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December 18, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Mike or Michael.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, I'm looking forward to another lesson Mediocre podcast this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Go get them.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Uh, mediocre is our middle name, less than less than mediocre? Okay,
all right, not more than mediocre, less than me. Well,
then you'll you'll be fully satisfied. So Dragon, you'll just
pull the show starts. Hey, hey, you want to hear
a talkback that I can't play on air? So I'm like, okay,
and I'm running back toward the control rooms.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Amazing how quickly you got up and ran in here?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well because because here, honestly, what I expected was I
hate talkback. I expected like some you know.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Uh, but I said who it was from?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
No, No, I didn't hear that. Oh okay, see I
didn't hear who was from? I just heard do you
want to hear a talkback? And you said, but you
got to come in here? So I just jump up
and walk in there. So I never heard of who
was from?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
So as I'm going there, I'm thinking, oh, this is
gonna be a doozy. It's gonna be like f bombs.
You know if you and you're just you know, you're
an idiot. Blah blahlah blah and oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
like the opposite. It's quite the opposite, and I'd love
to play it on air, but it's just it ain't
gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I'm just curious. The only thing I am curious about
was she driving?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, I'm assuming that either they were like driving and
they were at a stoplight together, or maybe he would
pull into a truck stop. It's our trucker friend. And
he observed some some a shenani's he absorbed. He observed

(01:39):
some self induced shenanigans, some solo shenanigans, some do it
by yourself shenanigans.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I think we got the message here, Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Of course, I don't know why he feels compelled to
leave a talk back when he says at the very beginning,
I know this is not going to get played a layer,
but I want you to hear this one.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
She's a passenger makes complete sense.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
But if she's driving, oh I think, oh I thought
she was driving. You think you should ask truckers sometime.
In fact, let's just ask the Texas.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Really dedicated in order to do that?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
While right, well, or you're just trying to Sometimes people
just try to show off to truckers. So here here's
my quest, my request for today. I'm not going to
read any of them al ayer, Well, I shouldn't. I
shouldn't say that who knows, who knows? I might. But
if you're a trucker, and by trucker, let's let's broaden
the definition a little bit. A box truck or eighteen

(02:46):
wheeler or anything that is elevated high enough that you
can see into the cars.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
On either side of you, Like an Amazon driver.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, like even, yeah, I think maybe an Amazon driver
might be high enough or ups driver uh FedEx. So yeah,
you might be high enough that you could see in
the cars as you're you know, stuck in traffic and
rush hour or something. We'd like to know what you
observe in the cars next to you that we might
that we might find prurian, we might find perverted, we

(03:16):
might find the warious interesting, we might find something that
you know, that would that would make that would make
it a challenge for me to describe on air without
getting in trouble what it is that you observed as
you're out and about on the highways and the byways
of this wonderful country.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
What a way to start a show one your Thursday.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
And then the other thing I wanted to talk about
before I get to the main thing I want to
talk about is did you survive yesterday? Dragon?

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Barely?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well? We had I noticed this morning. We had a
chair out in the in the yard off the deck.
But I came to this conclusion because once again, I
get up this morning and you know, I'm putting around,
and I step out on the deck trying to decide
whether I really want to walk the dogs this morning
or not because I can still hear the wind blowing.
Decided that, yeah, I'll put on a park and and

(04:09):
a you know, a cap and gloves and and and
I'll take the girls for a walk. One of them
didn't want to go, so it was just me and
one girl and the wind was blowing and it was cold.
He's going the well digger's ass because of the wind shill.
But so then I come back in and I sit down,
and I'm checking the email, and I'm like, you know,

(04:31):
let's let's go to you know, my favorite station, KdV R,
and let's see what the weather report is for the day.
And so they're giving the weather report. But then I
realized they're also, almost every story while I'm waiting to
hear the weather is the story of about the weather.
You know. Oh well look, at one point, what's the

(04:53):
what's the Hispanic guy's name? I can't remember his names?
He said, oh, he's got the nice classes. Anyway, he
has the reporting from Highway ninety three last night, and
they were replaying that again this morning, and his hair
like just you know, you've seen cartoons like where people
are getting like electrocuted or shot and their hair goes

(05:13):
straight up. His hair was just straight up, I mean
straight to the top of his head. And of course
it's long hair because he combs it back, but no,
it was like straight up. So it's like, you know,
a high now. That was freaking hilarious. And then they
got some guy I forget through this guy's name in
and he was out talking about he was he was
at some I don't know, a Christmas market or something,

(05:35):
and he said, well, no, this is this is going
to be a story that's not about the weather and
not about the wind. And then the camera pans around
and shows some booths and things that have been blown over,
and he goes, well, maybe we will talk about the weather.
So I came to this conclusion. What we witnessed and

(05:56):
went through yesterday establishes a new baseline. We will now
get almost regularly from Excel or Black Hills or whomever
your electric provider is, tri State, whomever. We will start
getting warnings anytime that the wind is going to exceed

(06:17):
forty miles an hour. I know that yesterday we had
guests and excess of one hundred according to Dave Frasier.
But the sustained winds at least when I checked the
weather last night at five point thirty or six one,
every time I was watching it sustained winds of forty
forty five miles an hour. But I thought to myself,
it doesn't make any difference. We've now established a new criteria.

(06:38):
Just like climate change. We've now established a new criteria,
a new baseline. That new baseline will be anytime there's
going to be you know, chinooks or anything else. Oh
wait till springtime gets here. When we got chinooks coming
down off the continental divide, holy moly, we won't know
what to do with ourselves.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
So there's that.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Here's what I really want to talk about before I
get on to other stories today. Corey Gains writes a
substack newsletter called the Colorado Accountability Project. I read it probably,
I can't say, with all due respect, Corey, I can't
say I read it every single day, but it is

(07:19):
in my bookmarks of substack articles, so it pops up
and I read it yesterday. I think this is dated yesterday. Yes,
it's dated. No, actually it's dated this morning. The headline
is this, Join me in emailing the Public Utilities Commission

(07:39):
about their natural gas rule this December updates on Colorado's
propose progressive tax. Wouldn't be a citizen journalist. I've got
an idea for you. He starts out with this. Corey writes,
I wanted to share with you another way you can
speak up to the PUC reference their clean Heat rule making.

(08:01):
In addition to speaking of at their January fourteenth meeting,
you can also send in an email prior to their
finalizing their clean Heat plan December twenty second, four days
from today. He says, I got the following from a

(08:22):
reader recently quoted with the links intact quote. Per the
Commission's usual process, any individual, stakeholder or organization may request
that the Commission reconsiderates decision on these rules. Such requests
are due by December twenty two. The Commission will consider
these requests and publicly deliberate at a January weekly meeting.

(08:47):
Anyone wishing to make public comment or request reconsideration of
the decision may do so at this time by emailing
and include the proceeding numbers, which is twenty five R
DASH zero three zero nine G as in golf in

(09:08):
the subject line. More information on how to submit public
comment can be found on the PUC website. And then
there's a hyperlink for that. This link was also in
the email, and there's another email, and then he talks
about if you are you know, here's another place to
send an email. Then he writes if you are not
able to send an email by the twenty second, don't worry.

(09:31):
You can still send them your thoughts after that, and
you can still attend their January fourteenth virtual meeting. If
he'd like to go to the meeting and offer comments,
then you'll find an info on that in my earlier
newsletter linked here another hyperlink. Corey writes that I think
I'm going to try for both. I wrote an email
which I sent to the email address above, and I

(09:53):
think I will also sign up to give comment at
their January meeting. To aid you, he says. I attached
a screenshot one a picture of what this rulemaking would
do from the Public Utility Commission site linked above, as
well as an open email I sent to the commissioners.
Let's go through it now before we go any further.

(10:15):
I've told you about a lot of hyperlinks. Is it
up yet? Dragon?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Seconds away from hitting published, Michael says, go here dot com.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
All right, we're going to republish Corey's article, or at
least a link to Corey's article at Michael says, go
here dot com. I rarely ask you to do something.
I'm asking you to do this. I want you to
go to Michael says, go here dot com. Give Dragon

(10:43):
a couple of minutes to publish, and then, of course
it has to propagate through the system.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
But se.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Michael says, go here dot.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Com one more time for those in the back.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
By, remember what was his name of Saturday, the original
Saturday Night Live, the black comedian Garrett Morris and he
would do They would have the news, they would do
the you know, the weekend update. Chevy Chase and Garrett
Morris would do it for the death, and he would

(11:16):
lean back, he would go the news tonight is So
for those of you in the back, that website is.
Michael says, go here dot com.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
One more time for the truck driver he's preoccupied.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well for him, Michael, Michael says, go go here, go
go here dot com.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
And he did text in said that they were driving
sixty miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh my gosh, doing that at sixty miles an hour?
How do you explain that to the officer?

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, you know, so she was driving, and so she
rear in somebody.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
So it'suldn't naturally going to be his or her fault.
So the question then becomes, well, ma'am, why weren't you
paying attention? Oh? I was paying attention, all right, I
wasn't paying attention to the guard in front of me.
That's the other thing I'm asking for. Three three one
zero three three three one zero three. If you're a trucker,
we want to know what air quote here interesting things

(12:28):
you may have seen while driving your route, because if
you if you can top the one that we have
to talk back from, there's not even any way to
like bleep out. There's just too much. You know that
We're not going to do that with at all. But
holy cow, Okay, here are the clean Heat plan requirements.

(12:55):
You know, you've kind of I have to say this
for the goobers to listen to this program.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Uh huh. I admire you to be totally ADHD. You
got totally ADHD. You've got to be able to keep
two or three thoughts in your mind at one at once,
because at any moment I'm jumping, I'm like the little
you know, I'm like the little bouncing ball just kind
of It's like, I'm like, you know, a pinball machine
is just kind of bouncing around from topic to topic.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Here are the utilities and customers that are impacted by
this rule making. It applies to three investor owned gas
utilities that most Energy, Black Hills, and Excel. If a
customer does not take natural guess service from these three utilities,
there is no impact. Well who else is there? How
will this be achieved? Utilities can propose to meet the
clean heat targets using combinations of energy efficiency, electrification, recovered

(13:49):
methane what a joke, green hydrogen, thermal energy, and pyrolysis
of tires. Huh Okay, I'm sorry, I didn't. Oh, I can't.
Can I not highlight this? Pyrolysis of tires? Is that

(14:10):
like a pyromaniac to something? What is?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't think it's burning?

Speaker 6 (14:16):
So.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Hyrolysis of tires is a thermal process that heats shredded
tires in an oxygen free environment, breaking them down into
valuable products like fuel, oil, carbon, black char, steel, and gas,
offering a sustainable way to manage waste tires by turning
im into resources for new tires, fuel, or asphalt, while

(14:39):
providing environmental benefits over incineration and reducing landfill burdens. Burden
challenges include, oh, high setup costs, managing the sulfur content
in the oil, and ensuring economic viability through subsidies or
high product value. In other words, you can also according
to the PUC, Oh, my god, PUC, you are the

(15:00):
dumbest people in the haasally Earth. Try me nuts of
the stupid stuff that you're doing pyrolysis of tires. Customers
may voluntarily participate in these plans by taking advantage of rebates,
tax money and incentives tax money to adopt electric heat

(15:20):
pumps or complete energy efficiency upgrades in their homes and businesses.
Here are their targets, a four percent reduction by twenty
twenty five, a twenty two percent reduction by twenty thirty,
a forty one percent reduction by twenty thirty five, and
future targets for twenty forty, twenty forty five and twenty
fifty will be set no later than December one, twenty
thirty two. Now recovered mething, you may continue to be

(15:41):
used to achieve the target. No maximum percentage set in rule,
but you must consult with the call of Department of
Health and Environment. You must consider whether plans achieve reduction
to the lowest reasonable cost and rate impact, taking into
account customer bills that may be impacted from your investments.
Impacts to be considered fuel costs, non fuel direct investment,
associated clean heat plan, gas infrastructure costs, gas system operation costs.

(16:05):
A cost test that includes the social cost, the social
costs of carbon and methane, any of the relevant cost
and benefits.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
This is.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
We're stupid, colrad is really stupid. We we have surpassed California,
New York, Illinois, Massachusetts in stupidity or Washington and Oregon too.
You know yesterday, I know that Ross had Polus on

(16:40):
and they were talking about you know, Trump made some
comment about about a goofball Jared polus is, and Police's
response was, you can find you can find my comment
over on x because Koa put up a uh an
ex post about you know, the government. Governor said, you
know that the that the president really ought to focus on,
you know, affordability. That's coming out of the governor of

(17:02):
the state of Colorado's mouth telling Trump that he had
to focus on affordability. Hey, Jared, I got an idea.
Why don't you quit worried about what the president says
about you. You're a big boy. Come on, you can
withstand a little criticism. Come on, come on, and why
don't you focus your butt on affordability? And it's break time.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon. This is your Western Nebraska.
Goover here. Well, we got about sixty mile an hour
wind gusts out here. I've said it before, I'll say
it again. I wish Colorado would quit sending us all
of their crap. Well, the wind sucks out in Nebraska,
but man, does it blow in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Have a great day.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
So the President gave a speech last night, and I
didn't watch any of it none. We were off watching.
I didn't really like him. Mesine individual Mark Ruffalo's got
some series on called task It's about some FBI task force.

(18:08):
It's pretty interesting, and we were engrossed in that. And
I saw that it was nine Eastern and that I mean,
and you know, I can watched the clips today. So
indeed I did watch the clips and realized that, oh yeah,
he has a few interesting things to say. Let's see.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
A major factor in driving up housing costs was the
colossal border invasion.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
We have never been invaded.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
This is the worst thing that Frankly, in my opinion,
the worst thing that the Biden administration did to our
country is the invasion at the border. The last administration
and their allies in Congress brought in millions and millions
of migrants and gave them taxpayer funded housing, while your
rent and housing costs skyrocketed. Over sixty percent of growth

(18:57):
and the rental market came from foreign migrants.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
At the same time, illegal.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Aliens stole American jobs and flooded emergency rooms, getting free
health care and education paid for by you, the American taxpayer.
They also increased the cost of law enforcement by numbers
so high that they are not even to be mentioned.
For the first time in fifty years, we are now
seeing reverse migration, as migrants go back home, leaving more

(19:24):
housing and more jobs for Americans. In the year before
my election, all net creation of jobs was going to
foreign migrants. Since I took office, one hundred percent of
all net job creation has gone to American born citizens,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
It was a campaign rally, he talked about the military.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Next year, you will also see the results of the largest.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Tax Actually, this is the one about the tax refunds.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Here you will see the results of the largest tax
cuts in American history that were really accomplished through our great, big,
beautiful bill, perhaps the most sweeping legislation.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Ever passed in Congress.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
We wrapped twelve different bills up into one beautiful bill
that includes no tax on tips, no tax on overtime,
and no tax on Social Security for our great seniors.
Under these cuts, many families will be saving between eleven
thousand and twenty thousand dollars a year, and next spring

(20:35):
is projected to be the largest tax refund season.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Of all time.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I'm I'm look, don't get me wrong, I'm for tax
cuts anywhere I can get tax cuts. But what I'm
really tired of is the idea that the just the
blanket phrase that there is no tax on tips because
that's technically not true, or no tax on Social Security

(21:00):
because that is technically not true. And then, of course
we've got the what they're calling the Warrior Dividend.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Along with the just passed one big beautiful bill. Tonight,
I am also proud to announce that more than one thousand,
four hundred fifty thousand, think of this, one million, four
hundred and fifty thousand military service members will receive a
special we call Warrior dividend before Christmas, a Warrior dividend

(21:32):
in honor of our nations founding in seventeen seventy six.
We are sending every soldier one thousand, seven hundred and
seventy six dollars.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Think of that, and the checks are already on the way.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Nobody understood that one until about thirty minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
We made a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
More money along with each chuck drawn. The way the
check is in the mail. It's a little perspective as
a mighty US armada, you know, kind of Bob's round
in the Caribbean off the shores of Venezuela. Trump comes
on last night and addresses the nation from the diplomatic

(22:13):
reception room. I thought it was gonna be from the
Oval office, but it was from the diplomatic reception room.
It's quite frankly doing doing oval office addresses I think
are for much more serious matters. This was not like,
you know, hey, listen, we've just been attacked by you know,
the Japanese or the Chinese or whomever. So they did

(22:35):
it in the diplomatic reception room, which I think is
probably more appropriate. And then, with what can only be
described as Donald Trump's characteristic delicacy and understatement, he then
outlined all the accomplishments of the first eleven months that
he has had in office so far, and he kind

(22:56):
of lightly criticized his pre assessor, just ever so slightly.
You really had to listen for it. And then he
was very cautious and apinting about what the future held
in history for the United States of America, particularly in
the two hundred and fiftieth birthday. What would that be
the semi quin semi quin centennial. I think it is,

(23:21):
I know it thout that's not at all. How he
presented it yesterday. You probably want to dispute, you know,
some of my emphasis in my assessment of what his
tone was. But let's just say that the president's short
speech was vintage Trump hyperbolic. Of course, it was hyperbolic,
over the top, duh, But in essence one hundred percent true.

(23:45):
The simple truth is that this whirlwind that Donald Trump
has accomplished, he really has accomplished more in eleven months
than a lot of presidents achieved in four let alone,
or you know, even eight years. What was Trump elected
to do? Well, first and foremost, as he points out,
probably the you know, the worst thing of all. He

(24:06):
was elected, not the worst thing of all, but because
of the invasion. It was to seal the southern border,
and I don't think we can argue that he has
actually done that. And he was elected to remove illegal
aliens from the country. Now, I noticed that one thing
that as I listened to the clips this morning, he
kept using the term migrant, And that does bug me

(24:27):
because he's slipping into that which I know I do
occasionally myself, because it's just few syllables, you know, the
when you're trying to be concise in your language and
you're trying to be you know, succinct. You know, illegal
aliens versus migrant is you know, much more efficient. But

(24:47):
I think it's technically wrong. What I find interesting about
the removal of illegal aliens from the country is everybody
screamed at hard, that's what we wanted, and then they
start doing it, and then everybody's like, oh, I think
it's because of Americans. But we've become too soft. We
constantly were barraged about violence.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
We're barra you know. All I heard.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
About driving in this morning was about Brown University and oh,
you know it's been five days, six day, however many
days it's been. Trust me, I don't care. I don't count.
It's not that I don't care about the shooting. It's
not that I don't care about the people that were killed.
Is that I don't care about the incessant news coverage
of it. It's just constant, constant, constant. And I think

(25:35):
that while we are fascinated by violence, when we actually
see what you is technically violence. You know, when you
grab somebody and you throw them to the ground and
you handcuff them and you throw them back in the
back of a paddy wagon to haul them off to
be deported. You could call that violence. And now people
are seeing it and they're like, ooh, I'm not sure
I like that.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon. I typically listen to you guys.
It's on ninety four point one FM instead of eight
fifty AM, but it's just been pure static since your
show yesterday. Did the FM station get taken off the
air with the power outage? It's just kind of bad.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I assume it probably did. Guess that it's one hundred
percent correct. The FM transmitter is located in the zone
where Xcel turned off the power.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, is the tower still standing? Do we know?

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Pretty sure? Pretty sure?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
You never know? Just Dominic up there hanging on.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Dylan, the Dylan.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
From what I understand, Dylan's hanging up there, hanging from
the wires, poor Dylan. So Trump's speech last night really
was just a litany of his accomplishments. And I'm sure
that some of you want to dispute, you know, my
joking around about you know, he was he was delicate,
and he barely you know, criticized his predecessor blah blah

(26:57):
blah blah. But Paul was troubled, like to to do.
He was elected to seal the border and start turning
the economy around, get rid of the green energy scam,
and all of that is quickly becoming true. Above all,
he was elected to restore confidence in and enthusiasm about
this country, and that current of cultural self confidence I

(27:23):
think is going to be absolutely central if you're if
we're going to fulfill the imperative of make America great again.
So this inventory was probably a proper thing to do. Now,
is he a Ronald Reagu when it comes to delivering speeches.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
No.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Did he appear at times to me anyway, to be
angry as I listened to watch the clips. Yeah, but
that's that's kind of vintage Trump. But his litany of
accomplishments and promises for the future are actually in line
with what he and his team have managed to deliver
over the past eleven months, and that is an extraordinary

(28:01):
series of accomplishments on the economy and energy and in
cultural self confidence generally. Donald Trump has very much taken
to heart the wisdom contained in the Gospel parable about
not hiding your light under a bushel When he says
that we have achieved more than anybody could ever imagine
everybody gets old ooh. But the truth is that Trump

(28:25):
is pretty much stating the truth because you look back
over the past. Let's see, let me let me count here,
so four years that let's let's take out Trump one
point oh, because Trump one point oh truly didn't accomplish
all that much, because he was too busy litigating and
too busy fighting off impeachments to really get a lot done,

(28:47):
although he did get some stuff done. I don't want
to minimize. I just want to say, let's take that
out of the equation. You take it out of the equation.
Do you look at what my old boss did for
eight years? Oh, we created that monstrosity called homeland Security. Yeah,
that was wonderful, wasn't it. Oh we did the Medicare

(29:10):
drug program. You know, that's costing us a boatload and
not really saving us any money either. And then you
go to Obama and now we've got Obamacare, which is
you know, oh, keep your doctor, like your doctor, keep
your doctor. Oh, a family will pay what was it,
twelve hundred and fifteen hundred dollars a year, you know
for your insurance premium. Well that's that's a big joke.
And now we're faced with a big stupid political battle

(29:33):
over whether not to continue those subsidies. And then Biden,
Biden just went down the southern border. That took you know,
took some wirecutters, just opened the gates and said, come
on down, you're the next winner for you know, take
take the textpayer's money. And then you look at what
Trump's done in terms of all of you know, trying

(29:54):
to reverse those things, trying to fix those things, what
he's done with the economy, you know, the let me
pull up today's Wall Street Journal, because the headline earlier
today on the Wall Street Journal was pretty fascinating. Inflation
eased to two point seven percent in a report November risis,
No November rising prices cooled from a three percent game

(30:15):
in September. And you dig down on the story and
you realize that that inflation number is actually lower than
economists expected. So yes, I think we are on the
right trajectory where just not everybody is feeling it yet.
And I know if you look at the Drudge Report
or you read you know, CNBC or MSNB, whatever it

(30:36):
is now, you're going to get a really negative attitude. Well,
I just refuse to do that.
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