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December 17, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, why is this story being drug through all of
the conservative channels? Why isn't the White House talking about
this more? I mean, newscom would have zero champs of
being elected for much less seeing a candidate if this
got drugged through all the.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Media, its editorial omission. And remember yesterday's conversation about how
this cabal works. You don't how we distribute talking points,
how Democrats have a complete ecosystem for doing it. Part

(00:38):
of that ecosystem is what gets reported and not gets reported.
But so that's why you don't see anything other than
a quick blurb from twenty twenty on NBC News still
up on the website, you can still find it. We
accept that, Michael says, go here dot com, but there's

(00:59):
no follow up. Somebody you know puts puts the report
out because it's kind of hard to ignore the auditor's report.
And then nobody else picks it up. And so what
just you know so that NBC they c ya leave
c y eight. So that's all we need to do.

(01:19):
And why to your second point, which I think is
the more important point, why don't conservatives, libertarians.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Why why why why why don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Republicans they're tell you what Republicans are doing in Congress
right now?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
What are they doing?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I know that today I think the Jack Smith Special Prosecutor.
I think he's appearing before you the House of the
Senate Judiciary Committee. I don't know whether it's open or
behind closed doors. My guess is behind closed doors. So yeah,
they're doing that. But you you can't do more than
one thing at a time. I mean, the whether it's
the House or the Senate Judiciary Committee. It's not like

(01:59):
all four hundred and thirty five members of the House
or one hundred members of the Senate. So you got
you still have some people around it. You can do
other things. This is why I hate them. I truly
despise them because and I think I don't want to
spend too much time here because I want to get
to my next story. But the reason I get so

(02:22):
irate about this, whether it's you or it's you, it
doesn't make a difference to me any of you. I
know that people in this audience and friends of mine,
and there are people that I don't know who work
their tails off to do things the right way. They

(02:45):
pay their taxes, they take care of their families. They
may work at a job they don't like, but they
can't find anything else, so they tough it out and
they do it, and they do a good job. It's
not like they just slough off and then they pay
their tax bill. Oh most of them don't pay a

(03:05):
tax bill because they think it's somehow a savings account.
So they they get a refund and they're happy about it.
They've given the government their money they could have used
by grocery. They've given the government a free loan for
a while. Drives me crazy. Need to do better planning
than that. And then on top of that, they pay

(03:27):
an effective income tax rate that if that were cut
in half, or if we were able to eliminate you know,
we didn't always have an income tax. You realize that, right,
So rather than taxing our labor, if you want to
tax my consumption, that's fine, do it because that leads
me in control. If you tax my consumption, I get
to decide how much I consume. But when you tax

(03:50):
my labor, I don't have any choice because who determines
how much labor I put into working for iHeartMedia. iHeartMedia
contract with iHeart Media. And then the government swoops in
and says ah you're gonna pay him X. Well, we're
gonna take a certain portion of X. I have no
choice in the matter, and I can I can beg

(04:13):
plead and borrow, steal, do whatever I want to with
iHeart and say, why don't you, why don't you let
me form a trust and let me put you know,
pay pay the trust or pay you know, a c
corp or another. Because I'm an individual, They're not. They're
not gonna They're not gonna do that. They're gonna pay
the individual. So those people get their money taken away

(04:37):
from them and then it gets wasted. And maybe it's
a personality flaw, but it makes me angry on their behalf.
And it makes me really angry when I see the
coalition that I'm a part of, the so called Republican
Party not doing a damn thing about It just drives

(05:02):
me nuts. Oh did you just break time? When I
get back, I'm going to talk about the word democracy,
because I want to define the word democracy before I
get into the story.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Fun fact, Representative Eric Swalwell, who's running for California governor,
miss floor votes of any active member of the House.
He's even missed more floor votes than an Arizona Rep.
Who died in March. Who in the hades would vote
for the slim bag?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well, I would just suggest, Alexa, that you take a
go on to the House dot gov or Senate dot
gov website and just peruse through the current membership and
then ask yourself that question because you won't like the answer.

(05:56):
Crazy people, stupid people. I'm going to use the word democral,
but I want to define it because democracy encompasses a
broader meaning beyond pure direct democracy, because, as Aristotle and
Plato criticized, pure democracy is prone to mob rule. It's

(06:21):
unrestrained majority decisions that lead to anarchy. Pure direct democracy
is essentially you and I voting on every single law
and policy, as as done in ancient Athens, and that
fosters factionalism and demagoguery and tyranny of the majority, where

(06:41):
passions are easily overriding minority rights or even reason. James
Madison talked about that in Federalist Number ten, warning that
small scale direct systems like pure democracy or direct democracy
amplify factions that invade other people's rights. So I want
to think in terms of representative democracy or liberal democracy,

(07:06):
and liberal in the true sense of the word, not
the current political iteration of it. Modern representative democracy is
where citizens elect their officials to deliberate and legislate that
it filters the mob of impulses through deliberation. Our constitution
uses things like separation of powers, federalism, and of course

(07:27):
the electoral college to prevent majority overreach, and liberal democracy
in addition to representative democracy, because they're really where a
combination of both adds the rule of law, individual rights,
judicial checks, all of which is designed to protect minorities
from majority whims. You know, Toupeville is I just kind

(07:48):
of reminded me as I was thinking about this. Topeville
praised our mores and our institutions from mitigating all those
risks that I just described, distinguishing stable republics from chaotic
direct rule. So when I use the word democracy in
this segment, I'm talking about representative liberal democracy. But I

(08:12):
don't want to, you know, I want to try to
be a little more concise in my conversation. And the
reason for that is that democracy. The reason that democracy
has thrived in Western civilization and in societies that have
adopted Western norms is not because democratic institutions alone make

(08:35):
democracy work. It's the values that keep those institutions stable
over time. And historically we know that truly democratic societies
have been rare because the values that sustain those societies
are the results, like in this country, of very specific

(08:56):
historical and cultural conditions. It's not a fault setting for
society to be what we are. That's why we are.
Dare I say exceptional and exceptional doesn't mean that we're
better than anybody else. It means that we're unique. We're
unique because we've taken the concept of democracy made it

(09:19):
representative and liberal by applying rule of law, judicial systems,
the institutions that we have, the separation of powers in
the constitution. That's what makes us unique, and that's what
makes us exceptional. A Harvard professor once described Western societies
as weird.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's an acronym, not the word weird.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Western educated, industrialized, rich, and democratic weird. What he noted
was that Western values that we enjoy in this country
stood in sharp contrast with what has long been the
default throughout the history of mankind. So compared to most

(10:03):
of the world, Western individuals, like us tend to be
more individualistic.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
We're kind of more trusting of strangers.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
We tend to be a little more real oriented, and
we tend to be less bound by clan or tribe,
or for that matter, even extended family obligations. I often
think about the latter, because as my extended family has
grown and grown and grown, you know, cousins and nieces
and nephews and people all over the place, we've become

(10:33):
more extended, and I don't feel I mean, it's it's
not usual for someone to say this, but it's the truth.
I feel distant from a lot of cousins or nieces
or nephews because geographically we're dispersed and we don't, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Congregate that much anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, all those things I just described shape our institutions,
and that's important for the following reasons.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
I just got to call that Jeff Coo is closing
all schools because Excel is planning power outages for the wind.
Apparently it is acceptable now to just cut the power
when weather comes along instead of actually maintaining the infrastructure.
The worst thing is that no one and I've seen
seems to be even asking why this is even an option.
That grid should never be voluntarily shut off. This is
still the United States of America, right sure doesn't feel

(11:30):
like it.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Sometimes every day we've be done more and more like
a third world country, which fits writing with what I'm
talking about. So let's compare an individualistic society to a
collective of society. Everything I described about democracy, liberal democracy

(11:54):
and representative democracy, more individualistic, stronger rule of law, limits
on you know, on authority figures. Those those are individualistic societies.
A collectivist society tends to be very hierarchy hierarchical, it's
loyalty based, it's more accepting of really strong authority figures,

(12:19):
even dictatorial and tyrannical figures, and it creates conditions that
naturally lend themselves to authoritarian institutions.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
So where are we if there's a.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Spectrum over here, you know, if my left hand is
an individualistic society and my right palm over here is
a collective of society, are we moving in the wrong direction?
I think we are, And is on that basis of
us moving in the wrong direction that I want to

(12:50):
make the argument that mass immigration and democracy, as I'm
using it in this segment struggle to coexist because when
law large numbers of people arived from fundamentally different value systems,
there is little time, space room incentive for genuine assimilation,

(13:12):
and over time, if assimilation fails and then the numbers
starts to grow large enough, the institutions that once depended
upon shared values start to weaken or breakdown.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
And I think a great example.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Of that, which I think you can transfer to us
the United States, is the welfare system that exists in
most Western European countries. Those systems were built in high
trust societies where most people held individualistic values and they
aspired towards self reliance.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Seems contradictory, don't, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Because in that context there was little fear of widespread abuse,
and they certainly never anticipated a permanent dependency.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
So what happened?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
What happened to Western Europe? Those same countries have experienced
record levels of non European immigration in a very compact
and short period of time, and those new arrivals relied
heavily on welfare. So rather than integrating into the workforce

(14:26):
as promised, they added a strain to an already aging population.
And of course they overwhelmed the system, cloud and piven
the cloud Piven strategy. And when you overwhelm that system,
people clamor for it's just human nature to clamor for
somebody come in and take control. Somebody come in and

(14:47):
fix this. And in Europe, native workers are now expected.
They're just they just do. They just pay higher taxes
because they're supporting both a growing elderly population at the
same time that they're supporting a rapidly expanding welfare base.
Now you add into that mix an uptaking crime, ethnic tensions,

(15:12):
and an erosion of the common values.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
That is.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
What's the Christmas vacation scene where the old man says
something you couldn't hear a nitro glisten truck driving through
or a dump truck driving through a nitro glyssering factory
or something.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
That's what that's what it creates.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
It creates a dump truck driving through a nitro glyssening factory.
So that brings me to Australia and what happened there
over the weekend. Humanitarian immigrants are notorious for remaining welfare
dependent even after a decade of living in Australia, and

(15:55):
since the Labor Government took office, it's estimated that more
than fifty thous and immigrants who ended Australia were over
the age of sixty and in official Australian data, several
overseas born groups show higher per capita offending and contact
with the cops and higher imprisonment rates than native born

(16:17):
Australian citizens. I can only conclude from that that this
mass immigration has, at least for some cohorts and some
offense types, they've imported additional risk, an additional workload into
their policing, their courts, their prisons, and of course their
social welfare systems. I think this is not just a

(16:39):
social economic issue. I think it's a cultural issue. And
many immigrants come from more collective of societies. Where do
most Muslims come from? Oh, they come from kingdoms, they
come from the Middle East, or they come from some

(17:00):
third world crabhole country that's run somebody, some ten horned dictator.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
And when they come to.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
A new liberal representative democracy, what do you think their
priorities are? Because they come from a collective of society
where the priority for them is the klan, the extended family,
and the status within that group, it's not a contribution

(17:30):
to a broader national society. So if welfare benefits and
occasional work already provide a better standard of living than
they get they were getting from from where they came
back home. Then there what incentive is there to fully
integrate or to improve your work skills, or to upskill

(17:51):
or to adopt the new civic norms of the new
country that you're in, And with regarding crime, it's clearly
a lie or respect for the local culture. It's the
mentality of the tribe before the nation. It's group supremacy
over individual aspiration.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
So if that's the case, why aren't we asking an.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Honest question, which societies that have experienced mass immigration at
scale have actually become more cohesive or more trusting, or
more representative democratic or liberal democratic as a result of that.
Immigration Probably makes people uncomfortable even think about that, but

(18:38):
I think it's a necessary question, particularly given Islamist terror
attacks in both Australia and in the United States. We
won't recognize that, we should recognize that, I think to
some degree, maybe not as much as I would like.

(18:58):
But Trump has confirmed a significant expansion of his travel
policy just travel ban policy, excuse me, adding some new
jury restrictions for citizens from twenty additional countries. Now, the
new measures that he announced feature full bans on individuals
from Burkina, Faso, Bali, Niger, South Sudan, and even Syria,

(19:25):
anybody seeking to into this country from those countries. Now,
the administration is defending the moves as necessary to bolster
border security, pointing to all the widespread corruption, to fake documents,
the inconsistent criminal records in thealistic countries. In fact, the
inability of us of us to even communicate with their
systems because they don't even have systems with which we

(19:47):
could communicate to find out whether there's even a criminal record.
So that makes it increasingly challenging, if not completely ineffective,
to screen applicants coming to this country. Now, why the
decision all of a sudden bason everything I just said
up until this point about democracy and an individualist society

(20:12):
versus the collective of society.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I think the decision. I think that the.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Deadly shooting over the Thanksgiving period in which the Afghan
National Lacana wall as like just shot to national those
two National Guard soldiers near the White House, Sarah Bextram
who died from her injuries. Andrew Wolf I think is
still in critical condition. That guy arrived in the United
States amid former Biden's box twenty twenty one withdrawal from Kabble.

(20:41):
He entered a not guilty plead to murder assault charges.
But I think the decision is about that, It's about Australia,
and I think it's a strategic recognition that this slow,
but defendit even move from an individualistic, a liberal representative

(21:05):
democracy to a collective of society that again, now it's
we've turned off the bathwater, so the bathtub's not overflowing anymore.
But we still have some who are coming here from
those third World crap hole countries that will, even though

(21:26):
they might do it the right way, once they get here,
degrade the national culture. And I'm not picking on any
one individual, I am generalizing and saying that as a group.
When you think about those countries out and even I've

(21:48):
never been to Syria, but I've been to Burkina Faso
Malli not I've been to Niger, but I've been to
and I've been to all the Middle East countries save Iraq,
and i've been to Syria either. But what I witness
in those countries is slavery. Yes, if you don't think

(22:12):
that slavery exists in the Middle East. You have not
been to the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I know that many Indians from India travel to say
Abu Dabi or Dubai, or they travel to Kuwait and
they essentially become indentured servants. They become indentured servants because well,
their passports are taken away and they are assigned jobs
and they work for whatever wages that the kingdom is

(22:38):
willing to pay them or the business is willing to
pay them, and it's substandards. What you know, the natives
get for doing similar work, but they don't really do
similar work. So that collectivist society in Burkina, Faso, Mali,
Niger or South Sudan, a Syria, Arabia, the UAE cutter,

(23:05):
Kuwait Oman they come here even legitimately and they're overwhelmed
because they're not brought up in the culture that we
are brought up. So the shootings may be the excuse.
But I think that the update of Proclamation that applies

(23:28):
partial imbits to those fifteen countries by the way, also
angl And, Nigeria, Senegal and Zimbabwe.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I think it is a.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Recognition that if we are to stop this slow descent
into a collective of society. Then one way to do
that is for us to I don't want to say
close our borders, but to be a lot more discerning
about who it is that we welcome into this country,

(24:00):
whether that be on a tourist visa, a student visa,
someone that's on a pathway to get a green cart.
I really don't care. Now if you're coming from if
you're native Britain, a native brit coming here from somewhere
in the United Kingdom, I really don't care. You're probably
escaping what we're trying to avoid. And the same probably

(24:22):
for some Germans, or for some Frenchmen, or from Portuguese
or Spanish. Oh I get it. But Western Europe is suffering. Well,
let me rephrase that. What we saw Western Europe suffering from,
we're now seeing it kind of manifesting itself in Australia.

(24:44):
And if we don't pay attention to that manifestation and
recognize what is the source of that trouble in Australia,
then we're doomed to repeat what's already happened to Europe
and what is now happening in Australia. This failure to
recognize and to deal truthfully and honestly with what is

(25:07):
happening with mass immigration is ignorance, and I think it
is devastating to the country. I'll give you some more,
a little more, few more data points. Independent analysts are
starting to raise alarms about the involvement of foreigners in
serious crime in Spain. According to a new study by

(25:31):
the Demographic Observatory, those immigrants are quote significantly overrepresented in
the European Union. They are member state's most serious criminal stats.
When you look at their criminal stats, and I'm using
Spain as an example, you can look at the Demographic Observatory.
You can find it for other countries too. The headline

(25:55):
would simply be this, immigrants are committing five hundred percent
more rate and four hundred percent more murders than locals
in this western country.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
In Catalonia.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
The report notes that although immigrants account for only about
seventeen percent of the population, ninety one percent of convicted
rapists are immigrants.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
What more do you know?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
The data point across Spain's entire prison system, where foreign
nationals make up around thirty one percent, almost a third
of the inmates, The study says they commit five hundred
percent more rapes and four hundred and fourteen percent more
murders per capita than the Spanish citizens do now isolate
twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three, attempted murders nearly doubled,

(26:44):
while penetrative rape cases climbed one hundred and forty three
percent from over twenty two hundred to over fifty two hundred.
Illegal property occupation squatters is also growing sharply, with foreigners
accounting for more than fifty percent of the arrests in
those kinds of cases. Now, that is a figure that
far exceeds their share of the population. Now, this particular

(27:08):
report attributes those trends to imported crime. Where's the study
for this country? And of course the study goes on
to call for stricter immigration controls, additional law enforcement, additional
judicial resources, and of course tougher penalties. You kind of

(27:31):
look down into the study, you look at some of
the regional data. I think it reinforces those concerns. In Barcelona,
police figures for last year twenty twenty four show that
nearly eighty percent of arrests involving foreign nationals, particularly in theft,
violet robbery, drug traffic and sexual assault in the Bosque country,

(27:53):
people of foreign origin accounted for nearly two thirds of
the arrests so far, despite immigrants representing a very small
portion of the entire population. And then you can find
comparable patterns that have been reported elsewhere. In Europe and Austria,
police data from last year showed that foreign nationals made

(28:14):
up almost fifty percent forty six point eight percent of
all criminal suspects, even though they only account for about
twenty percent only about one fifth of the entire population.
In Germany, same thing. Foreigners are also overrepresented in crime stats.
In Berlin, excluding the per se immigration violations, forty four

(28:37):
percent are recorded crimes involved a foreign immigrant, a figure
that rises above fifty seven percent when you get to
places like Frankfurt. And notably, violent crime, including homicide, has
increased in a lot of German regions in recent years.
The United Kingdom, they've reported similar disparities. Police data indicated

(28:58):
that foreign nationals account for just share of sexual offense
charges in London compared with the overall per capita share
of the population. It's that kind of data that doesn't
get reported and then we don't internalize, and when we
don't internalize it and we hear the old troopes.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
This nation was built on immigrants. You can't compare.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
In fact, that is simply a falsehood because when people
came here, let's say, to build the colonies, they weren't immigrants.
They were people from the United Kingdom. They were people
from England, the mother country, who came here to settle.

(29:43):
So they're not technically immigrants. If you want to play
lawyer with the words, I'll happily play lawyer with the
words all day long. They weren't immigrants. Now, once the
colonies formed into the United States of America and we
adopted the constitution in seventeen eighty nine, then people who came,
you know, whether it was the Irish wave or it
was the German wave or whatever it was, Yes, they came.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
What's the difference.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
What did the Irish and the Germans and the Jews
and all the others that immigrated to this country.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
What did they do?

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, that stupid word that keeps getting in our way.
They assimilate.
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