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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I get it that we can't drive and curse
in the car.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's just bad. But can I still drive naked? Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yea the truckers love it?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, absolutely, Or better yet, just drive with a shirt
on but.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
No pants, that's what you do.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Before I move on, I'm going to talk about Matt Gates,
but before I do, I want to go back to
this stupid and I do mean stupid proposal from Jared
Polos about Colorado Transportation Vision twenty thirty five.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Because it is all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
About control and it's about getting you out of your vehicle.
And during the course of the last hour we covered
a lot of different subtopics about transportation in Colorado. I
think the only thing we didn't talk about was just
how bad the roads in the state suck. But some
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of the text messages are really pretty good. You but
number fifty four to thirty one, Michael, is this how
I am supposed to react when someone cuts me off?
Excuse me, sir, but you just cut me off and
you should apologize or I'm going to kick your dairy
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air and shove your creamium up your rectum.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You must say it with a British accent.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh yes, yes, which I'm not very good at. But yes,
a British accent would make it perfectly good. Uh. I
love this one. Eight ninety four nine, Mike on this
move overlaw. Riddle me this. Why can't the call it
a state patrol simply follow the vehicle out of the
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construction zone on I twenty five before pulling them over,
or wait until the next off ramp. Not only is
it incredibly unsafe for them, but for everyone else on
the highway slamming on their brakes. It's also just stupid.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't think it's the officers that are having to
deal with this because they put on their flashers and
the person just pulls over, rather than the person putting
on their flashers and then driving to the exit to
get over in a safe place.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right, most drivers see the flashing lights behind them and
they just immediately.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Pull They can pull right over, right, They just immediately
pull over.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
When you when you can legitimately turn on, you can
turn on your flashers, you can slow down to a
reasonable speed until you get to an off ramp, or
you get to a place where there's plenty.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Of room to pull over. And then the other thing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That drives me crazy about this is. And look, with
all and I mean sincerely all due respect to any
law enforcement officer or construction worker or anyone else who
has lost their life working on the highway, let me
just say that's part of the hazard of the job
that you have chosen to take.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Tamer and I. Tam and I grew up an oil
and gas country.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And so we started watching again, I don't know, we
started watching Landman, Billy Bob Thornton land Man. Well, if
you grew up in oil and gas country, you know
how dangerous the oil and gas industry is. Now, relatively speaking,
it's safe, but accidents happen, blowouts happen, people fall from,
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you know, Christmas trees. It just bad things happen. And
so a bad thing happened in either the first or
the first part of the second episode that we watched
last night, and I'm thinking to myself, that's part of
the hazard of the job that these people are doing.
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Every job has some sort of hazard. My hazard is
I have to work with that dufis back there behind
the glass, and sometimes it just it drives me nuts.
Every job has a hazard. And again, with all due
respect to those who have lost their lives, either in
law enforcement or on construction jobs. That's the nature of
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the business. What drives me crazy about the pullover law
is that everybody because there's been such a media blitz
about first if a cop or a construction worker gets killed,
then that's incessantly covered on the news, and then it's
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incessant about the pullover law, the pullover law, the pullover law,
and that's all you hear about. So now drivers are
scared to death to do anything. They don't know what
to do. Do I slow down? Can I pull over?
Do I pull over or slow down? Do I do
all of the above? And so now you've created an
additional hazard for other people simply because you've made everybody
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so fearful of doing anything that they're froze. Oh my gosh,
what do I do?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Do I turn my.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Flashers on and pull over? Or do I pull over
and turn my flashers on? Do I just come to
a complete stop? What do I do?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Oh my god? What do I do?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
The drivers themselves who are getting pulled over? Turn your
flashers off, slow down, go to the next exit. The
CoP's not going to get you for evading. And even
if they gave you a ticket for evading. You can
go to court and say, well, you know what, in fact,
the cop, unless the cop commits perjury, which you know,
I suppose they could do, you could say, well, you know,
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your honor, I turned on my flashers, and the nearest
exit was, you know, three quarters of a mile down
the road, and I turned on my flashers to indicate
to the officer. I knew he was behind me, and
I slowed down to you know, a reasonable speed whatever
the minimum might be, forty five on it, you know,
if it's forty five and a sixty five mile hour zone.
I slowed down to forty five. And I got to
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the exit, I pulled over, and I stopped, and I
put my hands on the steering wheel and roll the
windows down, or roll the windows down, put my hands
on the steering wheel.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
There was even a thing a few years ago about
these police impersonators that were pulling people over. Yeah, there
were public service announcements telling women, especially hey, if you
ever think that that is happening, that you're getting pulled
over by somebody who's not a police officer, call one
to the police station out.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You can call nine one one.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You can drive to the police station.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You can.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
There are all sorts of things that you can do,
but for some reason we're all it's it's the same trick.
Look as someone who used to represent state patrol. I
know exactly what kind of tricks they pull all the time.
They love I shouldn't say they love, but I know
what they do. They will drive. They will deliberately drive
five miles below the speed limit because they know everybody's
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scared to pass them.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well not me.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
If the speed limits fifty five and you're over there
driving forty five, I don't give a rat's ass, but
I'm gonna go around you. I'm not gonna break the
speed limit, but I'm gonna go around you. Because the
speed limit says sixty five miles an hour, you're driving
forty five. Well sucks to be you. I know what
you're doing, and you're creating a hazard. You're absolutely creating
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a hazard. Now, I don't know how well I got
off on this because of this, uh this, I was
gonna say stupid text message. But you know when I
say stupid, I don't know always mean stupid. As if
Jared pol is stupid. I mean, it's just stupid. Because
well you're pointing out the obvious. Not only is it
incredibly unsafe for them, but everyone else in the highway
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slamming on their brakes. That's exactly right. And it drives
me crazy. And you know what this is a result
of we never stop and think about the larger picture
about why we have Look, we live in a complex society.
We've got freeways that speed limits are set at sixty
five when the freeways are engineered to carry traffic at
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eighty five miles an hour. But oh no, no, we
can't do that because you know, people die in traffic accidents.
That's why we have stupid programs like you know, we
got zero carbon emissions, we also have zero net zero.
We have this operation zero no traffic deaths. Well, that's
never going to occur. That is an impossible goal. And
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when you set when you set impossible goals, you set
yourself up for failure. And that's what government does. And
government does it all because of what they want to
somehow they think that they can make your life safer.
You know, who's the smartest person to make your life safer?
You It's like, I'm always fascinated by these public service
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announcement that we have on television about Oh, let me say, oh,
I know one in particular that really bugs me. So
a young family, they've got a crying baby. Mom is
at her wits in, doesn't know what to do. Mom
is at her wits in because the baby won't stop crying,
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and the mom's just inches away from abusing the child,
you know, throwing the child onto the bed, or you know,
putting a pillow over the child's head, or do you know,
something horribly dressy, something awfully, something awfully inhumane. So they
do a public service announcement, and I'm thinking, do you
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think that the mother who is struggling with a crying baby,
who doesn't have the skills to deal with that kind
of situation, which I know is frustrating. You don't get
me wrong. I understand what it's like to have a
kid that's sick or crying there, won't shut up or
won't do whatever. I understand, and those frustrations. I never
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thought about hitting my child. I never thought about, you know,
doing anything wrong, because I was raised such that I
knew that that was just morally, ethically, legally everything wrong.
But guess what I didn't need I did indeed an
ETHN public service announcement to tell me that, Because what's
the likelihood of anyone seeing that PSA and going, oh gee,
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I can call an eight hundred number and don't give
me this crab on Michael. If it saves one life,
it's not going to save one life. It's all about them,
those bureaucrats, those do gooders, wanted to feel good about
themselves and to justify their program because I'm sure they've
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got some program out there, just like we got. You know,
we got we got programs out the wazoo. Dragon I
were talking about this this morning. Might as well just
go ahead and tell you the truth. Let me tell
you about Remember the two homeless ladies I've been trying
to trying to help. Well, guess what I've stopped. I've
absolutely stopped. We spend millions of dollars taxpayer and private organizations,
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and I'm not talking about NGOs. I'm talking about private
charitable organizations who raise their own funds to help the homeless.
I've come to this conclusion based on these two women.
Now let me say this about them before I tell
you the story. I do think that their homelessness is
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because of actions that they I don't want to disclose. No,
I mean, there's no attorney client privilege here. So what
am I worried about. They told me how they became homeless,
and it was because the stupid things they admit was
stupid that they did.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'll put it this way.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Let's say that they were both employed and they both
had a small inheritance. They inherited some money, and the
money they blew. They they thought, oh, let's just quit working,
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let's just live office. And when they told me the amount,
I wanted to say them, I truly wanted to say
to them, how stupid did you think you? I mean,
how stupid were you to think that you could live
for the rest of your life on that amount of money.
Most people can't live that on that amount of money
for a full year, and you thought you were gonna
live for the rest of your lives on that amount
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of money. But I didn't say that. I just I
just I wanted to hear the story. So I just
listened to the story.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So then.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
They they stopped me again and they wanted to see
if I would help them get an RTD pass, So
I did. Now, I first checked with my friend about
you know that works with homeless, I said, I went
online to buy an RTD pass and.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I was astonished. The minimum for an.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
RTD pass is eighty eight dollars a month. Now, I
don't know whether that's a lot or not, but it
seemed like a lot to me. Eighty eight dollars to
ride that piece of crap light light rail that doesn't
really get you to where you need to go. It
it never gets you to the last mile. It's just
like here at Bellevue Station. It might get you within
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a mile or two where you need to go, but
beyond that you've got to sit around and wait for
a bus or you got to hook it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So I started.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Digging around, Well, there is a way to get a discount.
Now get this, Now you know the differce between Medicare
and Medicaid, Right, Well, if you're on Medicare, you can
get a discounted pass. But if you're poor and you're
on Medicaid, you cannot get a discounted pass. Now in
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what world does that make any sense? So I go
to King Soopers and I spend the eighty eight dollars
to get a pass. And here's why they wanted to pass.
They wanted one, not for two of them. They just
wanted one because the one that has a skill that
is in demand needed to be able to get say
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from here near the station, say up to Westminster. And
so if she had a freelance job where she could
go and make some money, she wanted to be able
to get on the light rail and do that, and
she didn't have the funds to do it. So I
bought the pass to do it. I bought a one
month pass because I was just not cynical. I just
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wanted to be prudent, and so I thought, well, we'll
do this one time and see how it works out.
And then I started digging around trying to find out
how do I go about getting a discount pass for them. Well,
there's this convoluted process. So that led to that led
me to do the next step because I actually got
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a text from them that suit let me go back
to the pass. We know it's about to turn cold,
but rather than you helping us get some winter shoes,
would you help us with this pass? Because now listen
to their logic, because the logic makes perfectly good sense
to me. If you help us get this pass, that
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will announce that would enable us to enable me the
one in particular that has the skill that will enable
me to get some of these freelance jobs, where then
we can get our own winter boots. And I'm thinking,
I love these two women. They're trying to do everything
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the right way. So then the next so I get
the pass, I meet them on a Saturday. We have
a long conversation. I explained to them that I'm willing
to get this one pass, but you have to do
and I took her phone, I type in the URL address,
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and I said, you need to contact this organization because
they are able to confirm your income and everything else,
and they will be able to get you a discounted pass,
and you might have since I'm paying taxes for this,
you might as well get the discount pass as opposed
to me. Shelling out an additional I think the delta
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was like sixty five dollars or something. So she promised
me she would do that, and then something else.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Hapen Marten boys, Hey, you guys are super cute. You
don't how many times I've been pulled over, and I've
done exactly what you said by putting on my four
ways and pulling into a parking lot or somewhere where
the officer is out of traffic, only to have them
get out of their car and chastise me for not
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pulling over immediately. Yeah, you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Every great day, I'd like to hear from Alio.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Why because I have several text messages to say the
same thing. Now, I've done it on a couple of occasions. Now,
albeit I don't call ever doing it on an interstate highway,
but I do recall doing it at least a couple
of times on a rural highway in New Mexico where
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it's a two lane road. And so you know, if
you understand two lane rural highways, you know that there
are section line roads, and there are a lot of
easy places where you can pull over where the highway
intersects intersects with the section line road, and you can
pull over easily on those places and get well off
the road. And I've never had I've never had a
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New Mexico State trooper or a sheriff for anybody else
chastise me for doing that. So obviously our mileage may vary.
So back to the homelessness, the every step that I
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took with these two women was based on their representations
to me, which I took a face value, and I
had and I still do have reason to believe that
ninety percent of what they were telling me was the truth.
I always just a lawyer in me, always listens to
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stories that people tell me and always think there's a
little there's either a little more a little less to
the story. There's always something, you know, there is always
something that somebody doesn't want you to know. So there's
always something that's left out. So we go through the
whole thing about the RTD pass. Now, somebody says, well,
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wait a minute. I you know, I think that you know,
Medicare recipients ought to get free or discounted RTD passes. Well,
as long as taxpayers are paying for it, well you know,
we ought to just give it away to everybody. I'm
not being facetious here, I'm I'm just taking to its
logical conclusion. We're all paying for it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Whether we use it or not, so it's free.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So it's just free. I mean, it's free, right, everything's free.
So as long as we're paying for it, then why
shouldn't I be able to write it? Because my fair.
Whatever fare I'm paying is not covering the cost of
maintaining the stupid thing to begin with. So just you know,
GI give it away to everybody. So we go through
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the whole thing about getting a pass then, and I
forget how long ago was this dragon where they wanted
to use the hotel.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It was coming up on that first real cold spot October.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Ish it was, right, I think it was. It was
sometime mid to early October.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
See, you and I talked about it, like they want
to use a hotel now, right, because we should put
off right, it's going to get a whole lot colder.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yes, so they so they they approached me again and
they they now this shows again you don't earn hotel
award points for doing nothing. I mean, you either have
to have a credit card, you have to stay at
the hotel there. There has to be some transaction by
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which you earned points at a hotel chain. For example,
I got a bazillion points with with Marriott and Hyatt
and I and I've earned those points by staying there
or using a brand of cart. So they approached me
and say, look, we have this cold front coming in,
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and we found that we have a place that will
accept our dog, and we've made a reservation for I
think four nights or something. I forget Dragon, but it
was it was a significant four or five nights.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It's something like that was close to that, I think,
and Dragon.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I both commented to each other that we thought,
that's kind of a waste. Now we can't judge because
Dragon and I are going home to homes that have
central heat and air. True, so we can't judge. But
we were thinking, and we said out loud to each other,
it's going to be a hell of a lot colder
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later on than it is for this particular cold front
moving through. I'm surprised that they're using and they had
this for this chain of hotels is not a slack chain.
It's not the Motel six. They had enough points to
make a four night reservation at a hotel one of
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these hotels in.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
One of the urban in one of the suburban areas.
And so they're.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Asking me, but they have to have a deposit for
the dog. Would I be willing to put down a
credit card for the deposit for the dog? Now, I
didn't argue with them about I wouldn't waste my points,
but I'm not I can't judge, you know, whether you
know I wouldn't want to stay out if it's going
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to get down to twenty eight degrees. I don't want
to stay outside. But that's their decision. So I I said, yes,
I'll do that.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So I forget.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I was I had a doctor's appointment or I had
a blood draw that morning, I don't know what it was,
but they needed that by noon. So I the whatever
appointment I had was running a little bit late. So
I jump in the car and I drive like a
maniac over to where this hotel is and I walk
in and I said, I'm here. I want to make
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a deposit on a reservation that's not in my name.
This is the name, but I want to limit the
amount because I don't want the credit card being used
for anything. And the guy said, oh, I can do that.
Who's the reservation for And I gave the name and
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he slowly looks up at me and says that reservation's
been canceled. Now I'm thinking, oh, they came to their
senses and decided not to waste the points for those nights.
And I said, I said, did they cancel it? And
he goes no, and let's just say it's the let's
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just say it's the four Seasons. No, the four seasons.
Corporate canceled the reservation. Now you got my attention. And
now I want to know why. I said, corporate canceled
the reservation. Yes, sir, can you explain to me why? No,
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I'm not allowed to give out out that information. And
I said so, but can you give me any hint
about why corporate would cancel this reservation. Let's just say
that there were prior problems, and so now there is
a nationwide ban on them staying in our properties. Oh well,
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now you got my attention.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Was there vandalism? Was there unpaid bills?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Or are they rock stars that we just don't know
about them? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Are there are these two? Is this uh Diana Ross?
And they tore up the room or something?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
He goes.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
All I can tell you is there is a nationwide
band and they've been flagged, and when it showed up
in our system, it was immediately canceled. Now I'm pissed off,
and I'm pissed off because I've driven all the way
over rushing to help them, only to find out that
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based on something they've done, the reservation's been canceled. So
I make one last attempt because now I want to know.
I'm like, I've been doing all of these things. I
want to know what the f's going on in that
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last meeting.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, actually, I take it back. It went down this
rabbit hole. It was not a meeting. It ended up
in a text chain, and I and they offered to
explain to me why. I said, I'm obviously very curious why,
but it's not my decision. If you want to tell
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me why, you're welcome to tell me. Yes, I'm curious
as to why. But here's the thing. I'm not going
to do anything else for you unless you do this.
So now I reach out to my political contacts and
I make arrangements. I get two individuals involved, a case
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worker and a management someone at a management level, and
I give them. I give both the case worker and
the management person the ladies cell phone number, and I
give the ladies, the case worker and the management person
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their cell phone numbers because I've gotten permission to do so.
It's now been how long a thing has now been dragon?
Three or four weeks?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Almost a month?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, almost a month.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
And I have checked on two or three times, and
they have made zero effort to contact. Now my people
have contacted them and said, we want to confirm that
you have this number and that we're willing to meet
anywhere at any time. You tell us what's convenient for you,
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and we have shelters that are available, and we will
work something out and we will do whatever we can
to help you. And we know mister Brown, and we're
not going to put any sort of pressure on you.
We're just we're we're just we just want to help.
Radio silence nothing. So I'm done and it's taught me
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a lesson, and that lesson is I said this to
someone in the past, say week, I become a little
coldhearted about homelessness. I think we need to do everything
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we can to take care of homeless veterans. But even
with homeless veterans, there may be some individuals that, for
whatever reasons, PTSD, drug addictions, whatever, are choosing to be homeless,
even if they're veterans. Doesn't mean we shouldn't reach out
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and try to help. But as I told the person
in management, the lesson that I've learned is you cannot
emotionally at all get invested in people who are homeless.
You can't do it because I have gone to extraordinary measures,
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including expending political capital, to help people who have since
chosen to either disappear or don't want the help, or
don't want to get involved, or have walked away, so
I have walked away.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon, this is your favorite juguer.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
You know, Michael, I used to volunteer as this homeless
art gallery and we would give out brochures to homeless
people and called knights to go somewhere, you know, to
spend nights, churches, whatever, and they refuse to take those
because the church required them some sober or to say
a prayer.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, I want you. I want everybody understand that the
reason I told this story is because dry Dragan knows
all about it, because I've been telling him all along
about what's been going on, and I've debated about whether
or not to tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm not embarrassed by it at all, and I don't
know whether I've been scammed or not. Scammed doesn't make it. It
doesn't make any difference to me. But the lesson that
I've learned is this, And to your point, our favorite
jew boy is that. I can't believe I just said,
jew boy, your favorite jew boy.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
That.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
We can We're paying all of these taxes to these NGOs,
and then all of these non charitable organs or these
charitable organizations like churches and others are raising.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Their own funds.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
So there's just this humongous plethora of programs out there
to help these people. And I pay If you knew
what I paid in taxes every year, holy crap. If
I had that much to invest, I could be a millionaire.
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But of course I don't, and I know that most
of my tax dollars are wasted. But the lesson that
I've learned is and maybe I was scammed, Maybe I
was totally scammed by these two.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
But let's face it, you spent more money on stupider causes.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I spend money all sorts of stupid causes all the time.
I actually give to political campaigns. That's about the stupidest
cause you can ever give to. So yeah, but I
just wanted to bring you up to date because I
know many of you wanted to help and do things,
and there's a great lesson to learn here, and that
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lesson is, you know, as Dragon will tell you, my
antenna was always up because I always knew, because I
always knew as a lawyer, that there's always another side
of the story, there's always something else that you're not
being told. Well, obviously that's true. But the next time
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you see a homeless person and they've got a dog
with them, or they've got a little kid with them,
you can look and you can think to yourself, thank God,
I'm not in that position.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But be very very careful, very truthful,
So I get it that we can't drive and curse
in the car.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's just bad. But can I still drive naked? Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yea the truckers love it?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, absolutely, Or better yet, just drive with a shirt
on but.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
No pants, that's what you do.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Before I move on, I'm going to talk about Matt Gates,
but before I do, I want to go back to
this stupid and I do mean stupid proposal from Jared
Polos about Colorado Transportation Vision twenty thirty five.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Because it is all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
About control and it's about getting you out of your vehicle.
And during the course of the last hour we covered
a lot of different subtopics about transportation in Colorado. I
think the only thing we didn't talk about was just
how bad the roads in the state suck. But some
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of the text messages are really pretty good. You but
number fifty four to thirty one, Michael, is this how
I am supposed to react when someone cuts me off?
Excuse me, sir, but you just cut me off and
you should apologize or I'm going to kick your dairy
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air and shove your creamium up your rectum.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You must say it with a British accent.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh yes, yes, which I'm not very good at. But yes,
a British accent would make it perfectly good. Uh. I
love this one. Eight ninety four nine, Mike on this
move overlaw. Riddle me this. Why can't the call it
a state patrol simply follow the vehicle out of the
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construction zone on I twenty five before pulling them over,
or wait until the next off ramp. Not only is
it incredibly unsafe for them, but for everyone else on
the highway slamming on their brakes. It's also just stupid.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't think it's the officers that are having to
deal with this because they put on their flashers and
the person just pulls over, rather than the person putting
on their flashers and then driving to the exit to
get over in a safe place.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right, most drivers see the flashing lights behind them and
they just immediately.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Pull They can pull right over, right, They just immediately
pull over.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
When you when you can legitimately turn on, you can
turn on your flashers, you can slow down to a
reasonable speed until you get to an off ramp, or
you get to a place where there's plenty.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Of room to pull over. And then the other thing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That drives me crazy about this is. And look, with
all and I mean sincerely all due respect to any
law enforcement officer or construction worker or anyone else who
has lost their life working on the highway, let me
just say that's part of the hazard of the job
that you have chosen to take.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Tamer and I. Tam and I grew up an oil
and gas country.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And so we started watching again, I don't know, we
started watching Landman, Billy Bob Thornton land Man. Well, if
you grew up in oil and gas country, you know
how dangerous the oil and gas industry is. Now, relatively speaking,
it's safe, but accidents happen, blowouts happen, people fall from,
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you know, Christmas trees. It just bad things happen. And
so a bad thing happened in either the first or
the first part of the second episode that we watched
last night, and I'm thinking to myself, that's part of
the hazard of the job that these people are doing.
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Every job has some sort of hazard. My hazard is
I have to work with that dufis back there behind
the glass, and sometimes it just it drives me nuts.
Every job has a hazard. And again, with all due
respect to those who have lost their lives, either in
law enforcement or on construction jobs. That's the nature of
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the business. What drives me crazy about the pullover law
is that everybody because there's been such a media blitz
about first if a cop or a construction worker gets killed,
then that's incessantly covered on the news, and then it's
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incessant about the pullover law, the pullover law, the pullover law,
and that's all you hear about. So now drivers are
scared to death to do anything. They don't know what
to do. Do I slow down? Can I pull over?
Do I pull over or slow down? Do I do
all of the above? And so now you've created an
additional hazard for other people simply because you've made everybody
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so fearful of doing anything that they're froze. Oh my gosh,
what do I do?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Do I turn my.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Flashers on and pull over? Or do I pull over
and turn my flashers on? Do I just come to
a complete stop? What do I do?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Oh my god? What do I do?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
The drivers themselves who are getting pulled over? Turn your
flashers off, slow down, go to the next exit. The
CoP's not going to get you for evading. And even
if they gave you a ticket for evading. You can
go to court and say, well, you know what, in fact,
the cop, unless the cop commits perjury, which you know,
I suppose they could do, you could say, well, you know,
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your honor, I turned on my flashers, and the nearest
exit was, you know, three quarters of a mile down
the road, and I turned on my flashers to indicate
to the officer. I knew he was behind me, and
I slowed down to you know, a reasonable speed whatever
the minimum might be, forty five on it, you know,
if it's forty five and a sixty five mile hour zone.
I slowed down to forty five. And I got to
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the exit, I pulled over, and I stopped, and I
put my hands on the steering wheel and roll the
windows down, or roll the windows down, put my hands
on the steering wheel.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
There was even a thing a few years ago about
these police impersonators that were pulling people over. Yeah, there
were public service announcements telling women, especially hey, if you
ever think that that is happening, that you're getting pulled
over by somebody who's not a police officer, call one
to the police station out.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You can call nine one one.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You can drive to the police station.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You can.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
There are all sorts of things that you can do,
but for some reason we're all it's it's the same trick.
Look as someone who used to represent state patrol. I
know exactly what kind of tricks they pull all the time.
They love I shouldn't say they love, but I know
what they do. They will drive. They will deliberately drive
five miles below the speed limit because they know everybody's
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scared to pass them.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well not me.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
If the speed limits fifty five and you're over there
driving forty five, I don't give a rat's ass, but
I'm gonna go around you. I'm not gonna break the
speed limit, but I'm gonna go around you. Because the
speed limit says sixty five miles an hour, you're driving
forty five. Well sucks to be you. I know what
you're doing, and you're creating a hazard. You're absolutely creating
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a hazard. Now, I don't know how well I got
off on this because of this, uh this, I was
gonna say stupid text message. But you know when I
say stupid, I don't know always mean stupid. As if
Jared pol is stupid. I mean, it's just stupid. Because
well you're pointing out the obvious. Not only is it
incredibly unsafe for them, but everyone else in the highway
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slamming on their brakes. That's exactly right. And it drives
me crazy. And you know what this is a result
of we never stop and think about the larger picture
about why we have Look, we live in a complex society.
We've got freeways that speed limits are set at sixty
five when the freeways are engineered to carry traffic at
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eighty five miles an hour. But oh no, no, we
can't do that because you know, people die in traffic accidents.
That's why we have stupid programs like you know, we
got zero carbon emissions, we also have zero net zero.
We have this operation zero no traffic deaths. Well, that's
never going to occur. That is an impossible goal. And
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when you set when you set impossible goals, you set
yourself up for failure. And that's what government does. And
government does it all because of what they want to
somehow they think that they can make your life safer.
You know, who's the smartest person to make your life safer?
You It's like, I'm always fascinated by these public service
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announcement that we have on television about Oh, let me say, oh,
I know one in particular that really bugs me. So
a young family, they've got a crying baby. Mom is
at her wits in, doesn't know what to do. Mom
is at her wits in because the baby won't stop crying,
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and the mom's just inches away from abusing the child,
you know, throwing the child onto the bed, or you know,
putting a pillow over the child's head, or do you know,
something horribly dressy, something awfully, something awfully inhumane. So they
do a public service announcement, and I'm thinking, do you
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think that the mother who is struggling with a crying baby,
who doesn't have the skills to deal with that kind
of situation, which I know is frustrating. You don't get
me wrong. I understand what it's like to have a
kid that's sick or crying there, won't shut up or
won't do whatever. I understand, and those frustrations. I never
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thought about hitting my child. I never thought about, you know,
doing anything wrong, because I was raised such that I
knew that that was just morally, ethically, legally everything wrong.
But guess what I didn't need I did indeed an
ETHN public service announcement to tell me that, Because what's
the likelihood of anyone seeing that PSA and going, oh gee,
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I can call an eight hundred number and don't give
me this crab on Michael. If it saves one life,
it's not going to save one life. It's all about them,
those bureaucrats, those do gooders, wanted to feel good about
themselves and to justify their program because I'm sure they've
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got some program out there, just like we got. You know,
we got we got programs out the wazoo. Dragon I
were talking about this this morning. Might as well just
go ahead and tell you the truth. Let me tell
you about Remember the two homeless ladies I've been trying
to trying to help. Well, guess what I've stopped. I've
absolutely stopped. We spend millions of dollars taxpayer and private organizations,
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and I'm not talking about NGOs. I'm talking about private
charitable organizations who raise their own funds to help the homeless.
I've come to this conclusion based on these two women.
Now let me say this about them before I tell
you the story. I do think that their homelessness is
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because of actions that they I don't want to disclose. No,
I mean, there's no attorney client privilege here. So what
am I worried about. They told me how they became homeless,
and it was because the stupid things they admit was
stupid that they did.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'll put it this way.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Let's say that they were both employed and they both
had a small inheritance. They inherited some money, and the
money they blew. They they thought, oh, let's just quit working,
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let's just live office. And when they told me the amount,
I wanted to say them, I truly wanted to say
to them, how stupid did you think you? I mean,
how stupid were you to think that you could live
for the rest of your life on that amount of money.
Most people can't live that on that amount of money
for a full year, and you thought you were gonna
live for the rest of your lives on that amount
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of money. But I didn't say that. I just I
just I wanted to hear the story. So I just
listened to the story.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So then.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
They they stopped me again and they wanted to see
if I would help them get an RTD pass, So
I did. Now, I first checked with my friend about
you know that works with homeless, I said, I went
online to buy an RTD pass and.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I was astonished. The minimum for an.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
RTD pass is eighty eight dollars a month. Now, I
don't know whether that's a lot or not, but it
seemed like a lot to me. Eighty eight dollars to
ride that piece of crap light light rail that doesn't
really get you to where you need to go. It
it never gets you to the last mile. It's just
like here at Bellevue Station. It might get you within
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a mile or two where you need to go, but
beyond that you've got to sit around and wait for
a bus or you got to hook it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So I started.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Digging around, Well, there is a way to get a discount.
Now get this, Now you know the differce between Medicare
and Medicaid, Right, Well, if you're on Medicare, you can
get a discounted pass. But if you're poor and you're
on Medicaid, you cannot get a discounted pass. Now in
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what world does that make any sense? So I go
to King Soopers and I spend the eighty eight dollars
to get a pass. And here's why they wanted to pass.
They wanted one, not for two of them. They just
wanted one because the one that has a skill that
is in demand needed to be able to get say
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from here near the station, say up to Westminster. And
so if she had a freelance job where she could
go and make some money, she wanted to be able
to get on the light rail and do that, and
she didn't have the funds to do it. So I
bought the pass to do it. I bought a one
month pass because I was just not cynical. I just
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wanted to be prudent, and so I thought, well, we'll
do this one time and see how it works out.
And then I started digging around trying to find out
how do I go about getting a discount pass for them. Well,
there's this convoluted process. So that led to that led
me to do the next step because I actually got
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a text from them that suit let me go back
to the pass. We know it's about to turn cold,
but rather than you helping us get some winter shoes,
would you help us with this pass? Because now listen
to their logic, because the logic makes perfectly good sense
to me. If you help us get this pass, that
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will announce that would enable us to enable me the
one in particular that has the skill that will enable
me to get some of these freelance jobs, where then
we can get our own winter boots. And I'm thinking,
I love these two women. They're trying to do everything
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the right way. So then the next so I get
the pass, I meet them on a Saturday. We have
a long conversation. I explained to them that I'm willing
to get this one pass, but you have to do
and I took her phone, I type in the URL address,
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and I said, you need to contact this organization because
they are able to confirm your income and everything else,
and they will be able to get you a discounted pass,
and you might have since I'm paying taxes for this,
you might as well get the discount pass as opposed
to me. Shelling out an additional I think the delta
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was like sixty five dollars or something. So she promised
me she would do that, and then something else.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Hapen Marten boys, Hey, you guys are super cute. You
don't how many times I've been pulled over, and I've
done exactly what you said by putting on my four
ways and pulling into a parking lot or somewhere where
the officer is out of traffic, only to have them
get out of their car and chastise me for not
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pulling over immediately. Yeah, you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Every great day, I'd like to hear from Alio.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Why because I have several text messages to say the
same thing. Now, I've done it on a couple of occasions. Now,
albeit I don't call ever doing it on an interstate highway,
but I do recall doing it at least a couple
of times on a rural highway in New Mexico where
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it's a two lane road. And so you know, if
you understand two lane rural highways, you know that there
are section line roads, and there are a lot of
easy places where you can pull over where the highway
intersects intersects with the section line road, and you can
pull over easily on those places and get well off
the road. And I've never had I've never had a
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New Mexico State trooper or a sheriff for anybody else
chastise me for doing that. So obviously our mileage may vary.
So back to the homelessness, the every step that I
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took with these two women was based on their representations
to me, which I took a face value, and I
had and I still do have reason to believe that
ninety percent of what they were telling me was the truth.
I always just a lawyer in me, always listens to
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stories that people tell me and always think there's a
little there's either a little more a little less to
the story. There's always something, you know, there is always
something that somebody doesn't want you to know. So there's
always something that's left out. So we go through the
whole thing about the RTD pass. Now, somebody says, well,
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wait a minute. I you know, I think that you know,
Medicare recipients ought to get free or discounted RTD passes. Well,
as long as taxpayers are paying for it, well you know,
we ought to just give it away to everybody. I'm
not being facetious here, I'm I'm just taking to its
logical conclusion. We're all paying for it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Whether we use it or not, so it's free.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So it's just free. I mean, it's free, right, everything's free.
So as long as we're paying for it, then why
shouldn't I be able to write it? Because my fair.
Whatever fare I'm paying is not covering the cost of
maintaining the stupid thing to begin with. So just you know,
GI give it away to everybody. So we go through
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the whole thing about getting a pass then, and I
forget how long ago was this dragon where they wanted
to use the hotel.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It was coming up on that first real cold spot October.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Ish it was, right, I think it was. It was
sometime mid to early October.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
See, you and I talked about it, like they want
to use a hotel now, right, because we should put
off right, it's going to get a whole lot colder.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yes, so they so they they approached me again and
they they now this shows again you don't earn hotel
award points for doing nothing. I mean, you either have
to have a credit card, you have to stay at
the hotel there. There has to be some transaction by
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which you earned points at a hotel chain. For example,
I got a bazillion points with with Marriott and Hyatt
and I and I've earned those points by staying there
or using a brand of cart. So they approached me
and say, look, we have this cold front coming in,
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and we found that we have a place that will
accept our dog, and we've made a reservation for I
think four nights or something. I forget Dragon, but it
was it was a significant four or five nights.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It's something like that was close to that, I think,
and Dragon.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I both commented to each other that we thought,
that's kind of a waste. Now we can't judge because
Dragon and I are going home to homes that have
central heat and air. True, so we can't judge. But
we were thinking, and we said out loud to each other,
it's going to be a hell of a lot colder
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later on than it is for this particular cold front
moving through. I'm surprised that they're using and they had
this for this chain of hotels is not a slack chain.
It's not the Motel six. They had enough points to
make a four night reservation at a hotel one of
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these hotels in.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
One of the urban in one of the suburban areas.
And so they're.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Asking me, but they have to have a deposit for
the dog. Would I be willing to put down a
credit card for the deposit for the dog? Now, I
didn't argue with them about I wouldn't waste my points,
but I'm not I can't judge, you know, whether you
know I wouldn't want to stay out if it's going
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to get down to twenty eight degrees. I don't want
to stay outside. But that's their decision. So I I said, yes,
I'll do that.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So I forget.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I was I had a doctor's appointment or I had
a blood draw that morning, I don't know what it was,
but they needed that by noon. So I the whatever
appointment I had was running a little bit late. So
I jump in the car and I drive like a
maniac over to where this hotel is and I walk
in and I said, I'm here. I want to make
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a deposit on a reservation that's not in my name.
This is the name, but I want to limit the
amount because I don't want the credit card being used
for anything. And the guy said, oh, I can do that.
Who's the reservation for And I gave the name and
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he slowly looks up at me and says that reservation's
been canceled. Now I'm thinking, oh, they came to their
senses and decided not to waste the points for those nights.
And I said, I said, did they cancel it? And
he goes no, and let's just say it's the let's
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just say it's the four Seasons. No, the four seasons.
Corporate canceled the reservation. Now you got my attention. And
now I want to know why. I said, corporate canceled
the reservation. Yes, sir, can you explain to me why? No,
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I'm not allowed to give out out that information. And
I said so, but can you give me any hint
about why corporate would cancel this reservation. Let's just say
that there were prior problems, and so now there is
a nationwide ban on them staying in our properties. Oh well,
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now you got my attention.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Was there vandalism? Was there unpaid bills?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Or are they rock stars that we just don't know
about them? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Are there are these two? Is this uh Diana Ross?
And they tore up the room or something?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
He goes.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
All I can tell you is there is a nationwide
band and they've been flagged, and when it showed up
in our system, it was immediately canceled. Now I'm pissed off,
and I'm pissed off because I've driven all the way
over rushing to help them, only to find out that
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based on something they've done, the reservation's been canceled. So
I make one last attempt because now I want to know.
I'm like, I've been doing all of these things. I
want to know what the f's going on in that
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last meeting.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, actually, I take it back. It went down this
rabbit hole. It was not a meeting. It ended up
in a text chain, and I and they offered to
explain to me why. I said, I'm obviously very curious why,
but it's not my decision. If you want to tell
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me why, you're welcome to tell me. Yes, I'm curious
as to why. But here's the thing. I'm not going
to do anything else for you unless you do this.
So now I reach out to my political contacts and
I make arrangements. I get two individuals involved, a case
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worker and a management someone at a management level, and
I give them. I give both the case worker and
the management person the ladies cell phone number, and I
give the ladies, the case worker and the management person
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their cell phone numbers because I've gotten permission to do so.
It's now been how long a thing has now been dragon?
Three or four weeks?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Almost a month?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, almost a month.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
And I have checked on two or three times, and
they have made zero effort to contact. Now my people
have contacted them and said, we want to confirm that
you have this number and that we're willing to meet
anywhere at any time. You tell us what's convenient for you,
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and we have shelters that are available, and we will
work something out and we will do whatever we can
to help you. And we know mister Brown, and we're
not going to put any sort of pressure on you.
We're just we're we're just we just want to help.
Radio silence nothing. So I'm done and it's taught me
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a lesson, and that lesson is I said this to
someone in the past, say week, I become a little
coldhearted about homelessness. I think we need to do everything
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we can to take care of homeless veterans. But even
with homeless veterans, there may be some individuals that, for
whatever reasons, PTSD, drug addictions, whatever, are choosing to be homeless,
even if they're veterans. Doesn't mean we shouldn't reach out
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and try to help. But as I told the person
in management, the lesson that I've learned is you cannot
emotionally at all get invested in people who are homeless.
You can't do it because I have gone to extraordinary measures,
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including expending political capital, to help people who have since
chosen to either disappear or don't want the help, or
don't want to get involved, or have walked away, so
I have walked away.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon, this is your favorite juguer.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
You know, Michael, I used to volunteer as this homeless
art gallery and we would give out brochures to homeless
people and called knights to go somewhere, you know, to
spend nights, churches, whatever, and they refuse to take those
because the church required them some sober or to say
a prayer.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, I want you. I want everybody understand that the
reason I told this story is because dry Dragan knows
all about it, because I've been telling him all along
about what's been going on, and I've debated about whether
or not to tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm not embarrassed by it at all, and I don't
know whether I've been scammed or not. Scammed doesn't make it. It
doesn't make any difference to me. But the lesson that
I've learned is this, And to your point, our favorite
jew boy is that. I can't believe I just said,
jew boy, your favorite jew boy.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
That.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
We can We're paying all of these taxes to these NGOs,
and then all of these non charitable organs or these
charitable organizations like churches and others are raising.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Their own funds.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
So there's just this humongous plethora of programs out there
to help these people. And I pay If you knew
what I paid in taxes every year, holy crap. If
I had that much to invest, I could be a millionaire.
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But of course I don't, and I know that most
of my tax dollars are wasted. But the lesson that
I've learned is and maybe I was scammed, Maybe I
was totally scammed by these two.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
But let's face it, you spent more money on stupider causes.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I spend money all sorts of stupid causes all the time.
I actually give to political campaigns. That's about the stupidest
cause you can ever give to. So yeah, but I
just wanted to bring you up to date because I
know many of you wanted to help and do things,
and there's a great lesson to learn here, and that
(31:41):
lesson is, you know, as Dragon will tell you, my
antenna was always up because I always knew, because I
always knew as a lawyer, that there's always another side
of the story, there's always something else that you're not
being told. Well, obviously that's true. But the next time
(32:03):
you see a homeless person and they've got a dog
with them, or they've got a little kid with them,
you can look and you can think to yourself, thank God,
I'm not in that position.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But be very very careful, very truthful,
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