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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two steps or one step atwards. So real all communism
and sulcalis.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, it is one step forward, two steps back. And
so I think you'll yeah, I think you'll appreciate. Although
you're going to pay attention, which is for goopers that have.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
All have ADHD. It's going to be very, very difficult.
Can you get it done in under two and a
half minutes? We're screwde Yeah, exactly, Okay, how's that?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Actually, so I did something yesterday, and which is why
you don't have what you asked for in the email
this morning, mister producer, because I didn't have time. I've
been reading I can't you know, you got you know
that you have a pathetic life when you have flashbacks

(00:52):
to your time in Washington, d C. As the undersecretary,
and it's both good and bad. And by the way,
so Ryan out there, you know Ry Ryan's apparently doing
the morning show, you know, over there on the on
the other side of the tracks right now. And he
walks that and he goes, look, good morning, I suppose
mister Brown or something. And I said, oh, good morning,
how you doing supershero or something? And he goes, I'm

(01:14):
just your worst nightmare. And I said, oh, and I said,
I need to disappoint you, but considering my background, you're
nowhere near my worst nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
You're not even on a radio, even on the radar buckle.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
If you want to become my worst nightmare, you got
to get your ass in gear and you got to
get to work.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
And I can give you some pointers. I mean I can.
I can point you to some people who.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
All believe and are just undegree my worst nightmare, and
you can and you can try to, you know, rise
to that level, but it's not worth it because you'll
get up there and realize that I'm you may be
my worst nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
But then you realize I don't give a rat's ass.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
So so it's like, why do it? I sat down
yesterday after I finished the program because I talked about
this new national security strategy and how it was an
amazing it was an amazing documenting though I'd only read
stories about it, and so I gave you a few

(02:20):
stories about it yesterday. But now I'm going to walk
through it itself, because holy cow, let me preface it
by saying this.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
There is if you're a Christian, you know that God doesn't.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Always choose perfect people to fulfill his will, and some
of the most flawed individuals in Christian history and in
world history end up becoming some of the most influential,
positively influential people in all of humanity. And I'm not saying,

(03:02):
and I'm certainly not saying that Donald Trump is about
to become one of the most influential persons ever in
human history. But this document, the National Security Strategy, you
can find it. It's a it's a white House dot gov.
Is made in November, this November twenty twenty five, that
came out into the month and it's on there. It's

(03:25):
in PDF form and you can download it. I'll get
it up at Michael says, go here, Yeah, Dragon will
give it up. He'll Dragon, You'll do something right. But
what I realized was again based on my experience in Washington,
d C. Is that there was there was a meeting
and it was either during the transition, you know, back
back prior to January twentieth of twenty twenty five, or

(03:49):
it was something that once he had his national security
team and some of his cabinet members in place, or
maybe it was a White House group, but they got
together and the President sat down and said something to
the effect, these are my goals, and these are my
short term goals, my medium term goals, and my long

(04:10):
term goals. And so here is my strategy. Here's what
I want to accomplish. Now you've got to figure out
how we go about doing this. So they came up
with this national security strategy, and I'm telling you it
is not another Washington white paper.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
It is almost like a.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Formal declaration that this country has finished sacrificing our sovereignty,
that we're no longer going to sacrifice our prosperity or
our sons and our daughters for an ideological project of
some sort of global management that may never put American
people first.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's a course correction, if you will, and.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's a course correction that goes back to something that
our founders would recognize. It's simply a strong, independent republic
that deals with with the world as it is. We
defend our own borders, we protect our own workers, and
we refuse to apologize for putting Americans first. So we've

(05:14):
gone from global management. I've got a couple of categories here.
I wrote down, from global management to national interest. What
we should want. I may skip through. I've got a
couple of paragraphs on the principles of America, first the
end of mass migration era, but then I get to

(05:35):
some really interesting stuff like liberty as a national security interest.
We'll delve into that, and then ending atlas what I
mean by that, burden sharing and burden shifting. I've got
economic nationalism as part of the Grand strategy, and the

(05:57):
Western Hemisphere. We casually mentioned the Monroe Doctrine and how
we got the a fassembly of that in the Trump
Doctrine or the Trump Corollary. I've got it marked down
as the Trump Corollary. I've got a section on China
and the Indo Pacific as being competition without any illusions

(06:18):
about what's really going on there. In Europe, we want stability,
but we don't want the self erasure.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
That I talked about yesterday.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
We're going to cover that in the Middle East and Africa,
no more forever wars, and what this total realignment means.
So I'm going to try to get through these in
just in one hour. But think about historically, for thirty
years after the Cold War, both Republicans and Democrats convinced
themselves that it was our job to be the permanent

(06:49):
dominating force in the of the entire world. They and
I think we should be the dominant influence in the world.
Domination is different from influence. You can you can dominate
through influence, you can dominate through military strength, you can
dominate through economic strength, or you can dominate through influence.

(07:13):
And I think that's what Trump's trying to do here.
So if you go back to you know, you go
back to the end of the Cold War, and both
Republicans and Democrats just kept doing what they just kept
writing all the blank checks for all the foreign wars,
they into all those free trade deals with just eviscerated manufacturing.
I remember yesterday at some point in our conversation, I

(07:35):
just casually mentioned about, we don't know, or maybe this
was a conversation with somebody at lunch, I said, we
just don't make anything anymore. Now, I know that we
still make some things, and we still invent a lot,
and we still design a lot of things, but when
it comes to actually making that widget, we outsourced that.
And that's because of all the free trade deals. We
have subsumed ourselves to all these global institutions like the

(07:58):
World's Health Organization, or the World Trade Organization or the
United Nations, and we and those people, those those people
in the cabal, those people in the ruling elite of
both the Republicans and the Democrats, somehow thought that that
was going to bring prosperity and peace. Well, we've had

(08:20):
periods of prosperity and recession and everything, as we normally
have economic cycles. But if you think we've truly had
prosperity like the booming twenties or something, we really haven't
had that, and we certainly haven't had peace. It seems
like from my entire lifetime anyway, there's always been a
war going on somewhere somewhere somehow, whether those whether you

(08:41):
think they're worthwhile or not, it's immaterial. We've been spending
a lot of blood and treasure on lures, and of
course we've allowed let's go back. I made a note
here that says this was a missy. This was a
massive miscalculation because all out our industry, it flooded our

(09:02):
communities with drugs and cheap labor, and it stretched the
military thin while the borders were left wide open. So
what does this new document do? What does it do?
It just tears up that script entirely. It says, very
plainly that the affairs of other countries matter to us
only when it directly touches our vital interest. So what

(09:23):
would I what would I classify as our vital interests? Well,
obviously the safety of American citizens, the complete and total
independence of this republic, the strength of our economy and
our industry. And this is pretty broad, but I think
it's important. I know some of you disagree with me
when I when I criticize or I worry about what's

(09:44):
going on in Europe, and you say, who gives orrats
us about Europe? Well, I do, because Europe is part
of Western civilization.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It may already be gone.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I don't know whether it can be saved or not,
but it is the survival of Western civilization itself, and
I don't want us to be the loan embodiment of
Western civilization in the entire world. That is what I
just described. That is truly America first, in its purest form.

(10:17):
It's a focused definition of the national interest, and it
is a refusal to pretend that every global problem is
ours to solve. So what does that strategy say about what,
at least as far as our political leadership goes the
Trump administration. What does it say about what America should want?

(10:40):
Here's what I've written. First, A safe and sovereign homeland
that actually controls who comes in and who does not.
This secures its borders against Cartel's terrorists and mass migration,
mass immigration, and they refuse us to let international bureaucrats
or all these NGOs dictate our immigration policies or for
that matter, our foreign policy. Listening to a podcast late

(11:02):
last night because I couldn't sleep because I was all
wound up about this. Have you heard anything recently about
Gaza or or Amas Well in this podcast that you
know I told you there's this one particular international podcast
that I listened to. It it's really based on oh

(11:25):
dang it, having a brain fart here the the the
group that's called the Defensive Democracy, I forget the full
name of it. They have a journal on there called
the Long War Journal, and it's based upon that. Bill
Rossio Uh and Master Conye and a bunch of others

(11:46):
are are part of that group. When you think about
Hamas has be law and it seems quiet in the
Middle Eague, according to them, it's really not because the NGOs,
particularly the United Nations Refugee Organization UNRA, is back in

(12:13):
operation again and is back funding people in the Gaza strip.
And by people, I don't mean Gozans, I mean has
Belaw and Hamas. And while the Lebanese government is absolutely faltering,
the Iranians are still they While we may have at

(12:34):
least sat back their nuclear weapons program, they still have
their oil, they still have some of their wealth and
they're still distributing that to has Belaw on the northern
part of Israel, on the southern border of Lebanon, and
they're fundeling, still funneling the Houthis. So all of this

(12:55):
is still percolating, allowing all of them to rearm and
reorder and eyes while we sit back all dumb, fat
and happy and think things are going okay, but in
fact they're really not. So back to what it means,
what should be we be wanting and what does this
national strategy say that we should be wanting? And the
second part is would be I wrote a resilient infrastructure

(13:18):
and economy, energy manufacturing technology, all which should be strong
enough to withstand pandemics, wars, disasters, and economic coercion from
any adversary. In other words, we should not capitulate. We
should not allow communists China, for example, to be manufacturing
all of our pharmaceuticals or anything else. We going to

(13:41):
start moving this back. This document calls for the world's
most capable military and nuclear deterrent back by a real
missile defense architecture, the Golden Dome that Trump's talked about,
so that no foreign power could ever blackmail us or
threat in our cities. The document insists that our economic

(14:03):
power remain unmatched, supply chains cannot be held hostage, an
industrial base that is second to none, and an energy
sector that leads the world because of American oil, gas
and nuclear, not because we bowed the climate crusades. That's
pretty damn good, you know those crusades that were written
in DeVos and written in you know, a top thirty

(14:26):
down in Blim, Brazil.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
No.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And then this document ties all of this something that
the left and I would even include rhinos in this
that refuse to talk about, and that is the spiritual,
the cultural, and the family strength of the American people
as a prerequisite for long term security. This document basically

(14:55):
says we're going to return to not to I mean
you can't really categorize it as isolationism, and you can't
categorize it as we're going to withdraw as the world's policemen,
because we still will, but just in a different way.
We will isolate ourselves, but we won't just look inward.
We will still we recognize that the world's economy has

(15:18):
become globalized. For example, well, we talk an awful lot
about rare earth minerals and how we can't let communist
China get a monopoly on those, whether that be in
South America or Africa or anywhere else. It means that
we need to get into business with South America and

(15:40):
Africa and places so that we have access to those
rare earth minerals. But what most of the left won't
talk about is this that many of those rare earth
minerals are available in this country, but we have so
overregulated ourselves that we don't allow ourselves to even access
the rare earth minerals that we need in this country.

(16:02):
And we've got to stop that, which is a which
is a good point to kind of jump off and
say that one of the American for America first principles
is that we have to learn that we have overregulated
ourselves to the point that we are destroying ourselves from
within and so by deregulating, and you know, and I'm

(16:25):
using that term very very broadly, because I'm not advocating
that we just completely deregulate everything, but I do believe
that we've so overregulated ourselves that many of the things
that we need for a robust economy or right before
our eyes, but we can't see them because there are
thousands and thousands of pages of regulations and lawsuits and

(16:46):
litigation and everything else in all the Sierra Club and
everybody that prevents us from accessing those things that we
really need to produce a really vibrant economy. So this
return to peace through strength is done in a very
serious way, because it makes clear that the road to

(17:09):
peace is a booming and strong American economy, stronger than
any other economy, a greater GDP than any you know,
and we're already apartments. We are generally already the world's
largest and strongest economy. But what we're not recognizing is
that on the fringes, on the periphery of that economy,
we're beginning to whit little way. And Trump is saying

(17:30):
here we're going to reverse that, and we're not gonna
do that anymore. And the very first step was the
end of the era of mass immigration.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Ran I know I live in your head, buddy.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Tell me about the dream you had last night.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
O god.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Guba number forty four one. Michael, you're talking about a
realignment of America. That's exactly what it is. You mentioned
a document of some sort. What does that document and
where can we find it? It is the National Strategic
I forget.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
The name of it now.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
That the National Strategic something I don't have in front
of me. But Dragon is on the White House website.
But Dragons put it up at Michael says go here
dot com.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Michaels says, go here, got co. Yeah, that's exactly right, sweetheart.
That's where it is.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Forty five nineteen. You want to know what are you reading?
The National Security Strategy? That's what it is, the National
Security Strategy, and you can find it at Michael says
go here dot com. It may take a little while
to propagate through the system, but Dragon's got it posted
up there.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Michael says, go here, got co.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
And I really, I sincerely would encourage you, even if
you don't read a word for word to go through
because you'll recognize. I mean, I think this is the
kind of thing that you read. This is like reading
something that is one reaffirming what you already believe. So
I know there's confirmation bias in and I completely understand
understand that, But it's the things that fly over country.

(19:15):
You and I as just ordinary Americans, have been saying
for decades, and now here is whether whether it's Trump,
because look, the president of the United States of America. Look,
you know, I've worked up close and personal with President Bush,
so I know kind of how they operate. And well,

(19:37):
Trump and Bush are obviously entirely different, the apparatus and.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
The system remains pretty much the same.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
So I'm convinced that Trump said, look, this is what
I want to accomplish. This is the path that I
want us to go down. And I think he learned
from Trump one point zero that personnel is policy. So
he made sure this time that he put the kind
of people in place, either the one that required Senate confirmation,

(20:06):
like the cabinet secretaries or the undersecretaries, or the White
House staff, which does not require Senate confirmation, and he
put the kind of people together that understood what his
vision was, and they were able to articulate that vision
into a strategy that now guides every single decision that

(20:29):
is made by the White House and all the cabinets
and the departments and the agencies. They are guided by
this document.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
That's how you lead.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Now, before I go into some of the elements of
what's in this declaration, I want you to understand that
the one thing I'm still not happy about are the
Republicans in the House and the Senate. They need to
get off their butts and they need to reach this
document too, and then they need to sit down in

(21:03):
their caucus and they need to say to themselves, look,
this is where the President wants to take us. Now,
maybe all of us don't agree with every single part
of it, but as an overall strategy, surely we can meet.
You know, if there are I forget how many I've
got listed here. I think I've got late maybe ten
items listed. If we can get six or seven of those,

(21:25):
more than half, that will put us on a path
to prosperity and leadership and influence like we've never seen before.
And in addition to that, it will lay the groundwork
for the twenty twenty eight election. So that and I

(21:46):
don't care. I truly, I truly do not care who
that nominee is. It could be jd. Vance, It could
be Marc lar Rubio, it could be Scott Descent. It
could be somebody we don't even think about right now,
so maybe we don't even know. It could be a governor.
But whoever it is, this will be the launch pad,

(22:06):
and the rocket ship will already be taking off, and
all they need to do is grab onto that rocket
ship and keep going the same direction. I guess I'm
a little giddy about this because I've never seen anything
quite like this in my entire life, even Ronald Reagan.

(22:29):
While Reagan had grand visions of certain things, he never
really encapsulated that into what I would call this is
where I think we need to go. And I want
everybody in my cabinet, and I want everybody in my party,
and I want Americans to understand this, and this is

(22:49):
where I want to go. I said that one of
the elements that we don't really need to spend a
lot of time on, but it's worth mentioning, is the
end of mass migration. Talking about just illegal immigration into
this country, I'm talking about the ending of mass migration
into Europe, into South America or anywhere else in the world,

(23:10):
because that disrupts the culture, that disrupts the identity, and
that disrupts the national interests of all of those countries.
And if you don't believe me, as I pointed out yesterday,
look at Europe. And I know many of you don't
care about Europe. I only care about Europe because it's
part of Western civilization. And so if you've got if

(23:31):
you've got a house, and that house is called Western civilization,
and you discover black mold in it, somewhere, you discover termites,
you discover a structural weakness somewhere in that house, you
fix it, because the house will collapse if you don't. Well,
Europe is a part of the foundation of Western civilization.

(23:55):
And now Europe may be completely gone, and what we
may need to do is just demolish them and just
put them off in their corner somewhere and wall them
off and leave them alone. But I think Europe can
still be saved because even places like Germany, which still
allow mass migration, are at least recognizing that their stupid
Green New Deal policies aren't working, and they're paying some
of the highest electricity rates in the country. They you

(24:17):
look at Portugal and Spain and the blackout that occurred there,
and suddenly you realize that, oh, yeah, they screwed the pooch.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
They really have.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
But one of the things that stuck out in this
document for me was liberty as a national security interest.
And that is a striking shift because this strategy puts
constitutional liberty back at the heart of national security because
in the documentary it warns that in the name of
de radicalization, disinformation or protecting democracy, Western governments have been

(24:54):
tempted to censor speech, engage in thought police, and to
manipulate elections. And the document says very plainly that the
American government exists to secure God given natural rights. Those
are speech, religion, conscience, self government, and we are not

(25:14):
to manage or suppress them. We are to secure them.
That is such a basic fundamental principle of the Constitution.
But everybody tells me that the number one job of
the President and the Constitution is to protect America. It
just makes me win a puke. It is not it

(25:35):
is it is to guarantee and protect those God given
natural rights. A speech, religion, conscience, self government, because without those,
the country, the republic cannot exist. So under this doctrine,
national security agencies are going to get pulled back from

(25:56):
domestic political policing. They're going to get pulled back from
information control, and abroad, we're going to push our allies
to resist all these elite projects that shut down debate,
that criminalize dissent, or label mainstream views as be an extremist.
In other words, the defense of freedom is no longer
something we preach overseas while eroding it at home. It

(26:21):
becomes a test of whether a policy actually serves our
long term security. So anytime Congress is looking at a
bill or an agency is looking at a regulation or
a policy, does that advance our long term security?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
That's the question.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Michael show as great as always. It's got a small
tech piece. Can you please say pasant not a cent flake?
Kamala not kamala. Thanks Michael, keep it up, great show,
great show. We love your show.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Okay, okay, did you know who I was talking about?
All right?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Then bite my butt because if you knew what I
was talking about, bust out bassn't whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Scott? How about Scott Scott Secretary, Scott Scott B. Scott B.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
We come in here and talk one hundred miles an hour.
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(27:41):
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back to this document. I don't really, I mean I
could spend the entire programs to day on this document.
Maybe I will, maybe I won't. I actually may spend
part of the next hour on it too, because this is,
as you can probably tell by mike My enthusiasm, this

(28:02):
is a roadmap. It's a great roadmap. It's like one
of those old folding maps you used to get at
the gas station. You know, you wanted to figure out
how to get from Kansas delG We're going to go
to Aspen. Yeah, we're going to go to Aspen. And
you don't fold that map. You'd follow along, Oh my gosh.
It was exciting. Yeah, and then pretty soon you use

(28:22):
it so much it got torn in the corners and stuff.
I hope that's how this document gets used. They talk
about the economy and economic nationalism as being a grand strategy.
Listen to how this document talks about the economy not
as some separate technocratic domain, but as the bedrock of
national power. The document declares that a strong defense, industrial base,

(28:47):
reshort manufacturing, secure supply chains, and energy abundance are as
essential to our national security as are any aircraft carrier
or infantry brigade. And in practical terms, that means using
tariffs and trade policy to end one sided arrangements, to

(29:08):
punish dumping of goods in this country and to force
fair access for US goods that we export. So that
means we're going to end our dependence on our adversaries
for critical minerals or pharmaceuticals or advanced components. We're going
to use intelligence and regulation to monitoring close those vulnerabilities.

(29:31):
It means a national mobilization to produce low cost defenses,
especially against drones and missiles. In other words, we're going
to modernize the military. Wow, when you look at what's
going on between Russia and Ukraine, you look at what
you know China shows off all the time, you think yourself, crap,
Are we ready, as I said yesterday, No, I don't
think we are. Would we rise to the occasion, of

(29:54):
course we would. But do you really want to go
through another World War two where we have to ration
and we have to invoke the Defense Production Act so
that we've got, you know, manufacturing companies doing particular things
to get us so that we can actually win a war.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
No, I'd rather be prepared. Maybe that's just me.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
This document means also in terms of economic nationalism, embracing
American energy dominance, expanding oil, gas code, nuclear, rejecting the
net zero schemes, using and using cheap, reliable energy to
fuel our manufacturing comeback, and then to undercut the leverage

(30:34):
of the Pectro dictators and Beijing, who're all in kahoots.
China's out there building cold plants like there's no tomorrow,
and what are we doing. We're doing dumb ass stuff
in Colorado, like saying, oh, we're gonna get rid of
natural gas and we're gonna electrify everything, and that stupid
dumb ass Jared Polos has no idea what he's doing. Oh,

(30:54):
I take that back, he knows precisely what he's doing.
He's trying to absolutely destroy the coloratury economy. He wants
to limit your choice. He wants you to rely solely
upon wind and energy. Win when win solar, because why
that way they can control how much power you can utilize.

(31:15):
I want abundant, reliable energy when I turn the lights on,
when I flip the switch, I expect the electricity to
be there. And when it gets cold, and in my
house it's always cold, to sneak around the thermostat and
turn it up, I wanted to heat up. Or when
it gets cold or it gets hot in the summer,

(31:37):
I want to cool it off. And I don't want
some dumbass governor telling me how and when I can
do that.
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