12-10-24 - 8am - The Middle East Is Up For Grabs

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Mike, didn't you think the Black Lives Matter movement
had an expiration date for the general public?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Anyways?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I mean it all seemed to kind of come about
because so many people who normally have to work for
their daily bread were suddenly sitting home collecting a check.
And according to our experts, the only thing important enough
to overcome the social distance rules was racial justice.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, good point. I think.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I think with the tipping points for Black Lives Matter?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Was that iconic? Was it?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
MSNBC Dragonware They're you know, they're standing in front of
the burning buildings and they're talking about it's the mostly
peaceful protest.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I think there was a car dealership, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
A car dealership, and there's people running up and down
the street. I mean, it's it's straight out of animal house.
Just I think that was the beginning of the end.
And then the election of Biden and the the constant racism.
Just I think people just had it. H I said yesterday,

(01:21):
I didn't go into it in much depth, but the
Middle East is really up for grabs. It is imploding. Assad.
I heard this morning it hit. I heard conflicting reports
yesterday about Bashir Assad that he had left the country,

(01:46):
but the plane was down, they didn't really know where
he was. This morning on the way in there reporting
that Assad is now in Russia, which shouldn't surprise any
of us. If somebody's gonna giving him asylum, it's going
to be putin and he's going to be in in Russia.
And then the more I read about this group HTS

(02:11):
and its leader Jilani.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I think it really bugs me to Donald Trump's not
president right now.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Let me just get cut to the chase, because Biden
is completely absent, and so there's this horrible vacuum in
the Middle East right now, and the only people that
are well, I mean, everybody's doing something. But the something
that everybody is doing is to protect their own national interest,

(02:44):
which is I understand that. I'm not criticizing. I'm just
saying that's what's happening. So net and Yahoo is sending
IDF soldiers into this demilitarized zone. It's approached me to
a hundred square miles they think on the border of
Syria and Israel. But now Netanyahu, God bless him.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
This poor guy.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I say poor guy only because he is you know,
he's cylinder indictment for some corruption charges. At the same
time that he's got a war cabinet that he's had
to dismiss some people from the war cabinet because they
disagree with him, and so far, I really can't criticize
anything that he's done. He's almost he hasn't completely yet,

(03:35):
but he's almost decimated Hamas. Now that's great, but that
means that at some point Israel's going to have to
figure out what to do with the gosins that live
in the Gaza Strip. Some people may call them Palestinians,
they're gossins, and that's going to require Israeli and I

(03:58):
would not use the United Nations, but it's going to
require some sort of international cooperative effort to provide security
services to civilians, which means there will be constant little
squabbles and attacks and skirmishes that break up until Lord
knows when and somehow stabilize that area until they can

(04:25):
eventually And when I say eventually, I'm not even talking
about within a year. I'm talking about it. It might
be ten years before they can stabilize enough to become
self governing. Natan Yahoo is also which I think is
brilliant on his part, and it's brilliant because it accomplishes
several things. He is now bombing some of the munitions

(04:49):
and equipment depots inside Syria in order to prevent that
equipment and those munitions and those rockets and the missiles
and everything else. I mean the nerve guys who knows
what Bashir Assad had, but he's now bombing those areas
to prevent that stuff from falling into the hands of

(05:12):
HTS or anybody else. Russian troops are in a convoy
leaving Syria. That may or may not mean that Russia
loses its naval and air bases in the Mediterranean. I mean,
I hope it does, but there's no guarantee of that.
But nonetheless, at least some of the foot soldiers are

(05:35):
in a convoy on the way. We're getting out of Dodge.
We this country. You may or may not be aware.
We're kind of doing what net Yahoo is doing, and
that we have been doing some bomb strikes to accomplish
two things. One to also destroy any of the military equipment, munitions, bombs, missiles,

(06:01):
everything else, to keep those from falling into the hands
of not just HTS, but ISIS and al Qaeda and
al Nusra, all these different terrorist organizations that all exist
within this s whole country called Syria. And I boy
again talking about really wanting to use the S words,

(06:22):
that is exactly what this country is right now. We're
also doing the bombings to kind of protect the Kurds,
uh so that they don't get run over by HTS
or some of the others. And and what's complicating is
even within the Kurds, there are some terrorist organizations that

(06:43):
are anti American. So while we're trying to protect the
Kurds in general, we also have to fight off those
terrorist organizations that are Kurdish organizations that are anti American.
But notice one country that I have not mentioned, the Iranians.

(07:04):
I can't find now. Again this is as of probably
what seven o'clock last night. I haven't checked a him
this morning, but I can't find that the Iranians are
doing anything. So the Russians are in a week in position,
the Iranians are in a weak in position.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm all for that.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
The Israelis are in a strengthen position. Lebanon, who knows
what's happening with Lebanon has Belaw is obviously weakened because
they're not doing anything right now. They you know, Netanyaho
has pretty much decapitated them, so they can't make any
moves right now. And the HOHO this kind of remain quiet.
So all of the uranium proxies are remaining quiet. But

(07:45):
you still have al Qaeda, ISIS and HTS and then
all these little subsets that all of those organizations have,
and many people, Oh Turkey, I can't forget Turkey. So
Turkey is probably trying to rise up take control of Syria.

(08:13):
Why Turkey is a member of NATO, Why we allow that?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
In fact, if you look at the headline right now
in Drudge Erdawan in Turkey rises in the Middle East,
Iranian regime next to fall question mark who knows.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
The Baracal.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
But let's go back. Let's get a little historical perspective.
And before I give the historical perspective, the reason this
is so important for you to understand is and I can't.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'm not claiming that I fully.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Understand all of the real relationships between all of these
terrorist organizations and particularly Jilani, who is the current head
of HTS, because way too many Americans are looking upon
Jilanni as some sort of moderate that we can deal

(09:19):
with I think that's a huge mistake. That's look what
we did in Afghanistan. So Trump starts a negotiation with
the Taliban that, look, I want to get out of
this country as much as you want us out of
this country. But here are the conditions upon which we

(09:41):
are going to withdraw from the country. And the Taliban
probably would have complied with those requirements, those prerequisites had
Trump won reelection, but he did not win reelection in
twenty twenty, and Biden, being the absolute fool that he

(10:03):
is when it comes to foreign policy, just abruptly withdrew
and the Taliban realized they don't have to comply with anything.
And in fact, we withdrew knowing that the Taliban was
beginning to make their moves and beginning to surround Cobble,
and so anybody who had half a brain, which does

(10:25):
not include Joe Biden, could have looked to that and said,
oh wait a minute, let's slow down, let's go back
to what Trump was negotiating, Let's reinstate those and let's
slow down our withdrawal from Afghanistan. And let's at least,
you know, hear from the generals about whether or not
we ought to keep Cobble as a forward operating base.

(10:47):
You don't have to keep tens of thousands of soldiers there.
You could have kept fifteen hundred three thousand at the
most and had a forward operating base. Again, go look
at the map and realize where Afghanistan is, and realize
how grave of eyes and ears that would have given
us not just toward China and Russia, but toward almost

(11:08):
all of the Middle East. But Biden blew that this
is why I want Biden stayed quiet. He came out
yesterday the day before made some statement about you know,
the Syrians, and you know how we love the Syrians
and the Syrian people have risen of them, but nothing
about what our expectations are or nothing, no lines in

(11:29):
the sand about HTS or ISIS or al Qaeda.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Don't do this or.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Even any statement of the Uranians to the Uranians. Even
though the Uranians are not doing anything. You still need
a president just going to say to the Iranians and
while you're not doing anything right now, don't you dare try.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
To do anything.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
The reason this is important is because, and I know
it's not an exact comparison, but you know, George W.
Bush gets elected and in two thousand and we we

(12:12):
take office in two thousand and one January twenty, two
thousand and one, and I can remember some of the
very first meetings were all about how, you know, he
wanted to focus on education, and he wanted to focus
on this compassionate conservatism or whatever he called it. He
was a bunch of bull crap, but nonetheless that that

(12:32):
was his agenda. He was not paying attention much at
all to international affairs, and what happens nine to eleven
occurs and suddenly it's a wartime administration. And of course
that changed my life completely too. I mean I went
from Okay, let's just you know, we need to really
focus on on kind of rebuilding uh and reorganizing FEMA

(12:56):
and blah blah blah and doing all that sort of stuff.
And now all of a sudden, I'm thrown into the
midst of this international conflict that has domestic implications that
I got to focus on all that all the time.
It completely up ends everything. And I see the same
potential happening to Donald Trump, and it worries me. It's

(13:20):
not that I don't think that Donald Trump can't walk
into gun At the same time, but if the Middle
East were to blow up, and I do mean literally
blow up, and suddenly al Qaeda, Isis has belaw, the reignings,
the mullahs, who have I left out hts, they all
decide the who things, They all decide that now's the

(13:42):
time we can wipe Israel from the face of the earth.
And now we get drawn into that, and domestic issues
take a back seat. And quite frankly, with everything going
on in Russia and Ukraine and everything going on in
the in the Taiwan Straits, I mean, all of a sudden,

(14:03):
we really are in World War three, And so we
need to understand that at this point, Secretary of State
Blincoln is completely useless. Joe Biden is completely useless. Do
I need to tell you that Kamala Harris is completely useless.
So we don't have any sort of political leadership in

(14:25):
the country right now except the sheer strength of his
willpower of Donald Trump to influence international affairs right now.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Which he is able to do.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
And which he needs to step up and do even
more of right now, because this is a precarious time. Now,
why it happened right now, I really I can't explain
it all. I know is that what a week or
so ago, ten days or so ago that HTS and
the others started to make moves on the Syrian army.

(15:00):
Now there's a couple of different Syrian armies, but I'm
talking about Basher Assauds Syrian army, and they just melted
like butter. And why I had yet to understand why.
I continued to read and try to understand why, but
Assaud's army and his security forces just dissipate. And so

(15:23):
now HTS has taken over the country. Bashir is gone,
the sods are no more, and SyRI is perhaps briefly free,
and I don't mean free like it's going to be
some sort of constitutional republic next week, but it is
free from the dictatorship. That's why I am concerned about

(15:45):
everybody who's paying so much attention to Julani, the head
of HTS, and I've heard him described as a moderate.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
He is not a moderate.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
People talk about how he was kicked out of al Qaeda. No,
actually he kicked al Qaeda out of his organization. And ISIS,
of course, is a product of al Qaeda. So these
terrorist organizations, they're all singularly one thing. Radical Islamis every

(16:21):
including Jelawni. So whatever you might hear about HTS, don't
consider him. Don't let them means the mainstream media, don't
let the cabal convince you that he's a moderate. He's
a radical Islamist. And right now we have at least
a half dozen radical Islamist organizations that have taken over

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Syria that have little pockets here and there, Radical Islamis
that are Kurdish, they've taken over their area, and then
the others are taken over the other parts of Syria.
Putin has been weakened, the Iranians have been weakened, and
power abhorrors of vact So all of these different factions

(17:03):
are now jocking for power, which is why it's so
important that we're doing what we're doing in terms of
bombing some of the infrastructure, and the Israelis are doing
the same thing. And you notice that nobody is sitting.
The Molas are not saying anything, and Vladimir Putin's not
saying anything, which means they truly are weakened at this point.

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So if power abhors a vacuum, and we're trying to
keep all of the weapons out of the hands of
the radical Islamis. That doesn't mean that the radical Islamis
don't have an opportunity here to take power and take control.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
And now.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
The one the Bashirasad was a sub human. He was
a horrible dictator. He was he was a He was
as bad as Jijing being or Vladimir Putin and ane
of the rest. It's probably worse in them actually in
some ways. But at least he wasn't focused on Israel.

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He was just focused on maintaining his power and building
as well and keeping the people subdued.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
That's all blown up there, completely blown up. So what
does it mean.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Should we trust the opposition's sudden moderation.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's not moderation, Michael, I missed it. Who later reath
at the Arizona this year?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
After all, Joe was in Africa, Joe was in France,
and who knows we're where tomawin?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
But who laid reath at the Arizona? Who laid the
wreath at the Arizona? Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well, I saw part of that ceremony yesterday and the
only thing that caught my attention was the I think
he was one hundred three years old, Pearl Harbor survivor.
I think he was a navy guy that spent six
weeks doing physical therapy so he could stand up out

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of his wheelchair and salute. I get chills just thinking
about what.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I got goosebumps. And you said that, Yes, one hundred.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Three years old, and his only determination was to get
there and to be able to stand on his own.
And so they showed the wheelchair from kind of a
rear side view as one person on one side helped
him stand, and then he took his right hand, all

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hunched over, one hundred and three years old, and saluted
as he looked toward the Arizona.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Holy cow.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
You don't need no steaking president there for that. That's
all you needed for that. I wish I knew his name.
I'd say I just I don't remember his name, but
God bless him. Goober number forty one thirty seven. Michael,
If you're not hearing anything about Iran or Turkey right now,
why do you think there is silence about this about them?

(20:28):
It should be obvious. And NETANYAHUO is at his trial,
not only I don't think he's. No, his trial's been postponed.
I don't think he's in his trial. Asad probably said
no way to invading Israel. True, and after fifty years
he has gone all of a sudden, did know for
Russia they probably said no way also to invading Israel.
Can't be sure, of course, it still remains. The question

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still remains. Why do the Syrian forces just dissipate and
just dissolve so quickly?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Why did? Why?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Now?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Why this week?

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, it's probably a compilation or or compiling a combination
of pylon of them seeing what is happening in Lebanon
and in Gaza, I for that matter, what's happening in Tehran.
I mean, let's let's not forget that the id IF

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attacked in Tehran, took out, took out almost all the
Iranian air force, made it virtually impossible for them to
fly cover for the uh for Hasbelah. And then they
see what happened has Belah. So I think that perhaps
they were just like, we give up, we don't want

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to be next, but let's go back to al Gilani.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
His whole.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And maybe Ertawan ought to be next instead. I'm trying
to think through how to approach this with the In hindsight,
it's it's clear how Bush and the entire State Department
back in two thousand and six were in their acceptance

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and their embrace of Ertawan taking over Turkey, because by
two thousand and six he was already reaching out to
hamas Ertawan a membro NATO, was providing logistical support for
the Islamic States rise in both SyRI and Iraq, while
his family profited directly from Islamic state oil sales, and

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today Jews flee Turkey and Ertawan coordinates ethink cleansing cleansing
of Syrian Christians, the Koords and the Yazides. Turkey special
forces and mercenaries coordinate with terrorists and Libby and Somalia.
They facilitated the ethnic cleansing of the Armenian community in

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the Nigorno. So rather than being a bridge between Europe
and the Middle East and a force for stability, as
everybody in Washington once thought that Ertawan would be, Ertawan
consolidated power, ideology, Trump pragmatism, and today Turkey is a
terror sponsor in everything but name. And the question about

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Jilani is whether his so called newfound moderation everybody keeps
touting is sincere or is it like Ertawan just be
a pragmatic feint to buy time as you consolidate power.
Because never forget this about idlogs, I would say this

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is even true. I'm not saying that democrats are terrorists.
I'm just saying that democrats are ideologues, and ideologues seldom
change their stripes. Oh, they change their tactics, they change
their timeline. And Jilani's choice of allies in Turkey ought

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to give us reason for concern. Reformed is lawmists tend
not to choose unrepenting ones as their sponsors, and that's
what Jelani is doing. We're naive to think that Jilani,
a radical Islamist terrorists, is truly moderating his positions. He's

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simply trying to get the stupid and foolish current administration
to see him as a moderate, to see him as somebody,
Oh we can work with this guy. He always is
you know, you know, he was a he was a
partner with all Bagnati. I mean, come on, he's not

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going to change.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
So all these.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Claims that Jilani was moderating The New York Times, uh,
this State Department, the Middle East Institute, all these people
who are supposed experts in the Middle East are all
tauting about how, oh, we've gotten rid of a Sod,
and Jilani seems to be rising in power, consolidating his

(25:39):
power with the help of Heverdawan, and he's a moderate.
So here's somebody we can work with. I don't think
Trump will buy that. I think Trump will see him
for what he is now. This also assumes that he
doesn't establish some sort of caliphate or some sort of

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Islamic republic where you know, he remains the supreme leader,
but the day to day operations are left as you know,
somebody has a title of president or something, kind of
like the Mola's doing in Iran. The point that I
want to emphasize about all of this is you're going

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to hear from the cabal because the New York Times
will be reporting about, Oh, isn't it wonderful? You know
that you know, Sod's gone, We got this moderate here,
somebody we can work with, and maybe the Syrian people
will now be free and they'll be allowed to flourish
and everything else, and they may be for a short
period of time. What do you think people in Turkey thought, oh,

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here's this moderate Urdawan. He always wasn't always will be
a radical Islamis they don't change their stripes. Now there
is good, and the good is the Iranian regime may fall.
But if the Iranian regime falls, what are we.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Going to do?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
And isn't it interesting that all of this happens to
be occurring when we've got some forty days before we
have the legitimate president in office. What we have right
now is an acting president using by again, as I

(27:24):
said in the last segment, his sheer force of willpower
to influence world events as best he can without actually
holding the office. He can't dictate anything. He can't order
the military to do or not do anything. He can't
order the State Department, the diplomats, he can't order natal

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or any He can't do any of that. All he
can do is by the sheer power of persuasion, get
people to either do or not do certain things. Now
I think most of the world recognizes that the other guy, Biden,
is totally, completely worthless. He doesn't do anything except read

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from the teleprompter, pardons Turkeys, does stupid things, goes to
Angola because he likes trains and he wants to build
that train from I don't know, from I don't know
from Taipei to Paris. I don't know where the hell
it goes.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
No where do I care.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Right now, he's not doing anything to stop China's acquisition stuff. Now,
this activity in the Middle East may slow down Russia's
activity in Africa, but it's not going to slow down
the Chinese. And I don't think Biden has the capacity
to even understand that.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I think it's.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Obvious that a lot of Americans, Western officials, government officials,
because Assad was so bad that nobody should heads and
he tears it his downfall. But when that happens, wishful
thinking begins to take place. It can be comforting for
all these diplomats, the academics, the think tankers, the cabal,

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all of the media to believe that there's no danger
to an Islamis regime in Syria, or the worst case
scenarios without Kaida on the Israeli border with Syria or
radicals attacking an already vulnerable Jordanian monarchy are off the table.
Jilani and the other Syrian opposition groups play into those
sentiments because they try to ensure calm and prevent reprisals

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against minority communities, especially in the Lappo, which they took over.
But the self deception can be deadly. It can be
as deadly as it is common. So these reassurance of
the pundits that you're going to hear about and policymakers
about Jilani despite his past extremism, mirrors exactly that which

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US officials greeted or to one when his Justice and
Development Party swept to power in Turkey in two thousand
and two. And look where we are today. They never
change their stripes. They're always exactly the same.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
It's sigh for our country to change the time that
president takes over after the election results. I mean, let's
make this like ten days afterwards, and then a president
takes over as January twentieth is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's it seems ridiculous, except think about you'd have to
change the confirmation process because a president now the White
House staff not a problem, because the White House staff
doesn't require Senate confirmation. So you can appoint your chiefs
of staff. You can appoint your national security advisor, your

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Homeland security advisor, your Comms director, your press secretary. You
can put the entire West Wing staff together and never
have to go to Congress about any of it. But
if you take office, say before January twentieth, but let's say,
you know, December one, who's going to run the State Department.

(31:13):
You don't want the old you don't want Anthony Blincoln
running the State Department. You don't want what's his name
over at Defense. You don't want any of those. You
want all those people gone. Do you still want.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Merrick Garland?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Would Donald Trump want to take the oath of office,
sit down at the resolute desk in the Oval Office
and have Merrick Garland sitting over the Department of Justice
or Christopher Ray sitting over it at the FBI?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Do you want a CIA director that has probably been
lying about you before? No, So there's got to be
some time period by which which the president determines who
he wants to be in the cabinet. And remember, while
we're focused on you know, the Secretary of Defense, Secretary

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of State, the Treasury, Secretary omb Commerce, you.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Know all all of the big ones, we still have all.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Of the deputy secretaries and the undersecretaries to appoint. All
of that takes time.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
So I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I just think it's more driven right now by the
world's circumstances than it is anything else, and the fact
that the current regime is completely bringing in utterly bring
in