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Speaker 1 (00:00):
John, hope you don't mind.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Michael really doesn't mind it at all, so I hope
you're cool with it anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I just wanted to check in and say hello. Good
to hear your voice, buddy. Well, it's good to be on.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I love spending some time on k How it's home
for me. I've been doing radio for twenty eight years.
Oh my god, we built up some good friendships. Hey,
I'm John Caldera in for Michael Brown. By the way,
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
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and you also know you're not alone.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You're not alone.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
All right, I keep hearing about, you know, how how
awful and hateful we are.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Do you ever get this that.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
We've hit this point in our society that there is
no more disagreement.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
There's no more Oh, I respect you.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We hang out and have a beer and and we
talk about things that we disagree.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
There's no more.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Inviting dissent amongst people. Hey, I think this way? Do
you think differently?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Really?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Tell me about that. There's no more curiosity. There's just
my side and your side. And if you disagree with me,
well you're a racist. Get tired of being called a racist?
How many friends have you lost over Trump? How many
people have you lost in your life because you just
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can't take them anymore? You can't take the Trump derangement
syndrome anymore? How many people do you just they just
can't take it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
They go nuts.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I've got to say having Trump back in office is
delightful in a lot of ways, not in every way.
Things like and I know this is so wrong of
me to take enjoyment out of, but things like Golf
of America. How awesome is Golf of America? Now it's stupid,
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it's obnoxious, it's it's kind of wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's why would you change.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Something that that's been around forever? But since the left
started this renaming game, Since the Left is the one
that can't use the same words for more than a
couple of years without changing their meaning, Since it's the
Left that changed our beloved Mount Evans.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
To Mount Blue Sky. How awesome is it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That that we can say, oh, oh, you know you
don't like this. Here's what it feels like. You don't
like Gulf of America. Will screw you. You've been doing
this crap for decades and this is what it feels like.
You have no right to complain about Mount McKinley being
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called now Mount McKinley instead amount de Nali because you
guys have been playing this game. First, you keep changing
the words, and the words keep.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Getting longer and longer and longer.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We're talking in the last hour my son who is retarded.
He has down syndrome, But you can't say retarded. In fact,
many people in that community they call it the R word,
the R word to make it like the N word.
You know how I know it's not like the N
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word because I said retarded, and if I said the
N word, people.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Are be like he used the word.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Now, if you're black, you can you can use the word.
I remember my daughter when she was in high school.
She was into something called competitive cheer, and there was
a girl who got a scholarship to some college because
of her competitive cheer, her gymnastics, and on her little
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Instagram video or TikTok or whatever, she was singing along
with a popular song. I have no idea what the
song is because I'm old and I don't need to
keep up with such things. But the N word was
in this song that young people listen to because it
was sung by a black person. So she was singing
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along with this song and she put it on TikTok
by doing that and using a word that, depending upon
your skin color, you can use. But her skin color
was the wrong skin color. They took away her scholarship.
They took away her scholarship because she used the N word.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Don't you get tired of that?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
This is why, this is why things like Gulf of
America just feel so good, because now we can say
this is what it feels like left when you do it. Yeah,
it's just that stupid and arbitrary, and the next guy
will change it to the next thing.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But you guys made up this rule.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You made up this rule that that we're going to
change words every five years. A person isn't colored, A
person is a person of color.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I'm around this a lot in.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
The disabled community because they are very big on what
they call person first wording person of color. Now we
speak English in America. It's one of our strengths that
we have a shared language from coast to coast, and
that means we can pick up the phone and talk
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to someone effortlessly anywhere in this giant country of ours.
That gives us a huge competitive advantage to Oh, I
don't know most other places in the world, like Europe,
where they have to know five different languages just to
be able to talk to people in the same geographic area.
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And in English, the modifier goes before the noun. You
have a cold beer, you have a hot cup of coffee.
But when you speak in Spanish you do it the
other way around. You have a beer cold and a
coffee hot. Well, with person first language, we do it
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not like English. So instead of a colored person, we
were supposed to have a person of color. And with
people who have Down syndrome like my son, they're not
down kids. My son isn't a DOWNS kid. Why because
he has to be a kid with Down syndrome. It
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has to be longer.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Why.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I have no frickin' idea. But the idea is, oh,
we put the emphasis on we put the emphasis on
the person.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
They can't even keep it straight because they have a
trans woman or a trans man. Well, no, if it's
gonna be person first, it has to be a person
of trans It has to be a person of transgender.
That's how stupid it sounds. But we have to play
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these new verbal games. And these verbal games change all
the time, and it's awful, and they get longer and
longer and longer.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Just pick one.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I told you my son I have a down sun. No,
I have a son of Downs. He's not allowed to
have any normal friends. Let me say it again, he's
not allowed to have any normal friends. Oh, he's allowed
to now have typical friends. The word normal is out
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of vogue, like news news speak. It gets changed willy nilly.
But he's allowed to have typical friends. Oh, it gets
even better. Then they have changed from typical to neuro typical,
which is a nice way of saying he's not retarded.
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And people who are retarded, which was a fine word,
a medical word, but it is now out of favor.
They have to use terms like neuro divergent. Oh yeah,
he's neuro divergent. What does that mean? It means he's retarded.
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But those names change. It used to be terms like
idiot and moron were medical terms to indicate somebody's intelligence. Well,
now are those are slang terms and their mean words.
Here's the one that worked in the right direction, the
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word gay. It used to be that someone was a homosexual.
That's a lot of syllables. Homosexual, that's for syllables. And
then they co opted the word gay, which used to
be a wonderful word. People could quote be gay, which
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means they had a lighthearted time. The intro for the
Flintstones will have a gay old time.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh we all got together and were gay.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Well, you can't say that anymore because it's got sexual overtones.
The word was co opted, it was stolen, and for
people of older generations they look at this and hear
it and go they stole a beautiful word. We cannot
use that word anymore. For the way we used to
use that word.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
What a shame. What goes around comes around.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
A lot of younger people are using the word gay
as stupid, not as a slur, but.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
As an insult. God, this is so gay. Oh, this
movie's so gay. No, not that it's effeminine. It's just stupid.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And if you're a gay activist, you can't be angry
with that because your team stole the word. Now somebody
else is stealing the word, deal with it. The word gay,
I think stuck around in.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Such a long time is because it's one syllable. It's easy.
It's easy. It's not like transgendered, neuro divergent. No, it's
one word.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's one syllable, so it's got more lasting power. I
wish the left would decide what terms they want to
use and just stick to it. Wouldn't that be wouldn't
that be nice? So the bill that's going through the
state legislature, I think, I think it is thirteen twelve.
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I'll pull it up here, would tell us what words
we can and cannot use. It is truly Orwellian, it
is truly wildly or Wellian. And you would have to
you'd have to be able to use you'd have to
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be able to use what they consider to be the
right gender, and the right gender is what someone decides
and they can change it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yes, and it is.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Legal protections for for transgender individuals.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It defines dead naming and misgendering as discriminatory acts in
the Colorado Anti Discrimination Act prohibits these discriminary acts in
places of public accommodation, and then in italics they've had.
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Although the bill does not prevent a public entity from
using an individual's legal name when required to do solved
by law to ensure that the identity of the individual
can be verified or the other information pertaining to the
individuals needed for legal or other legitimate public purposes can
be attained. What so you could be punished for calling
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a man a man? I find a law like this
so very hateful, so very hateful that controlling speech is made,
is made to control the way we think. Every totalitarian
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regime controls language, controls education, controls your kids more than
the parents us. It is a step. It is a
step towards totalitarianism, and it's a step towards thought control.
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When the government tells you what words you can use,
when society shames you for using the words you wish
to use. It's really a form of thought control. Canceling
and shame have forever been the tools of thought control,
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not to an Amish country. And if you do something
outside of the norm, you are shamed and you are shunned,
and it's a remarkably effective punishment. Because we are creatures
that are social, we cannot stand being completely alone all
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the time. It's one of the reasons why the left
says you can't put people in solitary confinement. But when
you shun people for calling someone who has a penis
a man, isn't that exactly what you're doing. Isn't that
exactly what you're doing? Give me a call on this
three h three seven one three eight two five five
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seven one three talk.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Should this bill become a law?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And it makes misgendering someone a discriminatory act under Colorado's
Anti Discrimination Act, meaning you could be punished. You'll have
to spend your legal time defending your speech. What is
truly Orwellian about this is that you can speak the truth.
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Remember in Orwell's nineteen eighty four when Big Brother said
two plus two equals four. Not only must you recite
that back, but you have to believe it, and they
say two plus two equals four.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But it doesn't. It's not true, it's not right.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
And Big Brother says, yeah, it is right, and if
you don't agree with us, you will be punished.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Into submission.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, this law says you have to look at someone
who has an x Y chromosome and say that he
is a woman, and if you don't, we will punish you.
In other words, telling the truth becomes a deviant act.
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Telling the truth becomes illegal. Telling the truth gets you punished.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
This is the America, this is the Colorado in which
we now live. I didn't think i'd lived to see it,
and I still got some time left. And we think
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But when our kids are raised with it, it'll just
be normal.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And two plus two will equal For.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
John, Hey, I have a question. Why is it at
the LGBTQI plus et cetera. Folks have a big bulk
flag whereas the vast majority of US have no flag
at all. In that context, I don't understand. Can you
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give me your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
What a great question.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So Vaaldemir Archiletta is the head of the log Cabin Republicans,
which is the gay Republican group, and he he gave
me a term that I had never heard before. He
called it rainbow fatigue. And here's a gay guy who
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says I am tired of the rainbows. He said, I've
got rainbow fatigue. And then he came up with.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Another term that I hadn't heard and I loved. He said, listen,
I am just a straight gay guy. What what do you?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
A straight gay guy? Yeah, I'm just I'm just a
regular gay guy. I'm I'm not a I'm not a letter.
I don't have my own personal identification. Is this that
the I don't have a special flag and all? He said,
Every weird fetish has their own flag these days, and
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I'm just fatigued by it. He also went on to say,
and I did love this, that he feels used because
during Gay Pride Month, every business pips out the gay
Pride flag, the rainbow flag, and it's for business and
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they're they're pandering, and it's like this, this is nuts.
I find it tiring, And as a gay man, he said,
I find it. I find it really insulting and I'm
tired of it.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And then he told me I love this.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
He said, I can walk around the streets of Denver
wearing a rainbow baseball cap, a gay Pride flag or
a trans Pride flag or uh, you know, a lesbian
Pride flat or whatever the flag.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Is on my baseball cap, and I feel okay.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I wear a Trump hat and I feel unsafe.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Think of that.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Here's a guy who runs great guy, really wonderful guy,
and he runs the gay Republican group. He says, yeah,
being gay, I don't feel any danger being gay. Wearing
a Trump hat. I feel like somebody's gonna come up
and hit me in the face.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
What does that say? Hey, I'm John Caldera in for
Michael Brown. Give me a call three h three seven
one three eight two five five, which conveniently spells out.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Seven to one three talk.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's almost like they planned it that way. The guy
I left the feedback said, what's what's our flag? There
is a straight guy flag because every day is children's Day. God,
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I hated that when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Mom when's children's Day? You have Mom's Day and there's
Father's Day on day. Every day is children's day.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Well, every day is straight white guy's day, so you
get no flag. I wonder if that changes when white
people become the minority, which is inevitable. The browning of
America is happening. And I don't care. I care about
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what people value that concerns me. I can turn us
slipping into a socialistic state. I do not care about
us turning into a brown state. And we're so fortunate
in America that overwhelmingly our illegal immigration coming in is
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from Mexico, from Latin America, which is a Spanish speaking
but remarkably hard working, multi generational, largely Catholic group of people.
Imagine the similar thing that is happening in Europe, where
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it's mostly Muslims with a very different ideology than a
very different shared culture than what they're going to. Europe
is changing, and the backlash from the unchecked immigration is
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causing issues. Let me give you a case in point.
This is from the ap Hungry pass this constitutional amendment
to ban LGBTQ plus public events.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
This is awful.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Hungary's parliament on Monday passed an amendment to the constitution
that allows the government to ban events by lgb Q
plus communities, a decision that legal scholars and critics call
another step towards authoritarianism by the populist government.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, let me join in.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
That crowd started off with good morning, talking about Senate
or a House Bill thirteen twelve which makes telling the
truth a crime and if you misgender someone you can
be punished.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That speech control.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Every good Democrat should be screaming against it. Everyone. The
Democrats of Yore would never put up with such speech codes. Well,
in the same way, let me speak up that this
amendment in Hungary is scary.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
This amendment, which requires a two thirds vote, passed along
party lines one hundred and forty votes four and only
twenty one against. Ahead of the vote the final step
for the amendment, opposition politicians and other protesters attempted to
blockade the entrance to Parliament's parking garage. Police physically removed
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demonstrators who use zip ties to bind themselves together. There's
a joke there, but I'm not going for it. The
amendment declares that children's rights to moral, physical, and spiritual
development supersede any right other than the right to life,
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including to peaceably assemble.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Think about that one for a second.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
A children's right to a moral, physical, and spiritual development
supersedes your right to peaceably assemble.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Thank God.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
In America, in our constitution we have it's spelled out.
We have a right to peaceably assemble until, of course,
somebody says there's a virus outbreak, and then then we
can outlaw it. Hungary's contentions child protection legislation prohibits the
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quote depiction or promotion of homosexualities homosexuality to minors under eighteen.
The amendment codifies a law fast tracked through parliament in
March that bans public events held by LGBTQ plus communities,
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including the popular Pride event in Budapest that draws thousands annually.
The law also allows authorities to use this This is terrifying.
The law also allows authorities to use facial recognition tools
to identify people who attend prohibited events such as Budapest Pride,
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and comes with fines of up to five hundred and
fifty dollars. American dude, do you get why this is
so very wrong? Those of us who are tired of
the trans agenda, those of us who are tired of
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identity politics, those of us who are tired of indoctrinating
our children in schools into the lgbt qia plus worldview,
need to be the one to stand up and say
this is unacceptable. This does not work, because we need
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to be the ones to say and disagree with what
you say. I defend to my death your right to
say it. Now, this is a reaction to gender madness
and woke ideology, and people in pushing those views should
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see this as a warning sign as well that their
views are so out of step and out of step,
counter reaction is likely.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
This is going to happen. I don't want that to happen.
Let me be really clear.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I am sickened by the trans indoctrination that goes on
in public schools.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I am mortified.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
By the speech controls the trans movement is putting into
America and the shaming, shunning. And now if this bill
passes legal punishment for free speech. That being said, I
got to protect everyone's right to identify how they like.
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You want to identify as a check, more power to you. Now.
You might not believe me when I say it, but
it's true. I will defend your right to do so.
You should you want to wear a skirt and makeup,
go wear a skirt and makeup. More power to you.
And I mean that quite sincerely. You do, you baby,
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that's America, and we've got to protect that. Civil liberties
is about protecting people you don't agree with. It's easy
to protect people you don't agree with. That's why we
pass laws against tobacco, and now laws against guns, and
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tax increases against guns, and taxing wealthy people and taxing
people who come into town with hotel taxes. It's easy
to screw other people. It's easy to vote against the
political minority. But we need to be the ones that
protect the political minority. That's what our job is. I
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don't smoke. I protect smokers' rights. Though I'm thrilled that
in Denver folks are putting this ridiculous vaping ban back
on the ballot.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
City council says.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Oh, we don't like your lifestyle, and those of us
who don't smoke need to come out and say no,
that's wrong. If people want to vape, they have a
right to vape. Somebody wants to dress away, we don't
like they have that right too.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Tell me I'm wrong on this one.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I want someone to disagree with me on this because,
unlike progressives.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I invite dissent.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I want to hear the other side give me a
call three oh three seven one three eight, two five
five seven one three talk. I'm John KELDERA and for
the big man, keep it here. You're on six thirty kow.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
It is really sad in our society that a certain
group of people can determine what words mean and what
words are acceptable and not the same group of people
who was not happy with the Gulf of America are
the ones that told us we can't have Aunt Jemima
on pancake syrup, we can't have the Indian on Land
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of Lakes butter, et cetera. It just becomes exhausting to
keep up with this insanity.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
So well put, exhausting is the right word.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm John Kelderrek, give me a call three h three
seven one three.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Eight two five five and please.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
But also don't think we get to keep mister Clean
though he's oh yeah, and those guys are fine.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
But Uncle Ben he's gone, Uncle Ben gone, Orlando Lake's gone.
Come on, mister Clean. How to put it, He's just
scary man. He he looks like the orderly from an
old time mental institution. He's got all white and you
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don't miss with mister Clean. Why can't mister clean be black?
What what I'm missing that?
Speaker 4 (32:41):
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Miss?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
How come they didn't do with what they did with?
But Betty Crocker, the brownie guy is still there. I
think the brownie guy is overcompensating. Every time I see
the browny guy, all I hear is is comone python
singing the Lumberjack song. Yeah, people who know it know it?
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Three or three seven one, three eight two five five?
Who else did we lose? Betty Crocker turned from a
white woman to a multi racial woman. Uncle Ben's is gone?
Is it is Uncle Ben really gone?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
It's now like General Oates or I can't it's it's
it's the company's name instead of the Uncle Ben.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
What about that weird Quaker on Quaker Oats? Oh he's
still there? Well, how is he still there?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Indians are gone, but but that weird puritan is is
still on there.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
There's something wrong with that guy.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You look at that, You look at the guy on
the Quaker Oats box, It's like, I Am not leaving.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
My kid alone with that guy.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
There's just something seriously creepy about him. And and what
a do we still have the Lucky the from Lucky
Charms The Eye yeah, they're still good. And Captain Crunch,
which is just an insult to all navy men.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Really, well, that's because.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
It's captain, So it's not a full captain, it's just captain.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
It's capin. Yeah, yeah, take a look at it next time.
It's that captain crunch. Correct.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
How did he earn a commission in the United States Navy?
I first, and you wonder what's wrong with our military?
Captain Crunch is a perfect, perfect example of that. I
can't believe we lost Lando Lakes. I thought I thought
the Native American they had on Lando Lakes was a classy, classy.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Depiction.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Oh, let's not forget we got the the creama wheat guy.
He's gone to the black guy on Kareama wheat. They
take him off.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
We got rid of the black and cream of weed. Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So we've got still a neo Nazi looking guy cleaning
our toilets with mister clean, but everything else is gone.
And do you think maybe we'll have the same race
couple and a commercial sometime in our lifetime that probably
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out we can tell our kids about it all. Right,
back after this, I want to talk about the stamp
going up