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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is this the bicycle clown show?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Somebody told me to turn into the bicycle clown show.
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, this is a clown show, but I'm not sure
what the reference to bicycles.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean, I've seen bicycles on clowns that clown show.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
But I think that's a callback to the Brian Schuestring.
Now Michael can be bicycle, Michael bicycle, I mean clown
and brown. Oh well, I think it's a callback to
earlier on this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You're very good.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
At really desperately trying to come up with any sort
of connection you can make to whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Let's go back to Mayor Johnson. The first thing he does,
or maybe the second. Maybe he went to the bathroom first,
I don't know, but the first thing that he does
is he runs over to you and n to talk
to my favorite CN and reporter, Jake Tapper.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
That House Republicans, inspired by President Trump and led by
Congressman James Comer are calling on mayors of sanctuary cities
that don't cooperate with federal authorities. Four cases like the
ones you just mentioned, involving hospitals or churches or schools
to testify next month about the sanctuary city policies impact
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on public safety given the refusal to cooperate with federal
immigration enforcement. Have you been invited, do you plan on
attending the hearing, and what is the argument against what
Comer and Trump are calling you to do.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, we've been invited. We've been in contact with their
staff and their teaming. Look, we're open to a conversation
about comprehensive federal immitis perform and what Congress can do
to help make the situation in cities much easier to manage.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I think I thought Trump answered that yesterday or day
before yesterday when he spoke before the jail. Instead, we
were told that, you know, we had to have a
change in the law, We had to have all this stuff,
and when it turns out, all we really.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Needed was just a change in the presidency.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I think what we know is the biggest challenge here
is not crime. We've seen a decrease in crime during
the increased arrival and decomers.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
We know the instance of crime is the lowest.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Enron remember population, almost any of our populations. When it
does exist, if we address it quickly and resolve it,
the real question is what do we do with the
dreamers who were here and have been here for ten
or twenty years. What do do with folks who came
in and played by the rules and are rating on
their day in court as asylum seekers or TPS recipients.
We want to make sure those populations get their fair
day in court and make their case. And those folks
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are right now on the job contributing to our economy.
We don't think any employers in the city want them
pulled off the job and deported when they're contributing.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I want to address the question of whether illegal aliens
commit more crimes than US citizens because it's pretty complex
and it depends heavily on how crime is defined, how
you measure, how you compare it. Here's what the data suggests.
Studies consistently show that undocumented aliens as a group commit
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crimes at lower rates than native born US citizens when
you look at per capita arrest or conviction rates for
serious offenses like violent crimes, property crimes, or drug offenses.
For example, there's a study out of Texas Department of
Public Safety. Now it's old, now it's getting older, but
it's the latest one I can find is from twenty
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twelve to twenty eighteen. And the only reason I cited
is because it's the only study I can find. There
may be a newer study, and I think we need
a newer study, because well, there's been a hell of
a lot more people since twenty eighteen. You think about
the numbers that came in during the Biden administration, and
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you think about the infiltration of gangs and the cartels
sent Biden had taken office. Well, let's go back to
that study. The study back in two thousand, between twenty
twelve and twenty eighteen found that undocumented aliens were arrested
at less than half the rate of Native born citizens
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for violent crimes and drug crimes, and about a quarter
the rate for property crimes. Now, that pattern seemed to
hold across multiple analysis, including longitudinal studies that span decades,
which indicate that aliens both legal and are undocumented, tend
to have lower incarceration rates than US born individuals. So
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when I looked at that summary of the study, it
raised so many questions because, well, first of all, the
subset of illegal aliens is compared to the subset of
all American born citizens. You're comparing you know, three hundred.
Let's just say, well, let's just say three hundred thirty
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million US citizens to twenty or twenty five million illegal
aliens that are in this country. But then you get
to the raw number of crimes committed by illegal aliens
is still significant, especially in areas that have large illegal
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alien populations, like Denver, which has the largest per capita
rate of illegal aliens. Because even a lower crime rate
applied to say a sizable group, produces a noticeable, a
notable total. Critics of immigration often highlight this aggregate figure,
then point to specific high profile cases or federal arrest data.
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There's a twenty twenty one Department of Justice report that
says that sixty four percent of federal arrests in twenty eighteen,
again involved non citizens. I would guess that that number
is even greater. Twenty twenty one looked at federal arrests
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in twenty eighteen, sixty four percent of those involved non citizens.
So now you've got to delve into conviction rates. What's
is it?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Are they?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Are they property crimes? Are they victimless crimes?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Are they? Whatever? They?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
How are you categorize them? So you see there's a
key nuance which is the type of truck crime that's
being considered. So do illegal aliens commit more crimes than
US citizens per person? No, research does suggest that their
crime rates are lower, but in total volume. It depends
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on the population, population size, and the context.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So this crap that he keeps pushing out, Oh the
crime rates are you at different?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
So it's much, It's horrible, And our bigger problem is
the dreamers. Well that's what he told Jake Tapper about
thirty days ago. Well what does he say when we
get I got to get back to where what does
he say to CNN yesterday?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
For a long time here, you did face some tough
questions from Congressman Jim Jordan, and I want to ask
you about this mayre because his question was about the
recent release of a suspected Venezuelan gang member in Denver
shown here in this post.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
So Ice in Denver says.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That agents were forced to arrest this man in public
rather than inside the jail. They said, he got released
on Friday and then he assaulted the officers.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
So I want to play.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Part of your exchange with Congressman Jordan at the hearing.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And by the way, we have the video of that exchange,
not the exchange between Jordan and Johnston. But we have
video of the illegal alien being released from Denver County
jail and then Ice having to swarm him and of
course him fighting back like crazy. Why did they not
just do it in the jail? What what is it
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about that?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Listen to this? Listen to this, Answerry.
Speaker 9 (08:20):
The ICE officers got assaulted, didn't he?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I reviewed the video.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
We had to taste the guy.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Didn't he pertect?
Speaker 9 (08:25):
My answer, sir, no, I'd like the answer.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Did they tase him?
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I know that there were six officers that in multiple tasers.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
It was not safer for the ICE agents who are
part of your community. No way was it safer. The
safest thing to do is to say, Ice, we got
him in custody, come here, we're releasing. We held him
three hundred and forty five days. We can't hold him
a second longer. We can't wait for you to come
inside the building. We gotta let him go, so you
have to rest him in the parking lot. That is
how stupid sanctuary policies are.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I know you're obviously would take issue or on Bridge
with the way that he presented it, but does does
he have a point? Does that situation, you know what
happened in that case in Denver, show something that must change.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So she admits, oh, well, you know, Jim Jordan is
a total a hole. So you may take umbridge with that,
but you.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Got to admit, you know, we've looked at the video.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You've seen the video. Does he have a point? Well,
of course he has a point. What's the mayor's point?
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Ye? I mean, we've had an established policy to do this.
We've done it twelve hundred and twenty six times and
never had an issue. What happens is if we have
someone in our custody.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We've done it twelve hundred and twenty six times, one
two hundred and twenty six times. We've had someone in
our custody that has an ICE detention order and we
have just said, here, go out to the parking lot.
Good luck. I shouldn't laugh, but that's decision. What they're saying, Hey,
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you're free to go. Wink wink. There might be somebody
out in the parking lot. It's looking for you. Cowly,
this guy's a dummy.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
And twenty six times and never had an issue. What
happens is if we have someone in our custody that
ICE wants access to. They ask for a notification. We
notify when they'll be released and where we are different
than some other cities today and that we do actually
notify ICE so they can pick them up.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
This is the first we notify them. You got thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You don't notify them when you take them into What
is the what is the problem with notifying when you
arrest them? And by the way, twelve or twenty six
times now, obviously not every person that gets arrested is
guilty of a crime, although everyone who comes into this
country is guilty of a crime. They're violating Title eighteen.
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But I digress. But why is it so difficult? Why
is this so difficult for I don't care. I don't
care what you claim to be in terms of a
sanctuary city or what this is.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
This is the equivalent of.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The stupid Chinese firewall that existed between say, the FBI
and the CIA. Well, we both know about terrace, and
we both know they might want to, you know, flyplanes
in the buildings, but we can't tell you that, and
we're not going to tell you this. I mean, that's
how stupid it is. We've got someone in our in
our jail that is an alien, an illegal alien, and
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by the way, we also notice that there is an
ICE detainer for that individual. But we're not going to
say anything today. We'll wait until an hour before we
release them. That's what the mayor are saying.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
One hundred and twenty six times and never had an issue.
What happens is if we have someone in our custody
that ICE wants access to, they ask for a notification,
we notify when they'll be released, and where we are
different than some of the other cities today and that
we do actually notify ICE so they can pick them up.
This is the first time I've ever been aware there's
been an incident.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well mare, this is the first time you've ever been
aware that there's been an incident, because there have been
other incidents and you've not been aware of any of those,
or you claiming to sure this is the first time
you've been aware of this incident. Because if this is
the first time that you've been aware of this incident,
then I got a couple of points I'd like to make.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well, either way, I'd like to make this point regardless, and.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That is, you know We've told you before that Denver
taxpayers are paying a minimum of two million dollars to
a DC based international law firm by the name of
Covington and Berlin to represent Johnston in these hearings. Are
we getting our money's worth? Because either the firm needs
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to fire the client or the taxpayers need to get
their money back because the firm's not preparing the client.
Because if you're going to testify before Congress and you
know what the subject matter is, which you always do,
then don't you do a deep dive into Okay, Mayor,
let's sit down. We're a gigantic law firm. We got
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our offices all over the world. We got a bazillion lawyers,
we got a bazillion pair of legals, we got a
bazillion investigators, and we're going to investigate everything is happening.
Then the for the term of your office, because if
it happened outside your office, we're not representing that. We're
representing you for your term as mayor. And oh, by
the way, we found this incident where you held somebody
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for three hundred and forty five days and then you
gave ice notice a couple of hours before you released him,
we need to sit down and talk about that, or
in t which the mayor may have responded, well, but
you know, blah blah blah, whatever crap answer he gave,
or the firm didn't do their homework and he was
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caught flat footed, so that when he gets on the CNN,
let's be pretty ambiguous in our language. So well, I
did either I either didn't know about this or I
didn't know about any too.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
They ask for a notification. We notify when they'll be released,
and where we are different than some of the other
cities today and that we do actually notify Ice so
they can pick them up. This is the first time
I've ever been where there's been an incident. There were
six ICE officers there. The individual was unarmed. We walk
him right out into a secure location. That's a parking
lot that's fenced where he can be detained.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And so I got of.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's secure. Have you seen the video. It's a parking lot.
It would be like me saying that the parking lot
behind this building is secure because there's a fence around it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You can run and run.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
In fact, you know, looking at the fence that I
saw you run and run and run if you're desperate enough,
even if you've got razor wire on the top, you
can run and you can you can leap right over,
you can eat.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Maybe you get cut up a little bit, but you
could escape.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But even beyond that, you give the detainee maneuverability. You
give them the option to run, to create a chase,
to start fighting back.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh it was a secured area. What bull crap?
Speaker 7 (15:26):
This works safely before I've reached out to ICE. We're
gonna meet with them next week. If there are procedures
we can adjust to make it safe when we're open
to that.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But see, now we get the truth.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So we've reached out to ICE and we're gonna sit
down and talk to them because if there are ways
we can do this, if we can wait, ways we
can do this differently that is safer for them. Well,
we're open to the discussion, not saying we're gonna do it,
but we're open to the discussion.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
This has been a procedure that's worked for a long
long time.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
We've been run an issue until this week.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Oh so this is the only time you've had an issue.
You've always just by the way. I would just say
to the gang members I know you how have the
ability and you know how to communicate with any of
your gang members that might be incarcerated, two way conversations.
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I know you can do it. It's done all the time.
So I'm just giving you a public service announcement here.
Denver will release your fellow gang member into a secured
area about the size of a typical business parking lot.
And so all you need to do is just show
up and you can just overwhelm the ICE agents and
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or just have a big gun battle. Yeah, yeah, Mayor
you really are some kind of stupid.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Relationship with Ice and Brad Holman, who's obviously running all
of this.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Is it a good one right now?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Is it productive? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I don't care what you say about that. Back to
Kyle Clark for a minute. So Kyle Clark decides, since
I didn't get my viral moment, let me create one.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
What does he do? What does she do?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I don't know why, Well I do know why, because
she wants she wants the television coverage, and he's looking
for the gotcha moment. So guess who sits down together?
Lauren Bobert and Kyle Clark.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Taking good time. Yes, welcome to Washington, DC.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Kyle, that was a long hearing today.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Did we learn.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
Anything new about Denver sanctuary policies?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Think tight?
Speaker 11 (17:32):
This is next, Michael. After hearing the interviews yesterday with
Johnson and Johnston, I see that the communist Democrats are
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only trying to divide this country. I see after Trump's speech,
it's a big division and it's not getting any better.
What do you think it's going to take to make
this country come back together like we need to be.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I don't know that we can.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I don't know that we can come back together until
we go through the breakup, because we do have irreconcilable differences.
But the breakup may not be as bad as you think.
And the only reason I would say that is because
if you look now, they can always pull a rabbit
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out of the hat. But if you look at what
Democrats are doing now that they've lost power so far,
there's no coherent message.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
There's no.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Well I was gonna say there's no coordinated response, but
there is a coordinated response, but it's absolutely ineffectual. It's
they're not they're not doing anything that's going to move
the dial at all. I go back to those figures
that CNN was playing I'll see if I can find
them later that CNN was playing earlier today, about fifty
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four fifty nine percent of Americans actually support this agenda
about what's going on. They've lost the narrative and they
don't know how to get it back. Not saying they
never will, but they haven't so far. So back to this,
I'm not sure I'm going to do this entire interview,
but there are parts of it that are just hilarious.
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This is Kyle Clark interviewing Lauren Bobert after the hearing yesterday.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
Well, I think we've better established that Denver does have
sanctuary policies, and so does the state of Colorado. Obviously,
we have counties like Douglas County and Mesa County who
have put forward a lawsuit to end the sanctuary policies
in the state of Colorado that prevent local law enforcement
officers from coordinating with ICE agents. And we have heard
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Denver Mayor Mike Johnston really go on the record and say, well,
it's a.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
State law, so my hands are tied here. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I disagree with her about one thing.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He did say that, but he also pointed out in
one of the very first questions from Congressman Jim Jordan
about you know, is Denver a sanctuary city? I don't
have the SoundBite with me, but Johnston replies, no, we
have ordinances. Now, an ordinance is different from a state statute,
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and a mayor would use the term ordnance to refer
to a city ordinance. There are city ordinances that established
Denver as a sanctuary city. Now, if Jim Jordan would
and don't get me wrong, I love Jim Jordan, but
if he would learn to shut up and actually listen
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to the answer, he would have heard the mayor go
on to say that, yeah, well there are ordinances in Denver,
and I have to come apply with those ordinances. If
he had just stopped and listened to that answer, that
would have given him a whole new line to go down. Well,
wait a minute, you're here as the mayor of Denver.
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You're the it's a strong mayor form of government. You
lead the city council. You could change those ordinances by
submitting an amendment getting the city council to go along
with it, which might be a challenge, but nonetheless, if
you're the leader of the city, lead change the ordinance.
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But Jim Jordan didn't hear it. So Bobart is writing that, yes,
there are state laws and there are city ordinances, all
of which can be changed, but Democrats control this state
and they're not going to the exceptions that she points out,
obviously Douglas and Mason Counties.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
And also there's an ordinance in Denver that says that
Denversity employees will be fired if they.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Communicate with federal law enforcement officers.
Speaker 12 (22:07):
I asked the mayor if that was the same for
all federal agents, employees, anyone in the e p A
or the Health and Human Services, and of course it isn't.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
It's just for federal law enforcement. And certainly he.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Wants to talk about the warrant piece of that, saying,
if there's a warrant, then then sure we can coordinate
with ICE, but there are many issues before warrants take place.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Chuck Norris, Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize there was
gonna be a commercial in the middle of it. Do
you want to hear do you want to hear Chuck Norris?
I don't want to hear Chuck Norris, but there's no
way for me to skip through it, so I don't
have a skip button here. Let's see if we can
find a way to get through the uh this okay
with commercial because who wants.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
This is where our computer noise comes in? Do do do? Do? Do?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Do?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Do? Do?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Do?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Want? Approach?
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Denver's got a different approach, and your mind, is it
more important for El Paso County to be able to
do more cooperation with immigration if that's what they want,
or is it more important to have Denver kind of
brought in line to force them to be more cooperative?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
What's the priority?
Speaker 12 (23:10):
I always prioritize local government. I want our local county
commissioners to be in charge of their county. They oversee
everything that takes place in their counties and they do
a really fantastic job until higher governments get involved and
tie their hands. So certainly, if Denver wants to remain
a city that has these.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Ordinances and follow in line.
Speaker 12 (23:33):
With Colorado's state sanctuary policies, well then let them do that,
and then the citizens can choose if.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
They want to re elect that same council.
Speaker 12 (23:43):
And then if places like Elpaso or Douglas County or
Albert County anywhere else, if they want to have stricter
enforcement and coordinate with federal law enforcement officers, and they
would have the ability to do so.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
I think it's really important.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I want to make sure that I'm hearing you correctly.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
So you're saying that you're not interested in forcing Denver
to change its policies, but you just want other communities
to be able to take a stricter ap post immigration
if that's what they choose.
Speaker 12 (24:06):
Well, right now, those policies are in place.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
That is state law.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
There's an ordinance in Denver, but it should not restrict.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
The other counties.
Speaker 12 (24:16):
You know, I've talked to you, even Governor Jared Poulis.
He and I have a good talking relationship. And when
Trende Aragua was present in Aurora, I called him and
he said, there's nothing I could do.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
This is out of my jurisdiction.
Speaker 12 (24:30):
It's really up to the city of Aurora. Well, Kyle,
we weren't hearing that with COVID lockdowns. We weren't hearing
that when our school schools were shut down, my restaurant
was shut down because of state policies. My county commissioners
were following those state policies, and then the counties that
said we're not going to follow Uh, these these policies
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that were put they weren't even laws that were put
into place. It was really just enforcements that they were
in acting emergency orders. They were the ones that were
getting picked apart and saying that they were causing debts
and really having the government come.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Down on them harder.
Speaker 12 (25:09):
So I think our counties should have the most control
of their policy.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Now, I am a.
Speaker 12 (25:16):
Federal representative, and we have a president of the United
States that says, if you choose to be a sanctuary city, county, state,
well then you're not going to get federal funding because
that is against federal law.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
And I think that's fair.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
It's very unfortunate for folks who do receive the tax
dollars back for really great programs, but also we are
seeing a lot of the waste, frauden abuse from bad
programs as well.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
You have to mention that would have a ripple effect
in your district, right if Denver loses head start funding,
road and bridge funding, law enforcement funding, that would trickle
down to your district.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Too, right, Well, duh, of course it would.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
But then you get a choice. You see what I
love about? Oh, well this, you know, if Trump cuts
off federal funding because you're a sanctuary city. Then oh
my gosh, you know, head start roads and bridges. Well,
look at the roads and bridges to begin with, there's nothing.
They're crappy to begin with. You know what Trump's doing here,
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and I one hundred percent agree with it, because first
of all, I despise federal funding. If if you want
to build a road or a bridge or a highway
in your state, then you ought to fund that. The
only exception I would make would be, for example, interstate
or US highways. But all the roads and bridges, those
are state functions. But what's Trump doing? Well, let me
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just pull up the Drudge Report real quickly. Europe rushes
to rearm, emergency talks. France opens talks to extend their
nuclear shield, for europe allies to share US intel. The
whole point is suddenly NATO and the European countries are
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stepping up because Trump is threatening that you know what,
We've paid enough, you guys want to pay some more,
go for it, have at it. The mere threat of
it is causing people to change their ways. All Trump
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has to do is say, yeah, you know what, And
this is where it takes real leadership. And this is
where you have a political issue that you're going to
have to fight, not just those affected special interests, but
then people like Kyle Clark who are going are you
over head Start will lose money. Yeah, but it doesn't
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have to. You've got to make a choice. Do you
want to allow illegal aliens to come in and they
suck up.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
All of your local resources, and.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Then you backfill those resources because oh you'll get some
head Start money, so you'll use that to help pay
for the education costs for illegal aliens. You see, there,
there's always a choice to be made. You may not
like the choice, but you can make a choice. And
Trump's giving them choices. I say cut the federal funding.
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Now when you do that, and here's where you have
a role. You have an incredible role in this because
you know that the cabal.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Will start screaming bloody murder. Oh my gosh, they're cutting.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Medicare, Medicaid, social Security, They're cutting everything that you know.
You can't even go into Rocky Mountain National Park. You know,
only one guy's got a key. I mean, whatever bull
crap thing's going on will continue to go on, and
you will be you will be pressured to you know,
uprise against all these funding cuts. No, we'll still you
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give you your head start money, We'll still give you your federal
highway funds, We'll give you all of that. We just
need you to change this over here, because we're busy
trying to deport people, and we're busy trying to stop
people from coming across the border illegally, and so we
need your cooperation and you can choose to do it
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or not do it. You see, if we had never
started federal funding in the first place, if we kept
the federal government doing what it should be doing, just
like the Department of Ed. There are some astonishing statistics
about since the Department of Ed was created, how test
scores have plummeted in this country and the number of
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administrators now exceeds the number of teachers. Shouldn't that be
the inverse. Shouldn't you have more teachers than administrators, because
otherwise your top heavy, your top heavy bureaucracy with plunging
testing scores, which means you're not doing your job. Kids
aren't getting educated.
Speaker 13 (30:08):
I'll be right back people who said that we need
to spend these ridiculous amounts of money in front of
the House Oversight Committee to justify in front of the
American people why we're spending these millions and billions of
dollars priviously, thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I'd like to know what forum in which you would
do that, because to get to get someone to rationalize,
I mean, the problem is there is no legitimate rationale
for it. In my opinion, the spending that we're doing
on illegal aliens. There's no rational basis at all for
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the federal government to be doing that. Why do you
think that Mike Johnson has to run to scripture? Oh,
you know, we got to take care of the poor. No,
Jesus didn't say I'm saying to all governments you must
take care of the poor. He said to us as Christians.
He said to us, as human beings, that we have
an obligation to take care of the poor, that the
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poor will always be among us. But we have at
you know, I haven't talked about this in a long time,
but it is that we have allowed Marxism, and it
is unequivocally Marxism that becomes the substitute for any deity,
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and so God goes out the window. All it goes
out the window. Whatever deity is that you worship goes
out the window, and Marxism as the government becomes what
you worship, and what you worship then becomes that provider
to you, or the provider to you becomes that which
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you worship.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
And so it's Marxism that says that you.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Have to take these poor people in and you have
to clothe them, feed them, house them, provide the medical care, education,
everything else.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'll give you a great example from someone. Let me
find his text from Guba number zero four to three three.
I think I want to identify as an illegal alien.
Last year alone, I paid almost eighty six hundred dollars
in health insurance. On top of that, I paid close
to three thousand dollars in medical bills that the insurance
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didn't cover. I paid almost seventeen thousand dollars in taxes.
My rent was twenty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
For the year.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
My grocery bill was probably somewhere around twelve thousand dollars
for the year. I drive a two thousand and eight
Jeep because I can't afford a better vehicle. I didn't
even mention that they give the illegal aliens free phone.
I paid over three thousand dollars from my family phone bill.
I have to work around seventy hours a week to
afford this. So yes, I'm going to identify as an
illegal alien so I can get all this for free.
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Then I can get a job working under the table
and not have to pay any taxes. The illegal aliens
have it much better than American citizens. There's precisely what's
going on, and there's precisely what has happened, and it's
happened because the Marxists that run the government, or who
have been running the government, they don't anymore except for
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the administrative state. Many of them are Marxists because they
believe in the power of the government, that the power
the government can better decide for you how to live,
how to run your business, how to live your life. Everything.
They know better than you do how to make those
choices for yourself. So they make the choices for you,
or they limit the choices through rules and regulations. They
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there is no rationale for this, and they will just
continue to do this until there is pain. And I
think the pain goes back to that conversation between Kyle
Clark and Lauren Bolbert. Oh, but they might cut you know,
head Start. Yes, absolutely, they might and you might have
to suffer from some pain.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I always find it interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
That when you really do find pain and you really
do believe in, say it's head Start or it's that
in Gao we talked about at the very beginning of
the program. You'll go find somebody else, an investor, a charitable,
private organization, and you'll get your funding moment or another
Is this the bicycle clown show?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Somebody told me to turn into the bicycle clown show.
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, this is a clown show, but I'm not sure
what the reference to bicycles.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean, I've seen bicycles on clowns that clown show.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
But I think that's a callback to the Brian Schuestring.
Now Michael can be bicycle, Michael bicycle, I mean clown
and brown. Oh well, I think it's a callback to
earlier on this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You're very good.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
At really desperately trying to come up with any sort
of connection you can make to whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Let's go back to Mayor Johnson. The first thing he does,
or maybe the second. Maybe he went to the bathroom first,
I don't know, but the first thing that he does
is he runs over to you and n to talk
to my favorite CN and reporter, Jake Tapper.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
That House Republicans, inspired by President Trump and led by
Congressman James Comer are calling on mayors of sanctuary cities
that don't cooperate with federal authorities. Four cases like the
ones you just mentioned, involving hospitals or churches or schools
to testify next month about the sanctuary city policies impact
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on public safety given the refusal to cooperate with federal
immigration enforcement. Have you been invited, do you plan on
attending the hearing, and what is the argument against what
Comer and Trump are calling you to do.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, we've been invited. We've been in contact with their
staff and their teaming. Look, we're open to a conversation
about comprehensive federal immitis perform and what Congress can do
to help make the situation in cities much easier to manage.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I think I thought Trump answered that yesterday or day
before yesterday when he spoke before the jail. Instead, we
were told that, you know, we had to have a
change in the law, We had to have all this stuff,
and when it turns out, all we really.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Needed was just a change in the presidency.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I think what we know is the biggest challenge here
is not crime. We've seen a decrease in crime during
the increased arrival and decomers.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
We know the instance of crime is the lowest.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Enron remember population, almost any of our populations. When it
does exist, if we address it quickly and resolve it,
the real question is what do we do with the
dreamers who were here and have been here for ten
or twenty years. What do do with folks who came
in and played by the rules and are rating on
their day in court as asylum seekers or TPS recipients.
We want to make sure those populations get their fair
day in court and make their case. And those folks
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are right now on the job contributing to our economy.
We don't think any employers in the city want them
pulled off the job and deported when they're contributing.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I want to address the question of whether illegal aliens
commit more crimes than US citizens because it's pretty complex
and it depends heavily on how crime is defined, how
you measure, how you compare it. Here's what the data suggests.
Studies consistently show that undocumented aliens as a group commit
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crimes at lower rates than native born US citizens when
you look at per capita arrest or conviction rates for
serious offenses like violent crimes, property crimes, or drug offenses.
For example, there's a study out of Texas Department of
Public Safety. Now it's old, now it's getting older, but
it's the latest one I can find is from twenty
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twelve to twenty eighteen. And the only reason I cited
is because it's the only study I can find. There
may be a newer study, and I think we need
a newer study, because well, there's been a hell of
a lot more people since twenty eighteen. You think about
the numbers that came in during the Biden administration, and
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you think about the infiltration of gangs and the cartels
sent Biden had taken office. Well, let's go back to
that study. The study back in two thousand, between twenty
twelve and twenty eighteen found that undocumented aliens were arrested
at less than half the rate of Native born citizens
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for violent crimes and drug crimes, and about a quarter
the rate for property crimes. Now, that pattern seemed to
hold across multiple analysis, including longitudinal studies that span decades,
which indicate that aliens both legal and are undocumented, tend
to have lower incarceration rates than US born individuals. So
(04:41):
when I looked at that summary of the study, it
raised so many questions because, well, first of all, the
subset of illegal aliens is compared to the subset of
all American born citizens. You're comparing you know, three hundred.
Let's just say, well, let's just say three hundred thirty
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million US citizens to twenty or twenty five million illegal
aliens that are in this country. But then you get
to the raw number of crimes committed by illegal aliens
is still significant, especially in areas that have large illegal
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alien populations, like Denver, which has the largest per capita
rate of illegal aliens. Because even a lower crime rate
applied to say a sizable group, produces a noticeable, a
notable total. Critics of immigration often highlight this aggregate figure,
then point to specific high profile cases or federal arrest data.
(05:49):
There's a twenty twenty one Department of Justice report that
says that sixty four percent of federal arrests in twenty eighteen,
again involved non citizens. I would guess that that number
is even greater. Twenty twenty one looked at federal arrests
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in twenty eighteen, sixty four percent of those involved non citizens.
So now you've got to delve into conviction rates. What's
is it?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Are they?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Are they property crimes? Are they victimless crimes?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Are they? Whatever? They?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
How are you categorize them? So you see there's a
key nuance which is the type of truck crime that's
being considered. So do illegal aliens commit more crimes than
US citizens per person? No, research does suggest that their
crime rates are lower, but in total volume. It depends
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on the population, population size, and the context.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So this crap that he keeps pushing out, Oh the
crime rates are you at different?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
So it's much, It's horrible, And our bigger problem is
the dreamers. Well that's what he told Jake Tapper about
thirty days ago. Well what does he say when we
get I got to get back to where what does
he say to CNN yesterday?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
For a long time here, you did face some tough
questions from Congressman Jim Jordan, and I want to ask
you about this mayre because his question was about the
recent release of a suspected Venezuelan gang member in Denver
shown here in this post.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
So Ice in Denver says.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That agents were forced to arrest this man in public
rather than inside the jail. They said, he got released
on Friday and then he assaulted the officers.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
So I want to play.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Part of your exchange with Congressman Jordan at the hearing.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And by the way, we have the video of that exchange,
not the exchange between Jordan and Johnston. But we have
video of the illegal alien being released from Denver County
jail and then Ice having to swarm him and of
course him fighting back like crazy. Why did they not
just do it in the jail? What what is it
(08:14):
about that?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Listen to this? Listen to this, Answerry.
Speaker 9 (08:20):
The ICE officers got assaulted, didn't he?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I reviewed the video.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
We had to taste the guy.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Didn't he pertect?
Speaker 9 (08:25):
My answer, sir, no, I'd like the answer.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Did they tase him?
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I know that there were six officers that in multiple tasers.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
It was not safer for the ICE agents who are
part of your community. No way was it safer. The
safest thing to do is to say, Ice, we got
him in custody, come here, we're releasing. We held him
three hundred and forty five days. We can't hold him
a second longer. We can't wait for you to come
inside the building. We gotta let him go, so you
have to rest him in the parking lot. That is
how stupid sanctuary policies are.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I know you're obviously would take issue or on Bridge
with the way that he presented it, but does does
he have a point? Does that situation, you know what
happened in that case in Denver, show something that must change.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So she admits, oh, well, you know, Jim Jordan is
a total a hole. So you may take umbridge with that,
but you.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Got to admit, you know, we've looked at the video.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You've seen the video. Does he have a point? Well,
of course he has a point. What's the mayor's point?
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Ye? I mean, we've had an established policy to do this.
We've done it twelve hundred and twenty six times and
never had an issue. What happens is if we have
someone in our custody.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We've done it twelve hundred and twenty six times, one
two hundred and twenty six times. We've had someone in
our custody that has an ICE detention order and we
have just said, here, go out to the parking lot.
Good luck. I shouldn't laugh, but that's decision. What they're saying, Hey,
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you're free to go. Wink wink. There might be somebody
out in the parking lot. It's looking for you. Cowly,
this guy's a dummy.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
And twenty six times and never had an issue. What
happens is if we have someone in our custody that
ICE wants access to. They ask for a notification. We
notify when they'll be released and where we are different
than some other cities today and that we do actually
notify ICE so they can pick them up.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
This is the first we notify them. You got thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You don't notify them when you take them into What
is the what is the problem with notifying when you
arrest them? And by the way, twelve or twenty six
times now, obviously not every person that gets arrested is
guilty of a crime, although everyone who comes into this
country is guilty of a crime. They're violating Title eighteen.
(10:48):
But I digress. But why is it so difficult? Why
is this so difficult for I don't care. I don't
care what you claim to be in terms of a
sanctuary city or what this is.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
This is the equivalent of.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The stupid Chinese firewall that existed between say, the FBI
and the CIA. Well, we both know about terrace, and
we both know they might want to, you know, flyplanes
in the buildings, but we can't tell you that, and
we're not going to tell you this. I mean, that's
how stupid it is. We've got someone in our in
our jail that is an alien, an illegal alien, and
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by the way, we also notice that there is an
ICE detainer for that individual. But we're not going to
say anything today. We'll wait until an hour before we
release them. That's what the mayor are saying.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
One hundred and twenty six times and never had an issue.
What happens is if we have someone in our custody
that ICE wants access to, they ask for a notification,
we notify when they'll be released, and where we are
different than some of the other cities today and that
we do actually notify ICE so they can pick them up.
This is the first time I've ever been aware there's
been an incident.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well mare, this is the first time you've ever been
aware that there's been an incident, because there have been
other incidents and you've not been aware of any of those,
or you claiming to sure this is the first time
you've been aware of this incident. Because if this is
the first time that you've been aware of this incident,
then I got a couple of points I'd like to make.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well, either way, I'd like to make this point regardless, and.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That is, you know We've told you before that Denver
taxpayers are paying a minimum of two million dollars to
a DC based international law firm by the name of
Covington and Berlin to represent Johnston in these hearings. Are
we getting our money's worth? Because either the firm needs
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to fire the client or the taxpayers need to get
their money back because the firm's not preparing the client.
Because if you're going to testify before Congress and you
know what the subject matter is, which you always do,
then don't you do a deep dive into Okay, Mayor,
let's sit down. We're a gigantic law firm. We got
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our offices all over the world. We got a bazillion lawyers,
we got a bazillion pair of legals, we got a
bazillion investigators, and we're going to investigate everything is happening.
Then the for the term of your office, because if
it happened outside your office, we're not representing that. We're
representing you for your term as mayor. And oh, by
the way, we found this incident where you held somebody
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for three hundred and forty five days and then you
gave ice notice a couple of hours before you released him,
we need to sit down and talk about that, or
in t which the mayor may have responded, well, but
you know, blah blah blah, whatever crap answer he gave,
or the firm didn't do their homework and he was
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caught flat footed, so that when he gets on the CNN,
let's be pretty ambiguous in our language. So well, I
did either I either didn't know about this or I
didn't know about any too.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
They ask for a notification. We notify when they'll be released,
and where we are different than some of the other
cities today and that we do actually notify Ice so
they can pick them up. This is the first time
I've ever been where there's been an incident. There were
six ICE officers there. The individual was unarmed. We walk
him right out into a secure location. That's a parking
lot that's fenced where he can be detained.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And so I got of.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's secure. Have you seen the video. It's a parking lot.
It would be like me saying that the parking lot
behind this building is secure because there's a fence around it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You can run and run.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
In fact, you know, looking at the fence that I
saw you run and run and run if you're desperate enough,
even if you've got razor wire on the top, you
can run and you can you can leap right over,
you can eat.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Maybe you get cut up a little bit, but you
could escape.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But even beyond that, you give the detainee maneuverability. You
give them the option to run, to create a chase,
to start fighting back.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh it was a secured area. What bull crap?
Speaker 7 (15:26):
This works safely before I've reached out to ICE. We're
gonna meet with them next week. If there are procedures
we can adjust to make it safe when we're open
to that.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But see, now we get the truth.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So we've reached out to ICE and we're gonna sit
down and talk to them because if there are ways
we can do this, if we can wait, ways we
can do this differently that is safer for them. Well,
we're open to the discussion, not saying we're gonna do it,
but we're open to the discussion.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
This has been a procedure that's worked for a long
long time.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
We've been run an issue until this week.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Oh so this is the only time you've had an issue.
You've always just by the way. I would just say
to the gang members I know you how have the
ability and you know how to communicate with any of
your gang members that might be incarcerated, two way conversations.
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I know you can do it. It's done all the time.
So I'm just giving you a public service announcement here.
Denver will release your fellow gang member into a secured
area about the size of a typical business parking lot.
And so all you need to do is just show
up and you can just overwhelm the ICE agents and
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or just have a big gun battle. Yeah, yeah, Mayor
you really are some kind of stupid.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Relationship with Ice and Brad Holman, who's obviously running all
of this.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Is it a good one right now?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Is it productive? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I don't care what you say about that. Back to
Kyle Clark for a minute. So Kyle Clark decides, since
I didn't get my viral moment, let me create one.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
What does he do? What does she do?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I don't know why, Well I do know why, because
she wants she wants the television coverage, and he's looking
for the gotcha moment. So guess who sits down together?
Lauren Bobert and Kyle Clark.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Taking good time. Yes, welcome to Washington, DC.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Kyle, that was a long hearing today.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Did we learn.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
Anything new about Denver sanctuary policies?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Think tight?
Speaker 11 (17:32):
This is next, Michael. After hearing the interviews yesterday with
Johnson and Johnston, I see that the communist Democrats are
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only trying to divide this country. I see after Trump's speech,
it's a big division and it's not getting any better.
What do you think it's going to take to make
this country come back together like we need to be.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I don't know that we can.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I don't know that we can come back together until
we go through the breakup, because we do have irreconcilable differences.
But the breakup may not be as bad as you think.
And the only reason I would say that is because
if you look now, they can always pull a rabbit
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out of the hat. But if you look at what
Democrats are doing now that they've lost power so far,
there's no coherent message.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
There's no.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Well I was gonna say there's no coordinated response, but
there is a coordinated response, but it's absolutely ineffectual. It's
they're not they're not doing anything that's going to move
the dial at all. I go back to those figures
that CNN was playing I'll see if I can find
them later that CNN was playing earlier today, about fifty
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four fifty nine percent of Americans actually support this agenda
about what's going on. They've lost the narrative and they
don't know how to get it back. Not saying they
never will, but they haven't so far. So back to this,
I'm not sure I'm going to do this entire interview,
but there are parts of it that are just hilarious.
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This is Kyle Clark interviewing Lauren Bobert after the hearing yesterday.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
Well, I think we've better established that Denver does have
sanctuary policies, and so does the state of Colorado. Obviously,
we have counties like Douglas County and Mesa County who
have put forward a lawsuit to end the sanctuary policies
in the state of Colorado that prevent local law enforcement
officers from coordinating with ICE agents. And we have heard
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Denver Mayor Mike Johnston really go on the record and say, well,
it's a.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
State law, so my hands are tied here. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I disagree with her about one thing.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He did say that, but he also pointed out in
one of the very first questions from Congressman Jim Jordan
about you know, is Denver a sanctuary city? I don't
have the SoundBite with me, but Johnston replies, no, we
have ordinances. Now, an ordinance is different from a state statute,
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and a mayor would use the term ordnance to refer
to a city ordinance. There are city ordinances that established
Denver as a sanctuary city. Now, if Jim Jordan would
and don't get me wrong, I love Jim Jordan, but
if he would learn to shut up and actually listen
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to the answer, he would have heard the mayor go
on to say that, yeah, well there are ordinances in Denver,
and I have to come apply with those ordinances. If
he had just stopped and listened to that answer, that
would have given him a whole new line to go down. Well,
wait a minute, you're here as the mayor of Denver.
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You're the it's a strong mayor form of government. You
lead the city council. You could change those ordinances by
submitting an amendment getting the city council to go along
with it, which might be a challenge, but nonetheless, if
you're the leader of the city, lead change the ordinance.
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But Jim Jordan didn't hear it. So Bobart is writing that, yes,
there are state laws and there are city ordinances, all
of which can be changed, but Democrats control this state
and they're not going to the exceptions that she points out,
obviously Douglas and Mason Counties.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
And also there's an ordinance in Denver that says that
Denversity employees will be fired if they.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Communicate with federal law enforcement officers.
Speaker 12 (22:07):
I asked the mayor if that was the same for
all federal agents, employees, anyone in the e p A
or the Health and Human Services, and of course it isn't.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
It's just for federal law enforcement. And certainly he.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Wants to talk about the warrant piece of that, saying,
if there's a warrant, then then sure we can coordinate
with ICE, but there are many issues before warrants take place.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Chuck Norris, Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize there was
gonna be a commercial in the middle of it. Do
you want to hear do you want to hear Chuck Norris?
I don't want to hear Chuck Norris, but there's no
way for me to skip through it, so I don't
have a skip button here. Let's see if we can
find a way to get through the uh this okay
with commercial because who wants.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
This is where our computer noise comes in? Do do do? Do? Do?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Do?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Do? Do?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Do?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Want? Approach?
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Denver's got a different approach, and your mind, is it
more important for El Paso County to be able to
do more cooperation with immigration if that's what they want,
or is it more important to have Denver kind of
brought in line to force them to be more cooperative?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
What's the priority?
Speaker 12 (23:10):
I always prioritize local government. I want our local county
commissioners to be in charge of their county. They oversee
everything that takes place in their counties and they do
a really fantastic job until higher governments get involved and
tie their hands. So certainly, if Denver wants to remain
a city that has these.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Ordinances and follow in line.
Speaker 12 (23:33):
With Colorado's state sanctuary policies, well then let them do that,
and then the citizens can choose if.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
They want to re elect that same council.
Speaker 12 (23:43):
And then if places like Elpaso or Douglas County or
Albert County anywhere else, if they want to have stricter
enforcement and coordinate with federal law enforcement officers, and they
would have the ability to do so.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
I think it's really important.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I want to make sure that I'm hearing you correctly.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
So you're saying that you're not interested in forcing Denver
to change its policies, but you just want other communities
to be able to take a stricter ap post immigration
if that's what they choose.
Speaker 12 (24:06):
Well, right now, those policies are in place.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
That is state law.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
There's an ordinance in Denver, but it should not restrict.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
The other counties.
Speaker 12 (24:16):
You know, I've talked to you, even Governor Jared Poulis.
He and I have a good talking relationship. And when
Trende Aragua was present in Aurora, I called him and
he said, there's nothing I could do.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
This is out of my jurisdiction.
Speaker 12 (24:30):
It's really up to the city of Aurora. Well, Kyle,
we weren't hearing that with COVID lockdowns. We weren't hearing
that when our school schools were shut down, my restaurant
was shut down because of state policies. My county commissioners
were following those state policies, and then the counties that
said we're not going to follow Uh, these these policies
(24:53):
that were put they weren't even laws that were put
into place. It was really just enforcements that they were
in acting emergency orders. They were the ones that were
getting picked apart and saying that they were causing debts
and really having the government come.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Down on them harder.
Speaker 12 (25:09):
So I think our counties should have the most control
of their policy.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Now, I am a.
Speaker 12 (25:16):
Federal representative, and we have a president of the United
States that says, if you choose to be a sanctuary city, county, state,
well then you're not going to get federal funding because
that is against federal law.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
And I think that's fair.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
It's very unfortunate for folks who do receive the tax
dollars back for really great programs, but also we are
seeing a lot of the waste, frauden abuse from bad
programs as well.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
You have to mention that would have a ripple effect
in your district, right if Denver loses head start funding,
road and bridge funding, law enforcement funding, that would trickle
down to your district.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Too, right, Well, duh, of course it would.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
But then you get a choice. You see what I
love about? Oh, well this, you know, if Trump cuts
off federal funding because you're a sanctuary city. Then oh
my gosh, you know, head start roads and bridges. Well,
look at the roads and bridges to begin with, there's nothing.
They're crappy to begin with. You know what Trump's doing here,
(26:19):
and I one hundred percent agree with it, because first
of all, I despise federal funding. If if you want
to build a road or a bridge or a highway
in your state, then you ought to fund that. The
only exception I would make would be, for example, interstate
or US highways. But all the roads and bridges, those
are state functions. But what's Trump doing? Well, let me
(26:44):
just pull up the Drudge Report real quickly. Europe rushes
to rearm, emergency talks. France opens talks to extend their
nuclear shield, for europe allies to share US intel. The
whole point is suddenly NATO and the European countries are
(27:08):
stepping up because Trump is threatening that you know what,
We've paid enough, you guys want to pay some more,
go for it, have at it. The mere threat of
it is causing people to change their ways. All Trump
(27:29):
has to do is say, yeah, you know what, And
this is where it takes real leadership. And this is
where you have a political issue that you're going to
have to fight, not just those affected special interests, but
then people like Kyle Clark who are going are you
over head Start will lose money. Yeah, but it doesn't
(27:52):
have to. You've got to make a choice. Do you
want to allow illegal aliens to come in and they
suck up.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
All of your local resources, and.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Then you backfill those resources because oh you'll get some
head Start money, so you'll use that to help pay
for the education costs for illegal aliens. You see, there,
there's always a choice to be made. You may not
like the choice, but you can make a choice. And
Trump's giving them choices. I say cut the federal funding.
(28:28):
Now when you do that, and here's where you have
a role. You have an incredible role in this because
you know that the cabal.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Will start screaming bloody murder. Oh my gosh, they're cutting.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Medicare, Medicaid, social Security, They're cutting everything that you know.
You can't even go into Rocky Mountain National Park. You know,
only one guy's got a key. I mean, whatever bull
crap thing's going on will continue to go on, and
you will be you will be pressured to you know,
uprise against all these funding cuts. No, we'll still you
(29:06):
give you your head start money, We'll still give you your federal
highway funds, We'll give you all of that. We just
need you to change this over here, because we're busy
trying to deport people, and we're busy trying to stop
people from coming across the border illegally, and so we
need your cooperation and you can choose to do it
(29:27):
or not do it. You see, if we had never
started federal funding in the first place, if we kept
the federal government doing what it should be doing, just
like the Department of Ed. There are some astonishing statistics
about since the Department of Ed was created, how test
scores have plummeted in this country and the number of
(29:48):
administrators now exceeds the number of teachers. Shouldn't that be
the inverse. Shouldn't you have more teachers than administrators, because
otherwise your top heavy, your top heavy bureaucracy with plunging
testing scores, which means you're not doing your job. Kids
aren't getting educated.
Speaker 13 (30:08):
I'll be right back people who said that we need
to spend these ridiculous amounts of money in front of
the House Oversight Committee to justify in front of the
American people why we're spending these millions and billions of
dollars priviously, thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I'd like to know what forum in which you would
do that, because to get to get someone to rationalize,
I mean, the problem is there is no legitimate rationale
for it. In my opinion, the spending that we're doing
on illegal aliens. There's no rational basis at all for
(30:58):
the federal government to be doing that. Why do you
think that Mike Johnson has to run to scripture? Oh,
you know, we got to take care of the poor. No,
Jesus didn't say I'm saying to all governments you must
take care of the poor. He said to us as Christians.
He said to us, as human beings, that we have
an obligation to take care of the poor, that the
(31:20):
poor will always be among us. But we have at
you know, I haven't talked about this in a long time,
but it is that we have allowed Marxism, and it
is unequivocally Marxism that becomes the substitute for any deity,
(31:42):
and so God goes out the window. All it goes
out the window. Whatever deity is that you worship goes
out the window, and Marxism as the government becomes what
you worship, and what you worship then becomes that provider
to you, or the provider to you becomes that which
(32:03):
you worship.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
And so it's Marxism that says that you.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Have to take these poor people in and you have
to clothe them, feed them, house them, provide the medical care, education,
everything else.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'll give you a great example from someone. Let me
find his text from Guba number zero four to three three.
I think I want to identify as an illegal alien.
Last year alone, I paid almost eighty six hundred dollars
in health insurance. On top of that, I paid close
to three thousand dollars in medical bills that the insurance
(32:43):
didn't cover. I paid almost seventeen thousand dollars in taxes.
My rent was twenty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
For the year.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
My grocery bill was probably somewhere around twelve thousand dollars
for the year. I drive a two thousand and eight
Jeep because I can't afford a better vehicle. I didn't
even mention that they give the illegal aliens free phone.
I paid over three thousand dollars from my family phone bill.
I have to work around seventy hours a week to
afford this. So yes, I'm going to identify as an
illegal alien so I can get all this for free.
(33:12):
Then I can get a job working under the table
and not have to pay any taxes. The illegal aliens
have it much better than American citizens. There's precisely what's
going on, and there's precisely what has happened, and it's
happened because the Marxists that run the government, or who
have been running the government, they don't anymore except for
(33:35):
the administrative state. Many of them are Marxists because they
believe in the power of the government, that the power
the government can better decide for you how to live,
how to run your business, how to live your life. Everything.
They know better than you do how to make those
choices for yourself. So they make the choices for you,
or they limit the choices through rules and regulations. They
(34:03):
there is no rationale for this, and they will just
continue to do this until there is pain. And I
think the pain goes back to that conversation between Kyle
Clark and Lauren Bolbert. Oh, but they might cut you know,
head Start. Yes, absolutely, they might and you might have
to suffer from some pain.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I always find it interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
That when you really do find pain and you really
do believe in, say it's head Start or it's that
in Gao we talked about at the very beginning of
the program. You'll go find somebody else, an investor, a charitable,
private organization, and you'll get your funding moment or another
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