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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night, Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA
director talk.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job.

Speaker 4 (00:07):
The Weekend with Michael Brown broadcasting live from Denver, Colorado.
But do you really care where I'm broadcasting from anyway,
I'm broadcasting live from Denver, Colorado. To date, it's the
Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me.
You know the rules of engagement the most, The one
you need to remember the most is the text line.
The number is three three one zero three three three
one zero three. Keyword is Micha or Michael TMA tell

(00:29):
me anything or Ama, ask me anything, and then go
over and follow me on X at Michael Brown USA.
We'll get the other rules in a minute. So I
want to proclaim, and if you disagree with me, you
can tell me why. But I really don't care, because
here I'm right and you're wrong. If you don't think
as I do that this is the worst weekend of
all weekends in the history of mankind. This has to

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be the worst weekend of all weekends Halloween, which quite frankly,
I just don't you know, I don't get it. I
don't care. Maybe I'm just a fuddy duddy. I I
just don't care. Maybe you went to a party last
night and you dressed up, and you know, you're you're
thirty five, forty five, fifty five years old, and you

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dressed up like, I don't know, a zombie or a
pumpkin or who knows, maybe a member of the KKK.
I don't know what you did. I don't care what
you did, but I just I know, I just don't
do that. It takes a lot to put me in
a monkey suit to go to you know, formal attire
to go to some you know, hoity toity dinner, let
alone put on a monkey suit and go to you know,

(01:37):
a party or something. So that's just not gonna happen.
So that's number one. Oh, by the way, I tell
you a quick story before my wife starts listening. So
last night, friends want to go to dinner Halloween. Halloween night, right,
So they want to go to dinner. If they want
to go to dinner at four o'clock. Now I'm like, oh,
I don't care. If that's what they want to do, well,

(01:58):
we'll meet someplace at four o'clock. So we go to
go to this no Italian place and we have dinner
at four o'clock in the afternoon. And about halfway through
through dinner, because normally with this couple, we'll go to dinner,
you know, between five and five thirty normally. I know
that's still early for some of you, but when you
get to be my age, you want to have dinner early.

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And I finally said, why do we do dinner at
four o'clock? And without any hesitation, in a nanosecond, she
speaks up and says.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Because it's Halloween.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
And I kind of looked at him, like, so, well,
we got to get home for the trick or treaters,
We got to put our costumes on, so when we
can greet the trick or treaters. And you know, well,
I sound like a I really do sell like the curmudgeon.
I really am Clint Eastwood, get off my lawn. But
I'm like, okay, so this is why we're having dinner
at four o'clock, so you can run home, change into

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a costume and hand out, you know, candy to rug
rats that they don't care what you look like. All
they care about is what do you have in your hand?
Do you have a really good, you know, candy bar
for me? Or do you are you gonna give me out?
You know? And she worked for it. She's a dent
dental hygienis by profession. Are you gonna have me a
tube of toothpaste? Which is it? That's all they care

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about and it's onto the next house. They don't care
at all. They don't care one iota. They just want
the candy to move on. And so my wife, as
we were getting ready to leave, said, I think what
I'm gonna do this year is I'm just gonna put
this bowl of candy out on the front deck, the
front porch. And she got mad at me, which is

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not unusual, because I said, well, why would you do that?
Because some teenagers gonna come along and just dump the
whole bowl into his sack and move along, and then
nobody else is gonna get any Aren't you going to
be a good socialist and spread out the candy to
you know, different people? You're gonna let one person grab
it all? And she thought about it for a second,

(03:54):
kind of got mad at me because I think she
knew I was telling you the truth. And then she said,
well do that turn the porch light off. So now
four o'clock it's still light outside. But because we have
an automatic we have this automatic lighting system, she said,
turn it off, so won't come on. Okay, what I
thought that not having your light on was the sign

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that you weren't giving out candy. So we come home.
I we get back from dinner, turn off the porch light.
Of course, I checked the bowl, nobody's picked up anything,
and then I turned the light off. This morning, the
dogs get up their usual four to thirty five o'clock
in the morning to go for a walk. So I
open the garage door and I go around the corner

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and there's the bowl hasn't been touched, that hasn't been
touched at all. So turning the light off because she
didn't with the dog's barking and all that, and the
bowl was out there. I said to her this morning,
I'm not trying to start an argument, I really am not.
But when you put it in a dark like solid bowl,
one of those wooden bowls, and you dump it in there,

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and then you put it up on the porch and
then you turn the light off, kids who are down
on the sidewalk aren't going to walk up because the
light's off because they can't see the bulls, so they're.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Not they're not gonna pick up the candy.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
So now I've got a like bags and bags of
candy that she's She said to me this morning, Uh,
could you take to Can you take the studio on Monday?
I'm like, yes, they're all pigs. He'll be gone within
an hour, So I'll take it to the studio on Monday.
So it's Halloween weekend, but that's only half the reason

(05:29):
that it's the worst weekend of the year. It's also
the end of daylight saving time. It amazes me. You know,
we talk a lot about eighty twenty issues, or I
don't talk a lot about eighty twenty issues, but Donald Trump,
the President of the United States of America, talks a
lot about eighty twenty ninety ten issues and how the

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American people are behind this or that. Well, my own
internal poll says, this is a stupid idea. It was
born in an agrarian society. We don't really need this anymore.
You don't really save any time. You just shift the
clock a little bit. So if you want to shift
the clock, won't you just shift it whichever way you want?

Speaker 5 (06:09):
To shift it.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I don't care if you want to go back to
standard time or stay on Saving time. I don't care.
Just stop changing the clock. That's all I ask. It's
all I ask, very simple things. I don't ask for
a lot, but I do ask for that. So this
is the worst weekend of the year. Now, if you
think there's another weekend, this's the worst weekend of the year.
Three three one zero three keyword micro Michael, I'd like

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to know. I'd like to compare notes, because I think
I'm right and you're wrong. So let's get started. The
big news this week, at least I think it's big news,
is the release of even more documents related to that
criminal investigation that's called Arctic Frost. Have you not surely
you've heard of this. If you haven't, then you've got

(06:52):
to pay attention. It's an investigator, it's a criminal investigation.
I want to make sure I emphasize that enough. This
is a criminal investigation being conducted by the Deputy Attorney
General Lisa Monico under Joe Biden. So this is not
just some little like we're in. We're you know, investigating
you know, a drug dealer. We're not investigating the mafia.

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We're not investigating you know, somebody that's you know, traffic
in humans or whatever. No, we're investigating the president of
the United States, a former president at the time, the
leading candidate to be the next president. Because this was
opened in twenty twenty two, and it was a criminal investigation,
and I'm going to emphasize that because of some details

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in just a second. So we now have an internal
Department of Justice memo that Congress got a hold of.
The House Judiciary Committee, I'm sorry, Senate Judiciary Committee got
a hold of this memo and it details the absolute
ridiculous basis of the investigation.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Following the twenty twenty presidential and vice presidential election, in
an apparent effort to obstruct Congress's certification of the Electoral College,
fraudulent certificates of electors were submitted to the Archivist of
the United States purporting to represent the actual elector votes
from the states of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, in Wisconsin.

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According to this memo that was written by the former
FBI director Christopher Ray, it was that pretext, which is
a false pretext, but in it not only in addition
to being a false pretext. It ignores that Democrats have
for decades submitted alternate roles of electors when it comes

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to counting the electoral College vote. It's just a pro
forma thing that they just routinely do every year. But
when Republicans do it and when Donald Trump do it,
oh my god. Let's open an investigation. Let me tell
you why and how bad this investigation got. Don't forget
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mean next? Hey, so Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to

(09:26):
have you with me. Appreciate you tuning in. Text line
always open three three one zero three keyword Mike or Michael.
I did have one text message that said, you know,
I might I kind of half ass agree with you,
except it's not always on the weekend Goober nineteen seventy,
says Mike Worst Weekend April fifteen. Yeah, I might agree
with that, might agree with that. So we got two

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bad weekends if the fifteenth falls fall falls on a weekend.
Otherwise it's this weekend Halloween and daylight saving time. And
notice I say daylight saving time, because if I say
daylight saving time like everybody else does, then somebody will
correct me and say, oh no, no, no, it's daylight
saving time. Okay, fine, fine, settle down, change your clocks.

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So I just told you about this memo about the
Arctic Frost investigation. Arctic Frost, and it's a criminal investigation.
And the pretext that led to this huge manhunt that
involved FBI field offices across the entire country was the
fact that, oh, there were some people that submitted some

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ultnate electoral electors to the Electoral College. So the House
Judiciary Committee and then later the Senate Judiciary Committee, and
they all, let's just say they all did, published a
trove of official records and it documents the FBI interviews

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with the targets of this criminal investigation. FBI agent's confrontation
with a Trump campaign quarter coordinator, Harrison Floyd back in
twenty twenty three is particularly infuriating, as there are other
communications too. And then the Senate Judiciary Committee released thousands

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of pages related to nearly two hundred subpoenas. They were
issued by the US Attorney for the District of Columbia,
Matthew Graves. He's the one who presided over the first
part of the investigation that was then handed off to
Jack Smith the Special Council. I would remind you that
Jack Smith is the one that went after Trump down
in mar Largo on the Document's case. And he's also

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the same one that the guy that was brought back
from Brussels. He was doing some special project in Brussels.
He was brought back specifically to target and prosecute Donald
Trump in the Document's case and in the January sixth case.
I point that out because Jack Smith has a horrible reputation.

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I want to say that he has one hundred maybe
it's ninety five percent, but whether it's ninety five percent
or one hundred percent, it's bad. He has that kind
of a record when it comes to being overturned. In
other words, he'll get a conviction, and somewhere between let's
say ninety five and one hundred percent of the convictions

(12:28):
that he gets are ultimately overturned by an appellate court
or the US Supreme court. The guy cuts corners. He
he overzealously represents his clients. I I would like to
say that he lies, cheats, and steals, but I won't
say that. Let's just say that he cuts corners. Okay,

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So this is the guy that takes over this criminal investigation. Well,
this week Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa and the Republican
senators they were all targeted as part of this investigation,
held a press conference in which they expressed their outrage
over these developments. Now, I want to emphasize again this

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is a criminal investigation, and as part of the criminal investigation,
they start looking at United States senators.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
So today we're making public new records that I've attained
through legally protected whistle lower disclosures. One hundred and ninety
seven subpoenas were issued by Jack Smith and his team.
These subpoenas were issued to thirty four individuals.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Got that almost two hundred subpoenas, but not to two
hundred people, to thirty four people.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
And one hundred and sixty three businesses, including financial institutions.
And one of the points of contact on many of
these subpoenas was that person I previously named Special Agent
Walter Gerdino. The subpoena requested records and communications related to

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over four hundred and thirty individual and organizations, all of
them appear to be aimed at Republicans. A subpoena to
Event Strategies requested records relating to Turning Point USA and
the Republican Attorney General's Association. One subpoena to Apple sought

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records relating to Trump and the January sixth prison choir.
Earlier this year, I obtained emails between and among J. P. Cooney,
one or Jack Smith's prosecutors. That email exchange was March
twenty twenty three about a partisan news article on January sixth,

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and this is what Cooney said in the email. Can
we do some work to nail down Trump's role in this?
Perhaps with the same process on Ed Henry's LLC end quote.
Just the next month, April twenty twenty three, Jack Smith

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and his team subpoena Apple for records relating to the
very issue. A subpoena to an individuals sought records and
communications with quote any member, employee, or agent of the
legislative branch of government endo quote.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Another subpoena to an.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Individual sought records relating to communications with media companies such
as CBS, Fox News, Fox Business, Newsmax, Sinclair, and others.
Other subpoenas to a bank, individual and businesses sought records
relating to White House advisors Stephen Miller, Dan Scavino, Jared Kushner,

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and Lara Trump. Some subpoenas to individuals and businesses sought
statistical data and analysis relating to donors and fundraising efforts.
Artig Fross was the vehicle by which FBI agents and

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DOJ prosecutors could improperly investigate the entire Republican political apparatus.
Contrary to what Smith has said publicly, this was clearly
a expedition. If this had happened to Democrats, they'd be

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as rightly outraged as we are outraged. We're making these
records public in the interests of transparency and so that
the American people can draw their own conclusions.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Now, a separate series of releases that were posted Thursday
give us even more legal in court records, including a
non disclosure agreement approved by Judge Boseburg. That's the Obama
point in chief of the DC District Court prohibiting Verizon
from telling Republican senators and one member of Congress about

(17:42):
the subpoena for their own cell phone activity that judge
needs to be impeached. I'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Michael Brown joins me.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Here, the former FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
The Weekend with Michael Brown. Welcome back The Weekend with
Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me. Appreciate you tuning in.
We're talking about this Arctic Frost investigation that was undertaken
during the Biden administration that focus on trying to criminalize
activity pure political activity engaged in by Donald Trump his campaign.

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But said just set that aside for a moment, because
you know that horse has been beat to death a
thousand times. What I want to focus on here is
that Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, the dirt bag in
my opinion, also served as subpoena not just on Verizon
and Apple, but served a subpoena on AT and T

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seeking phone records for members of Congress, one of whom
just happened to be Texas Senator Ted Cruz. But to
their credit, now listen closely to their credit AT and
T pushed back and said, no, we don't think this
is legitimate. We are going to protect those records. And

(19:12):
so no, we're not going to do it. And so
what happened. Jack Smith knew that he was overreaching, so
he backed off too. A similar letter from Verizon explaining
why they did comply with both the subpoena and the
non disclosure order, because remember, Judge Bobert, Bobert, I'm thinking

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about somebody else. Judge Boseburg is the one that signed
a non disclosure order that said you cannot disclose to
the individual that you know. For example, let's say that
Jack Smith was coming after my mobile phone. He was
coming after my cell phone and the metadata and the

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calls and the records on my phone. This order that
was ordered by Judge Boseburg would not allow me to
know that there was a subpoena out there from my
carrier asking for my records. What are you trying to hide?
And why is Boseburg who serves Remember he's also a

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member of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the PFISA Court,
and he's the one that approved the faulty subpoenas, the
faulty wire taps based upon that stupid dossier, the Steele
dossier that lied and was based on all falsehoods about
Donald Trump to begin with, This is the exact same judge,

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which is why I say Congress needs to impeach this
particular judge. He is a rogue judge acting beyond the
parameters of the law. But the issue about the non
disclosure order for the AT and T subpoena was moot
because Smith had already backed off the request. But the

(21:05):
matter is not moot among Republican lawmakers who are again
demanding that Boseburg be impeached, as I believe that he should.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Judge Bosberg gave a speech about how he was going
to fort the Trump agenda before he got those cases.
He was the not the assignment judge at the DC
courts have a daily assignment judge. He wasn't the assignment judge.
He's on vacation. Somehow gets these cases at one in

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the morning. Was he tipped off? Did somebody tell him
these cases against President Trump and his agenda now we're coming.
I don't know, we should find that out. But Judge
Boseberg that what he did to President or what he
did to Senator Cruz and maybe other senators. Absolutely, and
I don't say this slightly. Absolutely is worthy of impeachment proceedings.

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There has to be accountability. The American people have heard
a lot about this, and you're going to hear more.
We should have Watergate style hearings on this for months.
If we're ever going to root this out, we have
to be serious about it, and consequences have to follow. Resignations, firings,
criminal prosecutions. You simply can't in this country use the

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justice system to throw people in jail because they have
a red jersey on or a blue jersey on.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Absolutely, Now, impeachment does not start in the Senate. The
House will have to do that.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Now.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
This entire story, I have to admit, completely bypassed me
the last few months. Three Democrat judges on the DC
Circuit Court of Appeals recently decided that Judge Boseburg violated
provisions of the Stored Communications Act stored as in you
go store something, the Stored Communications Act. That law regulates

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the government's access to private customer data held by any
electronic communications company like AT and T, Verizon or T
Mobile or any of these others offshoots and Under that law,
a judge has to find he is required to find
that one of five factor applies before he can grant

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a non disclosure order that would prevent AT and T,
Verizon or T Mobile or any other provider from informing
their customers about the request for their data. And a
non disclosure order can only be entered if noticed to
the customer would result in endangering the life or physical

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safety of an individual or risking flight from prosecution. Do
you really think that a member of the United States
Senate or a member of Congress is going to jump
on a plane and opscotch it down to I don't know,
Caracas with Maduro, or Havana with Castro, or to Beijing

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with Suijingping. I don't think so. So that doesn't apply either,
or that the destruction or tampering with the evidence. Do
you think that now some Democrats, I might say, yes,
tend to be fair. Maybe a Republican would, but I
can't think of any if there is a fear of
the destruction or tampering with evidence. In other words, this

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judge would have to find, in order to issue a
non disclosure order that he believes that a sitting United
States senator would destroy or tamper with the evidence. I
think that's a stretch. And then intimidation of potential witnesses.
In other words, Judge Boseburg would again have to find that. Oh,

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I think that Ted Cruz or any other US senator
or congressman would try to intimidate a witness. I just
find that freaking hilarious. Now I know a senator comes
to me and tries to intimidate me because I'm going
to testify about something, either in a court of law
or before Congress. You don't think I'm going to screen
this over the radio as loudly as I can. This

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judge is nuts. And then the last factor is this
or it might seriously jeopardize an investigation, or it might
delay a trial. Well, no trial dates been set. And
how does it jeopardize an investigation? Oh, it may let
you know that Jack Smith, in investigating Donald Trump, is

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now investigating me. I might jeopardize the case because I
might go public with that now if that's what he
relied on. But we don't know what he relied on.
He just found that a non disclosure order was appropriate.
The determinations that I'll call it an NDO as opposed
to a non disclosure agreement. This is a non disclosure order.

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Those are supposed to be decided on a case by
case basis. But in a criminal investigation that is under seal,
the US Attorney Graves sought a broad DYO that would
apply to any subpoena issued in that investigation targeting two
unknown individuals. So his own request, the US Attorney's own

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requests for an NDO clearly violated the terms of the law,
but Boseberg didn't. The judge didn't care about that, so
he entered a so called omnibus indo in twenty twenty four.
Now when X formerly Twitter, when they received the subpoena
and the non disclosure order, they immediately went to court

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and they appealed Boseburg's non disclosure order and then X
noted the quote potentially retaliatory nature close quote of the investigation,
which even raised more questions about the Department of Justice motivation.
And if you remember, the Daily Wire disclosed last year
that one of the individuals targeted in the investigation was

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Kyle Saraphin. That's the FBI whistleblower that was trying to
tell everybody what was really going on nobody was paying
any attention to him. But it's also a good reminder
that even dirtbags have rights. Even if you think these
senators are dirt bags, they have rights well. In a
unanimous opinion published last month, a three judge panel overturned

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the non disclosure order and so doing the court said this,
the court judge Boseburg did not comply with Section two
seven oh five B of the Historic Communications Act in
this case. In fact, that was a Biden appointee that
slapped him down. They continued, it permitted the government to

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apply the non disclosure order prospectively in the future to
unidentified as of yet an unidentified subpenis, and to apply
the non disclosure order to subpoenas directed at a wide
and unpredictable range of accounts. Now, just to give you
the full flavor of this, the whole issue is now
moot since the court has vacated the non disclosure order

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after ex filed their appellate brief, and Graves the US
Attorney is now out, so the investigation is moot. But
just because it is moot does not mean that the
wrongdoing doesn't need to be held accountable. And that's why
I think that these senators really need to persuade their
House colleagues to start impeachment investigations and then hold hearings

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on this judge and if they find probable cause that
he violated his oath of office, send articles of impeachment
on Judge Boseburg over to the US Senate. It's been
done before. We've had other federal judges impeached for wrongful
behavior down in Florida, but that was for making a bribe.

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But this, I think goes in his crossive to the
Republic and quite frankly, frankly, I think violates the separation
of powers. I'll be right back, so as I said,
I think this is the worst weekend of the year.
Welcome back to the weekend with Michael Brown. So the

(29:22):
other little tidbit I'd throw in is this our favorite
former FBI director who's under criminal investigation, in or criminal indictment,
I should say. In Virginia, James Comey is starting to
file all the motions in his case. He's trying to
disqualify the acting US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia,
somebody by the name of Lindsay Halligan. He's trying to

(29:44):
get the case against him dismissed. Thursday of this past week,
he filed emotion to dismiss based on quote, fundamental ambiguity
and literal truth. Which doesn't that seem kind of ironic
to youment ambiguity and literal truth. I don't think he
knows how to deal with either one of those. In

(30:06):
a nutshell, he argues that when Senator Cruz questioned him
in twenty twenty, he was unclear as to what the
question was and that's why he gave a wrong answer. Oh,
so you're admitting that you gave the incorrect answer which
led to your perjury charges, And now you're saying, what's

(30:26):
because you didn't understand the question? That's that's a hill
that well, I'm not even sure the guys that e
Agema could plant the flag on that one. But that's
what he does. But when you know, when you're a
Clinton person, that's what you do. You lie about the lie,
about the lie, about the lie. He said that Senator
Cruise's questions are fundamentally ambiguous because people of ordinary intellect

(30:49):
would not be expected to understand that he meant to
ask a broad question about mister Combe's interaction with anyone
at the FBI. Oh, so you're not of ordinary intellect.
I thought you were a superior intellect. Mister Comy. The
guy's really an idiot, and I'm median. You think that
maybe his lawyer might be an idiot too. It's just

(31:12):
hilarious to think about.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Cruse's presentation, admittedly was it was somewhat botched. He referred
to the Clinton administration rather than the more accurate Clinton investigation.
But it's really hard to swallow. It's hard to believe
that Comy didn't understand to what Cruz was referring because
later in his testimony, Komy clearly said that he did

(31:36):
not authorize anyone at the FBI to leak anything to
the media, and that's the basis of the two charges
against him. So the guy can't have it both ways.
He can't talk about, well, you an ordinary person wouldn't
understand that. Okay, Well, let's be truthful. You're not really
an ordinary person.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Number one. You're a lawyer. Now, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
I'm not saying that lawyers are better than anybody else,
but when you are testifying, you would think that a
lawyer would know how to one listen to the question,
to how to frame your answer, and three to make
sure that you tell the truth so that you don't
perjure yourself. And lawyers are also very good at If
you ask me a question and I'm under oath and

(32:21):
I don't understand the question, even a first year lawyer,
a baby lawyer would know, would you repeat the question
or explain the question because I don't understand it. I
think most of you would know to do that. But
James call me, oh, I didn't understand what he was asking. Well,
you should have said that at the time. This shows
just how crazy things have gotten, utterly crazy, how things

(32:44):
have gotten. So we need to we need to focus
on getting the Let me back up one side. I
want to make one more point about this past week
when it was disclosed the Department of Justice went after
US senators to get the metadata, and now they claim

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they claim they weren't looking for the actual content of
the phone calls. They were only looking for the metadata,
which is, you know, the number called, the time of
the call, the length of the call, the location of
the calls, that kind of information. They claim they weren't
looking for the content of the conversation.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I will just tell.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
You, as a matter of experience as the former Undersecretary
of Homeland Security, that there are little twerps as I
would describe them that probably listening right now for all
I know that can just get bored and decide that,

(33:52):
you know, I wonder what Michael Brown's you know, pol
he's talking to today. Well, let's just go push this
a little button here and let's listen to that phone call.
Or let's just go for the fundul let's see who
he's called lately. Let's go see who he's texting lately.
Of course, this is a way for me to get
rid of a lot of people bugging me on my phone.

(34:12):
But the NSSAY has that power. They don't have that authority.
They have to go through all sorts of hoops to
exercise that authority. But you can't tell me the bored
bureaucrat who's sitting there eating you know, some you know,
high carbohydrate lunch and is about to fall asleep as
board to death is like I just you know, I

(34:33):
saw Michael Brown on the news today.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
I wonder what he's doing. Let me just go look, Yes.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
When you start doing when one branch of government, the
executive branch litterally start spying on another branch of government.
Can you imagine the outrage if we found out that
the Department of Justice was trying to get the metadata
of phone calls from the Chief Justice of the United
States or any of the Associate Justices. I don't care

(35:02):
what side of the political spectrum they're on. I don't
care whether it's you know, Jackson Brown or or Judge
Justice Corsus or Justice Thomas.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Everybody should be outraged at that. We just don't do
that in this country. Or maybe I should say we
shouldn't be doing that in this country. We're still a
constitutional republic. We still have the constitution, even though it's
like somebody's put a match to the corner of it.
But at some point you and I have to take steps,

(35:35):
whether it's emailing, calling, writing, going to a town hall meeting,
whether it's virtual or in person or whatever, and demanding
of both Democrats and Republicans that these corosy things that
are being done for which nobody is being held accountable,
going all the way back to I don't care you
go back to Hillary Clinton. It's funny that we would

(35:55):
hold Richard Nixon accountable, But from then on it doesn't
seem like we hold any accountable. And I'm kind of
tired of that, because it's crossy to our system. It's
crossy to our culture. It's crossy to our politics. It's
crossy to the Constitution, it's grossy to the rule of law,
it is crossy to our belief in how we function
as a society. And in less and until. I don't

(36:19):
care whether you get purp walked. I don't care whether
they get impeached. I just want some accountability. So on
the worst weekend of the of the year, can I
just get trick or treating just a little bag of accountability.
I don't even need one of the big giant candy
bars of accountability. I'll take one of the little bite
sized bars of accountability, just to show me you're doing something.

(36:42):
I'll be back.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Don't go away.
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