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Too night. Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA
director of talk show host Michael Brownie. No, Brownie, you're
doing a heck of a job. The Weekend with Michael
Brown Hey broadcasting Life from Denver, Colorado. It is the
Weekend with Michael Brown. I'm really happy to have you
joining the program today. So let's let's start off this way. First,
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if you have you know what I'm What are we
going to talk about today? I don't know. It's March? First?
What do you think of wet How to talk about today?
I don't know. How about easter eggs? How about the
price of eggs? How about evs? How about all as
I take a sip of diet coke? How about World
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War three? You want to talk about World War three?
Let's talk about that. So I would encourage you. I
know I have no control over this, but I don't
know how long it's going to take me today to
walk through a fifty minute meeting. Oh you didn't know
it was fifteen minutes yesterday? Are you talking about the
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meeting you had with your boss now? I'm talking about
the meeting that blew up the world yesterday. And as
I have pondered, studied, gotten back in the history books,
and thought about everything that led up to that moment.
Yesterday afternoon, I think it's time for the whole freaking
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world to shut up and sit down and take a
deep breath, and to consider where we are, how we
got to where we are, why we are where we are,
and that you need to look around the corner, and
you need you need to take in. I don't mean
to be lecturing you. I'm just really irritated right now
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at Democrats, the cabal, the media that I repeat myself,
and to that for that matter, some conservatives I'm Republicans.
I'm pretty just much, pretty pretty much pissed off at
everybody today. And I usually come in on Saturday program
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and a really good mood, and I'm in a really
foul mood today. And I'm going a foul mood because
I have gotten inundated from all in my sphere of
influence and in my circle of friends. I have probably
every demographic and everything on the political spectrum from far
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left people that I truly consider to be communists, enemies
of this country. I wouldn't call them my best friends,
but I know them and we converse occasionally, and we
have some fairly serious discussions all the way to the
people that I would consider to be right of me,
and I'm and I'm pretty darn conservative and libertarian, and
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I've just been inundated with people who have jumped to
all sorts of conclusions about what happened yesterday in the
Oval Office without really considering the historical context of everything
that took place and the context of what was supposed
to have been accomplished yesterday. So we're going to go
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back in the history books a little bit, and we're
also going to talk about what took place yesterday, because
what took place yesterday is not surprising to me. And
I'll give you a little hint of something to think about.
How many times have for whether you listened to me
during the weekday or on the weekend, have I said
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that democrats And I want to bring that out a
little further than just democrats, although typically they are Democrats,
But how many the globalists, the elitists, the people that
think they run the world always accuse Trump or you
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or me, or anybody in the right for that matter,
accuse us of being guilty of exactly what they're doing.
And I think you may be shocked to learn that.
I think that part of what happened yesterday was a
combination of numerous factors, too many to enumerate right now,
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but let me give you just a little bit of hint.
I've heard that this was an ambush, you know what
I think it was, But it may not be the
ambush that you're thinking about. I think this was an
ambush because Voldemort Zelensky is a not that smart two
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does it speak English all that well? Three is has
a vested political interest in continuing to see this war continue.
That there are a lot the globalist military industrial complex people,
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there are a lot of Europeans, for some good reasons
and for some bad reasons, want to see the war continue.
And that this president, Donald Trump, sees himself as a
mediator and he's dealing with things as they are, not
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as you and I, or for that matter, Steer Krmer
the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, or Emmanuel Macrone
the President of France, or for that matters, is Zelenski
himself the president of the President of Ukraine, or for
that matter, of Vladimir Putin be aggressor in all of this.
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I don't think they quite all themselves understand. They all
have their agendas, they all have their reasons, they all
have the things that they want to do, and you
and I can we can do one of two things.
We can just run to somebody's corner and say this
is the side we're on. Run to some other corner
and say we're on that side. Well, we can say, wait,
let's stop. Can we look at the entire picture for
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a moment and understand the entirety of everything that's going
on and what's going on in front of us and
behind this around us that we don't see, but that
if we just pay attention, we might get enough of
a hint to understand a little bit about what's happening now.
I wanted to say all of that before I say this.
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If there's ever a day that you want to send
me a text message, and I can't guarantee that I
will answer your question specifically, but get I can guarantee
that if you send me a text message. As I
go through and I have no idea how long this
is going to take today I've played it out of
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my head and it could take just the first hour,
it may take all three hours. I don't know, but
as I walked through what could be an Arts Duke
Ferdinand moment for the world, and if you don't get
that historical reference, let me put it pretty cleanly, plainly
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for you. Arts Duke Ferdinand was assassinated and that began
if you go back in history, that was the moment
that World War One actually began. And an Oval Office
meeting on Friday February twenty eight may have been the
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day that World War three actually began. And Donald Trump
even said that yesterday, you're gambling with World War three here,
and you're being pretty stupid about it. So if there's
ever a day that you wanted to send me a
text and ask me a question or say that you
don't understand something, or that you have a different take,
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today's probably the day to do it. And the reason
I say that is I only have in front of
me today about twenty tabs, which is about half what
I normally have of different stories. And to be quite
honest with you about today's program. While I can certainly
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pivot at any moment and go off and talk about
any number of other things that occurred this week or
that may occur next week, I can do that this
is not my first rodeo, and I can certainly do that,
but I'm more concerned about what I've heard again from
that gamut of that spectrum of people from the far
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far left all the way to the far far right
reaching out to me and saying certain things, and me
come into the conclusion that you don't really understand what's happening. Now.
One last comment that I'll make before the break, I
may not understand fully everything that's going on because having
sat in that Oval office myself, and having seen a
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president get mad about something that's going on but behind
the curtain, not in front of the cameras, I've got
a little, maybe slightly different perspective than other people do.
And I also understand that there are muppet masters out there,
puppet masters that are playing a game, and the only
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one that they really cannot control is Donald Trump, jd Vance,
Marco Larubio, and Mike Wallas, the President, the vice president,
the Secretary of State, and the National Security Advisor. And
what we're witnessing is, I think what a majority of
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Americans actually wanted. But sometimes when you start getting what
you want and you see that it's kind of ugly,
you start to have doubts. Well anyway, So so Weekend
with Michael Brown. If you have a question or comment
about what I'm saying today, today's the day to send
me that message. The number on your message app is
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three three one zero three. Just use the word Mike
or Michael as a keyword. When we get back, let's
get rolling. Hey, welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown.
Glad to have you with me. So we're going to
spend I don't know however long it takes today to
walk through a depending on when you went to meeting start,
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but anywhere from an hour and a half fifty minutes.
But it is not a ten minute meeting, which is
what's being blasted all over the airwaves since yesterday afternoon.
This was much longer than a ten minute meeting. But
to get to where we are from yesterday, we need
to go back, and we need to go back. Can
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understand that thirty years ago the well actually a little
more than thirty years ago. Now the Budapest memorandum. You
know what, BEFRA. I can go to the Budapest Memorandum.
Let's go to the map. Give a map, Go to
maps dot Google dot com, or go to your Apple
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maps or whatever whatever you got, you gotta. You gotta
an atlas in front of you, go look up the Ukraine.
So I think the first thing to understand is where
is Ukraine? Can you point it out on a map?
Can you, without looking telling me the countries that surround Ukraine,
because I think most Americans probably cannot. I often refer
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to the old Eastern Bloc countries. But if you look
at a map of Ukraine, you'll see that obviously we
got Russia to its east. But let's work our way
north west, south and then back east again on a map.
It will give you some idea of the geopolitical nature
of this of this conflict and where it originally originated.
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If if you go back all the way to World
War two, when the Old Soviet Union was still an entity,
countries that didn't even exist at the time, but are
now part of the map that I'm asking you to
look at. Latvia Lithuania. I mean, you've got Belarus right
to the north of Ukraine, and then Latvia north of
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Belarus Lithuania. You've got Poland just now slightly to the
east of both Belaru. I'm to the west of both
Belarus and Ukraine. You've got Czechia, the old Czech Republic,
You've got Slovakia, Hungary, Austria, a little further back to
the west, Slovenia, Croatia, Romania, Serbia, Kosovo, Bulgaria, all surrounding Ukraine,
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and I forgot about Moldova. Those were with for example,
like Austria. Those were all part of the Eastern Bloc countries.
Those were all the old part of the Old Soviet Union,
including Ukraine. And Vladimir Putin has made it clear that
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he would like to reestablish the Old Soviet Union. He
wants that to be his legacy. And in addition to that,
he's always believed that culturally and socially, politically, everything, language,
everything that you can imagine, that Ukraine was always actually
originally a part of Russia, the Old Motherland. Now that's
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I think that's debatable, and if you want to hear
his argument for that. A great place to hear his
argument for that is when Tucker Carlson interviewed him, and Tucker,
either purposely or by accident, allowed Vladimir Putin to dominate
the conversation. In Vladimir Putin gave his version of history
of why Ukraine was and always has been, and always
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will be a part of Russia. And you can go
watch that's it's actually a fascinating version of his history
of Russian history, given by an old KGB officer who
loves Russian history. So that's the mindset of Vladimir Putin.
He's a thug, he's a dictator, he's an aggressor. He
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is he is not so much as I believe Shi Jingping,
the Emperor of Emperor, the dictator of China is. But
they're both dictators in the sense of Adolf Hitler. They
engage in ethnic cleansing. They are total violators of human rights,
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whether it's what they're doing, what Putin's doing in Ukraine
right now, what Putin does to his own countrymen, or
what Sheijing Ping does to the Wigers, or that he's
done to Hong Kong. These are ruthless in him of
Western civilization, and you have to take them for what
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they are. There was a time, before we go back
to the Budapest Memorandum, there was a time when Russia
actually wanted to join NATO. They wanted to be a
part of the G seven, they wanted to be a
part of the Western Alliance, and Putin thought that he could,
you know, if you know, rather than fight, how about
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I join them? And our country, including yours, truly went
to Brussels and sat at NATO, and I argued and
debated with the French that we should allow Russia to
join NATO, and we had probably used probably fifty to
fifty I'd have to go back and really look at
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my notes. But ultimately those negotiations broke down and everything
at that point kind of fell apart. So let's go
back even before that, because thirty years ago the Budapest
Memorandum ensured the destruction of this kind of post Soviet
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nuclear stockpile, but it was overshadowed when it was entered
into because at that time the President of Russia bors Yeltsen,
was complaining that NATO expansion was causing a new division
of Europe. You see, it's always about NATO. I shouldn't
say it's always, but almost always. You can find in
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all of these discussions if you look at it historically,
that NATO and the European Alliance has always been been
seen as a threat to Russia, despite whatever valid or invalid,
legitimate or delegitimate sincere or insincere efforts by Russia to
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try to be a part of the Western Alliance. It's
always been a burn their saddle since Cold Peace blew
up with Bill Clinton in Budapest in December of nineteen
ninety four, and that was probably one of the biggest
train wrecks on the track to NATO expansion in the
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nineteen nineties and resulted in or from, i should say,
the domestic politics both in our country and in Russia,
together with contradictions in the Clinton attempt Tavis Cake and
eat it too. He wanted to expand NATO at the
same time that he wanted to partner with Russia. Well,
that sounds kind of like what Bush was trying to
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do and Putin were trying to do back in the
early two thousands. Well, what did that memorandum really do?
Because everybody kind of knows about it, but do you
really know what it was? I'll tell you that's next.
So begin with Michael Brown. The text line is three
three one zero three keyword Micha or Michael. I'll be
right back tonight. Michael Brown joins me here. The former
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FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown Brownie No Brownie,
you're doing a heck of a job the Weekend with
Michael Brown. Hey, you're listening to the Weekend with Michael Brown.
And today we're doing a history lesson to help us
better understand what happened in the Oval office yesterday. And
I would encourage you to do two things. Follow me
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you can ask me anything, tell me anything in particular
today because I'm kind of using the text messages to
see how fast I need to be moving or slowing down.
In terms of this discussion of the history. So so
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far we've we've talked about how we've looked at the
geography of Ukraine and recognize that it is really smack
dab in the middle of the old Soviet Union, which
is exactly what Vladimir Putin wants to re establish. But
it goes back even before Putin. It goes back to
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Boris Yeltsin on December five, nineteen ninety four. In fact,
you can find this on the front page of the
New York Times. You can go to the New York
Times Archives for December five, nineteen ninety four. On the
front page is Yeltsin says NATO is trying to split
the continent again. He accused the He accused Clinton and
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all the other European heads of state that were gathered
for a CSSEE a Conference on Security and Cooperation in
Europe conference, that the dominator in the United States was
trying to split the continent through NATO expansion. Yeltsin was
really angry. Well, if you fast forward to Putin in
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two thousand and seven, remember the Munich Security Conference. The
JD Vance spoke at just what a few weeks ago,
in which he talked about how freedom of speech, freedom, religion,
and the Europeans needed to step up. Well, Vladimir Putin
spoke at that same conference in two thousand and seven,
and he echoed almost everything that Boris Geltzen had said
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back in nineteen ninety four in the lead up to
the signing of the Budapest Memorandum, and it was basically
that you are expanding NATO, that we see that as
a threat to us, and we'll do whatever we need
to do. To respond to that. Now, don't get ahead
of yourselves, just deal with that historical fact. So the
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documents that were signed that ended up being what is
called the Budapest Memorandum was a Most people look at
it and say, well, that's where Ukraine gave up all
of their nuclear warheads to the old Soviet Union, to Russia,
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and in exchange for that, we promised to give them
security agreements, and that Europe agreed to give them security agreements.
And generically speaking, that's true, that is primarily what we
agreed to do. But in hindsight you would realize that
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those nukes that the Ukrainians gave up, they didn't have
the capacity to maintain them. They didn't have the billions
of dollars necessary for a nuclear fuel cycle program that
would prevent the decay of the warhead fissile material, especially
in the face of inevitable international sanctions such as those
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that we have placed, for example, in North Korea, and
North Korea has proven that, oh well, sanctions, we end
up developing nukes. Anyway. When those accords were signed the
Budapest Memorandum, Ukraine's oil and gas debts to Rush at
the time had already reached five billion dollars. So Ukraine
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was already in debt to Russia to the tune of
five billion dollars back when the Budapest Memorandum was signed
in nineteen ninety four. So the we get to the
point where you recognize that what we're witnessing today is
nothing new. We're seeing history repeat itself. Except this country,
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in those intervening years, has seen what happened to the
old Soviet Union Union in Afghanistan. If you've ever seen
the movie Charlie Wilson's War Will, you'll notice you'll recognize
that the covert operations of the United States, Visa VIV
the CIA were able to essentially drive the Old Soviet
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Union out of Afghanistan. We failed to learn the lessons
of that, and then post nine to eleven, we decided
to invade Afghanistan. Now, I was there when that happened,
and I can tell you that even at the time,
I thought the invasion f Afghanistan was a mistake because
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our mission had not been well defined. And I want
you to keep that phrasen mind. The mission had not
been well defined. The mission, you would think, was as
I thought it should be, was to hunt down, capture
Bin Laden, and destroy the al Kaeda network by cutting
off the head of the snake. Well, that meant what
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we should have been doing, in my opinion, was you
may need boots on the ground, and you may need
to establish, you know, something like Bagram Air Force Base,
so you would have a forward operating base to do that.
But it didn't mean that we needed to engage in
just you know, thousands of boots on the ground conducting
what was in essence of land war at the time.
We probably needed some boots on the ground to act
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as support for whatever covert operations were going on in
the country. Tount down Ben Lauden, who it turns out
was just next door hiding in Pakistan, And if we
had focused our resources on hunting down Ben Lauden, we
might not have ended up in a twenty plus year war.
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And if we had not had an income poop to
become president, we would still have Bogram Air Force Base,
which would be a forward operating base, which just in
and of itself may have been enough of a deterrent
to keep Putin from doing what he did in Ukraine
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in twenty twenty two. But that's jumping forward a little bit,
because mean you go back to twenty fourteen, because in
twenty fourteen, Putin decided, looking at Barack Obama and looking
at his appeasement of the Iranians, everybody else said Oh,
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I think I've got a softy here where I can
go in and just take Crimea, and boom, he goes
in and takes Crimere Crimea because for his black Sea
fleet he needed an operating base, and Crimea provided him
the opportunity, putin the opportunity to capture that area and exit,
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and he did without a whimper from the United States. Oh,
the European allies, I mean Obama, everybody, you know, everybody
remember Obama, that's a red line. You can't cross that
red line. Well he crossed it. Not a damn thing happened.
And we could debate till the cows come home of
what Obama could have done or should have done. But
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I'm not dealing in the possibilities of the probabilities or
what could or couldn't have been done. I'm dealing in
what was done, and what was done was nothing. We
drew a red line and he crossed it. We didn't
do anything. And then I told him, ah, so This
is a guy that I can do whatever I want to,
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he can draw whatever redlines he wants, and I can
do anything. And then Trump comes into office. And Trump
comes into office and he's so proudly likes to say,
and I think rightfully, so Putin didn't do anything well
he was in office. Fast forward to the twenty twenty election.
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What happens two years later? Oh yeah, not only do
we elect a demended old fart that even CNN is
now admitting, and Jake Tapper in a book is talking
about how, oh yeah, it can be all kind of
knew he didn't know what he was doing. Joe Biden
has been wrong on foreign policy for his entire life,
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even as Vice president, And in fact, when we had
the opportunity to capture Ben Lauden hiding in Pakistan, who
was the one vote against doing that? Joe Biden? Because
Joe Biden is afraid of conflict. Joe Biden does not
be because he's a He is a He's a politician
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through and through. And I mean that in the most
derogatory sense I can put it. He's always looking for
what's in it for me? What's in it for me?
What's in it? For me, which we know for him
and his family that's money, and don't and keep that
in mind too. So Biden gets elected. Putin remembers Biden
from his days of his vice presidency, and he also
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remembers the time that Biden went to Ukraine and said,
unless you fire that special investigator that's investigating the company
that my son's on the board of directors, Barisma, you're
not going to get this billion dollars in four and eight.
And then he comes back to this country and he
brags to the Council and Foreign Relations. You know, I
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told I forget the President's name, that you're not going
to get this billion dollars. And the President said, oh no,
you can't do that. He says, oh, you don't think
I can. You call Obama because you know I'm here
on his behalf and I'm not going to get the
money unless you fire the special that prosecutor. And he
comes back. Biden comes back to the Council on Foreigmulations
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and tells the CFR, well, son of a bitch, guess
what he did. He fired the prosecutor. I gave him money.
I got it on the plane, got on air Force too,
and I came back Putin wants that, And Putin said, oh,
this is a guy who has no cahones whatsoever. All
he cares about is whatever he needs to do that's
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going to benefit himself. So when he gets into office,
I shouldn't laugh, but when you think about it, it's
freaking hilarious. Putin strategically starts moving all of his forces
onto the Ukrainian border. The CIA knows it, reports it,
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we can see it. We cattle's bells, we saw the
satellite photographs. It was in the public domain. And Biden
said nothing or maybe the famous words don't, but Putin
already knew from history that don't didn't mean squat with
the Obama Biden presidency. So now the guy is older,
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more demented, just as weak, and it's too busy courting China,
so boom he moves in. What happens next? I think
what happens next is why where we are today? It's
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All of this can, to some degree or another, be
traced right back to what Biden says next. Hey, welcome
back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have
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It's at Michael Brown USA. The text line number is
thirty three one zero three keyworder Mike or Michael. So
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what did Biden do after what he thought might be
a minor incursion despite tens of thousands of troops on
the Ukrainian border? He told Putin don't and then Putin did?
And then what did Biden do next? I think the
next thing is what has gotten us to the point
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where we are today In a war, regardless of the aggressor,
regardless of which side of a war you were on,
the objective is to win or the objective is to
end it, win it or end it. You win it
by obliterating your enemy. You ended through a negotiation. The
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Korean War still going on? Did you know that? Yeah?
The Korean War is still going on. But of course
there's a armistice, there's a ceasefire, and we've got North
and South Korean, we've got a demilitarized zone. It happens
all the time. But that's not what Biden did. Biden
didn't say to Zelensky, Europeans didn't say to Zelensky, We'll
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give you what you need to win. We will do
whatever we need to do for you to win this
and stop this aggression. Instead, they said, we'll open our checkbook.
We'll give you whatever you need for as long as
you need it. No accountability, no strategic planning sessions, no advisors, nothing,
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just you, the former comedian, the former entertainer, now president
of Ukraine. You go conduct the war. You tell us
you know what you need, and we'll make the deposits
and molls can continue to make the deposits, continue to
ship the arms. Can you continue to ship the armaments.
We'll do whatever, regardless whether you're winning or losing, because
our promise is this, We'll just be with you as
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long as it takes. I'd like to have that deal.
I'd like to be able to have to deal. It says,
he'll just fund me for whatever my stupid idea is,
just as long as it takes, regardless of whether there's
any strategic objective to win, loser or come to a draw.
We'll just keep funding you forever. And we don't audit,
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we don't look at it. We don't ask where the
money is going, we don't ask what's the plan, we
don't do anything. Ask yourself, why would that be? Because
the cabal, the very military industrial complex that Dwight Eisenhower
warned us about, is making a fiefsies load of money
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off this war. And the Europeans know that Putin is
a threat, and so as long as we've got the
United States footing the bill, and we can make all
sorts of arguments. Look, I know that Trump trolls out
the figure three hundred and fifty billion, which I think
he has in his head, because when you add up
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what we've done and what the what the in what
NATO has done, you get close to three hundred and
fifty three hundred and sixty billion. Either we're one hundred
and fifty billion, in the Europeans a one hundred and
sixty billion, or vice versa. But it's it's all pretty much.
It's fairly close, close enough that when you're talking to
billions of dollars, it's okay, that's a rounding error. It's
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a horrible mistake to make. And so that draws Putin
closer to the North Koreans and the Chinese. Because even
though Zelenski has been able to prosecute the war in
trench warfare, just like World War One, just you know,
by meter inch by inch, foot by foot whatever. They're
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just slaughtering each other, literally slaughtering each other. North Korea,
because Kim Jong Hoon doesn't give a right ask about
his people, sends twelve fourteen thousand soldiers whatever it is
over and they just get completely wiped out, and he
will go, well, okay, we'll just send some more. Sizelensky's
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to the point where we've got fifty sixty and seventy
year olds fighting on the front lines. Russia is to
the point where they're now they've fifty thousand prisoners have
lost their lives, all seeking pardons. There are people who
have been promised twenty three thousand rubles enough to put
down for a down payment on a condor and what
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they would call it a flat or an apartment, and
so they're doing that because and the families are just
waving them goodbye because they're getting the twenty three thousand
as the bonus, and the famili's like, yeah, okay, well
we you well, hey, it's called by the apartment. And
Putinskinn need the point where he's facing a domestic problem
of am I going to have to conscript people. So
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Lensky's facing the same thing. This is a World War
one slaughterfest going on. And then we have the elections
in on November five, this country, by an overwhelming margin,
elects a new sheriff. Because we want all sorts of
things in this country to change. Our foreign relations, our
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domestic affairs, we want everything to change because we know
the path we're on is not going to work. And
so Trump becomes and I've chosen this word purposely and carefully,
Trump now takes the position of a mediator. And I
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think it's horrifically, incredibly whatever agitive I can put in
front of it important for you to understand that the
United States is now a mediator because we're trying to
stop the war because a majority of Americans don't want
boots on the ground. Oh people say, we'd love to
see we want to see Ukraine win, but we're not
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willing to put the money up for it. We're not
willing to put the boots on the grounds to accomplish that.
The Europeans are the Europeans. If you listen closely, say
if you listen to Starmer and Macron, they say, oh yeah,
we'll put boots on the ground. Oh as long as
we get you Americans. Tobacco says a backstop, and Americans
are saying no, we don't want to do that. So
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we have put Trump in the position to be an
a mediator. So what does that mean. That's next
Too night. Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA
director of talk show host Michael Brownie. No, Brownie, you're
doing a heck of a job. The Weekend with Michael
Brown Hey broadcasting Life from Denver, Colorado. It is the
Weekend with Michael Brown. I'm really happy to have you
joining the program today. So let's let's start off this way. First,
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if you have you know what I'm What are we
going to talk about today? I don't know. It's March? First?
What do you think of wet How to talk about today?
I don't know. How about easter eggs? How about the
price of eggs? How about evs? How about all as
I take a sip of diet coke? How about World
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War three? You want to talk about World War three?
Let's talk about that. So I would encourage you. I
know I have no control over this, but I don't
know how long it's going to take me today to
walk through a fifty minute meeting. Oh you didn't know
it was fifteen minutes yesterday? Are you talking about the
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meeting you had with your boss now? I'm talking about
the meeting that blew up the world yesterday. And as
I have pondered, studied, gotten back in the history books,
and thought about everything that led up to that moment.
Yesterday afternoon, I think it's time for the whole freaking
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world to shut up and sit down and take a
deep breath, and to consider where we are, how we
got to where we are, why we are where we are,
and that you need to look around the corner, and
you need you need to take in. I don't mean
to be lecturing you. I'm just really irritated right now
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at Democrats, the cabal, the media that I repeat myself,
and to that for that matter, some conservatives I'm Republicans.
I'm pretty just much, pretty pretty much pissed off at
everybody today. And I usually come in on Saturday program
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and a really good mood, and I'm in a really
foul mood today. And I'm going a foul mood because
I have gotten inundated from all in my sphere of
influence and in my circle of friends. I have probably
every demographic and everything on the political spectrum from far
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left people that I truly consider to be communists, enemies
of this country. I wouldn't call them my best friends,
but I know them and we converse occasionally, and we
have some fairly serious discussions all the way to the
people that I would consider to be right of me,
and I'm and I'm pretty darn conservative and libertarian, and
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I've just been inundated with people who have jumped to
all sorts of conclusions about what happened yesterday in the
Oval Office without really considering the historical context of everything
that took place and the context of what was supposed
to have been accomplished yesterday. So we're going to go
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back in the history books a little bit, and we're
also going to talk about what took place yesterday, because
what took place yesterday is not surprising to me. And
I'll give you a little hint of something to think about.
How many times have for whether you listened to me
during the weekday or on the weekend, have I said
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that democrats And I want to bring that out a
little further than just democrats, although typically they are Democrats,
But how many the globalists, the elitists, the people that
think they run the world always accuse Trump or you
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or me, or anybody in the right for that matter,
accuse us of being guilty of exactly what they're doing.
And I think you may be shocked to learn that.
I think that part of what happened yesterday was a
combination of numerous factors, too many to enumerate right now,
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but let me give you just a little bit of hint.
I've heard that this was an ambush, you know what
I think it was, But it may not be the
ambush that you're thinking about. I think this was an
ambush because Voldemort Zelensky is a not that smart two
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does it speak English all that well? Three is has
a vested political interest in continuing to see this war continue.
That there are a lot the globalist military industrial complex people,
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there are a lot of Europeans, for some good reasons
and for some bad reasons, want to see the war continue.
And that this president, Donald Trump, sees himself as a
mediator and he's dealing with things as they are, not
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as you and I, or for that matter, Steer Krmer
the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, or Emmanuel Macrone
the President of France, or for that matters, is Zelenski
himself the president of the President of Ukraine, or for
that matter, of Vladimir Putin be aggressor in all of this.
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I don't think they quite all themselves understand. They all
have their agendas, they all have their reasons, they all
have the things that they want to do, and you
and I can we can do one of two things.
We can just run to somebody's corner and say this
is the side we're on. Run to some other corner
and say we're on that side. Well, we can say, wait,
let's stop. Can we look at the entire picture for
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a moment and understand the entirety of everything that's going
on and what's going on in front of us and
behind this around us that we don't see, but that
if we just pay attention, we might get enough of
a hint to understand a little bit about what's happening now.
I wanted to say all of that before I say this.
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If there's ever a day that you want to send
me a text message, and I can't guarantee that I
will answer your question specifically, but get I can guarantee
that if you send me a text message. As I
go through and I have no idea how long this
is going to take today I've played it out of
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my head and it could take just the first hour,
it may take all three hours. I don't know, but
as I walked through what could be an Arts Duke
Ferdinand moment for the world, and if you don't get
that historical reference, let me put it pretty cleanly, plainly
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for you. Arts Duke Ferdinand was assassinated and that began
if you go back in history, that was the moment
that World War One actually began. And an Oval Office
meeting on Friday February twenty eight may have been the
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day that World War three actually began. And Donald Trump
even said that yesterday, you're gambling with World War three here,
and you're being pretty stupid about it. So if there's
ever a day that you wanted to send me a
text and ask me a question or say that you
don't understand something, or that you have a different take,
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today's probably the day to do it. And the reason
I say that is I only have in front of
me today about twenty tabs, which is about half what
I normally have of different stories. And to be quite
honest with you about today's program. While I can certainly
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pivot at any moment and go off and talk about
any number of other things that occurred this week or
that may occur next week, I can do that this
is not my first rodeo, and I can certainly do that,
but I'm more concerned about what I've heard again from
that gamut of that spectrum of people from the far
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far left all the way to the far far right
reaching out to me and saying certain things, and me
come into the conclusion that you don't really understand what's happening. Now.
One last comment that I'll make before the break, I
may not understand fully everything that's going on because having
sat in that Oval office myself, and having seen a
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president get mad about something that's going on but behind
the curtain, not in front of the cameras, I've got
a little, maybe slightly different perspective than other people do.
And I also understand that there are muppet masters out there,
puppet masters that are playing a game, and the only
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one that they really cannot control is Donald Trump, jd Vance,
Marco Larubio, and Mike Wallas, the President, the vice president,
the Secretary of State, and the National Security Advisor. And
what we're witnessing is, I think what a majority of
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Americans actually wanted. But sometimes when you start getting what
you want and you see that it's kind of ugly,
you start to have doubts. Well anyway, So so Weekend
with Michael Brown. If you have a question or comment
about what I'm saying today, today's the day to send
me that message. The number on your message app is
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three three one zero three. Just use the word Mike
or Michael as a keyword. When we get back, let's
get rolling. Hey, welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown.
Glad to have you with me. So we're going to
spend I don't know however long it takes today to
walk through a depending on when you went to meeting start,
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but anywhere from an hour and a half fifty minutes.
But it is not a ten minute meeting, which is
what's being blasted all over the airwaves since yesterday afternoon.
This was much longer than a ten minute meeting. But
to get to where we are from yesterday, we need
to go back, and we need to go back. Can
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understand that thirty years ago the well actually a little
more than thirty years ago. Now the Budapest memorandum. You
know what, BEFRA. I can go to the Budapest Memorandum.
Let's go to the map. Give a map, Go to
maps dot Google dot com, or go to your Apple
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maps or whatever whatever you got, you gotta. You gotta
an atlas in front of you, go look up the Ukraine.
So I think the first thing to understand is where
is Ukraine? Can you point it out on a map?
Can you, without looking telling me the countries that surround Ukraine,
because I think most Americans probably cannot. I often refer
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to the old Eastern Bloc countries. But if you look
at a map of Ukraine, you'll see that obviously we
got Russia to its east. But let's work our way
north west, south and then back east again on a map.
It will give you some idea of the geopolitical nature
of this of this conflict and where it originally originated.
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If if you go back all the way to World
War two, when the Old Soviet Union was still an entity,
countries that didn't even exist at the time, but are
now part of the map that I'm asking you to
look at. Latvia Lithuania. I mean, you've got Belarus right
to the north of Ukraine, and then Latvia north of
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Belarus Lithuania. You've got Poland just now slightly to the
east of both Belaru. I'm to the west of both
Belarus and Ukraine. You've got Czechia, the old Czech Republic,
You've got Slovakia, Hungary, Austria, a little further back to
the west, Slovenia, Croatia, Romania, Serbia, Kosovo, Bulgaria, all surrounding Ukraine,
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and I forgot about Moldova. Those were with for example,
like Austria. Those were all part of the Eastern Bloc countries.
Those were all the old part of the Old Soviet Union,
including Ukraine. And Vladimir Putin has made it clear that
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he would like to reestablish the Old Soviet Union. He
wants that to be his legacy. And in addition to that,
he's always believed that culturally and socially, politically, everything, language,
everything that you can imagine, that Ukraine was always actually
originally a part of Russia, the Old Motherland. Now that's
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I think that's debatable, and if you want to hear
his argument for that. A great place to hear his
argument for that is when Tucker Carlson interviewed him, and Tucker,
either purposely or by accident, allowed Vladimir Putin to dominate
the conversation. In Vladimir Putin gave his version of history
of why Ukraine was and always has been, and always
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will be a part of Russia. And you can go
watch that's it's actually a fascinating version of his history
of Russian history, given by an old KGB officer who
loves Russian history. So that's the mindset of Vladimir Putin.
He's a thug, he's a dictator, he's an aggressor. He
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is he is not so much as I believe Shi Jingping,
the Emperor of Emperor, the dictator of China is. But
they're both dictators in the sense of Adolf Hitler. They
engage in ethnic cleansing. They are total violators of human rights,
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whether it's what they're doing, what Putin's doing in Ukraine
right now, what Putin does to his own countrymen, or
what Sheijing Ping does to the Wigers, or that he's
done to Hong Kong. These are ruthless in him of
Western civilization, and you have to take them for what
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they are. There was a time, before we go back
to the Budapest Memorandum, there was a time when Russia
actually wanted to join NATO. They wanted to be a
part of the G seven, they wanted to be a
part of the Western Alliance, and Putin thought that he could,
you know, if you know, rather than fight, how about
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I join them? And our country, including yours, truly went
to Brussels and sat at NATO, and I argued and
debated with the French that we should allow Russia to
join NATO, and we had probably used probably fifty to
fifty I'd have to go back and really look at
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my notes. But ultimately those negotiations broke down and everything
at that point kind of fell apart. So let's go
back even before that, because thirty years ago the Budapest
Memorandum ensured the destruction of this kind of post Soviet
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nuclear stockpile, but it was overshadowed when it was entered
into because at that time the President of Russia bors Yeltsen,
was complaining that NATO expansion was causing a new division
of Europe. You see, it's always about NATO. I shouldn't
say it's always, but almost always. You can find in
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all of these discussions if you look at it historically,
that NATO and the European Alliance has always been been
seen as a threat to Russia, despite whatever valid or invalid,
legitimate or delegitimate sincere or insincere efforts by Russia to
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try to be a part of the Western Alliance. It's
always been a burn their saddle since Cold Peace blew
up with Bill Clinton in Budapest in December of nineteen
ninety four, and that was probably one of the biggest
train wrecks on the track to NATO expansion in the
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nineteen nineties and resulted in or from, i should say,
the domestic politics both in our country and in Russia,
together with contradictions in the Clinton attempt Tavis Cake and
eat it too. He wanted to expand NATO at the
same time that he wanted to partner with Russia. Well,
that sounds kind of like what Bush was trying to
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do and Putin were trying to do back in the
early two thousands. Well, what did that memorandum really do?
Because everybody kind of knows about it, but do you
really know what it was? I'll tell you that's next.
So begin with Michael Brown. The text line is three
three one zero three keyword Micha or Michael. I'll be
right back tonight. Michael Brown joins me here. The former
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FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown Brownie No Brownie,
you're doing a heck of a job the Weekend with
Michael Brown. Hey, you're listening to the Weekend with Michael Brown.
And today we're doing a history lesson to help us
better understand what happened in the Oval office yesterday. And
I would encourage you to do two things. Follow me
on X it's at Michael Brown USA. And in your
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me anytime, just use the keyword Mike or Michael, and
you can ask me anything, tell me anything in particular
today because I'm kind of using the text messages to
see how fast I need to be moving or slowing down.
In terms of this discussion of the history. So so
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far we've we've talked about how we've looked at the
geography of Ukraine and recognize that it is really smack
dab in the middle of the old Soviet Union, which
is exactly what Vladimir Putin wants to re establish. But
it goes back even before Putin. It goes back to
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Boris Yeltsin on December five, nineteen ninety four. In fact,
you can find this on the front page of the
New York Times. You can go to the New York
Times Archives for December five, nineteen ninety four. On the
front page is Yeltsin says NATO is trying to split
the continent again. He accused the He accused Clinton and
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all the other European heads of state that were gathered
for a CSSEE a Conference on Security and Cooperation in
Europe conference, that the dominator in the United States was
trying to split the continent through NATO expansion. Yeltsin was
really angry. Well, if you fast forward to Putin in
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two thousand and seven, remember the Munich Security Conference. The
JD Vance spoke at just what a few weeks ago,
in which he talked about how freedom of speech, freedom, religion,
and the Europeans needed to step up. Well, Vladimir Putin
spoke at that same conference in two thousand and seven,
and he echoed almost everything that Boris Geltzen had said
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back in nineteen ninety four in the lead up to
the signing of the Budapest Memorandum, and it was basically
that you are expanding NATO, that we see that as
a threat to us, and we'll do whatever we need
to do. To respond to that. Now, don't get ahead
of yourselves, just deal with that historical fact. So the
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documents that were signed that ended up being what is
called the Budapest Memorandum was a Most people look at
it and say, well, that's where Ukraine gave up all
of their nuclear warheads to the old Soviet Union, to Russia,
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and in exchange for that, we promised to give them
security agreements, and that Europe agreed to give them security agreements.
And generically speaking, that's true, that is primarily what we
agreed to do. But in hindsight you would realize that
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those nukes that the Ukrainians gave up, they didn't have
the capacity to maintain them. They didn't have the billions
of dollars necessary for a nuclear fuel cycle program that
would prevent the decay of the warhead fissile material, especially
in the face of inevitable international sanctions such as those
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that we have placed, for example, in North Korea, and
North Korea has proven that, oh well, sanctions, we end
up developing nukes. Anyway. When those accords were signed the
Budapest Memorandum, Ukraine's oil and gas debts to Rush at
the time had already reached five billion dollars. So Ukraine
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was already in debt to Russia to the tune of
five billion dollars back when the Budapest Memorandum was signed
in nineteen ninety four. So the we get to the
point where you recognize that what we're witnessing today is
nothing new. We're seeing history repeat itself. Except this country,
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in those intervening years, has seen what happened to the
old Soviet Union Union in Afghanistan. If you've ever seen
the movie Charlie Wilson's War Will, you'll notice you'll recognize
that the covert operations of the United States, Visa VIV
the CIA were able to essentially drive the Old Soviet
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Union out of Afghanistan. We failed to learn the lessons
of that, and then post nine to eleven, we decided
to invade Afghanistan. Now, I was there when that happened,
and I can tell you that even at the time,
I thought the invasion f Afghanistan was a mistake because
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our mission had not been well defined. And I want
you to keep that phrasen mind. The mission had not
been well defined. The mission, you would think, was as
I thought it should be, was to hunt down, capture
Bin Laden, and destroy the al Kaeda network by cutting
off the head of the snake. Well, that meant what
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we should have been doing, in my opinion, was you
may need boots on the ground, and you may need
to establish, you know, something like Bagram Air Force Base,
so you would have a forward operating base to do that.
But it didn't mean that we needed to engage in
just you know, thousands of boots on the ground conducting
what was in essence of land war at the time.
We probably needed some boots on the ground to act
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as support for whatever covert operations were going on in
the country. Tount down Ben Lauden, who it turns out
was just next door hiding in Pakistan, And if we
had focused our resources on hunting down Ben Lauden, we
might not have ended up in a twenty plus year war.
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And if we had not had an income poop to
become president, we would still have Bogram Air Force Base,
which would be a forward operating base, which just in
and of itself may have been enough of a deterrent
to keep Putin from doing what he did in Ukraine
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in twenty twenty two. But that's jumping forward a little bit,
because mean you go back to twenty fourteen, because in
twenty fourteen, Putin decided, looking at Barack Obama and looking
at his appeasement of the Iranians, everybody else said Oh,
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I think I've got a softy here where I can
go in and just take Crimea, and boom, he goes
in and takes Crimere Crimea because for his black Sea
fleet he needed an operating base, and Crimea provided him
the opportunity, putin the opportunity to capture that area and exit,
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and he did without a whimper from the United States. Oh,
the European allies, I mean Obama, everybody, you know, everybody
remember Obama, that's a red line. You can't cross that
red line. Well he crossed it. Not a damn thing happened.
And we could debate till the cows come home of
what Obama could have done or should have done. But
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I'm not dealing in the possibilities of the probabilities or
what could or couldn't have been done. I'm dealing in
what was done, and what was done was nothing. We
drew a red line and he crossed it. We didn't
do anything. And then I told him, ah, so This
is a guy that I can do whatever I want to,
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he can draw whatever redlines he wants, and I can
do anything. And then Trump comes into office. And Trump
comes into office and he's so proudly likes to say,
and I think rightfully, so Putin didn't do anything well
he was in office. Fast forward to the twenty twenty election.
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What happens two years later? Oh yeah, not only do
we elect a demended old fart that even CNN is
now admitting, and Jake Tapper in a book is talking
about how, oh yeah, it can be all kind of
knew he didn't know what he was doing. Joe Biden
has been wrong on foreign policy for his entire life,
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even as Vice president, And in fact, when we had
the opportunity to capture Ben Lauden hiding in Pakistan, who
was the one vote against doing that? Joe Biden? Because
Joe Biden is afraid of conflict. Joe Biden does not
be because he's a He is a He's a politician
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through and through. And I mean that in the most
derogatory sense I can put it. He's always looking for
what's in it for me? What's in it for me?
What's in it? For me, which we know for him
and his family that's money, and don't and keep that
in mind too. So Biden gets elected. Putin remembers Biden
from his days of his vice presidency, and he also
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remembers the time that Biden went to Ukraine and said,
unless you fire that special investigator that's investigating the company
that my son's on the board of directors, Barisma, you're
not going to get this billion dollars in four and eight.
And then he comes back to this country and he
brags to the Council and Foreign Relations. You know, I
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told I forget the President's name, that you're not going
to get this billion dollars. And the President said, oh no,
you can't do that. He says, oh, you don't think
I can. You call Obama because you know I'm here
on his behalf and I'm not going to get the
money unless you fire the special that prosecutor. And he
comes back. Biden comes back to the Council on Foreigmulations
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and tells the CFR, well, son of a bitch, guess
what he did. He fired the prosecutor. I gave him money.
I got it on the plane, got on air Force too,
and I came back Putin wants that, And Putin said, oh,
this is a guy who has no cahones whatsoever. All
he cares about is whatever he needs to do that's
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going to benefit himself. So when he gets into office,
I shouldn't laugh, but when you think about it, it's
freaking hilarious. Putin strategically starts moving all of his forces
onto the Ukrainian border. The CIA knows it, reports it,
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we can see it. We cattle's bells, we saw the
satellite photographs. It was in the public domain. And Biden
said nothing or maybe the famous words don't, but Putin
already knew from history that don't didn't mean squat with
the Obama Biden presidency. So now the guy is older,
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more demented, just as weak, and it's too busy courting China,
so boom he moves in. What happens next? I think
what happens next is why where we are today? It's
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All of this can, to some degree or another, be
traced right back to what Biden says next. Hey, welcome
back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have
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It's at Michael Brown USA. The text line number is
thirty three one zero three keyworder Mike or Michael. So
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what did Biden do after what he thought might be
a minor incursion despite tens of thousands of troops on
the Ukrainian border? He told Putin don't and then Putin did?
And then what did Biden do next? I think the
next thing is what has gotten us to the point
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where we are today In a war, regardless of the aggressor,
regardless of which side of a war you were on,
the objective is to win or the objective is to
end it, win it or end it. You win it
by obliterating your enemy. You ended through a negotiation. The
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Korean War still going on? Did you know that? Yeah?
The Korean War is still going on. But of course
there's a armistice, there's a ceasefire, and we've got North
and South Korean, we've got a demilitarized zone. It happens
all the time. But that's not what Biden did. Biden
didn't say to Zelensky, Europeans didn't say to Zelensky, We'll
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give you what you need to win. We will do
whatever we need to do for you to win this
and stop this aggression. Instead, they said, we'll open our checkbook.
We'll give you whatever you need for as long as
you need it. No accountability, no strategic planning sessions, no advisors, nothing,
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just you, the former comedian, the former entertainer, now president
of Ukraine. You go conduct the war. You tell us
you know what you need, and we'll make the deposits
and molls can continue to make the deposits, continue to
ship the arms. Can you continue to ship the armaments.
We'll do whatever, regardless whether you're winning or losing, because
our promise is this, We'll just be with you as
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long as it takes. I'd like to have that deal.
I'd like to be able to have to deal. It says,
he'll just fund me for whatever my stupid idea is,
just as long as it takes, regardless of whether there's
any strategic objective to win, loser or come to a draw.
We'll just keep funding you forever. And we don't audit,
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we don't look at it. We don't ask where the
money is going, we don't ask what's the plan, we
don't do anything. Ask yourself, why would that be? Because
the cabal, the very military industrial complex that Dwight Eisenhower
warned us about, is making a fiefsies load of money
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off this war. And the Europeans know that Putin is
a threat, and so as long as we've got the
United States footing the bill, and we can make all
sorts of arguments. Look, I know that Trump trolls out
the figure three hundred and fifty billion, which I think
he has in his head, because when you add up
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what we've done and what the what the in what
NATO has done, you get close to three hundred and
fifty three hundred and sixty billion. Either we're one hundred
and fifty billion, in the Europeans a one hundred and
sixty billion, or vice versa. But it's it's all pretty much.
It's fairly close, close enough that when you're talking to
billions of dollars, it's okay, that's a rounding error. It's
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a horrible mistake to make. And so that draws Putin
closer to the North Koreans and the Chinese. Because even
though Zelenski has been able to prosecute the war in
trench warfare, just like World War One, just you know,
by meter inch by inch, foot by foot whatever. They're
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just slaughtering each other, literally slaughtering each other. North Korea,
because Kim Jong Hoon doesn't give a right ask about
his people, sends twelve fourteen thousand soldiers whatever it is
over and they just get completely wiped out, and he
will go, well, okay, we'll just send some more. Sizelensky's
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to the point where we've got fifty sixty and seventy
year olds fighting on the front lines. Russia is to
the point where they're now they've fifty thousand prisoners have
lost their lives, all seeking pardons. There are people who
have been promised twenty three thousand rubles enough to put
down for a down payment on a condor and what
(34:46):
they would call it a flat or an apartment, and
so they're doing that because and the families are just
waving them goodbye because they're getting the twenty three thousand
as the bonus, and the famili's like, yeah, okay, well
we you well, hey, it's called by the apartment. And
Putinskinn need the point where he's facing a domestic problem
of am I going to have to conscript people. So
(35:09):
Lensky's facing the same thing. This is a World War
one slaughterfest going on. And then we have the elections
in on November five, this country, by an overwhelming margin,
elects a new sheriff. Because we want all sorts of
things in this country to change. Our foreign relations, our
(35:33):
domestic affairs, we want everything to change because we know
the path we're on is not going to work. And
so Trump becomes and I've chosen this word purposely and carefully,
Trump now takes the position of a mediator. And I
(35:56):
think it's horrifically, incredibly whatever agitive I can put in
front of it important for you to understand that the
United States is now a mediator because we're trying to
stop the war because a majority of Americans don't want
boots on the ground. Oh people say, we'd love to
see we want to see Ukraine win, but we're not
(36:19):
willing to put the money up for it. We're not
willing to put the boots on the grounds to accomplish that.
The Europeans are the Europeans. If you listen closely, say
if you listen to Starmer and Macron, they say, oh yeah,
we'll put boots on the ground. Oh as long as
we get you Americans. Tobacco says a backstop, and Americans
are saying no, we don't want to do that. So
(36:41):
we have put Trump in the position to be an
a mediator. So what does that mean. That's next
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