12-10-24 - 7am - Birthright Citizenship and Daniel Penny

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yesterday morning, I was thinking of the perfect talkback for today,
and with that murderer that was picked up in Pennsylvania,
They're kept saying if you see something, say something, do something,
and I was thinking, how'd that work out for Daniel Penny. Well,
then I got to reading on x last night that

(00:20):
a very popular morning radio host in Denver had posted
the same thing. I guess Graape minds do think alike?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Ross posted that you're such an ass. You know, you're
the biggest ass in the entire building.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, Mandy's in the afternoons. Mandy's in the afternoon,
so it wouldn't have been her, he said. Morning show host.
H yeah, at leaves.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Do you know what prompted that tweet or that post
whatever it is On X SO I'm watching. I think
it was Brett Bear. I think that's because that's what
I generally watch. And they played a clip of Eric Adams,
who's standing, you know, he's standing at the lectern and
he's being he's like, you know, mister stock staring right

(01:06):
at the camera and thank God for you know, New Yorkers,
because when we see you know, as we say, if
you see something, say something, And then he added and
most importantly do something, and it kind of caught really

(01:29):
now somebody had to respond and say, well, the mayor
said he hoped that the verdict was not guilty. Yeah,
but that's not that's not the point. The mayor of
New York City, where you have a Soros funded district
attorney who's going, you know, Alvan Bryg, who's going after

(01:49):
Donald Trump on completely bogus charges, then goes after a
twenty seven I think he's twenty seven year old marine,
goes after this twenty seven year old former marine for
doing what you would expect someone to do, defend yourself,

(02:11):
defend others, and you get prosecuted for it. And the
mayor at the same time is saying see something, say something,
and most importantly do something. So mayor, what do you mean, like,
you know, wait, do something, sip and cower until he
comes over and kills you. Oh my god, you know

(02:33):
what speak. Let me get back to birthright citizenship in
just a second. But I had an email this morning.
This comes from well, no name, because he's a cop, uh,
he says, And by the way, he uses the term
popo as a popo in he mussage. So he obviously

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listens on the weekend too. As a popo in California,
we were instructed how to properly apply the hold by
a fellow officer who was a martial arts instructor, and
over my twenty two year career, I used it on
maybe six occasions, and only on people who were standing
at the time, and once I felt the body relax,

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parentheses go limp, the hold was stopped and I would
ease the person to the floor or ground. On the
one time that it did not work, I was wearing
an insulated jacket and was unable to put sufficient pressure
on the carotit artery to cause the person to go out.
By the way, a person who is put out from

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this procedure often piss or crap their pants if they
are wearing pants. I noticed that Daniel Penny was wearing
a jacket during the takedown and was on the floor.
Thus Penny would not know if Neey went out or not.
With this information, it's my belief nee did not die

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from the cold. Should never been charged in the first place.
But now I'm allowing, I'm allowing to talk about to
chase a squirrel, I'm as bad as Tammer's dog chasing
squirrels or as bad as my dog chasing rabbit.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I was gonna say, is that because the Limburgers are
too lazy to chase squirrels.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Broll that Limburger's. So when I take them to the
dog park and I'm there early morning, like on the weekends,
before anybody else's really kind of gotten there, they know
where the suicidal rabbits hide in the trees, and so
they'll go running to the trees and sometimes they'll, you know,
kind of that's the word I'm looking for. They'll kind

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of stirrups the rabbits, and the rabbits will charge for
the fence. The Limburgers will take after them. And let's
say it's one hundred yards from the trees to the fence,
the Limburgers make it about, yeah, maybe twenty five fifty yards,
and then they're like and they're like, yeah, well, maybe
I'll just walk over the fence and see what they're doing.

(05:04):
They're so damn lazy. Although one did try to climb
a tree because he had there was a squirrel of
a tree out there, and he did try to climb.
She did try to climb the tree birthright citizenship. Focus focus,
focus focus. So as Trump makes this declaration he's going
to address birthright citizenship, he therefore is going to consequentially

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have to deal with birth tourism and anchor babies. Me
I offer an explanation of birthright citizenship that I might
think qualifies as one of those head slapping moments where
you go, huh, why didn't I think of that? Now,
let me just put a caveat out there in the
very beginning. Some lawyers will vociferously disagree with my position

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about this, and I can argue both sides, but this
is the side I've chosen to plant the flag on.
As I said earlier, to accept this concept of birthright
citizenship means essentially that we have capitulated now if you

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are born to US citizens in the United States, you
are an American citizen. But birthright citizenship means that we
are now accepting the premise that any woman anywhere in
the world, as long as she can make it across

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the border legally or illegally, because birthright citizenship also applies
to people who come here legally. All right, stop and thinking.
Let me just pause from one moment. If a couple
goes to Paris on a honeymoon, and let's say they've

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done the deed, you know, a little premarital sex, and
they've gone to Paris for their honeymoon and their American
citizens they have no ties to France whatsoever. You think
the French are just gonna say, oh, look, we got
a new Frenchman. No, we're We may be the only

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country in the world that doesn't. I need to look
that up. I'm not sure somebody look that up for me.
Are we the only country in the world that doesn't.
The premise is any woman anywhere in the world simply
by crossing the border and dropping a baby somewhere out
in the woods or in maternity room, in the delivery

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room doesn't make any difference. We have given that woman
anywhere in the world, the power legally to unilwerie grant
her child or her children US citizenship, merely by showing
up in this country in time to drop the baby.

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In fact, she doesn't even have to be here. She
doesn't have to be legally president in the United States.
She merely has to get onto American soil in time
for the blessed of end of the birth, drop the
baby and when you put it that way, doesn't the
absolute stupidity, the inherently farcical nature of the currently accepted

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practice kind of come into sharp focus. I don't think
there is any way that the drafters of the Constitution,
or any of the ratified amendments, nor the US Supreme Court,
nor the President or the Congress ever intended such a premise.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Real quick, Michael. According to World Population review dot com,
the following countries have unrestricted birthright citizenship. A lot of
them one, two, three, four, five, six pop up seven. Yeah, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chad,
Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican, El Salva, or Fiji. Yeah, there's

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there's tons.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
So it's not just not like none of the major
Western European countries. You know what.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, No, you're Aguay.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, that's South America, Uela, No, that's Tanzania. No, that's
that's Africa.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
No.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Okay, So not like Great Britain, France, Germany, none of
those are on there. China is China on there.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
There are different there's a restricted citizenship. So I'd have
to read the article and go along further.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
But yeah, okay, interesting. I thought we were maybe the
only one.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, but then this, this specifically says every country with
unrestricted birthright citizenship.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Okay, all right, but let's go back to the drafters
of the Constitution, because we're governed by the Constitution. I
just don't think there's any way the drafters of the Constitution,
nor the US Supreme Court, or the President of the Congress.
I don't think they ever intended such a premise. There's
no record anywhere of that intended premise, although the elected

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officials of the Democrat Party very much intend to retain
it because they see this. I'm gonna use the term
migration here for a specific purpose, because I'm talking about
people who come here both legally and illegally, because, as
I said earlier, do the reverse. Now. Obviously my example

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of Paris fortunately fits after Dragon's research. But take the
inverse of that. So a couple of Parisians come to
the United States and she just happens to drop a
baby here while she's here. Oh, now, we've allowed them
to just unilaterally decide that that isn't an American citizen.
It's insanity.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
It seems that most of the restricted birthright citizenship countries,
a lot of the ones in Eastern Europe. One parent
must be a resident or a citizen of that country,
so at.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Least one correct, see, and I can buy that because
if you come here and you've married, you know, you
come here after the Vietnam War, and you've married a
Vietnamese person, and she's here on a green card or something,
and she has a baby, but you're you know, the
father is an American citizen. Yes, that baby's going to
be a citizen by virtue of at least one of

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the parents being an American citizen. Might kind of get
that one a couple of others.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
There's a United Kingdom, if one parent is a citizen
or legally settled in the country, or if the child
has lived in the country for ten plus years. It's
a very similarst thing with France. The one parent must
be a French citizen and upon their eighteenth birthday, they've
lived in France for at least five years.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
So it's a dualry requirement at least one parent and
they have to reside there for at least ten years.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Excuse me, no, no, no, it is an or it is
an or or okay, or the child has lived in
the country for ten plus years.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
So if it's an ore, then they do have the
equivalent of birthright citizenship. I still maintain that. Think about
it this way. Permitting a system of birthright citizenship, that's
really an abdication of duty. That's a deliberate nullification of
national sovereignty. War revolution that also seeks to nullify existing

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national sovereignty, And those whose loyalty is supposed to be
to the existing nation commit treason when they work to
aid or a vet nullification. Unrestricted migration plus birthright citizenship
equals sovereign nullification, which equals treason, which equals conquest. Just

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think about it in those terms. Now, the fourteenth the
Civil War amendments were designed to make certain that those
who were here as slaves who had been emancipated, had
full voting rights, had full citizenship rights, so that those

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individuals became citizens with full rights under the constitution, So
there could be no question about that. Those Civil War
amendments have now been extrapolated out to apply to anybody
that just comes here legally or illy. That's why I

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use the term migration here. So you just migrate, you're
an illegal immigrant, or you're here on a tourist visa, boom,
you got citizenship. We've abdicated the standards of citizenship to
the individual, not to the state. And I just think

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it's wrong. You truly are accepting the premise that any
woman anywhere because remember, who gives birth. I know I'm
treading on thin ice here, but in my world, the
females give birth. So you have now said that any

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female that can just get to this country before she
gives birth, that child, by her actions, becomes a US citizen.
Now who else? I mean, so anybody who is born
I keep using France. I don't know why anybody is

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born in Belarus and is a Belarus citizen if they
come here, even there, even if they're pregnant. They come here,
they tour around for a few weeks, and they go
back home and they have the baby, and the baby
is a citizen of Belarus. But that same woman, a

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Belarus a Belarusian, comes here, gives birth, she by her actions,
has determined that that child is a US citizen. Not
the government, not the state, not the constitution, nothing. We
we've just said, oh you know, senank or baby birthright citizenship.

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It's insanity. We we we have we have given up
American sovereignty to just anybody now, So, so think about
how you could overwhelm the system. This is a mechanism
for executing the Cloward Pivet strategy. And what's the Cloward

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pivot strategy? To take down the country, to take down
our system of government, to take down everything, to take
down the constitution, to overwhelm the system. So if you
open the floodgates and then say hey, come here and
just have babies, that's a nullification of American sovereignty. And

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if nullification of American sovereignty is also what you do
in a war or a revolution, aren't we undergoing some
sort of war or revolution by allowing these people to
come in here and just populate this country with babies
that are from foreign parents that are not American citizens themselves.

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Isn't that treason in conquest? Aren't we allowing the same
thing to happen here? And again, I go back to
the Civil War amendments. Those amendments were designed for people
who were already here. They weren't designed for people that
you know, once the slaves were emancipated, the fourteenth Amendment

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is passed so that those people who were brought here
as slaves who had been emancipated by Abraham Lincoln, who
when slavery was abolished by the thirteenth Amendment, we said,
now you are citizens, and we are by an affirmative action,
by the passing of this amendment, we're making you citizens

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and giving you full all the pennopley of rights and
obligations and privileges that any American citizen has has we're
now giving to you. Now, why would you then take
that amendment and apply it to people They're love slaves.

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They're not existing here, they didn't come here earlier. They
weren't forced. Well, some of them were forcibly brought here
by human traffickers or sex traffickers or child traffickers, but
that's an entirely different set of circumstances. I think that
what Trump ought to do is by exacutive order or

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whatever he needs to bring this to the forefront. Now,
ultimately the Supreme Court will probably end up deciding it,
but let's get that decided because I want it ended.
I don't want the ability of people who just come
here illegally to drop a baby and they suddenly get
an American citizenship. And as we talked about in the first hour.

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What they then in Colorado, well coverage for all of
Colorado's Yeah, taxpayers carry that.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
That occurred to me that you need more paperwork to
bring an exotic animal into the country, at least legally,
than you do for illegal immigrants. Oh, that's right, they
don't need paperwork.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
My bad.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Think all the paperwork give to fill out to do
anything in this country, paperwork, paperwork. If you want evidence
that the era of Black Lives Matter has drawn to
a close, then you really don't need to look any
further than that Manhattan courtroom where Daniel Penny was acquitted

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of criminal negligent homicide. And I want to emphasize he
was acquitted of that, even though I guess you could
argue in layman's terms, he was acquitted of the manslaughter
charge because the manslaughter charge was dismissed place as a
homeless man who's having a psychotic physical episode of some sort,

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who knows. And I don't like using the term chokehold
because I think that's questionable. I think there's reasonable doubt
about that, and I think there's reasonable doubt about what
caused the death. But when the jury delivered its verdict,
the response both in support and in opposition felt kind

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of muted. Now, there was a point where I thought
it was going to blow up, and I thought we
would have some Maybe I was hoping that there might
be some riots. I don't want any private property destroyed,
I anybody hurt, but I wanted to see the true
nature of Black Lives Matter. Then it got me to

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thinking about it. What's the difference, The main difference between
what they did to Derek Chauvin, George Floyd and what
they try to do to Daniel Penny Penny. What's the
main difference is that by now, not even the most

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pathetically naive would let the media dupe them into scene
that the Black Lives matter type for the good guys,
try as MSNBC might to convince you that, oh, you know, listen,
the black lives matter, those are the goodness. Really don't
believe me, And then others you may be able to

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hear behind me here that there's a crowd of protesters
that have gathered here to support Jordan Neely.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
They see this as a case that is about social justice,
racial justice in New York.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
City, the lack of support for people suffering.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
With mental health challenges, The lack of support for people
who are experiencing homelessness, all of which deeply impacted Jordan
Neely for many years leading up to his death, and
then others.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
You may be able to hear behind me here that
there's a crowd appropriate.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
MSNBC goes on and on about how the the real
victim here is Jordan Neely really. From the Washington Free Beacon,
a prominent Black Lives Matter activist appeared to threaten Daniel
Penny and called for violence after Penny was acquitted a
criminally negligent homicide in the death of a deranged homeless

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man on the New York City subway last year. Hawk Newsom,
who co founded Black Lives Matter Greater in New York
and now leads a new activist group called Black Opportunities,
shouted this quote it's a small world in the court
shortly after the jury acquitted Penny. According to reporters and attendance,

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At a press conference after the court was dismissed, Newsom
said quote, we need some black vigilantes. People want to
jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud.
How about we do the same now, I don't know
that's what they prosecuted. That's what a district attorney my

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call an explicit call for violence, though obviously the prosecutor
in this case would never do that. Just a few
years ago, white liberals shoveled money at vermin like this,

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Hawk Nooisom by the millions, Hawknosom, we.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Need something black visualities. People want to jump up and
choke us and kill us for being loud. How about
we do the same when they attempt to oppress us.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm tired.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
We need something black visualities. People want to jump up.
Ain't choke us and kill us for being loud?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
For me being loud? Man the difference in perspective.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I wonder what his thoughts would be on Jordan Williams.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I've never heard that name before. Who's Jordan Williams.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Jordan Williams who stabbed Victor Wadargo on a New York Did.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Jordan Williams had to be a black guy with a knife.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, black guy with a knife that stabbed a black guy.
It was acting crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
And I'd like to ask, oh, Hawk Newsome, whatdy things
about that? I really would like explain to me? And
I'd also explained to me. Explain to me mister Newsom,
when you say we need.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Some black vigilantes, vigilantes, people want to jump up and
choke us and kill us for being loud.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
For being loud, I don't know. I didn't Obviously, I
was not in the courtroom. I didn't you know, we
didn't have so in the courtroom. I didn't read the transcript,
But I don't know that he was ever accused of
killing Jordan Neely because he was loud. Everything I read

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said he was making threats, threats to kill people, to
harm people, lunging of people.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Don't get me wrong about the whole Jordan Williams saying,
I am ecstatic that Jordan Williams was not charged. Oh
we I you know, Dragon, I don't think I've ever
really mentioned that on air. I am not upset one bit.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I don't think you needed to mention that. I think
we get your point of view. I think it's pretty obvious. Okay,
all right, I appreciate that. Now, whether black supremacists get
traction this time around remains to be seen. I mean
it's early, you know, twenty four hours we we you know,

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we still could see it again. Washington Free Beacon. Newsom
was an organizer time protests outside the court every single
day during the Penny trial. Activists shouted murderer, murderer and
waved signs that said convict Daniel Penny.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Penny's attorney suggested the behavior was a form of jury
intimidation in court on Monday and asked prosecutors to do
more for jurors not to hear their chance. Shortly after
that request was denied, Penny was found not guilty on Monday. Well,
kudos to the jury for showing some guns. They don't

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make them like that in say Minneapolis, where Derek Chauvin
is convicted for doing essentially the same thing. So maybe
it's not too late for New York to throw off
the Moonbat rule that seems to govern everything that goes on.
You know, this case had all the ingredients that, going

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back to Derek Chauvin, that just a few years ago
would have sparked widespread demonstrations. What do you have here?
You get a white man killing an unarmed black man
caught on video in a major American cities. But guess what.
Times have markedly changed since twenty twenty, And I would
say we can thank the Democrats for that. We really

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can I think that from Derek Chauvin and George Floyd
in the riots of twenty twenty, the election of Joe
Biden and all of these Democrats taking over that I
think there's there's a backlash. There's a huge backlash Alexandria
Cassia Cortez to show you just how dumb this woman is.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
You know, doesn't that? I just feel like that if
that tells us everything, if we do not want violence
on our subways, and the point of our justice system
is a level of accountability to prevent a person who
he does not have remorse about taking another person's life.
I mean, even people who have engaged in mansa or

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taken a life accidentally expressed remorse.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Wow, that's she right. There is an example of I
know it's hard to hear, well, you know, doesn't that?
I just feel like that. That tells us everything, if
we don't want violence on our subways, and the point
of our justice system is a level of accountability to

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prevent a person who does not have remorse about taking
another person's life. I mean, even people who have engaged
in manslaughter or have taken a life accidentally express remorse.
And so the fact that a person has expressed no
remorse referring to Daniel Penny indicates that there's a risk

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that it might happen again. And if we do not
want to un that level of violence she's accusing Daniel
Penny of Daniel of violence, then we should exert a
level of accountability to prevent that from happening again. These
people's minds are twisted, absolutely twisted.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I tell you that the lawyer brain in me always
tries to get into their into their state of mind,
you know, put walk in their shoes, try to understand
where they're coming from. You tell me how this is
a rational human being, you know. And so the fact
that a person Daniel Penny has expressed no remorse, why

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should he indicates that that's a risk that this is
going to happen again. I hope it does now. I
don't want another person prosecuted. I want to prosecut to
look at a case like this and say, there's no
way in hell I'm going to prosecute this. There is

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there is, you know, I'd bet you a dollar or
two a don't that. Alvin Bragg absolutely believes that there
was reasonable doubt. He himself probably had reasonable doubt. They
may have had a short, really kind of circumspect discussion

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about should we bring this case or not, because I'm
not sure we can really prove beyond a reasonable doubt
that there was men that the elements of manslaughter existed here.
But then the conversation swerved into but here we got
a white guy that killed a black guy that was
having some sort of psychotic episode on the train, and
we can't have that, my by golly will have We'll

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have white people going because Alvin Bragg's Black will have
white people going after black people, just like Hawk Newsom said,
every time they're loud. I'm not saying I agree with that.
I'm saying this how they think they really believe that
Daniel Penny just went after Neely because he was being

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loud on the train. If that's the case, then you
know people that you know, jam up and noisy on
an airplane, people that talk too loud in a movie theater,
people that are noisy and in a restaurant just go
over and just put another choke hold. Yeah, yeah, and

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don't show any remorse for it, because you know, according
to aoc UH, you're just you're the problem. I think
the shift from this acceptance of black lives matter and
all this stuff going on. Was the minute that Hawk

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Knewsome called for Black vigil aunties to reach taliate. That
sounded more like a desperate cry than a rallying cry. Michael,
I don't understand how anybody could be killed with the
gun in New York? Aren't they legal there? Well, if
you're a cool person, you can get a concealed carry permit,
but you've got to be you know, you gotta be

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don Imus or something, or Michael Bloomberg to do that.
You know, Michael Bloomberg that doesn't you know, wanted to
limit how much soda you could buy it one time. Nonetheless,
not only has his own private security, but has a
concealed carry permit too. Have you ever thought about private
security and how whether it's you know, CEOs or actors, actresses,

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or for that matter, even politicians to have security details.
Yet all of those people generally speaking of pose you
and I being able to carry a weapon conceiled or
open because they're anti gun, Yet they rely on guns

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all the time to protect themselves. The hypocrisy is boundary