10-9-25 - 8am - Eisenhower to Kennedy

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, your discussion about Eisenhower's address to America regarding what
happened in Little Rock and why we needed to do
what he did is I'm absolutely important. Right people should
be hearing that all across America and they need to
hear it right now.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yes they do, which is why I'm doing what I'm
doing today. Because one I hear a law, I hear
a lot of talk about civil war, hear a lot
of talk about fascism and Nazism, I hear a lot
of talk about tyranny and dictatorship, and even in these
quarters I talked about that sum But I want to
provide context to what I'm talking about, and I want

(00:43):
to provide a perspective to what I'm talking about. And
I also want to give you the tools and the
perspective that you need. So when you hear all this
bull crap that goes on from the cabal, that you've
got a different you can at least say to your
friends who maybe you've got to dinner with her, it's
your family. You got to you know, your your kids
are in school, are being indoctrinated, Holy crap. It's just

(01:06):
you've got to push back against this stuff. And I
don't want to lose sight of because I'm going to
go into the Kennedy situation now, but I don't want
to lose sight of why I'm doing this, because we're
going to lose the country if we don't understand when

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the law and that we are a nation of laws,
not of men, if we don't understand that the Cloward
pivot strategy, Lensky's rules for radicals are exactly what we're
watching play out in real time, in real life on
our television boop tubes, or that we're hearing on the

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cable channels, that we're hearing on radio or wherever you
might be consuming your news. This is what you're hearing,
including even I probably on this station. I don't listen
to the ABC news, but I'm sure they're filling you
with the same crap that CNN, MSNBC are filling you with.
And what Trump is doing is not authoritarian, it's presidential.

(02:13):
What he's doing is not tyrannical, it's within the law.
In fact, what he's doing is he's trying to stop
and push back against the mob that is creating the chaos.
Let's not forget that's what's really going on is that
they are creating the chaos.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Trump announced yesterday and that meeting that they had where
Bondie in and everybody was speaking about how they're going to,
you know, search for the funding and go after Antifa.
Blah blah blah. Fine, do that. I'm glad you're doing it.
Do it within the confines of the law. If you
find that these groups are being funded and supported, and

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it is has been designated a domestic terrorist organization, and
you find people that indeed are either directly or indirectly
funding them and you can prosecute them, then go prosecute them.
We've let you know. I was checking my numbers. I
said it was sixty eight years ago. It's even worse

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than the fact it was sixty eight years ago. It
was sixty eight years ago. About one week ago. That
Eisenhower speech was delivered September twenty four. September twenty four,
So what's that. That's what a couple of weeks ago,

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sixty eight years ago. We've survived. We've survived, thankfully, because
we had someone like Eisenhower that was willing to go
do what needed to be done, which is probably the
most important thing that you need to know Howard did this,

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and there were troops in the school, fully armed on
the school grounds. Can you imagine that on the south
side of Chicago today? Can you imagine that at East
High School in Denver? Now it's not justified right now,
probably either one of those schools in particular, but it

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certainly is on the streets of the south side of Chicago.
It probably is on the streets of Denver, Colorado. If
we don't, if we don't get this situation under control,
do you know what the And again, if you've not
read Rules for Radicals, if you don't understand or have

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read through the Cloward pivots strategy, please go do so,
because that's what we're living through right now.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Let's go to Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
So Kennedy's use of federal troops in both Mississippi and Alabama.
That unfolded because there were two dramatic, high stakes confrontations
that were just like here, testing the powers of the presidency,
testing the meaning of federal authority, and quite frankly, testing

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the result of the civil rights movement. James Meredith, who
who I think is still alive. I think James Mereth
is still alive, and I think James Meredith is like
you and I right, a conservative. He's an Air Force veteran.

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He wanted to become the first African American to enroll
at the University of Mississippi Old Miss. It's referred to
Old Miss. The resistance was pretty bad. The governor was
Russ Ross Barnett. He was actually appealing to the segregationist sentiment,
so he blocked Meredith at every turn. He was giving speeches,

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he was using the courts, even physically at the university's
doors by blocking and locking the doors. But Meredith's determination
and a Supreme Court ruling in his favor that set
the stage for the crisis. So JFK and his brother Bobby,

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the Attorney General at the time, they were determined to
uphold federal law.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
But they were also worried.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
To sit at the same time of sparking additional violence,
so they started negotiations.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I mean, you know, I don't disagree with any of this.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I haven't read enough history, enough detailed history about the
interactions between JFK and his brother Bobby, But they had
to have understood that there was already violence and whether
they sent troops in or not would probably escalate the violence.

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So the violence is going to be there regardless, but
in an attempt to try to kind of tap down
the violence a little bit, they negotiated with the governor.
Federal marshalls escorted escorted James Meredith to the campus September thirtieth,

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nineteen sixty two.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
This is all happening about the same time.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
You get this September thirtieth, but in nineteen sixty two,
then night comes about. An angry mob swelled over two
thousand people, students, outsiders, and interest interestingly, they were provoked
partly by former General Edwin Walker. He attacked the marshals

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and the reporters and the violence spread out of control.
He had molotov cocktail being thrown vehicles. Does this sound familiar?
Come on, listen to me.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
The violence. So a former army general.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Attacks the US marshals and the reporters. That really gets
the violence going. You get molotov cocktails being thrown, vehicles
are being burned, and gunfires ringing out. Gee sounds like Chicago,
sounds like Portland, sounds like Denver. So two men, a
French journalist and a local bystander. They were killed more

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than one hundred and sixty US marshals were injured twenty
eight by gunfire. So now the campus is engulfed in chaos,
and the state cops, the state police, they've retreated. They retreated. So, Kennedy,
this is such an amazing parallel. The campus is in

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engulfed in chaos, south side of Chicago, Portland, wherever you
want to whatever comparison you want to draw, the state
police withdraws. They refused to do anything.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Sounds like Chicago Police Department, sounds like the Portland Police,
sounds like the Denver Police Department. So, Kennedy, are you ready?
He invoked the Insurrection Act. Trump's been thinking about evoking
this insurrection Act, and he ordered federal troops. An eventual
force of more than thirteen thousand went into Oxford, went

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into Old miss thirteen thousand. You had the five or
third Military Police Battalion, You had elements of the eighty
second and the hundred and first Airborne Division, and you
had the now federally activated Mississippi National Guard. The first soldiers,
just like we watch on television, arrived during the pre

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dawn al They pushed back the rioters, and they're restored
the best way I would describe it is a tense
piece maybe order. They restored a tense order. Are you
ready for this?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Though?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I want you to think about this. The five or
third Military Police Battalion, the eighty second and one hundred
and first Airborne Division, and the Mississippi National Guard set
up machine gun nests along the roads, and they camped
out in tents on the campus. It was a military

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hostile takeover of old miss and stupid fat ass.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
JB.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Pritzker, the governor of Illinois, says to Trump, you gotta
come through me. Okay, hold my beer, here we come.
What's he gonna do? Shoot at uniformed members of the
eighty second, hundred first Airborne or the Illinois or in
this case, the Texas National Guard.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Is that what you're gonna do?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
JB? I think you got too much fat on the brain,
let alone your gut machine gun nests along the roads
and camping out on the campus. So for weeks, James
Meredith finished the semester under constant federal guard, and he
continued to get threats and hostility, but the massive show

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of force crushed the resistance tactic, and it provided a
landmark federal guarantee of civil rights. Now, you would have thought,
remember this is September of nineteen sixty two, you would
have thought that some people would have learned their lesson.
But oh no, because now fast forward to June eleven,

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nineteen sixty three. So that's what September to June. So
you go through September through January, so sixth nine months,
just enough time to have a baby. On June eleven,
nineteen sixty three, Alabama Governor George Wallace physically blocked the
entrance to Foster Auditorium at the University of Alabama, Alabama.

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He was trying to prevent two black students, Vivian Malone
and James Hood, from enrolling.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Now that was a.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Scene that truthfully was staged for TV because a federal
judge had ordered the student's admission, and the Kennedy administration
knew what had happened nine months earlier in Mississippi. So
they were like, Okay, how can we avoid this, How
can we avoid a repeat of the bloodshed, the actual

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bloodshed at Old miss So they had a plan. That morning,
Malone and Hood pre registered at a Birmingham courthouse under
federal protection.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
George Wallace dubass.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
George Wallace takes his spot in the doorway. Deputy Attorney
General Nicholas Katzenbach, thanked by federal marshals courteously but firmly,
asked him to step aside. That's when Wallace launched into
this famous speech about state sovereignty, state rights and refused
to move. So Kennedy responded immediately he executed executive order

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as I told you yesterday eleven one eleven, he instantly
federalized the Alabama National Guard, and four hours later, General
Henry Graham, under president under direct presidential command, I mean,
telephoned to radio, approached Wallace and declared, quote, it is
my sad duty to ask you to step aside under

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the orders of the President of the United States of America.
And then standoff began. Wallace cave. He moved malone in hood,
entered registered and started class without violence. That's how you
stand up to the bullies and the republic survive. In fact,

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the Republic's better off for it now. To maintain order
of mid rumors that the KKK was starting gathering, the
federalized National Guard troops remained on that campus for days,
just like they had done with Eisenhower.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Well, okay, we're here. You know what, guys, this camp out.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Let's get some MRIs or somebody run into town and
get us some food. Let's do something now, Kennedy gave
a primetime address to the nation, just like Eisenhower did
that night, framing once again as a civil rights issue,
but also as a moral but most importantly, as a
constitutional imperative. In both of those crises, Kennedy issued orders

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based on constitutional authority after the negotiations failed. Now, I
would argue he didn't have to do the negotiations. Kennedy
was just trying to be a reasonable person. He was
trying to reasonably avoid violence. He tried to negotiate, but
at some point you say, okay, enough's enough, we're moving.
In both of these episodes marked the fed's direct physical

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intervention to enforce civil rights, and the rest is history.
Whenever you hear that, oh my gosh, we're headed toward
a dictatorship. Huh. You had a Republican president and you
had a Democrat president. So somebody from both parties Eisenhower Republican,

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Kennedy a Democrat. Within the span of well, it was
fifty seven to sixty two so a span of five
years do exactly the same thing, and we survived. So
when you hear all of this bull crap, all of

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this dumb assery about how well oh Trump's being a dictator?
Are you calling Dwight Eisenhower dictator? Are you calling John F.
Kennedy a dictator? Because they've done in my opinion, they've
actually done more than Donald Trump has done so far.

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Trump's threatened the troops, but I haven't seen either any
of the airborne battalions move in. I haven't seen any
army battalions move in yet. I've seen now this morning,
I've seen I think it's the Texas National Guard in Chicago.
But to say that Trump's worse than them, Trump hasn't

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even yet reached the level of an Eisenhower or a Kennedy.
The history lesson is this, We've been here before, and
if we don't take the steps that Trump is taking,
the chaos will get worse. Our cities will continue to detegrate,

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they'll continue to devolve into even more chaos. And trust me,
chaos spreads you ever seen, maybe you've been in disasters,
obviously I have been. The chaos can start like wildfires
you'll have spot fires that break out everywhere to have

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a little bit of violence over here, some chaos over here,
a little bit over here and over here, and pretty
soon it begins to grow and the metastasizes, and pretty
soon you have chaos everywhere. That's the road that we're on.
And the fact that Trump has stepped into the breach
and said, no, we're not going to do this is
a good thing, and history shows that it's a good thing.

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Don't let the chaos spread because whether it ends in
this of a war, oats or whatever, this country would
never be the same. We're finally stopping the march of
leftist progressive Marxism, and this is the reaction you should expect.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
See if I get this thing right this time?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yep?

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Got it turned on? Well, I have a friend who's
ninety years old and he's on that mission. And they
had to take their firing pins out of their rifles.
They didn't know where they were going. They thought they
were going to the Middle East, and hey, give me
your firing pins. They wound up not very far away

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in the little.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
All right, I was gonna ask where he's going to say,
little rock Yep, it it sounds like I just ran
out of time.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
I ran out of time. I'm glad you got through.
See it's.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's history, and it is old history. But there's still
somebody alive that was there there. That's amazing, that's amazing.
I wasn't going to do this, but I've decided to
do it anyway. I'm often accused of beating dead horses
to death over and over and over again, and I
may have on this subject, except I think it's just
so vital that you understand and have a historical perspective

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of what's going on today, because we're being told that
Trump's going to turn into this dictator and that he's
you know, he's going to cancel the midterm election, he's
going to cancel the twenty twenty eighth presidential election. And
that's the indoctrination that you're getting from the cabal. Oh,
I want to go back and just play a little bit.

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I don't want to go the whole thing. Interestingly, I had, oh,
I don't know, probably a month or so ago, had
listened to both Kennedy and Eisenhower. So I went back
to the JFK archives to pull up the address because
it's better audio. Can't can't use it today because the

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government shut down. Because the Kennedy Library is a part
of the National Archives. They're digitizing and upgrading some stuff,
and so no, I can't use that. But I did
find it on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
So just.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Give you a taste of what the presidents you heard. Eisenhower,
now here Kennedy.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
The orders of the court in the case of Meredith
versus Phaya are beginning to be carried out. Mister James
Meredith is now in residence on the campus of the
University of Mississippi. This has been accomplished thus far without
the use of National god or other troops. And it

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is to be hoped that the law enforcement offices of
the State of Mississippi and the federal marshals will continue
to be sufficient in the future.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
All students.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Of course, we know now in hindsight that did not
turn out to be true.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Because of the faculty and public officials in both Mississippi
and the nation will be able, it is hoped, to
return to their normal activities with full competence in the
integrity of American law.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I see with full confidence in the integrity of American law.
Do you feel that today? Because I don't. Now, I've
not lost all feeling of integrity in all of our laws,
but in many of them I do.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I don't have that feeling that our laws have any
integrity whatsoever. And then we have elected officials that are
diminishing that integrity every single day, challenging the president. Yeah,
you've got to come through me, says the big fat,
big fat ass governor.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
This is as it should be. Our nation is founded
on the principle that observance of the law is the
eternal safegud of liberty, and defiance of the law is
the surest road to tyranny.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Interesting, the surest road to tyranny is defiance of the law.
Who's defying the law today and who's upholding the law?
If all you do is consume your news from the cabal,
you'll have it inverted. You'll think that Trump is the
one that is defying the law. He's just acting like

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a dictator. And these states are well, they're just they're
what tell me, what are the states doing? What's the
State of Colorado doing. State of Colorado and the city
and County of Denver and all the other sanctuary places
all over the country are basically saying we will not
follow federal law even in an area that is an

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enumerated power and reserve strictly to the national government. Immigration
is one of the enumerated powers. And we have governors,
city councilmen, we've got commissioners, We've got people all over
the country denying the integrity of federal law. And you

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Trump's the problem.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Hm.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
The law which we obey includes the final rulings of
the courts as well as the enactment of our legislative bodies.
Even among law abiding men, few laws are universally loved,
but they are uniformally respected.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
And not resistant.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Americans are free, in short, to disagree with the law, but.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Not to disobey it.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Cornie government of laws and not of men. No man,
however prominent or powerful, and no mob, however unruly or boisterous,
is entitled to defy a court of law. If this
country should ever reach the point I were any man
or group of men, by force or threat of force,

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could long deny the commands of our court and our constitution,
then no law would stand free from doubt, no judge
would be sure of his writ, and no citizen would
be safe from his neighbors. In this case, in which
the United States Government was not until recently involved, mister

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Meredith brought a private suit in federal court against those
who were excluding him from the university. A series of
federal courts all the way to the Supreme Court repeatedly
ordered mister Meredith's admission to the university. When those orders
were defied and those who sought to implement them threatened

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with rest and violence, the United States Court of Appeals,
consisting of Chief Judge Tuttle of Georgia, head of Judge
Hutchison of Texas and Judge Reeves of Alabama, Judge Jones
of Florida, Judge Brown of Texas, Judge Wisdom of Louisiana,

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Judge Gerwin of Alabama, and Judge Belle of Georgia, may
clear the fact that the enforcement of its order had
become an obligation of the United States Government, even though
this government had not originally been a party to the case.
My responsibility as president was therefore inescapable. I accepted my

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obligation under the Constitution and the Statutes of the United
States was and is to implement the orders of the
Court with whatever means are necessary, and with his little
force and civil disorder as the circumstances permit. It was
for this reason that I federalized the Mississippi National Guard

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as the most appropriate instrument, should any be needed to
preserve law and order by United States marshals carried out
the orders of the Court and prepared to back them
up with whatever other civil or military enforcement might have
been required. I deeply regret the fact that any action

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by the executive branch was necessary in this case, but
all other avenues and alternatives, including persuasion and conciliation, had
been tried and exhausted. Had the police powers of Mississippi
had been used to support the orders of the Court
instead of deliberately and unlawfully blocking them, had the University

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of Messissippi I fulfilled its standard of excellence by quietly
admitting this applicant, in conformity with what so many other
Southern state universities have done for so many years, a
peaceable and sensible solution would have been possible without any
federal intervention. This nation is proud of the many instances

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in which governors, educators, and everyday citizens from the South
have shown the world the gains that can be made
by persuasion and goodwill in a.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Society ruled by law.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Specifically, I would like to take this occasion to express
the thanks of this nation to those Southerners who have
contributed to the progress of our democratic development in the
entrance of students, regardless of race, to such great institutions
as the state supported universities of Virginia, North Caro Carolina,

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in Georgia, Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Kentucky. I
recognize that the present period of transition and adjustment in
our nation Southland is a hard one for many people.
Neither Mississippi or any other Southern state preserves to be

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charged with all the accumulated wrongs of the last hundred
years of race relations. To the extent that there has
been failure, the responsibility for that failure must be shared
by us, all, by every state, by every citizen. Mississippi
and her university moreover, are noted for their courage, for

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their contribution of talent and thought to the affairs of
this nation. This is the state of Lucius Lamar and
many others who have placed the national good the head
of sectional interest. This is the state which had four
men of honor winners in the Korean War alone. In fact,
the god unit federalized on this morning early is part

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of the one hundred and fifty fifth Infantry, one of
the ten oldest regiments in the Union and one of
the most decorated for sacrifice and bravery in six wars.
In nineteen forty five, a Mississippi sergeant, Jake Lindsay was
honored by an unusual joint session of the Congress. I

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closed therefore with this appeal to the students of the university,
the people.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Who are most concerned.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
You have a great tradition to uphold, a tradition of
honor and courage, one on the field of battle and
on the grid ion as well as the university campus.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
And there you have it. There you have it. History.
Pay attention to your history. Ignore the indoctrination, Michael.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
This is because that uneducated don't know about Eisenower, don't
know about Kennedy. Our educational system has been indoctrinating so
long that now there's no one younger than sixty who
knows the truth, knows the real life and the real

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activities and what happened.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
History is so important, it.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Is important, and that's why I spend an inordinate amount
of time because I think it gives you perspective about
what you're being fed again through your eyeballs, in your
ears by the cabal, because they're not telling you the
full story. They clearly are without any question in my mind,

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they clearly are tools of the Democrat Party. The exception
is probably Fox News, which someone can argue as a
tool of the republic Republican Party or OM or Newsmax.
But without that perspective, this is how Cloward Piven and
rules for radicals. This is how they succeed because of

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it's You can say it's conspiratorial, I don't care. But
when you step back and you look at the arc
of history from what everything we've been through from the
very beginning from seventeen seventy six onward, but particularly from

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the Civil War and then the Civil Rights movement, what
we fail to understand is that progressive Democrat policies have
been designed to really upend and rip apart the US Constitution,
and then their policies by unfettered immigration, for example, is

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designed to destroy the concept of what it is to
be an American. If I ask you, I've done this
exercise myself several times, and I struggle with it. What
does it mean to be an American? Well, it means
that I believe in free speech, and I believe in
you being able to say hateful, bigoted, ugly, nasty things,

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but obviously some of the consequences for that. If your
employer or somebody else doesn't like it, you can still
say what you want to say.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
But most people don't think that anymore. That's why we
have something called hate speech.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
And you see what happens in the United Kingdom when
you use hate speech to make certain that everybody stays
in a certain little categorist. There's a certain box of
what you can believe or what you can say. You
can believe anything you want to believe, but if you
ever expose what's really in your mind, they'll jail you.
I mean, if you can get arrested in the United Kingdom,

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the home of the Magna Carta, for posting a mean,
we're not far away from the very same thing happening
here because of hate speech laws. When we're told that
Trump is a dictator, what you really ought to think
to yourself is maybe just the exact opposite of that
is true, And so I bring you these historical this

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historical context to help you understand that what's going on
right now, the chaos is chaos by design, and that
design is to what I'll say it again, for the
Brazilian time, to fundamentally transform America