Philadelphia, trying to
consolidate and make it more efficient by because they had
a little better equipment over in Philadelphia. So when you're

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when you're landing at Newark, it's actually being controlled over
by over in Philadelphia, which geographically is not that far away,
but Nonetheless, it shows you how they're they're trying to
shuffle the you know, they're they're playing.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
The the cup game.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
By shuffling things around, trying to make it work while
you're flying around in the sky and pilots are depending
upon you know, of course visual flight rules aren't quite
as bad, but you know you're flying instrument. You kind
of want to know where everybody else is and what
level they're at, and where they're headed to, and where
they're turning and where they're not turning. It's it's absolutely insane.

(21:51):
Back to the history lesson, because everything that you're being
told today about chaos is nothing new. What's different? I think, well,
I'll get into it later, but as I tell you
these two stories, ask yourself what's different from then versus

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what's different today. Let's start in nineteen fifty seven. I
know some of you weren't even born. Nineteen fifty seven
Little Rock Arkansas nine African American students, they were referred
to as the Little Rock nine. We're trying to integrate
Central High School because the Supreme Court had passed down

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its decision in I think nineteen fifty four Brown versus
Board of Education that was the case that overturned the
original I think plus e v. Ferguson that upheld segregation
and said that separate but equal was okay.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
You could have.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Separate schools for blacks, whites, Asians, however you wanted to
divide them up, as long as they were equal in
I guess just you know, equal in facilities, equal in standards,
equal in everything. And the court said, no, separate but
equal is unconstitutional because you really can't have separate but equal.

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The governor of Arkansas, Arkansas at the time, over Fabus Fabus,
I forget how he pronounce his name, was openly resistant.
He ordered the state's National Guard to block the entry
under the claim of maintaining order. Tensions mounted because as

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the crowds of all the segregationists would jeer and threaten
the students, and the local authorities could not or actually,
I would say, would not do anything to control the situation. Now,
Eisenhower was asked to intervene. The former commander of of

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our Allied forces during World War II, the guy that
ran the D Day invasion is now the president. General
Eisenhower has become president. Now he was reluctant to intervene
in these affairs. He saw, however, that there was a
big problem the dignity the supremacy. Remember our discussion yesterday

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about the supremacy clause. This is why I wanted to
come back to this today. He recognized that the supremacy
of federal law was at stake, so he tried to
negotiate with the governor of Arkansas. But the violence kept
getting worse and worse and worse. So Eisenhower signed an

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executive order that's und familiar, Executive Order ten seven point thirty.
It put the Arkansas National Guard under federal control using
Title ten. He said, Okay, the violence seems to be
getting worse. The National Guard isn't doing what they need

(25:20):
to do to quell the violence. Local cops aren't cooperating.
So I'm going to federalize those National Guard troops. Now,
remember the governor of Arkansas had already sent the National
Guard troops in. Now, what do you think he was
really doing? Because famous was a segregationist, He really didn't
want to integrate the schools. So what do you think

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the National Guard was doing? Standing around twiddling their thumbs.
What were the local cops doing? They were turning a
blind eye to the violence. So Eisenhower had enough, and
Eisenhower nationalized the National Guard, federalized the National Guard, took
it under federal control, and then he did something that

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Trump's talked about, and everybody's heads blow up. Eisenhowertz said,
I'm also going to send in the one hundred and
first Airborne Division. He sent in numbers vary. Let's just
pick a round number, one thousand paratroopers in Little Rock, Arkansas.

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I just want you to think about that for a moment.
The commanding general of d Day of our Allied forces,
who had been elected very popularly as president of the
United States of America, nationalized the Guard and sent in
one thousand paratroopers from one hundred and first Airborne Division.

(26:55):
And everybody thinks that Trump is, oh my gosh, we're
looking at tyranny. We're looking at it dictator. We're looking at,
you know, a Nazi in control. If Eisenhower were alive today,
I dare you to call him a Nazi. I dare
you to call him a fascist. I dare you to
call him a tyrannical dictator. He'd take his little pinky

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and knock your ass to the ground. So what happened, Well,
the troops secured the Little Rock nine and they escorted
them through hostile crowds.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
And then that wasn't all.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
They then stood there ground at Central High School to
ensure the safety of the students in that high school.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Four weeks.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Paratroopers from the hundred and first Airborne Division and the
Arkansas National Guard, under the control of the one hundred
and first Airborne and the indirect control of the Commander
in Chief, patrolled the schools, halls and the grounds. They
went into the schools. Oh, we got chaos today. Why

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we're trying to round up some illegal aliens and put
them on a bus, put them on an airplane and
Guatemala and everybody's heads are blowing up. Trump's a dictator.
We're coming very close to fascism. Settle down, settle down.

(28:24):
I'm so sick and tired of the cabal telling us
that it's fascism, it's Marxism, it's Nazism, it's tyranny, there's
a dictatorship. You don't know your freaking history. And oh,
there were objections. The segregationists were really upset. Well, we

(28:45):
don't want those black kids in our white school. No,
we don't want that An eye an hour. By the way,
have you ever seen a picture of eyes and their he's.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
A white guy.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, Eisenow said, uh, back off.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Good mister Brown and company. I really appreciate you making
this point this morning, giving us our history lesson of
the day. I lived it, but I didn't remember all
of it. But I don't remember my name someday, So

(29:19):
thanks again. Good day.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
G Maybe we should just came Maybe we should just
come in and read names so people think we're talking
about them.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
They'll go, oh, that's me. Would help some of them,
that's for sure. Apparently you'd help him. It wouldn't be
a very long show, though, because it's only twelve names.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well well true, but we could we could lie. We
could lie.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
We could be like you know, any number of politicians
and just lie and just make crap up. I want
to do this. The history lesson is going to continue
after the top of the hour. I want to tell
you where.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I'm going and why I'm doing what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
The history lesson will continue at the top of the hour,
So don't go away, come back and we'll finish that.
Because there's more, If there's a lot more than just
that little tease, about the one hundred and first airborne
being in Little Rock, Arkansas. Oh, You'll love the rest
of the stuff. But I want to read you this
text message because I mentioned air traffic controllers, because I've

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got a.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Real thing about ATC. When when I'm flying, I.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Really like to know that air traffic controller is working,
and they do. They're They're dedicated, they work under incredible
pressure with really you know, I guess I relate to
them because I think their equipment that they have to
use is kind.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Of like my equipment that I have to use.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think ATC is working on the same Windows ninety
five you know programs that we are. So I get
this from a controller. You're a number forty one twenty nine, Michael,
having spent twenty four years working as an ATC specialist
and supervisor training to full certification for an en route
controller in any of the twenty contnamous centers. Those are

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the areas centers I refer to averages twenty four months
at least following graduation from the Academy in Oklahoma City.
During this supervised OJT, the training time, the trainee gradually
becomes certified for independent work on sectors of airspace pay
for the beginners is in excess of fifty grand within months.

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In the centers, the pay rises to an average of
one hundred and forty five annually and many with mandatory
overtime ins and excess of two hundred thousand dollars over
in total compensation. These individuals also receive a Cadillac Plan
of health insurance of four to oh one K. The TSP,

(31:43):
the Thrust Saving Plan that's the federal government's retirement program,
with the government you and me as taxpayers kicking in
up to a five percent matching contribution and a guaranteed
thirty seven percent lifetime pension after twenty years of employment.
I don't other than the fact there's a lot of pressure.

(32:05):
It's a lot of work. You have outdated equipment. I
don't understand why we're two thousand or so controllers short.
But every time you get in a plane, I want
you to think about Goober number out, he says, having
spent twenty four years. So I'm assuming you may now
be retired, but I want you to think about people
like Guber number forty one, twenty.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Nine, because that's what makes all of this work.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Do you think that jets flying into that New York
airspace could do it on their own. I mean, LaGuardia, Kennedy, Newark, Teeterborough.
What am I leaving out? Plus all just the general
aviation traffic. My gut, I think that is the most
It may be wrong, but I think it's the most
crowded airspace in the entire world, and we don't have

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enough people to do the job. Yeah, we're screwed.