4-30-25 - 8am - The Art of War - Sun Tzu

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Library, nuclear irregardless, have a good day. Oh, I was
doing okay till I got to irregardless, And that one
just yeah, that's one I will not joke about. I
won't joke about irregardless in the dictionary. It's fine, is it?

(00:21):
In the dictionary? It is?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh my god, it's one of the words they added, like,
you know, three or four years ago.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's awful. Shame on them for that. Sun Zu, the
Chinese military strategist, born what I don't know, five hundred beasts.
It can or be I don't know something BC the
his thinking distilled in the in the book The Art

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of War. So here we are, I don't know, more
than two thousand years later, twenty five years later, whatever
whatever's birthday was. Well, that book is a staple text
not only in every military war college across the entire globe.
I'm just our in our academies, but all across the world.

(01:10):
But it's also in the business world. If you have
not read the Art of War, it's it's one of
those that if you're going to read, you know, ten
books in your lifetime, it ought to be in the
top ten. And I think that says a lot and
people observe, and I think rightfully so that Trump has

(01:33):
an uncanny ability to see ahead, to kind of remain
one step ahead of his adversaries. You saw and you
saw that tenacity, or you heard that tenacity. You didn't
see it unless you watched it. You heard that tenacity
in that interview with Terry Moran at ABC News. Now,

(01:58):
I don't know. I I guess I could ask chat
GBT or somebody, but I don't know whether Trump has
ever mentioned that he's read the Art of War or not.
But or there's just some inaneability to analyze and strategize

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like sun Zoo or both. One's find one finds Art
of War parallels with Trump's navigation of the political and
now what's going on in the judicial minefield. Even before
the November fifth election, there were reports that the progressive Left,

(02:46):
the Marxists, the Democrats, of the Communists and socialists. But
I repeat myself, if they were preparing a lawfair campaign
for immediate deployment, like they had the lawyers all lined up,
the law firms had all been you know, all all
of the retainers have been paid to lock up all
of the law firms so that they would have a

(03:07):
conflict of vengance, They couldn't do anything to help the administration,
and they often, you know, presidents and their administrations often
rely on outside council to supplement what they had, you know,
the manpower they have within the Department of Justice or
in particular specialized areas. All that was done pre November

(03:31):
five just in case Trump might be successful, which I
find hilarious because they really did believe. I think that
many Democrats honestly did believe that they would win despite
all of the cluster that occurred from well well before

(03:51):
the first debate between Trump and Biden, all the way
through to the other debates, and all the way up
to up to election day. And what was the purpose
of that. The intent and the purpose was pretty clear
to hobble the newly elected administration. Now, don't you find
that kind of interesting because those are the same people

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that kept screaming somewhat during the Biden administration, but particularly
during Trump's first term and then during the campaign about
respecting democracy. We got to respect our democracy, We've got
to preserve, got to save our democracy. Yet here they
are lining up lawyer after lawyer after lawyer after lawyer

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so they can once again engage or I should say
re engage to be more specific, to re engage in
lawfair against the president that's not respecting democracy at all.
As I was getting dressed this morning, I had katvar
on and they were interviewing Phil Wiser, the Colorado ter

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in general, and he was giddy about the number of
state I think I think you mentioned twenty two states
that they they're they're all really well coordinated, he says.
In some of these cases, we're you know, Colorado's taking
the lead, and another and and where we're taking the lead.

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We've got twenty even in other states that are helping us,
and in other states they're taking the lead, and then
we're helping them in those and twenty one other states,
including Colorado, are helping them. He was giddy about the lawfare.
We're we're attacking Trump on every front we can possibly find.
That's the guy that wants to be governor too. By
the way, so they are no longer trying to like

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with Russia, Russia, Russia, They're no longer trying to be
subtle about it. They're they're out in the open about it.
They are out to stop what you and I the
majority of Americans voted for. So if they ever again
say something about protecting our democracy, you know, tell them

(06:09):
to shut the f up, because that's not what they're doing.
I don't think I need to recount in detail the
lawfare that is now rampant, with judge shopped federal district
court judges all across the country issuing all these unprecedented,
off the scale, almost tsunami size, nationwide injunctions, and they're

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blocking everything coming from the administration. And so far a
Supreme Court engaged in at least collusive in action regarding
all that lawfare, the massive degradation of standards, and I

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would even go so far as to even say ethics
within law schools, the bar itself, and even or critically
the judiciary. I it's culturalist, Marxist fundamental transformation into political
activists instead of impartial juris. You have to look no

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further than that judging Wisconsin, the judge in Wisconsin who
helped a wanted illegal alien abscond and try to attempt
to escape from the jaws of justice trying to be

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implemented by immigrations and customs enforcement. But their lack of
being impartial juris is a topic. Well, we'll do that
in depth later, but here I want to incorporate some
quotes from sun Zoo accompanied by comments that I think

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illustrate how those same printiples are being employed by Trump
and the coalition around trump sons who said victory comes
from finding opportunities in problems. Man, it's a great lesson
just for life, you know. And I know oftentimes all

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these kind of self help and self realization things are
easily said and very difficult to implement, but there's always
a fundamental truth in it. And there's a fundamental truth
in that victory often comes from finding opportunities in those problems.
Look at the problem as an opportunity. How do I
turn this around? How do I approach this differently? Up

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until now, the Trump responds to this day lose this
flood of lawfare through the Pambondi Department of Justice has
been a seemingly workmanlike, almost pedestrian, yet defensive posture conventional
response through that seemingly ever more compromised federal judiciary. This

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is fighting the bad guys on their chosen urf. Yet
this what I would consider to be a conventional response.
Sun Zoo like might be maybe by design, but maybe
it's not. The Marxists still control the legacy media. The

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Cabal still exists, and the Kebal is really if you've
thought over the course, I don't how long I've been
using the term cabal, but probably at least through the
Biden administration, maybe probably back even during the Obama administration.
But they really do control the legacy news media. Academia

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has become an integral part of the cabal. The entertainment
industry and all these insufferable NGOs and the nonprofit foundations
and those, they all still possess massive power, massive influence,
although I think it's weakening somewhat, thank goodness, but they

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the cabal still does exist. And the Cabal, I think,
is so discombobulated by the effect that Trump two point
zero is having that they're becoming much more open about
what they're doing. This whole lawfare infrastructure that the Cabal

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represents has been built up for decades from the as
the American Civil Liberties Union, which is Stalinist rooted when
you really look at it. The core to Norm Eisen's
latest operation, which is the State Democracy Defenders. That is,
when he's not confording with Chief Justice John Roberts, I guess,

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and of course you got Mark Elias. He's still out there.
So all those Democrat operaties are still out there, and
they're they're acting as these giant orchestra orchestra conductors of
the cabal and their law fare attempts to shut down
the Trump administration. And you know what we get. We
have to be honest, they're currently enjoying some amazing success.

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They're roadblocking the Trump administration courtesy of these road federal judges.
So if, if indeed victory comes from finding opportunities and problems,
what would sons who say, now hold out baits to

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entice the enemy fain fake if you will feign disorder
and then crush the enemy, so disrupt the cabal's comfort
in their success, disrupt their confidence and victory successes that

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you've allowed to play out, enticing them to reveal their forces.
For example, we're seeing that within the federal judiciary even
so far now we're seeing it in the state judiciaries.
And then expend your ammunition only then responding with the
unconventional such as an offensive maneuver from an oblique angle,

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one which the adversaries did not expect and which the
adversary was not prepared for something completely out of left field.
And I think that brings us to the effect of
the arrest last week of two state court judges that

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was indeed feigned disorder kind of enticed them. I don't
know how long they've known about the judge in New Mexico.
I don't really care whether it was they knew about
it for twenty four hours and then and then came
down on them, whether they knew about it, I actually
think they knew about it for longer than what we realized,
because somehow, and I haven't delved into the details, but somehow,

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the New Mexico Supreme Court was able to act pretty
quickly to bar that judge from ever serving in a
judicial position again, which means that somebody had to have
filed a complaint. Somebody had to filed a judicial complaint
with the New Mexico State Bar Association, which then looked
at it and took it to the New Mexico Supreme Court,

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or New Mexico might actually have a direct line between
a complainant and the Supreme Court, but they whatever that
route was to get to the New Mexico Supreme Court.
Last they acted pretty quickly within the arrest came, and

(14:08):
the arrests of the Wisconsin judge, at least as best
I can tell, was immediate on the spot, kind of like, oh,
you're going to do that, well, uh, let us read
your Miranda rights and put your hands behind your back,

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and we're going to walk out to the to the
waiting car which was waiting for I assume there will
probably at least two cars, one for the defendant that
they were going to, the illegal alien they were going
to take, and then one for the judge that they
were going to take, or if they needed to take
the judge, or maybe they just have two cars anyway,
But anyway, it certainly felt filled the the tenant of

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sun Zou that you that hold out baits to entice
the enemy, you kind of just wait your turn. You
kind of feign all this disorder. We have all these
injunctions there are not really sure to do. But then
you're crushing and you took the surprising action. In conflict,
sun Zoo wrote in conflict, straightforward actions generally lead to engagement.

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Surprising actions generally lead to victory. And I think that's
what those arrests were. The Trump Department of Justice arrest
is not one but two rogue state court judges. And
you cannot imagine even I mean, I've obviously not practiced

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law for quite some time, but even I can I
find it fascinating. I can daydream all day long about
you know, judges in state court houses, judges in federal
court houses. They see each other, They mingle, They might,

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you know, go have lunch together. They you know, see
each other in the hallways. They have conferences. They have
administrative conferences where they sit down with the clerk and
their clerks and they talk about the administration of the courts,
and you I can just imagine the conversations that went
on about I mean, I'm sure there was outrage, and

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I'm certain there was also am I next? And what
am I doing? And to some degree that would cause
some judges to pause at least a little bit. So
I think that at least within the magnation, if I

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can call them, that there's probably some joy. And then
there's obviously the concurrent outrage by the usual suspects, among
the Marxists, among the Democrats, among you know, the all
of the cabal, MSNBC, CNN, all of them they're all upset.
Terry Moran, he's upset. They're all suffering from the vapors,

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even as they attempt to countermove with declarations of Trump
being above the law. He's threatening our democracy again. And
they're fleeing the word fascism around like anti aircraft, you know,
chase that's going around everywhere. They're scared. I truly believe
they're scared, but they're trying to hide it with false bravado.

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The and I don't support q Andon, but q has
a phrase, the hunters will become the hunted. I'm not
saying that they're connected. I'm just saying that that phrase,
the hunters will become the hunted, kind of comes to mind.
And those state judges in the grand scheme of things,
where they are the small fish, but those in arrests

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are more significant than I think it's generally recognized, because
son Zoo also said this, the heighthest strategy is to
attack your opponent's strategy.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
It's so funny they're saying, oh, Donald Trump arrested a judge,
so you're not mad about that. You're mad that Donald
Trump arrested your judge. I mean they would have they
would have hung Kavanaugh u by his ankles if they
got the chance.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Jeez, no, they would have didn't. They got the guy
had Do you have a gun in a rope? The
guy they arrested outside Kavanaugh's home, he was there, he
was yeah. I don't know. For some reason, it was
a knife in a rope or a gun in a rope,
I forget which it was, but he was there. He
was there to take Kevin on stringing up. I guess
before I gave back to sun Zoo this text. There

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are two text messages that I want to address. Yeah,
of course, the art of the deal is a playoff
the art of the War eighty nine seventy seven rights. Michael.
This the arrest of the Wisconsin judge was either a
warrantless arrest based on probable cause, or two they took

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it to a federal judge and got a warrant to
arrest her. Either way, a judge had to sign approve
the arrest warrant. The media is not talking about this.
It was signed off by a judge because in fact,
I think we even I read part of the complaint
on air, because I got a copy downloaded. A copy
of the complaint and the arrest warrant and it was

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signed off by a judge. So that was text number one.
Text number two. You were number of sixty seven to
seventy five, Mike. I grew up in Colorado, but escaped
Wyoming a few years back with my wife. I just
got home from being in Denver for two weeks, and
I am appalled at how bad it has gotten. Homeless

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people everywhere, trash along every roadway one of my big
pet peeves, and the blatant contempt everyone has for one
another make it unrecognizable from the place A lot of
us remember. With my daughter just turning to I cannot
imagine raising her in that environment. The Colorado that we
once knew seems gone have a good one. Gentlemen, stay safe.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
But you get free pre K.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
You get free pre K.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yesk yees access.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
To you get access to free pre K. And I'll
get to it later. But the Denver Post Dragon left
a story on the console that says new Colorado report
says homelessness across the state is not as widespread as
previously thought. I misread the headline. I'm sorry. A new

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Colorado report says homelessness across the state is more widespread
than previously thought. We'll get to that in a minute.
So back to sun Zoo. The art of war. The
height of strategy is to it at your opponent's strategy.

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So the arrest of the judges, what does that do? Well?
How many times did we hear during Trump one point zero?
Worry for that matter, during the campaign, but particularly during
the Law Fair, whether it was Georgia, Florida, DC, or

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New York. Oh, we can't wait to see him frog march.
All the memes Trump in a prison jumpsuit, all the
memes of Trump and handcuffs, all the memes of Trump
being frog marched out to a waiting vehicle or a
paddy wagon. Oh wait a minute, So that was just

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a meme that never happened. But that was the strategy
that was Those were the hopes of the Marxist. Oh
if we can only get him in handcuffs. Well, So
go back to sun Zoo. The highest strategy is to
attack your opponent's strategy. Go back to Q. I hate,

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but I think it's appropriate here. I hate using Q,
but I think it fits. Are the Law Fair hunters
becoming the hunted, Because if you're a federal judge who
has been engaged in X party meaning one sided communication
just with you know, the plaintiffs that are suing Trump.

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If you've been engaged in X part A communications much less,
maybe you've been engaged in coordination with the lawyers engaged
in lawfare, or the ngails or whoever they are, if
not directly, but oh maybe through using family members as intermediaries.
Member Judge Juan Peshan, whatever his name was, one Mershamudge Marshaan.

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How quickly we forgot remember Judge Mrshawn his daughter uh
an activist for the Democrat Party, a contractor with the
Democrat Party. Huh, maybe they are engaged in coordination. If
you're engaged in any of those things acts part A, communications, coordination,

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family members, through NGOs, using intermediaries, whatever you are, suddenly
you're probably laying awake at night thinking did I cross
the line? Am I too close to the line? And
if you're you know, as the saying goes, if you're
finding yourself in a hole, you likely are not going

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to be inclined to keep digging. I, judge, I would
think would be smart enough to know, maybe I have
to stop digging here. So if you're laying in bed
and you are thinking about who I remember, I actually
talked to the lawyer from the ACLU, and I didn't
tell the Department of Justice about it. Or actually, I

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actually did talk to that lawyer for the NNGO, but
I didn't talk to the Department of Justice lawyer about it.
I engaged in ex party communications. Or yeah, I did
talk to my daughter about what was going on in
the courtroom. Hmm. If you're on the law fair plaintive

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side of the bar, you're the one suing the administration,
and you're now appearing before judges that are probably no
longer as enthusiastic as they were before. And maybe you're
not sleeping as well either. Indeed, you might have started
having some nightmares about some of those federal judges starting

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to negotiate plea deals to oh, I don't know, maybe
resign with their pensions intact in return for agreeing to
testify against you for what you've been doing. That all
might destroy the willingness to continue engaging in lawfare. And
before I get to the next sun Zuo Tenant, think

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about this. Democrats are still in disarray. I mean they're
in total disarray. Yesterday we made fun of JB. Pritzker,
the governor of Illinois out you know, we played the
sound bites of him. You know that you ought to
take your your two year old or three year old
to a pride parade or to a drag queen show,
or to a to a transgender doctor or whatever. And

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he's talking about how you know, you got to make
it so that, you know, the Republicans have a difficult
time sleeping at night. You make them feel really uncomfortable.
And you've got all the others out there talking about
getting in our faces and really disrupting things. Hmm, maybe
they're starting to Maybe that's a sign that they're worrying

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that the lawfare is not going to go as planned,
which is a great transition to the next sun Zo.
You don't have to destroy your enemy. You only have
to destroy his willingness to engage. You don't have to
destroy the enemy, only the enemy's willingness to engage. There

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has been I think I've detected I've heard text messages
from you, comments from friends, a lot of angst among
MAGA people regarding, for example, the as of yet non
occurrence of criminal prosecutions for those responsible for Russia Gate,

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or the stolen election, or the January sixth, the fabricated insurrection,
or where are the Epstein files? You know, are the
arrests for people that you know, what's happened with Fauci
and everything from COVID, all of the soul called vaccines,
the lawsuits against them, but even the non meritorious impeachments,

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what about that? The list just goes on and on
and on, and I understand I'm frustrated too about some
of these things. I want to know, for example, where's
where the congressional investigations about Liz Cheney and the destruction
of documents? And where are the Epstein files? I mean,

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I truly the more that they don't come out, I
really had very little of any interest in the Epstein files.
But the more I'm told that, oh, we were told
they were going to be released, and then the longer
we go without them being released, the more curious, the
curiouser and curiouser I become like, why tell me why?

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And why is somebody asking you about it? There's just
so much of that kind of stuff. So I know
there's angst among Trump supporters, but such as the intentional
invasion of our border distribution of illegal aliens and criminals
and terrorists throughout the entire nation. Similarly, the as yet

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failure to release the Epstein client list and the prosecutions
of those people kind of gets to the next point
about sun Zu. Hence that general is skillful in attack
whose opponent does not know what to defend, and he
is skillful in defense whose opponent does not know what

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to attack. So the Trump administration is signaling, not actually
doing it yet, just signaling that it will go there
with those judges. But maybe it's not in ways anticipated,
such as they expect a move to pursue impeachment proceedings
in Congress, which would just be spun as retribution and

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anti democratic and obviously fascists. Similarly, the totality of incriminating
evidence obtained by Musk and Doge, even just so far
it's not public, but presumably in the possession of Bondi's
DJ and Patel's FBI. I think it's safe to say

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the bad guys probably never saw Doze coming. Another oblique
movement maneuver which sun Zu would say, do that, which
was not expected, and then I would just stop with this.
As a lawyer, you want to make sure that when

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you start your criminal prosecution, which many of these would
be criminal prosecutions, you've got to have everything lined up.
You've seen that, whether it's Bosh or any other I
don't watch the CSI series, but you know that there's
always a tug of war between law enforcement and the

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lawyers about do we have the case buttoned up? Cops
usually think so, Lawyers usually don't think it's quite there yet.
We need this, or we need something extra, or here's
what they're going to defend, here's how they're going to
create reasonable doubt. We got to overcome that. So there's
always this tension between the law enforcement people, the FBI
and the DOJ, and so I imagine there's a lot

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of that going on right now too. So I would say,
just take a deep fight, a deep breath, because, as
sun Zou said, in desperation, you must fight. I don't
think we're in desperation yet. We're only one hundred days in.

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It's just one hundred days in. Take a deep breath.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
To the talkbacker who is surprised that Michael Brown and
Dragon have a certain amount of passive aggressiveness, well, just
like what Dragon always says, you must be new here, and.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yet they just keep coming back dragon. As you know,
maybe maybe we're practicing a little bit of the art
of war here. Just keep coming at them from different directions,
just keep attacking, attacking your audience, and they just keep
fighting back, which just makes for great radio. Yep, makes

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for great radio. Casually, earlier in the program about the
polls and how I don't really believe the polls, Well,
I'm in good company. Chuck Schumer suggests that the border
is secure or is not secure, and he doesn't trust

(32:00):
the numbers. Okay, well, what about your numbers? What do
you feel about those in people who hate what Trump
is proposing you?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, has your consional leaders seventeen per second? Are you
maybe a life so there's a there's a new poll
out today, mister minority leader that has your approval rating
of seventeen percent. Seventeen percent, any young confressional.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Leader seventeen percent?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Are you maybe a liability for your paroles? Are you
concerned that you might be a liability for your party?
A liability for your paroles? Come and go. Our party
is united. We're on our front foot.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
We're stepping forward and going after Trump and having real success.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yes, Oh so polls come and go when it comes
to your numbers, But when it comes to Trump's numbers,
well that's an entirely different thing. I don't trust those
numbers or the White.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
House play that legal calls about ninety don't plays called the.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Ninos for action relation to the fee. When you are
under fighting.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Administration, I'd say one thing to you, I don't trust
Trump's numbers.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
He doesn't trust the numbers. Oh, but the polls show
that you had the leadership is at seventeen percent approval rating. Well,
polls come and go. You know, the numbers just come
and go. I mean, you know, we're we're doing everything.
We're fighting, fighting, fighting, I love the chaos. I utterly
love the KOs