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November 6, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Michael, I'm sure you've heard the phrase. If you
think medical healthcare is expensive, now wait till it's free.
Yeah you think.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I want to talk about Bill Gates, But once again,
I'm gonna allow you to hijack the program for a moment.
Let me go back, let me see Lank finally notes again,
I didn't finish everything I wanted to say about Zo
fram because you will say, hang on, let me where's

(00:34):
my history, pull up the I need that document. Hang
on a second, live radio. Here, here's what we're doing.
We're doing live radio.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Do do do do do do do do do mom
my mom? Bump bump, were we go? I made a
list of the costs, just some general toss, particularly with
regard to housing. Okay, there are I mentioned earlier about

(01:07):
rent control. Rents are set by the Rent Guidelines Board.
It's not set by the housing market.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The million or so rent stabilized apartments that are in
the five boroughs make up about a third of all
the homes in New York, including owner occupied homes. As
I said, even left wing economists know that rent controls

(01:34):
produce only housing shortages. The four year freeze, I think
is going to decimate the New York housing stock. The
small landlords are already facing rising maintenance costs that you
know have double or so over the last five years.
The rents that are regulated by the Rent Control Board

(01:57):
are not enough to cover repairs, property taxes, or the
cost of those dead beat tenants. And it takes on average,
according to most sources that I can find, it takes
about two years to evict a non paying renter. And
I kind of glossed over at the end of that segment,
but think about that. So you own the property, you
got a deadbeat renter, you start the eviction process. It's

(02:20):
going to take you two years, but you still have
to because it's your property, so you don't want it
to fall into disrepair, so you got to keep maintaining it.
You own it, so you start to maintain the property taxes,
so you need to keep providing the services as though
the person was paying the rent, even though the rent
because its rent control, may not cost the cost. So

(02:41):
you're losing money, which means what you've got to do
is you've got to have such a volume of rental
properties that you can afford to have some that are
losing you money. So these over here that are perhaps
not under rent control or are such that they still
allow you to turn a profit on it. And then

(03:02):
if you're an owner, you've got to shell out all
the lawyer's fees, while the activist tenants don't do anything
because they got all the activist groups to go litigate
on behalf of them. There are about sixty thousand abandoned
rental properties in New York City. Now when you get

(03:24):
a rent hike moratorium, who knows, this guy's the limit,
you can go from sixty to eighty one hundred thousand
abandoned apartments. Who knows what it's going to be. And
of course what happens when a place becomes abandoned, it
becomes it starts to deteriorate, and then the drug addlet
people that are so called homeless will start moving into them,

(03:46):
and of course then you'll have fires. I mean it's
a tenement city again. The fair beating, so making buses free,
that's at a cost of almost three quarters of a
billion dollars a year in canceled faars. Nearly half of

(04:07):
all city New York City bus users already steal the ride.
They're already jumping the turnstile almost half. Now that shows
you go back to the broken windows theory. That shows
me I was just in New York was a few
weeks ago. Now, I showed my granddaughter the subway, showed

(04:30):
it to her in a nice area and allows the
area because I wondered to see what it was like. Now,
we didn't witness any crime. We didn't see anything. Of course,
we did see the homeless. We did see the drug
eddled nuts. We saw a lot of that stuff. But
imagine that you're a commuter. When you realize that half
the people on that subway ride with you didn't pay

(04:53):
anything because they just jumped the fair, that broken window
causes you to think, I don't know. Now, if you're
an upstanding moral citizen, you'll still pay your fare or
your fairs being paid by your company, so you don't care.
So you just swipe your card and you get on,
just like a normal person would. The full transit fare

(05:15):
two dollars ninety cents a ride, and discounts if you
have a weekly or a monthly pass. They're already subsidized.
New York offers half priced transit fairs to lower income residents,
but fewer than forty percent of those who are eligible
for reduced fare have even signed up for a half
price fair program. So if the principle of free bus

(05:37):
rides finally gets established in law or policy fair beating
in the subways, well it's going to skyrocket. The loss
to New York will be more than monetary. It's in fact,
I think the loss is more. The loss I'm about
to describe is even more important than the monetary loss.

(06:01):
Is the degradation of public order. Is the degradation of
respect for the laws, the rules, the regulations that we
all agree to as a society to adhere to so
we can all live together as three hundred and fifty
million people in this in this geographic area, or the

(06:22):
eight plus million in that little area. It's it's insanity. Now,
don't forget while we're talking about zophram, and you're gonna
need a hell of a lot of zopram if he
really gets this stuff done, because that taking place in
New York City will soon spread everywhere else because all

(06:48):
the DSAY, the Democrats Socialists of America, all the DSA
members will now be even more emboldened to go seek
election to oh, I don't know, maybe the Aurora City Council,
or the Douglas County school Board, or the Denver Well,
we've already had our Marxist in the state legislature. We've
had our Marxist self about communists on the Denver City Council.

(07:09):
But it will empower them to be even more bold
and even go seek office even more so and implement
these kinds of policies. This is a threat to this country. Now.
I don't think you can get a lot of this
stuff done because the Albany State Legislature is going to
block a lot of it. A lot of it has

(07:29):
to have the approval of the governor, Kathy Holkel. I
don't think is even though she may be terminally, I
she's not crazy enough to do some of this stuff.
So I don't think a lot of it will happen.
But that's not the point. The point is the proverbial
foot is in the doorway, is in the door jam,
and they're often running then, which we already see in Colorado.

(07:53):
Zoefram is promising five billion dollars worth of free childcare
to New Yorkers starting from six weeks old. I don't
where's that army of social worker is going to come from,
and what's going to be their level of competency. Run

(08:14):
down nonprofit organizations providing taxpayer funded foster care, the welfare programs,
all the support for illegal aliens, and all the like
that dominates the street scapes in all the less affluent
neighborhoods in New York City. Their employees are often but
one baby step ahead of their own clients in terms

(08:37):
of just social functioning. He wants to fight so called
food insecurity. Well, whatever, that's the I think that's the
most qrixotic of all of his proposals. A city run
grocery store in each of the five boroughs. So we're

(08:58):
to believe that New Yorkers can or to feed themselves
from private grocery chains because of the evil profit motive
of the greedy store owners themselves. If you exit find
I found this. This is not from personal experience. If
you exit the Lexington Avenue subway line at one hundred

(09:21):
and twenty fifth Street, that will put you in Harlem.
When you emerge out of that. According to one story,
it is a sea of fast food detrius, just jumpy,
half eaten pizza slices, is described as discarded soda cans,
paper wrappers from sub sandwiches, chicken bones with the meat

(09:44):
still on them, styrofoam clamshell containers, because the fast food
outlets on one hundred and twenty fifth Street do a
really brisk business, even though guess what's one block away
from that subway station offering such denans nutrition at a
fraction of the cost of the takeout, a real life

(10:06):
grocery store. My granddaughter was fascinated by two things in
New York City. She went to see where do they
buy groceries? So I had to drive, I had to
get a cab, We had to drive buy a whole foods.
Second thing was a gas station. Where do all these
people get gas? Where all these cars you know get gas?
I said, well, most of them trying to fill up
outside Manhattan because it's going to be a lot more

(10:26):
expensive than Manhattan. Plus, remember when we came across and
we went through the tunnel. You may not have realized,
and I forgot to look at the fair. But that
cost you, I don't know, probably twenty bucks or more.
I don't want. The fares are today probably higher than that.
So every time a worker who choose to drive into

(10:48):
the city is paying those fares. The an thing to
fill up with gas. They got to fill up with gas,
which is going to be I think the station I
saw was like seven dollars seven something gallon at an
Exxon over on the on the upper west side. Then
you have parking, well, parking is probably what some people

(11:10):
pay for a mortgage every month in Colorado. So the
whole thing about food shows that the whole SNAP program
is being used to just eat junk because these fast
food places in Harlem are not giving it away. No,
they're not giving it away at all, but they will

(11:31):
take your EBT card. They'll take that in the heartbeat
at all. Against the backdrop of him claiming that kids
in New York are going hungry, you'll have the biggest
problem with kids in New York is obesity. So if
the meals happen to be haphazard, the reason is not
the cost of the food. It's the disorganization of they're

(11:52):
unusually single, or they're usually single mothers, strung up on
drugs or otherwise, and they're just eat junk food. When
you stop and think about a grocery store, a King Soupers,
or a Safeway, whatever, the whole food I don't care.
It is a miracle of the abundance that capitalism provides us.

(12:15):
I always just I never failed to walk down the
aisle where the bottled water is. It's bottled water what
you're paying an outrageous amount for. And there's every possible
brand you can imagine, every pipe, price point that you
can imagine, every kind of bottle that's made you to

(12:38):
market it everywhere. It is absolute, a wonderful illustration of capitalism,
and I think sometimes the dumb part of consumers to
fall for that kind of marketing. He wants to replace
all of that. I think he must be completely ignorant

(13:00):
of the state of retail under communist, socialist countries where
those people are struggling to just eat anything, and that's
what he wants to bring to New York. If there
is a food problem in New York, it is the
relative scarcity of grocery stores in some areas. It's not

(13:22):
the cost of the contents. I think there would be
more options if the city reduced shoplifting. Target opened the
first Manhattan branch in East Harlem in twenty ten, big fanfare,
big story about it, and despite the efforts of Zoefram's
ideological allies to keep such a capitalist organization from ever besmirching.

(13:46):
You know, New York Cities and it's corporate cane free purity.
That East Harlem outlet bragged about how exquisitely multi cultural
their inventory was and the plethora of low cost fresh food.
It opened in twenty ten and it shut down in

(14:08):
twenty twenty three. Why retail theft and the crimes that
were bestowed upon their employees. Also for that, you can
think the district attorney, because he decriminalized shoplifting by simply
not prosecuting it. You don't have to have an Act

(14:29):
of Congress, you don't have to act to an Act
of the Legislature, you didn't have to have an Act
of the city Council. Just have a ideological district attorney.
It's the same ideology of you, oh, those poor persecuted people,
and just choose not to prosecute shoplifting, and guess what,
you don't prosecute something, you get more of it. So, mom,

(14:52):
Donnie so fram would not even have the police arrest
lifters in the first place because it's not a a
serious crime. So it's just gonna blow up the cost
to New York is more than just the money. It
is the mayhem, the mayhem that will start just you know,

(15:14):
the Even a nasty subway station that I showed my
granddaughter wasn't that bad. I mean, I've seen worse back
in the in the early eighties, so it wasn't as
bad as what I you know, I maybe could have
found the worst one, but I just wanted to see
the difference. But when I think about what Times Square,
for example, looked like back in the late seventies, in

(15:35):
the early eighties, oh my god, I would have I
would have never stayed there. But I chose to stay
there at this past trip simply because it was centrally located,
and I wanted her to see Times Square, because it's
not the Time Square that I grew up on. He
is and his ilk, all these democrats socialists of America

(15:58):
are a serious threat to the cohesion, to the culture,
to what it is to be an American. He wants
to turn us into Venezuelan's. He wants to you know,
we we you hear. In fact, I heard at the
top of the hour news or maybe it was a promo,

(16:20):
something about I heard Speaker Johnson talk about how you
know mom, Donnie is a Marxist and a Communist. Well,
to me that means something. But to a highly educated
but poorly educated, you know, twenty five thirty five year old,
a Marxist or a Communist doesn't mean anything. They have
no clue what that means. They just know that old

(16:43):
boomers are using it as a pejorative. But they don't
know what the practicality of Marxism or Communism is other
than free stuff and it you know, anti imperialism, anti capitalists,
it's all of that stuff, and that's all great. Really,
Let's take them all and take them to Venezuela. Let's
take them all to Havana. Let's take them all to Beijing,

(17:05):
not Shanghai. Too much capitalism there. Will take them to Beijing,
but we'll take them where the Wigers live, down the south,
down the southwest part of China. I don't see what
it's really like.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Ja la lah boom dia.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Will take your money away because I'm in charge today.
Marxism is the.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Way jah la lah boom da, ja la lah boom dia.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
And I stand corrected, and I'm more than happy to
say I'm staying corrected on this one. Uh Kathy Hokel,
the governor of New York, is not term limited now.
She says she's going to propose a ban on outside
income for state wide elected officials while serving in office.
She's talked about, you know, trying to get term limits

(17:55):
and posed, but she does not face term limits and
she is eligible to seek reelection in twenty twenty six.
I find that even more interesting because now with Zoefram
taking office, proposing all of these things, you now have

(18:17):
a conflict. Conflict in politics is what helps people decide, oh,
you're for this and I'm against that. I'm for this,
but you're against it. You get the negative, you get
the positive. So what's she going to do now? Because
her failure to denounce his policies. You know, remember when

(18:41):
she went to the game or they were shouting, you know,
let's go. They were shouting let's you know, tax the rich.
She claimed that she heard let's go bills. Really well,
that was kind of stupid because it shows she doesn't
know much about sports in New York as much as
I know about professional sports in Colorado, say for the Rockies,

(19:03):
which suck. It appears to me that she's now put
herself in a really awkward position because Mondomi's going to
start pushing for this stuff. If she's chosen to run
for reelection. Now she's got to decide is she going
to go along with that? Is she going to oppose that? Now?
I remember Zoefram won with more than fifty percent of

(19:24):
the vote. I don't think that's happened since like the
late nineteen sixties or something. That's been a long time
since that's happened. They usually guests get elected with pluralities.
So the fact that that's occurred sets this up. For Oh,
I kind of thought this was a story that I
might be able to just shove aside and if and

(19:47):
when he does something, we might you know, focus on
it for you know, thirty minutes or so here or there. No,
I think now we've got a great clash, a great
political clash coming between someone who wants to be the
governor of an entire state. New York City is not
the entire state. In fact, you just get into Westchester

(20:09):
County and it's already a lot different just across the
tip of Manhattan or the upper side of Manhattan, and
then you start getting into Westchester County, it's entirely different.
Then you get to Albany, then you get to Upstate,
you get to Syracuse, and you get to Rochester those
other places. Now it's different. Maybe it's really different. So

(20:33):
who's going to win that battle. Well, we'll just have
to watch and see. I've had enough of zofram. I've
got so much as zofram in me. I'm not going
to get any sort of heartburn for quite a while.
So let's move on. I wanted to talk about Bill
Gates for a minute. We talked a bill about Bill Gates. Oh,
I don't know, maybe a week or so ago, in
which Bill Gates was saying some really kind of fascinating things.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
You are a huge supporter of the Paris Clinton at
the time, and I wonder now, when you look back,
given that you're changing sort of the metric with which
you used, do you say to yourself that the Paris
Climate Accord and its goals were misplaced.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, not at all. That was a key milestone because
the countries of the world said, hey, this is a
mutual problem. The temperaturize. The entire world will experience the
temperaturize from the emissions from all these countries. So getting
countries to commit was very very important.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
The one thing about that accord.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
That turned out not to be realistic was the ambitious
goal of staying to one point five degrees.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
We won't be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Even if you took all the money away from health,
you wouldn't be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So now you know the question is.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Okay, what temperature level are we going to end up
a very important to minimize that, but not at the
expense of everything else.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Okay, but in the content of not at the expense
of everything else. So many businesses, companies including Microsoft, made
pledges around being net zero, trying to get in some
cases negative net zero, I mean going back and paying
for their carbon production from earlier. Was that a mistake.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Now, not at all.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
That's not the message that you're trying to suggen.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Not at all.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I mean, why have we been able to lower the
future missions. It's because companies like Microsoft and many others
focused on this initiative, and it's very important that those
companies help advance these new technologies by being the early

(22:47):
customers for things like nuclear fission, fusion, clean cement.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
They're driving.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Gutting the prices down, and that's the magic thing when
you the clean that's.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Enough of Bill Gates. That's enough. I can't against stand
the guy. What changed? Why suddenly is he not concerned
about the whole idea that oh, look, uh, we can't
keep it at one point five degrees and maybe that
wasn't realistic anyway, So let's move on to something else.

(23:23):
Is he the only one doing this? What if I
told you that actually what's happening is that to all
of the congregants in the churchill the climate activists, Bill
Gates committed the ultimate heresy because he told us that
we're not all going to die from scorching temperatures. That's
what having said in the past, the quote, we are

(23:43):
setting ourselves up for a humanitarian and a geopolitical disaster.
Denny on his personal website he attacked the doomsday view.
That doomsday view that says that in a few decades,
catechclismic climate chan angel decimate civilization. And he writes this,
Fortunately for all of us, this view is wrong. Although

(24:07):
climate change will have serious consequences, it will not lead
to humanity's demands. Now, his rejection of that catastrophic view
is not a small matter, because the world's great and
good will board their private jets. They're headed to a
city in Brazil, Bilim, for COP thirty, the annual shindig

(24:29):
that is very much based on the premise that the
world is coming to an end unless we take drastic action. Then,
according to the Secretary General of the United Nations and
Tony ol Gato's he said last month, climate change has
pushed humanity to the brink. Now that's just a variation

(24:50):
of what he said the year before that we were
at the breaking point. So we were at the breaking
point the year before, and now this year at the brink.
I mean, I guess next year we're on the brink.
It's kind of like whatever that theorem is that you
keep going half the distance to something you never actually
get there. So spewing all these superlatives has has been
an annual ritual ever since al Gore told us in

(25:12):
two thousand and six that we had ten years. See
two thousand and six, that's the See next year, you'll
be twenty years since he told us that that we
only have ten years, let's save the planet. The only
variation going on here is exactly how long we have
left before we seal our fate. From eight years Prince
Charles in two thousand and nine, five years, the World
Wildlife Federation in two thousand and seven, twenty twenty four,

(25:36):
three years ago, or we had three years left forming
to according to Christiana Figaris in twenty seventeen, you in
and or the two years that the current UN Climate
Chief Simon Steele told us about, Well, we had until
twenty four dragon is it November twenty five? Yes, November
twenty five now, So I don't know. Maybe the world's

(25:58):
end of out there. I'm paying attention. But as every
doomsayer has discovered throughout the history of mankind, it's one
thing to gain attention with all your prophecies about doom
and gloom before the hour which you say they're going
to happen. But then when those dates pass, it becomes
a little harder to be convincing, because we're all still breathing,

(26:19):
we're all still living, we're all still emitting. I'm still
spewing carbon dioxide right now. So I think Gates has
just realized that the hyperbole has lost its effect. Racism
everything is racist, it starts to lose its effect. He's
a socialist as a Marxist. Unless you explain why it
doesn't have any effect. So if you're going to keep

(26:42):
public attention on what you think is a cataclysmic event,
then you're going to have to change. Now, what the
doom mongers ever thought they would achieve was kind of
always amorphous. It was kind of opaque to me because
telling me that I'm going to die is really not

(27:03):
a good way of getting me motivated to stop emitting.
In fact, if you tell me I'm going to die,
you know next week, then boy, I got a lot
of travel. I got a lot of people. I got
to go see a lot of things I gotta do.
And I, despite the fact that you know air travel
is going to be cut back by ten percent, I'm
going to find a flight somewhere, or I'm going to
get in the beamer and drive like healthy, gets where

(27:24):
I need to go to see some people I want
to see before I die. You set an impossible deadline
for a society to eliminate their greenhouse gas emissions, and
you encourage them into apathy, not into action, but into apathy.
I can't do anything. Throw your hands up. It's an
impossible deal. Now, if you're a young person and you've

(27:49):
been indoctrinated into that cult by your teachers and professors
and government schools, that has just the opposite effect, which
is why I hear about climate anxiety mental health problems.
Maybe that's why Generation Z gen Z seems to be
so antisocial. No time to party when you got to
save the planet. But note the timing of his so

(28:11):
called wisdom. Trump just got reelected. It is now politically
and financially inconvenient to be so green and gloomy. Drill,
baby drill, that's the new mantra. And poof goes the
corporate America's insistence that we must all buy those overpriced,
doune looking electric vehicles. And now we see that in
the marketplace, capitalism has replaced all the fear mongering and

(28:33):
all the subsidies. The subsidies are disappearing, and now people
are saying, yeah, well without that, I'm not buying that
piece of crap. I'm buying this over here, which is
what I really went into the first place. Trump said
that one time his favorite architectural style is Louis the
fourteenth So think gold grand probably a little gaudy too,

(28:53):
that's why he's got the gilded plans for the new ballroom.
But like that monarch nicknamed the Sun King. Trump has
the oligarchs revolving around him, and they don't want to
stray too far from his universe because the president has

(29:13):
no qualms whatsoever about saying you're a winner and you're
a loser, and among the titans of industry, you don't
want to be labeled by the President of the United
States as a loser. And obviously initially Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg,
Sam Altman, Jeff Bezos, Oh, they figured that really quickly.

(29:34):
And so what they do. They they made all of
their They took their road to Damascus, except it went
tomorrow Laggoo instead of Damascus. So Gates is just a
late entry into this new popularity contest. Now I don't
think you're gonna see riding around, you know, on a

(29:54):
golf cart or golfing with Donald Trump. I still think
that's going to happen. And now I think we speaking
of Zolfram again, which I really didn't intend to. But
he deserves some of the share of the gratitude as well,
because no city has more billionaires or more millionaires than
New York itself. Heather McDonald explains that the economic boom

(30:16):
probably won't survive Mom Donnie's reign because he's committed to
making the rich pay their fair share, which means you're
fighting the one percent. And there's a word for that.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Hey, Michael. And that clip that you played of Bill
Gates talking, he said that they successfully lowered future emissions.
Am I misunderstanding this or is this more of the
kind of climate talk that I'm used to where they
keep throwing projections years out and just keep moving the goalpost.

(30:47):
Is he actually claiming that they did something that we
are not yet able to measure because that would fit.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yes, that's exactly what he's doing. That's exactly what he's doing.
I want to get sky. I got a short segment here.
Ronald Reagan famously said that the most terrifying words in
the English language are I'm from the government, I'm here
to help well, Zoefram the incoming is lomal communist mayor
of from New York has surpassed Ronald Reagan. He said

(31:19):
something that I think, frankly, is probably even scarier.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
We will prove that there is no problem too large
for government to solve, and no concern too small for
it to care about it. I think you all know
that I've always felt the nine most terrifying words in
the English language are I'm from the government and I'm
here to help.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Wow, we will prove that there is no problem too
large for government to solve, and no concern too small
for it to care about. The only conclusion I can
come from that is that for him, his mindset is
government is everything. Government will make all your decisions for you,

(32:07):
big and small, and they'll enforce that decision that they
make on your behalf because they know better what's good
for you than you do. They will enforce them on
a coloress basis, either through taxation, the point of a gun,
jail time, whatever it is, you will comply. You shall comply.
And it apparently is for his mindset inescapable in everything,

(32:31):
no matter how large and how small. So you are
people in New York anyway, and if they are able
to expand their reach on this, we've all become slaves. Now.
I've always thought that in many ways we're already slaves.
I challenge you to think about the other day. Remember
the gas station, all the rules and regulations you will

(32:52):
fill your car with gas, And then somebody said, look
at the labels on the Ladder. I challenge you to
spend the day to day thinking of about everywhere you turn,
everything that you do, when you get in your car,
when you go into your office, everything. I want you
to think about how everything that you have in your
life is regulated. And this guy wants to take it
a step further. The contrast between a third world ruler

(33:18):
and an American leader cannot be starker than that. You know.
Another rigging quote that comes to mind is something to
the effect about government is not the solution to our problem.
Government is the problem. Well, government batrotalitarian, catastocracy is a
problem that New York's not going to survive as a

(33:40):
great city. It will be escaped from New York. Now
many have suggested, in terms of the movie, let's put
a wall up around New York and let's keep them
in there and let's watch, let's see what happens. I
think they already put the wall up themselves. It's a

(34:02):
virtual wall. Some are escaping now there, you know. Jamie
Diamond says he will sit down chairman of JP Morgan Chase.
He'll sit down with Mondammie. I. I don't know why,
but he says that he will. I suppose it's a
good business to at least understand what your enemy's talking about.
But he just spend a billion dollars in new headquarters
in Manhattan, so he's probably not gonna go anywhere right now,

(34:24):
so he wants to get in and try to, you know,
weasel his way in to the good side. Well, I'd
like to hear that conversation. How does the chairman of
one of the world's largest banks sit down with a
guy that says, no matter what, no problems too big
and no problems too small. Yeah, government everywhere
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