12-11-25 - 10am - California Electricity Prices Have Skyrocketed

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Rod, I have a twelve hour drive down in
New Mexico for work today. If you could work your
magic and produce the program real nice so that Michael
doesn't put me to sleep much. Appreciate it. Thank you
very much.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, i's say you mister ready Rod? What say I? Indeed?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Eh, you yourself, just like Dragon, are already asleep.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I mean I had to get up very early today
I work out. It was really rough, wasn't it. I
had to work out early this morning. Oh, poor little boy.
I'm so sad.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
I probably got up like two hours before you did today.
Sometimes you get up to six.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Mind you the hour and a half drive, do you know?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, true, you got the hours a half drive. But
do you know that even after making the change over here,
I was up every morning at four o'clock. Now five,
it's like five five thirty. I just tried to wake
up five o'clock this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I take a nap, I have, well, okay an app
you need one?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh, well, I'll take my you know, I'll take my
afternoon nap before I go to Denny's for the Blue
Plate Special, before I watch Wheel.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Of Fortune Gotten every night Denny's every.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Night, every night, every night, and then on and then
on Saturday evenings we'll go to Applebee's or Olive Garden,
and then we go home and we'll watch reruns of
I Love Lucy or Bonanza, and then on Sunday we
keep trying to find the Ed Sullivan Show and we
can't find it.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Do you at least have like a Denny's credit card
rewards card, get them points?

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Oh, I have.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I have the Denny's master Card. Well, but Denny's Master Card.
I didn't even know that.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Here we are the Denny's American Express. I had the
Denny's Brandon a Platinum American Express card.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
For every ten breakfast plates to get one plate of pancakes.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Free, exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
You know Sunday you're gonna be old too, and you're
gonna be like, it's gonna be like four o'clock someday,
and you're gonna be like, damn, I could eat dinner
right now, and then you'll think of me new feel
guilty about all the times you made fun of me
because I might eat dinner at five or five thirty.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Every day.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
You're sixty seven breakfast plates away from being on the
Denny's charter.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
You know, we're getting my picture up there in the hallway,
you know, actually the manager of the month or something.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Customer of the month. Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't know the last time that I was at
a Denny's. I can tell you the last time I
was at a waffle house yesterday? Nope, almost twenty years ago. Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, Were you in a fight? Nope? Nope.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
We were in Florida hurricane season, but it was the
only thing open.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Waffle house stays open no matter what.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I felt completely safe because I had, you know, for
security detail, members of my detail with me, so didn't
make any difference.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Did you buy in breakfast? Did you buy in breakfast? Oh,
it's against the law. I can't do that. Wow yeah breakfast, Yeah, yep.
They get a per diem like ten dollars a day.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, I forget what it was then, but you know
it was more than enough. Now.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
My personal assistant was horrible about he would he would
pocket his per diem and then we's allowed a way
to get everybody else to buy just something a little
extra to build him something to eat, and then he
had pocket the per diem. I mean he's a fresh

(03:19):
you know, kid, fresh out of college.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Of course he was your assistant Clemson.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
You know, you know he's eagle scout and he was
just you know, he was a cheap kid working for
the government, working for you, working for me.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
What an honor, right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Something definitely something I could have. You know, I could
use you as a personal assistant.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Uh, you couldn't pay me enough.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
You'd have found it fascinating. You would have loved it.
We we went, We went all over the world. Travel
lots of travel. We went all over the world, met
a lot of really famous people, did a lot of
really bizarre, weird stuff, went to some really weird places.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You would have liked it.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
It could have done your social media coverage. It was today,
It was today.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
When did Twitter come in exist? I don't think Twitter
was even in existence.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
There early two thousands, I want to say. My guess
is two thousand and four. Let's see, so it may
have just started them start date Twitter, start date Google,
the Google Machine, live radio. Here we are on thousand
and six, two thousand. So just as I left the
Bush administration, has when Twitter started?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Probably for the best.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, you're probably right about yes, In fact, I know
you're right about that.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Oh I'll never be able to.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Let's talk for a little bit about a state that
never stops telling the rest of us how enlightened, progressive, parenthetically,
Marxist and compassionate. It is sounds like Colorado right now,
I'm talking about California.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't think, in fact.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
There are very few places that where they're moral superior
on their sleeves quite like California does. Gavin Newsom cannot
go a single week, probably not without a day, without
reminding all the rest of the country how deeply he
cares about equity and inclusion, and in fact, you've probably
heard him say it that California's diversity is our strength,

(05:19):
and that tackling inequality is both a moral and an
economic imperative. In fact, he thinks that a democracy. Looks around,
I don't see a democracy. I see a republic. But
Gavin Newsom said something to the effect that I'm paraphrasing
here that a democracy that fails to distribute its wealth

(05:40):
is doomed to failure. And I'm thinking, wait a minute,
a country that redistributes its wealth is itself doomed to failure,
because well, that's socialism and Marxism and communism. But that's California,
and he actually says stuff like that. Now, those are
really fine words to the useful idiots out there, but
they don't mean anything when the actual results from the

(06:02):
ground tell a very different story. Because when you look
at what's really going on in California, especially to African
Americans and Latinos, the record in California is not just disappointing,
it's actually devastating. The University of Texas did a study
that tracked how minorities are doing in California compared to

(06:23):
the rest of the country, and I think that's a
useful comparison to make, particularly considering that Gavin Newsom thinks
that with the slick hair, the connections to Nancy Pelosi,
that his attacks, you know, trying to pretend like he's
Donald Trump, all that crap. Somehow he thinks he's gonna
get the nomination to be the next president of the
United States.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
And indeed, he may.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Get the nomination, but I don't think the California I
think what's California goes under a microscope.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I don't think he's going to do it any good anyway.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
University of Texas used a range of metrics jobs, housing, education,
and overall econom mobility. Now, what do they mean by
economic mobility the ability of these particular groups of Americans,
African Americans, Latinos, how well are they able to move
up in California's economy. Guess what they found? An area

(07:21):
after area after area. California's minorities are falling behind economically.
So let's start with poverty. Two years ago, California's poverty
rate was about eleven percent. Today any guesses, yeah, it's
about nineteen percent.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
That's a huge jump.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
In fact, it's the largest increase in poverty in the
entire country. Now for Latinos, Now, remember the average poverty
rate in California two years ago, eleven percent, today's nineteen percent.
Latinos it's seventeen percent, and for African Americans it's fourteen percent.

(08:05):
Even Asian and white Californians are seeing significant poverty levels.
But this is happening in one of the wealthy est
states in the entire country. It's home to all of
those Silicon Valley billionaires, the Hollywood elites, and all the
sprawling real estate empires.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Unless, of course, you have to live.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You up to live in Pacific Palisades, and then you're
left with I think they built one new house, one
new home. How does all of this happen? Well, I
can tell you one thing. It's not by accident. It
is the direct results of policies that sound virtuous but
actually crush economic opportunity. Look at their climate policy. Newsom

(08:50):
in the California Assembly have turned climate change into, as
I call it, a religion.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
They are the they're.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Kind of like the California, I would say, is kind
of the Vatican of the Church of the climate activists,
and they've turned climate change into a political wedge. They've
written regulations so sweeping and so expensive that even California's
own Air Resources Board admits that it's going to mean

(09:19):
lower incomes for anybody making under one hundred thousand dollars
a year. Now, let that sink in one hundred thousand
dollars a year. I can't imagine being a family of
four trying to keep my nose above water, living in
California and only making one hundred thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I know that some people do it, but it's a
different lifestyle. But when they admit that they're going to
have lower incomes for anybody making less than one hundred
thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
That needs to that really.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
It needs to sink in because a state agency, newsom's
own bureaucrats are openly predicting that the climate rules that
they have imposed are going to hurt the middle class
and the working poor. And meanwhile, those that are making
more than one hundred thousand dollars a year, they're projected
to see their incomes increase.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now, how could that possibly be?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
If that sounds backwards, that's because it is backwards, and
it's not the only number that proves the point. California
has the highest electric rates in the continental United States,
except if you're a dumbass that lives in Hawaii, where
I think I think your rate is like, I forget
what it was, like, eighty five cents of kilowa hour

(10:45):
or something. I may be wrong about that, but it
is huge for dummies that live in Alaska but take
cruises in the Pacific all the time. I'm not quite
sure what the Alaska electric rates are, but I'm sure
they're pretty high too. The highest electric rate in the
continental of the United States, and they're still the increasing
since two thousand and eight, seventeen years ago, electricity costs

(11:08):
in California have jumped nearly eighty percent now nationwide, that's
a thirty percent increase nationwide, so they're more than double
what the nationwide average increase has been. Now, if you're
a wealthy coastal Californian who can buy solar panels, or
you can live in the temperate climates, maybe that's a nuisance.

(11:30):
But if you're a low income family overwhelmingly Latino, and
you live in the hotter inland counties, energy bills are
going to eat up about four percent of your budget.
That is four times the percentage paid by upper income Californians.
So the poorer you are, the more you're spending on
electricity than the wealthy people in the gigantic homes. So meanwhile,

(11:53):
companies that need affordable, abundant and reliable energy to survive,
you know, think manufacturers or data centers, all tech, the
high tech infrastructure, Well they're packing up and leaving the state.
They're headed to Texas, Arizona, the Midwest because the policies
there make sense and the lights actually stay on. California

(12:14):
has lost one third of its manufacturing jobs since nineteen
ninety and it's creating almost zero new industrial facilities. So
that means that there are fewer so called carbon economy jobs.
Member Biden promised all these carbon economy jobs. Oh, the
green new deals are going to create these new kinds
of jobs. Well apparently that doesn't exist. Truck drivers, warehouse workers,

(12:38):
production specialists, the kinds of jobs they have long supported
Latino families just disappearing like crazy. Oh there's some jobs
in the DEI offices, and there's some symbolic gestures going on.
But I don't think that DEI programs or symbolic gestures
pay the rent or by the groceries. It's their reality

(13:00):
that does. On housing, the pictures, no, it's not even better.
In some cases, it's actually worse. They have such extreme
land use in climate driven restrictions that is nearly impossible
to build affordable single family homes. So builders, in order

(13:20):
to do what they do for a living build homes,
are pushed toward really small, dense urban units, which is
great for a single tech worker in San Francisco. But
if you're a Latino family that values space, safety, schools,
and access to work, well sucks.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
To be you.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
But they don't care. And what amazes me is how
they literally pay lip service to minorities and then go
beg those minorities for their votes by claiming, oh, look
what we're doing for you. We get all these programs.
Oh you're poor, you're oh you're black, you're Latino, and
you're poor. Well, well, let's not talk about why you're poor. Instead,

(14:03):
let's talk about the programs we have to supposedly lift
you out of the poor. Accept those programs that lift
you out of the poor are actually going to teach
you and keep you tied to the California plantation. That's
how bad it is. They just want. You know, these

(14:24):
minorities want opportunity like every human being on the face
of the earth, but the policies in California block them
everywhere they turn. In Texas, do you know that almost
sixty percent of Hispanic families own their own homes? In California,
it barely breaks forty five percent. Same people, same apps,

(14:49):
aspirations of what's the difference. You have two states, two
parties controlling the policies, and you have two different governments.
There's the difference. Then there's education, which is probably the
most tragic part of the story. Latino students now make

(15:11):
up more than half of California's public school population, only
a third meet basic English standards and fewer than a quarter.
Fewer than twenty five percent meet the math standards. Fourth
graders in California, fourth graders perform worse than kids in Florida, Texas,

(15:34):
even worse than Mississippi, which everybody, you know, all the
snobs point too, Oh, Mississippi crop state in the entire country. Really,
maybe I look in the mirror before you start criticizing Mississippi,
which really was the punchline for bad schools among all states.
California ranks near the bottom ten for Latino degree attainment.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
So that's not equity.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
What they're doing is they're pushing blacks and Latinos into
a pipeline to poverty. So when you add all of
this up, you've got weak job creation and unaffordable housing situation,
crushing energy costs, a broken school system, and what you
see is a state claiming to stand with minorities, claiming
that oh, we know, we love you and we're going

(16:21):
to take care of you, while building a system that's
going to keep them trapped in that poverty. And that
is not hyperbole. Latinos and African Americans are leaving California
and growing numbers, following opportunities to places that actually help
them build well. And Colorado's not on that list. It's Texas, Arizona, Florida,

(16:42):
parts of the Midwest. And it's really tragic because, you know, California,
the Golden State, was once really truly the land of opportunity.
I always thought it to be wonderful to live in California.
Not so much anymore, no desire to whatsoever. But California
it has as the people, the geography, the technology, the creativity.

(17:03):
But instead of unleashing that potential, Gavin Newsom and their
political leadership has wrapped it in red tape, ideological favoritism,
and climate religion. So the bottom line is pretty easy
to look at if California really wanted to live up
to its own rhetoric, A California for All that's their
you know, that's what Gavin Newsom says, Oh, we're for

(17:26):
everybody ought to stop talking about equity, and that what
they really ought to do is start talking about opportunity,
and that would mean policies that allow the creation of jobs,
lower the cost of doing business, improve the schools, and
that this just doesn't mean just more money for schools
and then let working families buy homes. It means lifting

(17:50):
up people who do the work, not just those who
craft the slogans. But equity is built on words and policies.
Is not equity, it's theater. It's kabook, just like the
TSA and Californians, especially the one struggling the most, actually
deserve better than that. So if you want an example
of how bad things are, California is probably a prime example.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Morning from South Dakota.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
I was up at five o'clock this morning too, and
I just got done giving blood. But I was listening
to you, so all was good. Everyone have a great day.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
How much blood did you give? Are you okay? Did
they accept your blood? I don't think it's time for
me to give bloody. Do you regularly give blood? Hey,
rod Nah? Maybe once a year?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Max.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
So I found my mother enough for the whole family
to be accounted for. She's got the universal. She gives
like a milk.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, typo right, Yeah, I'm typo also, so I try
to give. I think you can only do it every
six weeks or eight weeks. I forget what it is,
but I do. I go in once.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
You know, they.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Always get mad at me because not mad, but I
can tell them I'm irritating them.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I go in, I give the blood. Where's my cookie?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
No, They're always like, you know, no, sit down, have
a snack, you know, make sure you okay and everything.
I'm like, listen one my anti aging doctor draws my blood,
you know, once every three months, and then I just
have my physical done. They draw blood for that. I'm
always getting blood. I just get to walk out. I

(19:26):
might grab, you know, a bag of peanuts or something
dry immediately. Yeah. Look, you get a little older, be careful.
What do you mean a little older? Getting a little older,
Like you need your blood ten hundreds you need your blood.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
You never know, I might get a little light headed.
Oh take five minutes. The only time I get lightheaders
when I see you, I just think.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Take five minutes. Take five minutes. You don't have to
think about anything. There's a relax there, eat a cookie,
relax relax. Vitolin or vitolin or how are they pronounced?
And and and.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Everybody's getting you know, like all the draculas are getting
their rug their blood sucked out. They're supposed to sit
in those nasty chairs that are uncomfortable to begin with with,
nasty thing, you know, And the problem is they don't
have the snacks that are just like you know, there's peanuts. Yeah,
they got the snack that has all the sugary crap
in it. Yeah, so you got to pick out the peanuts.

(20:25):
I don't have time for that.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Okay, I'll ask all the what all the goobers are thinking.
Are you weird with blood? Do you look? Do you
watch them do it?

Speaker 7 (20:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah? Yeah? Like my.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Primary care physician, I had like poma on my right
arm and I had them It got too big and
it was eating uncomfortable, so I had them cut it out.
And the nurses to this day are still fascinated. I
sat and watched the entire procedure. If you've ever dressed
out an elk or a deer, or got it, a fish,

(20:56):
what's the difference.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
True, I mean you're year of the elk, you're the fish.
That would be the difference.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Now they get up near my neck, you know, start
cutting or down you know, down below where the jewels are.
Then you might start paying attention. But it's just kind
of fascinating.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
You know, the scalpel and you know if you had
major surgery before.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
I had, Uh, well, I don't consider it major, but
I had a retinitaire.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'll the answer should be no.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
The question I was going to ask then, which was
going to be if you could have been awake to
watch it be done, would you have?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I asked?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I asked the surgeon if because they videotaped it, he
would not let me see the videotapes. Why because they
took my eye out?

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah, nothing with the eyes, don't no heart transplant, Yeah,
I'll watch.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
No, I did not. I do not want to see that.
In fact, now I've got to go back in January.
It's outpatient, but it's still generally anthesia where they repair
the retina. There's a film that for over it, and
he says, we need to take that off because it'll
help with the distortion in your left eye. It'll help
clear up that distortion. It says, how do you do that?

(22:09):
He said, imagine you know how takee gets stuck on
a surface and you kind of take your fingernail and
you kind of start peeling it off. MANU we go,
we go in there with this stool, and if we
start scraping that membrane off your retina, and I'm just like,
you know, you know how men get that kind of
funny feeling down and they're growing.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I got that feeling like.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Orange up as they do it too, Yes, no, thank you?

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
So no, I don't want to watch that. I don't
even want to think about that. I just needles and
tools in my eyebawl. No no no, no no no
no no no no no, no, not gonna app not
gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Into the bottomy after watching that.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
And then yesterday I go in from my pre surgery
checkup and it took an hour and twenty minutes. And
how much time do you think I actually spent the
surgeon seventeen Max, I'm guessing three yeah, three minutes. Max pictures,
same pictures they've take him before, same everything. And they

(23:10):
were running behind schedule, and I had to get back
here to do the weekend program because you know, I
get I'm gonna be in in Montana. I left that
secret out, didn't I. And he comes in and I'm
pacing the room. Now he's I can't say he's a
p one, but I know he listens to the podcast
because he asked me about the trip to New York

(23:31):
and stuff like that. So he may hear this later,
but it was like, Doc, really, you wonder why I
was pacing the room when you came in.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Because I was handsy. I needed to get out. I
had things to do. Drove me, batty. You're an important person.
You have places to be.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
It's almost Denny's time. The waffle house, waffle House. There's
a waffle house close to me. I'll take you some time.
You wanna go to waffle house, I'll take you to
waffle house. All way for my per diem. Okay, all right,
I heard per diem.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Good.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
That means I'll never have to pay up on this one. Actually,
now you probably do get a per Diem when you go,
don't you go on some of the road trips for.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I could take care? Yeah, so shut up and sit down. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Congressional Republicans, I don't even know whether when I start
the story or not. They're proposing to reform Obamacare by
steering tax credits to these high deductible plans with health
savings accounts purchased on the federal and state exchanges. And
while they're at it, what they really ought to do

(24:43):
is make use of tax credits on the federal health
insurance exchange legal in the first place, What do I
mean by that seventy percent of consumers that have insurance
today through an Obamacare marketplace, they used tax credits to
purchase health insurance on the federal exchange healthcare dot gov,

(25:07):
even as the text of that law limits those subsidies
to policies purchased quote through an exchange established by the state.
In twenty fifteen, the Court addressed this conflict, and the

(25:27):
conflict is it says that it limits subsidies to policies
that are purchased through an exchange established by the state. Well,
on a sixty three vote, the justices stretched the Affordable
Care Acts language reserving the use of tax credits to
exchanges established by the state, to allow subsidies on exchanges

(25:54):
set up by the states or the federal government. Sineteen
million Americans health insurance should not rest on a dubious ruling.
When that bruling came down, Justice Scalia offered an escathing
descent in which he said, quote words no longer have

(26:17):
meaning if an exchange that is not established by a
state is established by the state. Now, the defenders of
the Healthcare Act Obamacare claimed that the restriction on the
tax credits was merely a typo. Now, if that were
the case, Congress has would have been remarkably targeted in

(26:40):
its typos because Obamacare refers to exchanges established by the
state in several different places. So rewriting that term to
encompass federal exchanges in Obamacare, as the dissent points out,
doesn't make any sense. What's so way her And then

(27:01):
the majority opinion conceded as much, we didn't clarify that
its interpretation of state to mean state and federal and
applied only to the Obamacare tax credit provisions, and now
to the other parts of the law. They twisted themselves
into a pretzel. So considering that in other somersaults of
statutory interpretation, that's what Justice Scalia wrote, I love the language.

(27:27):
Heggested that the laws should be renamed Scotus Care Supreme
Court Care. Now the cabal has really they've regaled Chief
Justice Roberts, the author of the majority opinion in that case,
with kind of like a profile's encouraged treatment. The Supreme

(27:48):
Court saves Obamacare again, said The New York Times. Federal
subsidies survive and now we got this big fight going on.
We got the big fight going on over something that
was never in the law to begin with. The Obamacare
encouraged the formation of state exchanges by providing those enrollees

(28:08):
on those marketplaces with tax subsidies, and people in states
without exchanges would then have to shop for insurance without
subsidies on the federal exchange. And the justices in that
case in twenty fifteen didn't save Obamacare. They saved red
states from having to choose between establishing state exchanges or

(28:31):
turning blue. Florida and Texas both declined to establish state
exchanges and when they At the time of that twenty
fifteen decision, there were approximately, oh, I'd say a million,
two hundred and twenty thousand people in Florida that had
signed up for subsidized policies through the federal marketplace. And

(28:54):
that's almost twice as many as the number of voters
who provided then Marco Ruby senator market or Rubils margin
in his twenty sixteen reelection, and forty times as many
as they're roughly thirty two thousand voters that made up
Governor de Santus's razor thin gubernatorial victory in twenty eighteen.
We ought to tell members of Congress to stop the subsidies.

(29:19):
You don't comply with the law as it was written.
The Supreme Court, you know, made up language to you know,
so you wouldn't have to deal with it. And now
we shut down the government because of these subsidies, and
now Republicans are thinking, well, maybe we shouldn't eliminate them.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
What we ought to do is just kind of ease
out of them. He's out of them.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
You've had ten freaking years to do that, and you
haven't because once again, once a government program comes into place,
nobody's going to.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Get rid of it.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Wait, this is breaking news. Michael Gibbs Black he actually
has a heart. Really stunning.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, I don't need a bunch of jerk butts
giving me grief about not having a heart and giving blood.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
That talkback made you so happy, didn't it. It did,
basically calling you the grange, it just made you smile.
It only made you smile. What a dude. As you are.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Cable searching, I mean, while we're waiting, I just want
to hear that talk about one more time.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
This is breaking news. Michael gives blood. He actually has
a heart. Really stunning, very.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Stunning, stunning.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
So my point about how government programs never go away,
why do they never go away? In the discussion about
the subsidies for the Affordable Care Act Obamacare, Senator Patty
Murray Murray from Washington State said.

Speaker 8 (31:01):
As President, let me close with this, if Republicans truly
want to have a serious bipartisan conversation about health care,
we can do that.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Democrats are happy to do that.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
But there is a fire burning right now and a
lot of people are about to get burned if we
don't put it out. So the first step has to
be passing the bill Democrats have put forward simply extending
the tax credits and saving health care for millions of families.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
In the country. We could have talked about reforms earlier, and.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
Once we do this, we can still talk about reforms later.
But right now, we have to put this fire out,
and we have a bill that does that.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
I am hoping, a guest hope and against history, that
reason wins out and Republicans join us to pass this bill.
But I will say, if Republicans refuse to do the
right thing, that thing their own constituents are begging all
of us to do. They should know Democrats are not
going to walk away from this fight. I'm going to

(32:06):
continue to hold Republicans accountable, and more importantly, the American
people are going to hold Republicans accountable too, with their
voices and with their votes. Democrats will also keep sharing
a vision for how we do rebuild a stronger healthcare
system after this Republican wreckage, because as much as we

(32:26):
want to save these health tax credits, I think everyone
knows that.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Is a starting point. It is here we go. It's
the starting point for what is a bare minimum.

Speaker 8 (32:38):
We still need universal health care in America. We have
needed it for a very long time. Is what I've
always been fighting for. And whatever happens in the next
few days, I'm going to keep pushing for reforms that
make high quality healthcare it's actually affordable a reality for
every American.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Universal universal healthcare that he claims will make healthcare affordable
for every American. Socialized medicine has failed everywhere it's worked.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Hmm, that's their real agenda.