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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mine dragon. Thank you for pointing all this rushing Ukrainians
to help. I've watched it all go down for years.
Just know that it's absolute proper waiting it out, absolute
thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're more than welcome. Is it strange that I kept
waiting for the other shoe to drop? I'm not used
to compliment an actual compliment without a butt backhand, yeah, right,
without a butt attached to it, right? Yeah, Well just
mark mark that one down for the ages. So here's
what I want to do first. I want to point
out that as we're speaking, as we're doing this program
right now, the cabal is in full more propagandizing Americans
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and people worldwide about how Trump really screwed this up
and it's going to be Trump is going to lead
us to World War three. I'm just I'm so sick
of them. Trump is the one mediator. So I'll I'm
going to do something that's a little odd. I'm going
to let you listen to some people that I wouldn't
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normally give the time of day two because they're well,
they're leftists. So if if I've got a leftist that
doesn't like Donald Trump or his policies, that is a
socialist but sees what Trump's doing here. Don't you think
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you had to pay attention to it? Now, by the
same token, I can probably find a leftist that because
they hate Donald Trump, uh, loves what's happening here because
it's the demise of Donald Trump. But they'll catch it
in terms of that. Oh my gosh, this is horrible
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for America. This is going to hurt America. It's going
to hurt America in the world. Well, you know what
you're I got. I have shocking news for you. The
globalists that head up the European Union. Well, let me
just back up. Why do you think the EU was formed?
Have you ever thought about why we have a European
Union and why there was a Brexit move in the
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UK to pull out of it because the European Union
their long term goal was to eventually create the United
States of Europe. Why would they want to do that? Well,
because they couldn't compete and they can't compete with us economically.
You go look at a list of the world's greatest
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GDPs and there we are on top of the heap.
And then you look at France, you look at Germany,
you look at Poland you look at any of the
European countries. They thought that by forming this EU, they
could become a competitive trade partner with US, and that
they could eventually overtake US and they could become a
world superpower. This whole purpose of the EU, you know,
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And to be a little cynical, it was also because
they could eliminate you know, it used to be and
in fact, I'm guilty of it. It was always great
to travel through Europe to collect all the different passport marks,
all the different passport stamps. You know, you travel from
Switzerland to Austria or Germany, or Germany into Switzerland and
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you'd you'd stop at you know, a port of entry
and you'd boom, you'd you know, if you're driving a car,
they come out, ask for your papers, you'll hand on
your passport, they'd stamp your passport and you move on
and you collected stamps. I got passports full of stamps
from all over the world. But they eliminated that in
the EU. I forget, I forget the name of the
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of the Agreement's got some funny name to it. But
do you know what the real purpose of that was,
So that any one country that was a member of
the EU could not stop the overflow of migration from
African and Middle Eastern countries. It was their open border
policy to allow all these migrants. And I'm using the
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term migrant because in the EU that is their term.
It's not illegal alien like it is in our federal statue.
So they wanted all this migration from these African and
Middle Eastern countries to swarm into their countries because well,
that's how you build up a social welfare state. You
bring in a bunch of people that need social welfare.
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So let's walk through some of the things that are
being said to help you understand that maybe you are
being propagandised. I want to first use George got Galloway.
He's a British politician, broadcaster. He is the leader of
the Workers Party of Britain. That's all you That's pretty
much all you need to know right there. He writes
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for I think The Guardian, and he is a he's
a hardcore leftist. He was on with Piers Morgan and
I want you to hear this conversation that he and
Peers Morgan have primarily because as a guy who doesn't
like Donald Trump says but here I like what Trump
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is doing.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's really come to something. When having spent a lifetime
myself fighting against NATO and American wars, it's the Americans
that are trying to stop the war and Piers Morgan,
Boris Johnson and Keir Starmer who are trying to keep
it going. Ukrainia, You've you've got a lot of Ukrainian
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blood on your hands. You have lied about this war.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
From the beginning.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
You have lied about the origin of this war, about
the duration of this war, about the course of this war,
and now having caused you and your war party that
death of a million Ukrainians, while claiming to love Ukrainians,
you're now calling for British to be lost. What constitutes that?
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Are constitutes close to a war crime. You're going to
regret it when very soon Zelenski is sitting in a
beachfront villa somewhere counting his ill gotten gains, and all
the secrets of the rampant corruption between the Democrats and
the Zelenski regime begin to tumble out of the cupboard.
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This war did not begin three years ago. You very
well know that it began in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You very well know that it began with.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
A coup against the elected president of Ukraine, backed by
Victorian Newland and the administration at that time and supported
by you. You very well know that the criminalization of
the Russian language, which followed hard on the heels of that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Coup, was the proximate reason for.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
An uprising in the east of the country amongst Russian speaking,
ethnically Russian people. You very well know that Zelenski and
his predecessor rained down, shot and shell on the people
East Ukraine for eight years before Puttin intervened in twenty
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twenty two and the fourteen thousand people, most of them
women and children, were killed in the onslaught.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You very well know.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That Zelenski was preparing for a final onslaught, a final solution.
And while I'm on that subject, you're always telling us
how much you love the Jews. You're supporting a regime
which puts up statues to Nazi collaborators, to generals of
the Galician division of the SS.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You are Jewish. You know he's Jewish, right, But.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's like saying there's no racism in America.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Obama, so Jewish Obama.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
So you're calling the Jewish leader of Ukraine and Nazis.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Is that your position.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's like saying there's no racism in America because Obama
was briefly the president of the country. The entire western
part of Ukraine played a decisive role in the mass
murder of Jews and Poles and others in the Second
World War. And now they are heroizing the heroes of
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the ESSs. Why doesn't why doesn't Donald Trump agree with you?
Why doesn't Why doesn't Donald.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Trump agree with you? Because he's wrong?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, you know, you have been up his us all
of these two decades, kissed his fly, You've licked his books,
You've fawned upon him.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Really, you have been his super a fan.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And now on this fundamental question of our age is
entirely wrong. Everybody watching knows you are Trump's biggest ass.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I like him watching.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I know you like him.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I like him like and on many things, on many things,
this isn't like him, and on.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Many mental questions.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Finish, the biggest question in politics in the world today,
He's got.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Ukraine was the most corrupt country Russian or designated by
the economy.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They were They were over talking each other there, but Galloway, Mitch,
you know, well, you like, but in this instance, I
like Donald Trump. So there, there, you there, there you
have a decidedly leftist person basically saying, you know what
what Donald Trump's trying to do here is to end
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this ethnic is to end this war. That's exactly what
Trump's trying to do. And because he happens to be
having to deal with Vladimir Putin on the other side.
You know, the one thing I noticed on the television
while those were playing is that Putin has announced that, hey,
we'll sell you rare earth minerals. We'll do that. Yeah,
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so he's already moving Putin toward the negotiating table by
simply offering to invest in Ukraine for their earth rare
earth minerals. Now Putin has decided, oh, well that's what
you want. Well, let's sit down and talk. Maybe we
actually can reach something. I would say, Wow, it's kind
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of interesting because if we buy rare earth elements from
both Russia and Ukraine, who does that isolate China? That
pushes China side. This is the three D chess that
I think Donald Trump is playing. Now let's go for
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a moment.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Two.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
We haven't talked about this guy much except I mentioned
him earlier because he and John McCain were a part
of this in Victoria, Newland from the Obama administration. We're
part of the original coup. They get all this started
back in twenty fourteen that led to the annexation of Crimea,
when all that Russia wanted was simply a twenty five
year lease on Savastapool so they could have a base there.
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But no, we weren't going to allow that, so we
just let them invade. Invade. But think about the contradictory
statement that is, we don't want you to have a
base there, so we're going to break off the negotiations
that you're having with the Ukrainians about establishing a base.
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So Russia says, okay, well we'll invade and we don't
do anything. That's that's the mother that said, as to
the kid, if you'll just be quiet, we'll give you.
We'll get you some ice cream later, or you throw
the fit on the floor, we'll give you the ice
cream now. So we just gave him Crimea. Just turn
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it over, absolutely turned it over. Lindsey Graham was one
of those people they kept advocating we need to go
to war. Let's let's get do let's do the coup,
Let's get let's get our own puppet in there. You
talk about a politician that has his finger or something
in the wind, it's Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
All right, but you sorry, Rim What I think a
complete utter disaster. I've been to Ukraine eight or nine
times since the war started. I understand the consequences of
Putin's actions against Ukraine. I appreciate what the Ukrainian people
have done. They fought like tigers. At the end of
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the day, I was hoping that this minerals deal, which
would be transformative in the relationship, would go overwhelm. I
talked to Zelenski this morning. Don't take debate. President Trump
was in a very good mood. Last night. Somebody asked me,
Am I embarrassed about Trump. I have never been more
proud of the president. I was very proud of JD.
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Evans standing up for our country. We want to be helpful.
What I saw in the Oval office was disrespectful, and
I don't know if we can ever do business with
Zolensky again. Don't I think most Americans saw a guy
that they would not want to go in business with
the way he handled the meeting, the way he confronted
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the president was just over the top. So I think
the relationship between Ukraine and America is important, vitally important.
But can Zelinski do a deal with the United States
after what I saw?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I don't know, you that reminded me of I can
remember as a kid being on a cattle ranch, be
out with some rancher and we'd be out, maybe hunting
or whatever. I mean, he's stopping to check some cattle
where you know, he's got a big water tank and
a windmill. And I'll look up at the windmill and
it'll be slightly blowing in the breeze, and we know
there's a cold front moving through. And suddenly the cold
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front moves through, and you can hear the windmill just loom,
spin around and go the opposite direction because the the
front just moved through. That's Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham's just
a windmill. Marco Rubio took two. Good for him. CNN
Caitlin Collins, who was in the room when this meeting
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blew up, is desperate to get Rubio to say what
a screw up it was for the country.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Well, what specifically do you want to see President Zelenski
apologize for.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Apologize for turning this thing into the fiasco for him
that it became. There was no need for him to
go in there and become antagonistic. Look, this thing went
off the rails.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You were there.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
I believe it went off the rails when he said,
let me ask you a question to the vice president,
what kind of diplomacy are you talking about? Well, this
is a serious thing. I mean thousands of people have
been killed, thousands, and he talks about all these horrible
things that have happened to prisoners of war and children,
all true, all bad. This is what we're dealing with here.
It needs to come to an end. We are trying
to bring it.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
To an end.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
The way you bring it to an end is you
get Russia to the table to talk. And he understands
that attacking Putin, no matter how anyone may feel about him, personally,
forcing the president into a position where you're trying to
go to him into attacking Putin, calling him names, maximalist
demands about Russia having to pay for the reconstruction, all
the sorts of things that you talk about in the negotiation.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Well, when you.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Start talking about that aggressively, and the president's a deal maker,
he's made deals his entire life, you're not going to
get people to the table, and so you start to
perceive that maybe Zelenski doesn't want a peace deal. He
says he does, but maybe he doesn't. And that active,
open undermining of efforts to bring about peace is deeply
frustra trading for everyone who's been involved in communications with
them leading up to today. And I think, thank you,
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you'll apologize for wasting our time for a meeting that
was going to end the way it did.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Now she has another question. Before we move on to
the next question, I want you to think about this.
He Rubio is exactly right. So Putin is making certain demands,
but he's not at the table yet. Zelensky is making
certain demands also, he calls them maximalist demands, which are
going to go nowhere, But you don't discuss those in
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open because nobody's at the table yet. And if Trump
goes out and starts belittling Vladimir Putin publicly, there is
no incentive whatsoever for Putin to come to the table.
So he's not going to do that. Trump's smart enough
to know. Yeah, I may think that Putin's a dictator.
I may think Zelensky's a dictator. I may think a
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bunch of you are big a holes, but I'm not
going to say that publicly right now. In fact, what
did he do when he was asked by a reporter
if he did you really call Vladimir or the Littimore
uh Zelensky a dictator? What why? I can't believe I
said that. Really, I can't believe I said that. Next question,
you know, so he starts immediate, starts downplay why because
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he knows exactly what he's doing here. I know many
people are convinced from the media that he has no
clue what he's doing. I think I'm convinced he knows
precisely what he's doing. Rubio continues with Caitlan Collins after this.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Brownie, I ain't gonna make funny or dyslexia.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'm a nice fella.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
I like you.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, I find that scary. See more compliments. It just
feels weird. It's very weird. So Rubio is on with
Caitlin Collins on CNN and explaining that look, this guy
shows up, he disrespects the president. We had an agreement.
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He virtually destroys the agreement, and he needs to apologize.
We're simply trying to end this war.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Thank you so much, Secretary of Rubio for being here.
We just heard from President Zelenski. He said he does
not think that he owes President Trump an apology for
what happened inside the Oval Office today. Do you feel otherwise?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I do.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I do, because you guys don't see. You guys only
saw the end. You saw what happened today. You don't
see all the things that led up to this. So
let me explain. The President's been very clear. He campaigned
on this. He thinks this war should have never started.
He believes, and I agreed that had he been president,
it never would have happened. Now here we are, he's
trying to bring an end to this conflict. We've explained
very clearly what our plan is here, which is we
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want to get the Russians to a negotiating table. We
want to explore whether peace is possible. If they understand this,
they also understand.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Don't gloss over that. We want to find out whether
or not piece is even possible. You can't have peace
unless both sides agree to stop killing each other or
somebody wins. My question is do you want to win?
Do you? Because Ukraine cannot win on its own. Ukraine's
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going to require not just armaments and munitions from US,
but they're going to require boots on the ground. They
don't have the people to do it. Even if there
was a negotiated settlement. I'm not sure that Ukraine can
keep that settlement and keep pooting at Bay without some
boots on the ground. And in fact Starmar's already promised
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that we'll get to that in a minute. But don't
gloss over the idea that we're somehow near a peace agreement.
We're not.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
The prices has been very clear. He can't paign on this.
He thinks this war should have never started. He believes,
and I agreed that had he been president, it never
would have happened. Now here we are, he's trying to
bring an end to this conflict. We've explained very clearly
what our plan is here, which is we want to
get the Russians to a negotiating table. We want to
explore whether peace is possible. They understand this. They also
understand that this agreement that was supposed to be signed
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today was supposed to be an agreement that binds America
economically to Ukraine, which to me, as I've explained, and
I think the President alluded to today, is a security
guarantee in its own way. Because we're involved, it's now us,
it's our interests. That was all explained, that was all understood,
and nonetheless, for the last ten days and every engagement
we've had with the Ukrainians, there's been complications in getting
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that point across, including the public statements that President Zelenski
has made. But they insisted on coming to DC. This
agreement could have been signed five days ago, but they
insisted on coming to Washington, and it was.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
A very again, don't gloss over. Scott Bissent took the
agreement to Kiev on his own and said, we're here
to sign. We've got it. You are making minor changes.
I'm empowered by the President to make some minor changes,
but this is the framework of the deal. You want
to do it. And what did he do? He slept in.
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Zelenski slept in and showed up late for the meeting.
It's almost as if you really do want to keep
the war going, which means it's almost as if you
really do have a grift going here, and you really
are collecting money somewhere on the side, you're somehow skimming
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off the top, you're somehow wanting this to keep going.
Either that or he's so paralyzed by fear that he
has no idea what to do because he knows that
if there's a negotiated settlement and then there's another election,
he's more likely than not to lose the next election.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Perry and should have been a very clear understanding, don't
come here and create a such scenario where you're going
to start lecturing us about how diplomacy is going to work.
As President Zelenski took it in that direction and it
ended in a predictable outcome as a result. It's unfortunate
that one's supposed to be this way, but that's the
path he chose, and I think, frankly, you know, the
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country backwards in regards to achieving peace, which is what
President Trump wants at the end of the day, is
for this war to end. He's been as consistent as
anyone can be about what his objective.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Is here to end the war. Now, let's go to
the cabal. So what's the cabal doing. They're running over
to the Democrats who Democrats and Republicans met with Zelenski
before the White House meeting. Where's the readout of that meeting?
Is there? Was there a transcript? Was it recorded? I'd
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like to see the discussion in that meeting because now
this morning on CNN you've got this crap occurring.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
And again, I know you voted to confirm a former
Senator Marco Ruveo, your former as Secretary of State. If
you can still hear me, I see you adjusting your earpiece.
How do you feel about your vote to confirm Senator
Rubio as Secretary?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Now, well, I regret that vote because you know, when
it was Senator Rubyo, Senator Rubio was somebody who understood
that Putin was the aggressor and the Russians were the aggressor.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
He didn't go around calling Zelenski dictator. But it seems
like he's had a you know, a total lobotomy or
heart transplant. I don't know what it is. But first
of all, he allowed Elon Musk essentially to take over
the operations of the state.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Get Elon Musk into this. He allowed Elon Musk to
take over the state Department. You know, I think what
we ought to do is we ought to call, like
Orkin some pest control company and just you know that
that's what the state, That's what Foggy Bottom needs. Foggy
Bottom just needs all the cock roaches out of the
State Department because Marco Rubio is going to have to
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fight off all the cockroaches in order to get this
president's agenda actually carried out by all the yahoo's that
have been at Foggy Bottom for decades.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
State Department. We saw how they're trying to dismantle AID
that was an Elon Musk initiative, and now he is
just parroting Donald Trump. Now, if that's why he took
on the job, just to do the Dear Leader thing
with Donald Trump, then I'm extremely disappointed. But that seems
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to be their direction that he's had it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Do you listen, really, do you listen, Dear Leader, that's
a Hitler reference. Yes, so Senator Chris van Holland of
Maryland is calling Trump Hitler, and I guess Rubio is
just Girbels just you know, parroting whatever it is that
Dear Leader says. This is how to speak a these people,
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are they truly are back to Rubio. So Rubio also
talked to Catherine Harriage about what was this pre oval meeting,
what took place in that bilateral meeting that Trump referenced.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
I think President Trump is very upset at President Zelensky
in some case, and rightfully so. Look, Number one, Joe
Biden had frustrations with Zelensky. People shouldn't forget that. There
are newspaper articles out there about how he cursed at
him in a phone call. Because Lelensky, instead of saying
thank you for all your help, is immediately out there
messaging what we're not doing or what he's not getting.
I think the second thing is Frankly, I was personally
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very upset because we had a conversation with President Zelenski,
the Vice President and I to two three of us,
and we discussed this issue about the mineral rights. So
we explained to them, look, we want to be a
joint venture with you, not because we're trying to steal
from your country, but because we think that's actually a
security guarantee. If we're your partner in an important economic endeavor,
we get to get paid back some of the money
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the taxpayers have given close to two hundred billion dollars.
And it also now we have a vested interest in
the security of Ukraine. And he said, sure, we want
to do this deal. It makes all the sense in
the world. The only thing is I need to run
it to my legislative process.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
They have to approve it.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
I read two days later that Zelenski's out there saying
I rejected the deal. I told him no way, that
we're not doing that. Well, that's not what happened in
that meeting. So you start to get upset by somebody.
We're trying to help these guys. One of the points
that President made in his messaging is not that we
don't care about Ukraine. But Ukraine is on another continent.
You know, it doesn't directly impact the daily lives of Americans.
We care about it because it has implications for our
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allies and ultimately for the world. There should be some
level of gratitude here about this. And when you don't
see it, and you see him out there accusing the
president of living in a world of disinformation, that's highly,
very counterproductive. And I don't need to explain to you
or anybody else. Donald Trump's not the president. Trump's not
the kind of person that's going to sit there and
take that. He's very transparent, he's going to tell you
exactly how he feels, and he sent the message that
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he's not going to get gained here. He's willing to
work on peace because he cares about you, and he
hopes Lensky will be a partner in that. And that's
someone who's out there putting the sort of counter messaging
to try to, you know, hustle us in that regard,
and that's not that's not going to be productive.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Here and hustling us exactly what's going on? So what
does the Lensky do? Zelensky gets kicked out of the
White House. Uh, And so he jumps on a plane
and he hurries off to London where he's greeted by
here starmer.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Let me just say that it will very very welcome
here in Downing Street.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Competitive be here, and really I saw a lot of
people and I wanted to thank you people love the
United Kingdom and such big support from the very beginning
of the school. Thank you your team for happy did
have such such looks, such fantastic thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
And that's all side of it. In the next few
days to join us today.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And so we're going to sign this package night. We're
gonna give you two billion dollars.
Speaker 10 (28:09):
And the stakes couldn't be higher for The summit to
take place on Sunday, hosted by British Prime Minister Kirstama,
will bring together leaders across Europe and we'll tackle urgent
questions looming over the war in Ukraine. How will Europe
continue supporting Kief and how will the blog stand up
to Moscow. The meeting comes on the heels of a
huated exchange on Friday between Donald Trump and Vladimir Zelensky
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in the Oval Office that dashed hopes that Ukraine could
count on the US going forward. German Foreign Minister and
Alena Beerbach to a new era had begun in its wake.
Speaker 11 (28:43):
Our horror is greater today than before, but so is
our commitment to the people of Ukraine, to our security
and to peace in Europe Friday evening, underlying that a
new era of nefariousness has begun, a nefarious time in
which we must defend is the rules based international order.
Speaker 10 (29:01):
The most pressing question is how Europe would take on
the burden of supporting Kiev if Washington cuts off its funding.
Ukraine has so far survived in large part thanks to
more than tens of billions of US military aid under
then President Joe Biden, but the flow of US weapons
to Ukraine has nearly stopped and could imminently end completely,
with Trump insisting on payback for the aid. Trump has
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also ruled out providing security guarantees for Ukraine, which is
at the heart of demands made by Kiev and its allies.
The host of Sunday Summit, the UK has pledged to
play its part in ensuring a lasting piece steal on
Ukraine's terms, announcing plans to increase its defense spending by
two point five percent by twenty twenty seven. As Kiev's
allies weighed uncharted waters, they agree that the cost of
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Ukraine losing the war will be exponentially higher for Europe
than the alternative.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So they're going to increase their spending two years from now.
It had taken them two years to get up to
even two and a half percent, half of what Trump
has told them they need to get to five percent
of their GDP. Who's the bad guy here, It's not
Donald Trump, It's the Europeans and Zelenski, but in particular
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the Europeans who truly do hate us.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Hey, Michael, Yeah, I worked for a company that we
had a meeting with our English and French and Dutch
counterparts years ago, and they went to great lengths improving
that we had. They had a greater GP than the
United States did. The big problem was that took them
twice as many people to do it. That was pointed
out in the meeting, and they didn't have much to say.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
So Ryan, if he's a way, Ryan, you left your
text message. By the way, remember our text message line
is thirty three one zero three. I was scrolling through
the other number. That's not my number anymore. Don't text
me on that other number. But I'm looking at those
text messages, and one of them to Ryan on at
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the end of last week says, Ryan, what people want
is for Trump to call Putin the dictator. He is
not Zelensky. Trump is more of a dictator than Zelensky.
Putin has got Trump in his pocket. Really, how the
hell do you figure that? Trump said numerous times, I'm
not going to sit here and call Vladimir Putin, you know,
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a dirt bag when I'm trying to get him to
the table to help save your country. Anyway, I'm not
going to chase that squirrel. But I want to end
the show by pointing out that I love Europe. I
mean I really do. I love traveling in Europe. Uh
it's culturally significant, it's a wonderful place to visit. But
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the problem is that most Europeans don't respect Americans, yet
they rely on us for their security. Well, they run
off doing their social experiments, whether that's a social welfare
state or it's the Green New Deal, and they just
emasculate their economies and expect us to protect them when
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the feces hits the fan. Maybe we're not as sophisticated,
I mean, maybe we're not as cultured as Europeans, but
we're not stupid. And I know that Europeans look down
on us, and I know that Europeans think they're better
than us. Maybe they are in some ways. They work less,
they get they get more vacation time than we do.
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They have a magnificent culture. I get it, but so
do we, and we work for we have a different
work ethic. But any relationship on which side does not
respect the other side cannot last, you know, the Harvard
Harris Pole shows. Here's the question, do you want Ukraine
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to continue the war against Russia or negotiate to settlement
russ seventy two percent want us to negotiate a settlement.
Only twenty eight percent of Americans went to continue the war.
Do you favor or oppose Donald Trump announcing direct US
Russian negotiations to end the war in Ukraine? Sixty percent
say yes. Forty percent are opposed to that. So when
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Zelenski comes to the White House and kind of acts
like he can tell us what we should do, he
doesn't get the relationship. Ukraine is not part of NATO.
The idea that we Americans are somehow in the hook,
including for countries not in NATO, that was never the deal.
We're not obligated to protect Ukraine. Do we have an
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Do we have an obligation anywhere there's conflict if we
can to try to deconflict the conflict. Yeah, I think
we do, because we are the most powerful nation on
the earth, at least for now we are. After he
left the White House, Zelenski moniacally reposted on x all
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the different affirmations of support for Ukraine from European leaders, great,
then go work with them. I don't think Europeans understand
what America is dealing with. We got Chinese and Mexican
fentanyl and methamphetamine. Mafia is working together to kill more
than one hundred thousand of our citizens every year. Our
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kids aren't learning to read, they can't do math. We
got thousands of vetters of PTSD who are hurting. We've
been at war in the Middle East for a quarter
of a century. It's been eighty years since we bailed out.
Europe doesn't really have its own military. It does have
its own nuclear weapons, that's about it. We got to
recognize that Europe. Do you think you're so tough, you
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think you can do it on your own? What are
you gonna do when you come crying to us
Mine dragon. Thank you for pointing all this rushing Ukrainians
to help. I've watched it all go down for years.
Just know that it's absolute proper waiting it out, absolute
thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're more than welcome. Is it strange that I kept
waiting for the other shoe to drop? I'm not used
to compliment an actual compliment without a butt backhand, yeah, right,
without a butt attached to it, right? Yeah, Well just
mark mark that one down for the ages. So here's
what I want to do first. I want to point
out that as we're speaking, as we're doing this program
right now, the cabal is in full more propagandizing Americans
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and people worldwide about how Trump really screwed this up
and it's going to be Trump is going to lead
us to World War three. I'm just I'm so sick
of them. Trump is the one mediator. So I'll I'm
going to do something that's a little odd. I'm going
to let you listen to some people that I wouldn't
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normally give the time of day two because they're well,
they're leftists. So if if I've got a leftist that
doesn't like Donald Trump or his policies, that is a
socialist but sees what Trump's doing here. Don't you think
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you had to pay attention to it? Now, by the
same token, I can probably find a leftist that because
they hate Donald Trump, uh, loves what's happening here because
it's the demise of Donald Trump. But they'll catch it
in terms of that. Oh my gosh, this is horrible
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for America. This is going to hurt America. It's going
to hurt America in the world. Well, you know what
you're I got. I have shocking news for you. The
globalists that head up the European Union. Well, let me
just back up. Why do you think the EU was formed?
Have you ever thought about why we have a European
Union and why there was a Brexit move in the
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UK to pull out of it because the European Union
their long term goal was to eventually create the United
States of Europe. Why would they want to do that? Well,
because they couldn't compete and they can't compete with us economically.
You go look at a list of the world's greatest
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GDPs and there we are on top of the heap.
And then you look at France, you look at Germany,
you look at Poland you look at any of the
European countries. They thought that by forming this EU, they
could become a competitive trade partner with US, and that
they could eventually overtake US and they could become a
world superpower. This whole purpose of the EU, you know,
(03:00):
And to be a little cynical, it was also because
they could eliminate you know, it used to be and
in fact, I'm guilty of it. It was always great
to travel through Europe to collect all the different passport marks,
all the different passport stamps. You know, you travel from
Switzerland to Austria or Germany, or Germany into Switzerland and
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you'd you'd stop at you know, a port of entry
and you'd boom, you'd you know, if you're driving a car,
they come out, ask for your papers, you'll hand on
your passport, they'd stamp your passport and you move on
and you collected stamps. I got passports full of stamps
from all over the world. But they eliminated that in
the EU. I forget, I forget the name of the
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of the Agreement's got some funny name to it. But
do you know what the real purpose of that was,
So that any one country that was a member of
the EU could not stop the overflow of migration from
African and Middle Eastern countries. It was their open border
policy to allow all these migrants. And I'm using the
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term migrant because in the EU that is their term.
It's not illegal alien like it is in our federal statue.
So they wanted all this migration from these African and
Middle Eastern countries to swarm into their countries because well,
that's how you build up a social welfare state. You
bring in a bunch of people that need social welfare.
(04:32):
So let's walk through some of the things that are
being said to help you understand that maybe you are
being propagandised. I want to first use George got Galloway.
He's a British politician, broadcaster. He is the leader of
the Workers Party of Britain. That's all you That's pretty
much all you need to know right there. He writes
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for I think The Guardian, and he is a he's
a hardcore leftist. He was on with Piers Morgan and
I want you to hear this conversation that he and
Peers Morgan have primarily because as a guy who doesn't
like Donald Trump says but here I like what Trump
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is doing.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's really come to something. When having spent a lifetime
myself fighting against NATO and American wars, it's the Americans
that are trying to stop the war and Piers Morgan,
Boris Johnson and Keir Starmer who are trying to keep
it going. Ukrainia, You've you've got a lot of Ukrainian
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blood on your hands. You have lied about this war.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
From the beginning.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
You have lied about the origin of this war, about
the duration of this war, about the course of this war,
and now having caused you and your war party that
death of a million Ukrainians, while claiming to love Ukrainians,
you're now calling for British to be lost. What constitutes that?
(06:11):
Are constitutes close to a war crime. You're going to
regret it when very soon Zelenski is sitting in a
beachfront villa somewhere counting his ill gotten gains, and all
the secrets of the rampant corruption between the Democrats and
the Zelenski regime begin to tumble out of the cupboard.
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This war did not begin three years ago. You very
well know that it began in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You very well know that it began with.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
A coup against the elected president of Ukraine, backed by
Victorian Newland and the administration at that time and supported
by you. You very well know that the criminalization of
the Russian language, which followed hard on the heels of that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Coup, was the proximate reason for.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
An uprising in the east of the country amongst Russian speaking,
ethnically Russian people. You very well know that Zelenski and
his predecessor rained down, shot and shell on the people
East Ukraine for eight years before Puttin intervened in twenty
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twenty two and the fourteen thousand people, most of them
women and children, were killed in the onslaught.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You very well know.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That Zelenski was preparing for a final onslaught, a final solution.
And while I'm on that subject, you're always telling us
how much you love the Jews. You're supporting a regime
which puts up statues to Nazi collaborators, to generals of
the Galician division of the SS.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You are Jewish. You know he's Jewish, right, But.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's like saying there's no racism in America.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Obama, so Jewish Obama.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
So you're calling the Jewish leader of Ukraine and Nazis.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Is that your position.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's like saying there's no racism in America because Obama
was briefly the president of the country. The entire western
part of Ukraine played a decisive role in the mass
murder of Jews and Poles and others in the Second
World War. And now they are heroizing the heroes of
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the ESSs. Why doesn't why doesn't Donald Trump agree with you?
Why doesn't Why doesn't Donald.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Trump agree with you? Because he's wrong?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, you know, you have been up his us all
of these two decades, kissed his fly, You've licked his books,
You've fawned upon him.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Really, you have been his super a fan.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And now on this fundamental question of our age is
entirely wrong. Everybody watching knows you are Trump's biggest ass.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I like him watching.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I know you like him.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I like him like and on many things, on many things,
this isn't like him, and on.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Many mental questions.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Finish, the biggest question in politics in the world today,
He's got.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Ukraine was the most corrupt country Russian or designated by
the economy.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They were They were over talking each other there, but Galloway, Mitch,
you know, well, you like, but in this instance, I
like Donald Trump. So there, there, you there, there you
have a decidedly leftist person basically saying, you know what
what Donald Trump's trying to do here is to end
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this ethnic is to end this war. That's exactly what
Trump's trying to do. And because he happens to be
having to deal with Vladimir Putin on the other side.
You know, the one thing I noticed on the television
while those were playing is that Putin has announced that, hey,
we'll sell you rare earth minerals. We'll do that. Yeah,
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so he's already moving Putin toward the negotiating table by
simply offering to invest in Ukraine for their earth rare
earth minerals. Now Putin has decided, oh, well that's what
you want. Well, let's sit down and talk. Maybe we
actually can reach something. I would say, Wow, it's kind
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of interesting because if we buy rare earth elements from
both Russia and Ukraine, who does that isolate China? That
pushes China side. This is the three D chess that
I think Donald Trump is playing. Now let's go for
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a moment.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Two.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
We haven't talked about this guy much except I mentioned
him earlier because he and John McCain were a part
of this in Victoria, Newland from the Obama administration. We're
part of the original coup. They get all this started
back in twenty fourteen that led to the annexation of Crimea,
when all that Russia wanted was simply a twenty five
year lease on Savastapool so they could have a base there.
(11:32):
But no, we weren't going to allow that, so we
just let them invade. Invade. But think about the contradictory
statement that is, we don't want you to have a
base there, so we're going to break off the negotiations
that you're having with the Ukrainians about establishing a base.
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So Russia says, okay, well we'll invade and we don't
do anything. That's that's the mother that said, as to
the kid, if you'll just be quiet, we'll give you.
We'll get you some ice cream later, or you throw
the fit on the floor, we'll give you the ice
cream now. So we just gave him Crimea. Just turn
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it over, absolutely turned it over. Lindsey Graham was one
of those people they kept advocating we need to go
to war. Let's let's get do let's do the coup,
Let's get let's get our own puppet in there. You
talk about a politician that has his finger or something
in the wind, it's Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
All right, but you sorry, Rim What I think a
complete utter disaster. I've been to Ukraine eight or nine
times since the war started. I understand the consequences of
Putin's actions against Ukraine. I appreciate what the Ukrainian people
have done. They fought like tigers. At the end of
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the day, I was hoping that this minerals deal, which
would be transformative in the relationship, would go overwhelm. I
talked to Zelenski this morning. Don't take debate. President Trump
was in a very good mood. Last night. Somebody asked me,
Am I embarrassed about Trump. I have never been more
proud of the president. I was very proud of JD.
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Evans standing up for our country. We want to be helpful.
What I saw in the Oval office was disrespectful, and
I don't know if we can ever do business with
Zolensky again. Don't I think most Americans saw a guy
that they would not want to go in business with
the way he handled the meeting, the way he confronted
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the president was just over the top. So I think
the relationship between Ukraine and America is important, vitally important.
But can Zelinski do a deal with the United States
after what I saw?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I don't know, you that reminded me of I can
remember as a kid being on a cattle ranch, be
out with some rancher and we'd be out, maybe hunting
or whatever. I mean, he's stopping to check some cattle
where you know, he's got a big water tank and
a windmill. And I'll look up at the windmill and
it'll be slightly blowing in the breeze, and we know
there's a cold front moving through. And suddenly the cold
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front moves through, and you can hear the windmill just loom,
spin around and go the opposite direction because the the
front just moved through. That's Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham's just
a windmill. Marco Rubio took two. Good for him. CNN
Caitlin Collins, who was in the room when this meeting
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blew up, is desperate to get Rubio to say what
a screw up it was for the country.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Well, what specifically do you want to see President Zelenski
apologize for.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Apologize for turning this thing into the fiasco for him
that it became. There was no need for him to
go in there and become antagonistic. Look, this thing went
off the rails.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You were there.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
I believe it went off the rails when he said,
let me ask you a question to the vice president,
what kind of diplomacy are you talking about? Well, this
is a serious thing. I mean thousands of people have
been killed, thousands, and he talks about all these horrible
things that have happened to prisoners of war and children,
all true, all bad. This is what we're dealing with here.
It needs to come to an end. We are trying
to bring it.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
To an end.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
The way you bring it to an end is you
get Russia to the table to talk. And he understands
that attacking Putin, no matter how anyone may feel about him, personally,
forcing the president into a position where you're trying to
go to him into attacking Putin, calling him names, maximalist
demands about Russia having to pay for the reconstruction, all
the sorts of things that you talk about in the negotiation.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Well, when you.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Start talking about that aggressively, and the president's a deal maker,
he's made deals his entire life, you're not going to
get people to the table, and so you start to
perceive that maybe Zelenski doesn't want a peace deal. He
says he does, but maybe he doesn't. And that active,
open undermining of efforts to bring about peace is deeply
frustra trading for everyone who's been involved in communications with
them leading up to today. And I think, thank you,
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you'll apologize for wasting our time for a meeting that
was going to end the way it did.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Now she has another question. Before we move on to
the next question, I want you to think about this.
He Rubio is exactly right. So Putin is making certain demands,
but he's not at the table yet. Zelensky is making
certain demands also, he calls them maximalist demands, which are
going to go nowhere, But you don't discuss those in
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open because nobody's at the table yet. And if Trump
goes out and starts belittling Vladimir Putin publicly, there is
no incentive whatsoever for Putin to come to the table.
So he's not going to do that. Trump's smart enough
to know. Yeah, I may think that Putin's a dictator.
I may think Zelensky's a dictator. I may think a
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bunch of you are big a holes, but I'm not
going to say that publicly right now. In fact, what
did he do when he was asked by a reporter
if he did you really call Vladimir or the Littimore
uh Zelensky a dictator? What why? I can't believe I
said that. Really, I can't believe I said that. Next question,
you know, so he starts immediate, starts downplay why because
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he knows exactly what he's doing here. I know many
people are convinced from the media that he has no
clue what he's doing. I think I'm convinced he knows
precisely what he's doing. Rubio continues with Caitlan Collins after this.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Brownie, I ain't gonna make funny or dyslexia.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'm a nice fella.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
I like you.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, I find that scary. See more compliments. It just
feels weird. It's very weird. So Rubio is on with
Caitlin Collins on CNN and explaining that look, this guy
shows up, he disrespects the president. We had an agreement.
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He virtually destroys the agreement, and he needs to apologize.
We're simply trying to end this war.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Thank you so much, Secretary of Rubio for being here.
We just heard from President Zelenski. He said he does
not think that he owes President Trump an apology for
what happened inside the Oval Office today. Do you feel otherwise?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I do.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I do, because you guys don't see. You guys only
saw the end. You saw what happened today. You don't
see all the things that led up to this. So
let me explain. The President's been very clear. He campaigned
on this. He thinks this war should have never started.
He believes, and I agreed that had he been president,
it never would have happened. Now here we are, he's
trying to bring an end to this conflict. We've explained
very clearly what our plan is here, which is we
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want to get the Russians to a negotiating table. We
want to explore whether peace is possible. If they understand this,
they also understand.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Don't gloss over that. We want to find out whether
or not piece is even possible. You can't have peace
unless both sides agree to stop killing each other or
somebody wins. My question is do you want to win?
Do you? Because Ukraine cannot win on its own. Ukraine's
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going to require not just armaments and munitions from US,
but they're going to require boots on the ground. They
don't have the people to do it. Even if there
was a negotiated settlement. I'm not sure that Ukraine can
keep that settlement and keep pooting at Bay without some
boots on the ground. And in fact Starmar's already promised
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that we'll get to that in a minute. But don't
gloss over the idea that we're somehow near a peace agreement.
We're not.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
The prices has been very clear. He can't paign on this.
He thinks this war should have never started. He believes,
and I agreed that had he been president, it never
would have happened. Now here we are, he's trying to
bring an end to this conflict. We've explained very clearly
what our plan is here, which is we want to
get the Russians to a negotiating table. We want to
explore whether peace is possible. They understand this. They also
understand that this agreement that was supposed to be signed
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today was supposed to be an agreement that binds America
economically to Ukraine, which to me, as I've explained, and
I think the President alluded to today, is a security
guarantee in its own way. Because we're involved, it's now us,
it's our interests. That was all explained, that was all understood,
and nonetheless, for the last ten days and every engagement
we've had with the Ukrainians, there's been complications in getting
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that point across, including the public statements that President Zelenski
has made. But they insisted on coming to DC. This
agreement could have been signed five days ago, but they
insisted on coming to Washington, and it was.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
A very again, don't gloss over. Scott Bissent took the
agreement to Kiev on his own and said, we're here
to sign. We've got it. You are making minor changes.
I'm empowered by the President to make some minor changes,
but this is the framework of the deal. You want
to do it. And what did he do? He slept in.
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Zelenski slept in and showed up late for the meeting.
It's almost as if you really do want to keep
the war going, which means it's almost as if you
really do have a grift going here, and you really
are collecting money somewhere on the side, you're somehow skimming
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off the top, you're somehow wanting this to keep going.
Either that or he's so paralyzed by fear that he
has no idea what to do because he knows that
if there's a negotiated settlement and then there's another election,
he's more likely than not to lose the next election.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Perry and should have been a very clear understanding, don't
come here and create a such scenario where you're going
to start lecturing us about how diplomacy is going to work.
As President Zelenski took it in that direction and it
ended in a predictable outcome as a result. It's unfortunate
that one's supposed to be this way, but that's the
path he chose, and I think, frankly, you know, the
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country backwards in regards to achieving peace, which is what
President Trump wants at the end of the day, is
for this war to end. He's been as consistent as
anyone can be about what his objective.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Is here to end the war. Now, let's go to
the cabal. So what's the cabal doing. They're running over
to the Democrats who Democrats and Republicans met with Zelenski
before the White House meeting. Where's the readout of that meeting?
Is there? Was there a transcript? Was it recorded? I'd
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like to see the discussion in that meeting because now
this morning on CNN you've got this crap occurring.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
And again, I know you voted to confirm a former
Senator Marco Ruveo, your former as Secretary of State. If
you can still hear me, I see you adjusting your earpiece.
How do you feel about your vote to confirm Senator
Rubio as Secretary?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Now, well, I regret that vote because you know, when
it was Senator Rubyo, Senator Rubio was somebody who understood
that Putin was the aggressor and the Russians were the aggressor.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
He didn't go around calling Zelenski dictator. But it seems
like he's had a you know, a total lobotomy or
heart transplant. I don't know what it is. But first
of all, he allowed Elon Musk essentially to take over
the operations of the state.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Get Elon Musk into this. He allowed Elon Musk to
take over the state Department. You know, I think what
we ought to do is we ought to call, like
Orkin some pest control company and just you know that
that's what the state, That's what Foggy Bottom needs. Foggy
Bottom just needs all the cock roaches out of the
State Department because Marco Rubio is going to have to
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fight off all the cockroaches in order to get this
president's agenda actually carried out by all the yahoo's that
have been at Foggy Bottom for decades.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
State Department. We saw how they're trying to dismantle AID
that was an Elon Musk initiative, and now he is
just parroting Donald Trump. Now, if that's why he took
on the job, just to do the Dear Leader thing
with Donald Trump, then I'm extremely disappointed. But that seems
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to be their direction that he's had it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Do you listen, really, do you listen, Dear Leader, that's
a Hitler reference. Yes, so Senator Chris van Holland of
Maryland is calling Trump Hitler, and I guess Rubio is
just Girbels just you know, parroting whatever it is that
Dear Leader says. This is how to speak a these people,
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are they truly are back to Rubio. So Rubio also
talked to Catherine Harriage about what was this pre oval meeting,
what took place in that bilateral meeting that Trump referenced.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
I think President Trump is very upset at President Zelensky
in some case, and rightfully so. Look, Number one, Joe
Biden had frustrations with Zelensky. People shouldn't forget that. There
are newspaper articles out there about how he cursed at
him in a phone call. Because Lelensky, instead of saying
thank you for all your help, is immediately out there
messaging what we're not doing or what he's not getting.
I think the second thing is Frankly, I was personally
(25:37):
very upset because we had a conversation with President Zelenski,
the Vice President and I to two three of us,
and we discussed this issue about the mineral rights. So
we explained to them, look, we want to be a
joint venture with you, not because we're trying to steal
from your country, but because we think that's actually a
security guarantee. If we're your partner in an important economic endeavor,
we get to get paid back some of the money
(25:57):
the taxpayers have given close to two hundred billion dollars.
And it also now we have a vested interest in
the security of Ukraine. And he said, sure, we want
to do this deal. It makes all the sense in
the world. The only thing is I need to run
it to my legislative process.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
They have to approve it.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
I read two days later that Zelenski's out there saying
I rejected the deal. I told him no way, that
we're not doing that. Well, that's not what happened in
that meeting. So you start to get upset by somebody.
We're trying to help these guys. One of the points
that President made in his messaging is not that we
don't care about Ukraine. But Ukraine is on another continent.
You know, it doesn't directly impact the daily lives of Americans.
We care about it because it has implications for our
(26:35):
allies and ultimately for the world. There should be some
level of gratitude here about this. And when you don't
see it, and you see him out there accusing the
president of living in a world of disinformation, that's highly,
very counterproductive. And I don't need to explain to you
or anybody else. Donald Trump's not the president. Trump's not
the kind of person that's going to sit there and
take that. He's very transparent, he's going to tell you
exactly how he feels, and he sent the message that
(26:56):
he's not going to get gained here. He's willing to
work on peace because he cares about you, and he
hopes Lensky will be a partner in that. And that's
someone who's out there putting the sort of counter messaging
to try to, you know, hustle us in that regard,
and that's not that's not going to be productive.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Here and hustling us exactly what's going on? So what
does the Lensky do? Zelensky gets kicked out of the
White House. Uh, And so he jumps on a plane
and he hurries off to London where he's greeted by
here starmer.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Let me just say that it will very very welcome
here in Downing Street.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Competitive be here, and really I saw a lot of
people and I wanted to thank you people love the
United Kingdom and such big support from the very beginning
of the school. Thank you your team for happy did
have such such looks, such fantastic thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
And that's all side of it. In the next few
days to join us today.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And so we're going to sign this package night. We're
gonna give you two billion dollars.
Speaker 10 (28:09):
And the stakes couldn't be higher for The summit to
take place on Sunday, hosted by British Prime Minister Kirstama,
will bring together leaders across Europe and we'll tackle urgent
questions looming over the war in Ukraine. How will Europe
continue supporting Kief and how will the blog stand up
to Moscow. The meeting comes on the heels of a
huated exchange on Friday between Donald Trump and Vladimir Zelensky
(28:32):
in the Oval Office that dashed hopes that Ukraine could
count on the US going forward. German Foreign Minister and
Alena Beerbach to a new era had begun in its wake.
Speaker 11 (28:43):
Our horror is greater today than before, but so is
our commitment to the people of Ukraine, to our security
and to peace in Europe Friday evening, underlying that a
new era of nefariousness has begun, a nefarious time in
which we must defend is the rules based international order.
Speaker 10 (29:01):
The most pressing question is how Europe would take on
the burden of supporting Kiev if Washington cuts off its funding.
Ukraine has so far survived in large part thanks to
more than tens of billions of US military aid under
then President Joe Biden, but the flow of US weapons
to Ukraine has nearly stopped and could imminently end completely,
with Trump insisting on payback for the aid. Trump has
(29:23):
also ruled out providing security guarantees for Ukraine, which is
at the heart of demands made by Kiev and its allies.
The host of Sunday Summit, the UK has pledged to
play its part in ensuring a lasting piece steal on
Ukraine's terms, announcing plans to increase its defense spending by
two point five percent by twenty twenty seven. As Kiev's
allies weighed uncharted waters, they agree that the cost of
(29:46):
Ukraine losing the war will be exponentially higher for Europe
than the alternative.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So they're going to increase their spending two years from now.
It had taken them two years to get up to
even two and a half percent, half of what Trump
has told them they need to get to five percent
of their GDP. Who's the bad guy here, It's not
Donald Trump, It's the Europeans and Zelenski, but in particular
(30:16):
the Europeans who truly do hate us.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Hey, Michael, Yeah, I worked for a company that we
had a meeting with our English and French and Dutch
counterparts years ago, and they went to great lengths improving
that we had. They had a greater GP than the
United States did. The big problem was that took them
twice as many people to do it. That was pointed
out in the meeting, and they didn't have much to say.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
So Ryan, if he's a way, Ryan, you left your
text message. By the way, remember our text message line
is thirty three one zero three. I was scrolling through
the other number. That's not my number anymore. Don't text
me on that other number. But I'm looking at those
text messages, and one of them to Ryan on at
(31:06):
the end of last week says, Ryan, what people want
is for Trump to call Putin the dictator. He is
not Zelensky. Trump is more of a dictator than Zelensky.
Putin has got Trump in his pocket. Really, how the
hell do you figure that? Trump said numerous times, I'm
not going to sit here and call Vladimir Putin, you know,
(31:28):
a dirt bag when I'm trying to get him to
the table to help save your country. Anyway, I'm not
going to chase that squirrel. But I want to end
the show by pointing out that I love Europe. I
mean I really do. I love traveling in Europe. Uh
it's culturally significant, it's a wonderful place to visit. But
(31:49):
the problem is that most Europeans don't respect Americans, yet
they rely on us for their security. Well, they run
off doing their social experiments, whether that's a social welfare
state or it's the Green New Deal, and they just
emasculate their economies and expect us to protect them when
(32:10):
the feces hits the fan. Maybe we're not as sophisticated,
I mean, maybe we're not as cultured as Europeans, but
we're not stupid. And I know that Europeans look down
on us, and I know that Europeans think they're better
than us. Maybe they are in some ways. They work less,
they get they get more vacation time than we do.
(32:32):
They have a magnificent culture. I get it, but so
do we, and we work for we have a different
work ethic. But any relationship on which side does not
respect the other side cannot last, you know, the Harvard
Harris Pole shows. Here's the question, do you want Ukraine
(32:56):
to continue the war against Russia or negotiate to settlement
russ seventy two percent want us to negotiate a settlement.
Only twenty eight percent of Americans went to continue the war.
Do you favor or oppose Donald Trump announcing direct US
Russian negotiations to end the war in Ukraine? Sixty percent
say yes. Forty percent are opposed to that. So when
(33:21):
Zelenski comes to the White House and kind of acts
like he can tell us what we should do, he
doesn't get the relationship. Ukraine is not part of NATO.
The idea that we Americans are somehow in the hook,
including for countries not in NATO, that was never the deal.
We're not obligated to protect Ukraine. Do we have an
(33:45):
Do we have an obligation anywhere there's conflict if we
can to try to deconflict the conflict. Yeah, I think
we do, because we are the most powerful nation on
the earth, at least for now we are. After he
left the White House, Zelenski moniacally reposted on x all
(34:06):
the different affirmations of support for Ukraine from European leaders, great,
then go work with them. I don't think Europeans understand
what America is dealing with. We got Chinese and Mexican
fentanyl and methamphetamine. Mafia is working together to kill more
than one hundred thousand of our citizens every year. Our
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kids aren't learning to read, they can't do math. We
got thousands of vetters of PTSD who are hurting. We've
been at war in the Middle East for a quarter
of a century. It's been eighty years since we bailed out.
Europe doesn't really have its own military. It does have
its own nuclear weapons, that's about it. We got to
recognize that Europe. Do you think you're so tough, you
(34:48):
think you can do it on your own? What are
you gonna do when you come crying to us
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