5-17-25 The Weekend Hour 1: Axios & CNN Release Audio of Biden’s Deposition With Robert Hur

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA director talk
show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Brownie, Now, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job.

Speaker 4 (00:07):
The Weekend with Michael Brown.

Speaker 5 (00:09):
Hey broadcasting life from Denver, Colorado. It's the Weekend with
Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me. I appreciate
you tuning in. I want to assure you today that
I have all my faculties. I other than as as
I tend to do. I mispronounced words a lot because
I'm always talking too fast and my brain's always you know,
four steps ahead over my mouth is uh and I

(00:30):
uh fairly. You know, I've done an okay memory. There's
a lot of stuff that I when I think about
all of the crap that I've dealt with in my lifetime,
there are things that will caused me to go, now,
where did I Where did that happen?

Speaker 6 (00:48):
You know?

Speaker 5 (00:49):
I was talking to a friend yesterday about the situation
where we were talking about UH communist China, and in
the course of the story, it reminds me me of
a moment that I'd had in conversation with someone from
Hong Kong and as he's talking about because he's dealt
a lot in communist China. I'm thinking to myself, where

(01:11):
the hell did I have this conversation with? And it
was a woman about Hong Kong because she had and
and suddenly, you know, I shouldn't say suddenly, but as
I'm scraping through my brain trying to figure out where
that stupid memory is, it dawns on me all of
a sudden boom.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
It was at dinner one night, and somehow I got
into a conversation with a woman that appeared to be
from China because I'd finally asked her, because she still
spoke with a very heavy Chinese accent, I had said,
I'd asked her the question, I said, have you recently
moved here? Or where are you from? You know, where's
your family from? You know, is it China or Taiwan,
or you know, is it Singapore or you know what,

(01:50):
whatever it is. And she started going into a whole
conversation about her family escaping from Hong Kong. Back in
the OH, I would say it was probably the early nineties,
probably right before I think it was maybe nineteen ninety eight.
I forget the exact year when the Britz turned over
Hong Kong the to China. It was going to be

(02:13):
one nation but two systems. Eh, Chinese lied. We were
funny about it. But anyway, I say all of that
to remind you that, yeah, I know that occasionally I
forget things and it takes me a minute too, you know,
because so many things, so many stories in my head
from all the world travels and everything else. Then every
once in a while, it takes me a few moments
to figure out, now, where the hell I hear? What

(02:35):
was that story? But I do remember the story, and
I remember significant dates. I tell you the one thing
I don't recall, and I bet you don't either. I
bet you don't know if you have kids, I bet
you don't know their phone number. The only reason I
know my mom's phone number is because they've had that

(02:56):
same number since they've lived in that house since nineteen
sixty nine, and so I kind of remember that phone number.
But my children, I don't remember their phone numbers anymore.
I do remember my wife's number, but I don't know why.
There are a few numbers I have in my phone,
numbers that I have in my head that I can recall,
but almost all the numbers that I used to remember.

(03:19):
I no longer remember why the same reason you don't
remember them because they're just somebody's name in your smartphone.
They're either in your favorites, and I have I don't know,
maybe a dozen favorites. No, you're not one of them,
and the others are all just all of my contacts.
The reason I'm even talking about memory or remembering things

(03:43):
is we had a real bombshell yesterday. I do mean
truly a bombshell hit us. And so we're going to
dive into this story. And the story raises a lot
of tough questions about transparancy, about leadership, and I think

(04:03):
two of the most important things that this story raises
is the issue of the role of the media in
our society, which is often referred to as the fourth estate.
Because we have, you know, we've got the Supreme Court,
we've got Congress, we've got the presidency, and then over
here not really mentioned in the Constitution other than you know,

(04:26):
we're going to we have freedom of the press. In
this country. The fourth estate is considered to be that
group that on behalf of you and me. Don't choke
on your whatever you're eating or drinking right now, but
we depend supposedly were we were going to depend upon them,
according to the founding fathers, to provide us with a

(04:50):
check and balance on what the government was doing. Huh,
what a joke, right, because now the press has become
as much a part of the government, and they become
spokespeople for the government. Whether it's Fox News, which takes

(05:10):
a decidedly conservative point of view, which I happen to
agree with, or whether it's CNN, or it's MSNBC, or
it's the Networks or whomever it might be, or it's
you know, the Denver Post, or it's the Los Angeles Times,
it's the Washington Post, it's the New York Times, or
it's the news section of the Wall Street Journal, as

(05:31):
opposed to the editorial section of the Wall Street Journal.
That fourth estate has absolutely abdicated their role, absolutely abdicated
and the role of leadership in this country. We've been
through a horrific four years that we don't realize just

(05:52):
how horrific it was. Audio clips from Special Councilor Robert
HER's investigation in the President Biden's handling a classified documents
have now at least some of it has now surfaced,
and it really does paint a troubling picture of Biden's

(06:12):
mental state. The clips obtained by Axios released by CNN
and Axios reveal moments of confusion, a lot of rambling
that I found shocking, only shocking in this sense because
we witnessed it. We saw it. It was living in

(06:35):
a true Orwellian world. Where were our eyes and our
ears lying to us? We now know for a fact
that Krean now Abdul Jabbar Kareem Jean Pierre remember her yet?
Surely you haven't forgotten her yet? Remember she was She
was a DEI higher because she happened to be female, black,

(06:58):
and gay, so she fit you know, three categories that
make democrats happy. So we made her or the president.
President Biden made her the press secretary, and despite numerous
questions about was the president confused? Did the president?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know?

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Why did the president fall? Why did he wander off
when he was over in Europe? Why did he do this?
Why did he do that? And she would just attack
the media for asking questions, And then we had the
president himself, after her report came out, just blasted the
special counsel for doing things like how dare he bring

(07:35):
up my son? Bo's death, when in fact, we now
know for a fact that Robert hur didn't bring that up.
Joe Biden brought it up and then couldn't remember anything
about it. So these clips released by CNN and Axios
reveal moments of confusion and rambling that truly are shocking.

(07:57):
But what's just as startling as how the ball handled,
or probably the more appropriate word is mishandled concerns about
Biden's cognitive fitness. So we're going to unpack that story.
You're going to hear the audio. It's somewhat difficult to hear.
I mean it's not I don't mean it's difficult. I
don't mean it's difficult to hear, like hearing your own

(08:18):
mother or your grandfather or your uncle or somebody that's,
you know, descending into dementia. It's it's difficult to listen
to because you realize, oh my gosh, how long was
he like that? What decisions were made while he was
like that? Who made those decisions? And what if, just

(08:41):
what if something horrible had happened in this country, who
would be in charge? Who would have been making decisions
the decisions? So stay tuned because I want to unpack
the story. I want you to hear the audio, and
I want you to go back in time and think
about just what a dangerous, dangerous situation that presented. Don't forget.

(09:03):
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(09:23):
have you tuning in. I appreciate you listening to the program.
We're talking about this bombshell yesterday that Axios and CNN
and releasing portions of the audio from the deposition that
Robert Hurr, the Special Counsel did investigating classified documents case
for which similarly, Donald Trump had been indicted. But the

(09:47):
decision was made not to a date Joe Biden because well,
he was, you know, an old fart that you know,
a jury would look upon sympathetically and would never convict.
And we'll get to that audio. I may not have
heard the auto audio. Uh, even if you have, I'm
still not gonna play it right now. Because I want

(10:08):
you to remember first all the bull crap we went through,
all the utter bullk and you know, and I not
even just us, Yes, you and I, as citizens of
this nation, went through a bunch of bull crab in
which we were lied to, in which we are told that, no,
everything's fine, everything's hunky dory, don't worry about it. But

(10:30):
Robert her himself, the special counsel, himself was just obliterated
in the press, just obliterated in congressional hearings, because how
dare you say these things about Joe Biden. Now, I've
never met Robert Hurt. He's I think, I actually think

(10:51):
he may have been working in the Bush administration when
I was there, but I just don't think we ever
crossed paths. So I don't know him. I just he
may have been working as a US attorney somewhere, but
I don't No, never met him. But I can say
this that it's not unusual for people that are in
the public eye that are handling controversial issues, that are

(11:16):
trying to do the right thing, will stick to their
guns and do what they need to do, regardless of
what the press says. Been there, done that myself, and
so do some of these US attorneys. Even though I
may vociferously disagree with what some of them are doing,
I always, in the back of my mind think or
want to believe. Not always, but most of the time,

(11:38):
I want to believe that they really are trying to
do what they believe is the right thing. That's harder
and harder to do. In the twenty years since I
was the under Secretary of Homeland Security, it has become
more and more difficult for me to believe that which
is a sad state, sad commentary on our society. But

(12:00):
I think that's where we are. Robert Hurt testified befilled
the Congress. This was March twelve of last year, so
a little over a year ago.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Chairman Jordan, Ranking Member Nadler, Chairman Comer, ranking Member Raskin,
Members of the Committee, good morning. I'm privileged to have
served our country for the majority of my career a
decade and a half.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Most of those years with the.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Department of Justice, I have served as a line prosecutor,
the supervisor, the principal Associate Deputy Attorney General, a United
States Attorney, and a special council.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
I've served in these roles with gratitude.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
As the son of immigrants to this country, the first
member of my family to be born here. My parents
grew up in Korea and were young children during.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
The Korean War.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
My father remembers being hungry and grateful for the food
that American gis shared with him and his siblings. My
mother fled what is now North Korea in her own
mother's arms, heading south to safety. My parents eventually met,
married and came to the US seeking a better life
for themselves and for their children. Their lives and mine

(13:17):
would have been very different were it not for this country.
No matter the role, no matter the administration, I have
applied the same standards and the same impartiality. My respect
for the Justice Department and my commitment to this country
or why I agreed to serve as special counsel when
asked by the Attorney General, I resolved to do the

(13:39):
work as I did all my work for the Department, fairly,
orally and professionally, with close attention to the policies and
practices that governed Department prosecutors. My team and I conducted
a thorough independent investigation. We identified evidence that the President
willfully retained classified material after the end of his vice

(14:01):
presidency when he was a private.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Citizen, which is a violation of the law, the same
thing that Donald Trump was accused of. Donald Trump, however,
was president. You see, this is a distinction that I
want you to remember. Biden had classified documents from his

(14:24):
Senate days for which there was no privilege. There was
no executive authority by which he could claim that he
had any right to those classified documents whatsoever. He also
served as vice president, so it wasn't as if any
documents he had which were classified, he could have gone

(14:44):
to the National Archives and Records Administration and asked to
have them declassified, or have the president, in his case
Obama declassify them or asked Trump to declassify them since
Trump took over after Obama and didn't have them for
his records for writing his memoir, whatever he's going to

(15:05):
do with it. So it was a completely different circumstance.
Even though I've heard many commentators over the past twenty
four hours talk about, well, you know, this is this
is you know, Trump was different. Trump was different. Yeah,
Trump was different because he was a former president at

(15:25):
the time that these acts occurred. Joe Biden was not
a former president because we're going back to prior to
the twenty sixteen election, prior to is inauguration in twenty seventy,
I mean twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
This evidence included an audio recorded conversation during which during
which mister Biden told his ghostwriter that he had quote
just found all the classified stuff downstairs end quote. When
mister Biden said this, he was a private citizen speaking
to his ghost writer in his private rental home in Virginia.
We also identified other recorded conversations during which mister Biden

(16:07):
read classified information aloud to his ghostwriter. We did not, however,
identify evidence that rose to the level of proof beyond
a reasonable doubt. Because the evidence fell short of that standard,
I declined to recommend criminal charges against mister Biden. The
Department's regulations required me to write a confidential report explaining

(16:29):
my decision to the Attorney General. I understood that my
explanation about this case had to include rigorous, detailed, and
thorough analysis. In other words, I needed to show my work,
just as I would expect any prosecutor to show his
or her work explaining the decision to prosecute were not.
The need to show my work was especially strong here.

(16:52):
The Attorney General had appointed me to investigate the actions
of the attorney General's boss, the sitting president of the
United States. I knew that for my decision to be credible,
I could not simply announce that I recommended no criminal
charges and leave it at back. I needed to explain
why my report reflects my best effort to explain why

(17:13):
I decline to recommend charging President Biden. I analyze the
evidence as prosecutors routinely do, by assessing its strengths and weaknesses,
including by anticipating the ways in which the president's defense
lawyers might poke holes in the government's case if there
were a trial.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
If there were a trial, and that's exactly what any
prosecutor would do. Hey, what's the other side, What are
the defense lawyers going to do with this?

Speaker 7 (17:40):
Do we?

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Youve seen it in TV shows and dramas where district
attorneys have to think about will how will the defense
lawyers attack this? Okay, well, then we need to go
a step further think about that, So weaken with Michael Brown.
Hang tight, I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Tonight.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Michael Brown joins me here.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
The former FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown Brownie. No, Brownie,
you're doing a heck of a job the Weekend with
Michael Brown.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Hey, welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad
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There's a great text message that I want to address
before we get back to Robert hur Goober number zero
one ninety five writes, why is yesterday's release of hers

(18:35):
recordings a valid description of Biden's decline? But the myriad
video and audio recordings from twenty nineteen to last July
just present his stutter. Oh, I don't think that yesterday's
release is any more or less important than what you

(18:56):
and I witnessed with our own eyes and heard with
our own ears over the course of that term of
his office. We saw it, we heard it. The difference
is we now know for a fact that the White
House staff, his Biden's family, and members of the media

(19:22):
we're lying about it. That's the bombshell, That's the importance.
You and I, if we ask anybody who was trying
to be objective, whether we thought that, you know, whether
you thought that Biden was suffering from a mental decline,
from a cognitive decline during his four years in office.

(19:44):
I think a rational person would say yes. But if
you ask the media that, if you ask Jake Tapper,
and I'm want to pick on Jake Tapper quite a
bit because Jake Tapper is now trying to do what
he's trying to now cash in on what he was
hiding all that time, and I think it's despicable. I

(20:07):
told my wife last night, I would love to read
Tapper's book. Now, sure as hell, I'm not going to
pay for it. I'm not going to give him a nickel.
I haven't been to a public library in decades, but
I might just have to go get a library card
and see if I can find it, or I'll beg

(20:27):
somebody else to go waste their money. But I refuse
to give Jake Tapper and nickel for this. So that's
why it's different, and that's why it's the bombshell that
it is. So Back in twenty twenty four February last year,
HERR was doing this investigation about whether Biden misandled documents

(20:49):
from this time as vice president, and during the interviews,
Herr was asking Biden very simple questions about where he
kept the papers, and what followed was anything but a
straightforward answer. What followed was, as Robert Hrr points out
when he testified before Congress, was a genuine display of

(21:13):
a lack of mental acuity.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
And seek to persuaders that the government could not prove
his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. There has been a
lot of attention paid to language and the report about
the president's memory.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
So let me say a few words about that.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
My task was to determine whether the president retained or
disclosed national defense information wilfully.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Now why is that important? There is in the law
a Latin phrase, men's rea. You have to have the
state of mind, the knowledge, the understanding that you're committing
a crime. If you don't have, either by reason of
insanity or lack of mental capacity, to know that what

(21:56):
you're doing is wrong, it's really hard to charge someone
with a crime that requires a wilfulness. And keeping classified
documents is a crime if you will. It can also
be a crime if you just mishandle it. You mishandle
it and you just happen to leave it laying on

(22:17):
your tray on an airplane. That can be a crime too,
But also purposely keeping the documents. Knowingly keeping the documents
is also a crime, and that's why her is addressing this.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
That means knowingly and with the intent to do something
the law forbids. I could not make that determination without
assessing the president's state of mind.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
For that reason, I had to consider the president's.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Memory an overall mental state, and how a dury likely
would precede his memory and mental state in a criminal trial.
These are the types of issues that prosecutors analyze every day,
and because these issues were important to my ultimate decision,
I had to include a discussion of them in my
report to the Attorney General. The evidence and the president

(23:06):
himself put his memory squarely at issue. We interviewed the
President and asked him about his recorded statement quote, I
just found all the classified stuff downstairs end quote. He
told us that he didn't remember saying that to his ghostwriter.
He also said he didn't remember finding an any classified
material in his home after his vice presidency, and he

(23:29):
didn't remember anything about how classified documents about Afghanistan made
their way into his garage. My assessment in the report
about the relevance of the President's memory was necessary and
accurate and fair.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Most importantly, what I wrote is what I believe the.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Evidence shows and what I expect jurors would perceive and believe.
I did not sanitize my explanation, nor did I disparage
the president unfairly. I explained to the Attorney General my
decision and the reasons for it. That's what I was
required to do.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
And that's what he did. And when this report came
out in March of light When this testimony came out
in March of last year, everyone in the cabal went crazy,
how dare you do that? The President himself came out
and held a press conference in which he he was offended.

(24:26):
He would you how he would get mad, and the
voice would raise and he'd start shouting at everything, and
he was shouting about, how dare you question me about
my son's death. Well, actually we now find out, as
was rumored before, but now we know factually that Biden
is the one that brought up his son Bow's death,

(24:48):
not the special counsel, not any of the lawyers in
the room. We also know that there was now an
aid in the room, which I find interesting. Why why
would you have an aid there and not your personal lawyer?
I found that fairly interesting. So let's think about what

(25:10):
we've heard. But I want you to think about it
in terms of Jake Tapper.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
I sent him into a disaster. Do you worry that
you damaged him at all?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I don't doubt that you got hugs and handshakes behind
closed doors today, and maybe even publicly some of them
because they like you personally. But I've heard a lot
of really nasty stuff about you from your Democratic college.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
I mean, just like, what is he thinking? Exercise?

Speaker 5 (25:36):
This is Jake Tapper talking to a Congressman, Dean Phillips,
because he was engaged in a primary challenge against Biden
and he was just ripped a new one by his
fellow Democrats. How dare you challenge this president? And Tapper's
actually caring water for the Democrats in this interview.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Behind closed doors today and maybe even publicly some of
them because they like you personally. But I've heard a
lot of really nasty stuff about you from your Democratic college.
I mean, just like, what is he thinking? Exercise in narcissism?
I mean false claims to The Wall Street Journal about
President Biden's mental fitness and acuity. He's eighty one and

(26:18):
his memory. You know, it doesn't seem great. It's not horrible,
but I don't understand the outage. Well, behind closed doors,
Biden shows signing, here we go, slipping, here.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
We go, just we're just going to run into Jake
Tapper now and over the course of the past year,
here's him basically saying, Oh, you can't believe your ears
and you can't believe your eyes. Really, Jake quotes The.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Wall Street Journal is owned by News Corp, which is
run by the Murdocks. Beyond the headline, there is some
critical nuance here. The article is mostly based on observations
of Republicans, with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy the only.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
One going on the record.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
They do note in the article that most of the
criticism comes from Republicans. Have you heard any concerns from
anyone who has met with President Biden about him seeming
a little slower?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Now?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
The Russians are trying to do to make us in
the public not trust the our election integrity. Joe Biden
has dimension all this stuff where.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
He neighbors that it's those states that you were absolutely working.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
This is what.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
Twenty seventeen eighteen that here. Remember in this time frame,
my son it is either been deployed.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Or is dying.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Remember, in this time frame, my son is either deployed
or dying. He doesn't remember which.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Idiot.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
As much as Joe Biden talked about his son Bo
and how close they were and how devastating his death was,
when he's asked a simple question, he reverts back. He's
not asked about his son. He's asked about a time
frame in which these documents and he disclosed that he

(28:23):
had the documents to his ghostwriter, and he brings up,
will you have to remember this is a time when
and I don't remember whether my son had been deployed
or was dying. He brought it up. Robert hur didn't
bring it up. You just heard that it was brought
up by the President.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
Parcels has things that you were actually.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Working well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
This is what.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
Twenty seventeen eighteen, that period. Remember, in this time frame,
my son is either been deployed or is dying.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
And and so.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
If it was, and by the way, there were still
a lot of people at the.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
Time when I got out of the Center that were
encouraging me to ron in this period, except the President.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
I'm not I'm not a mean sad man.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
He's just.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Just utterly rambling on who was running the country, who
was making the decisions, and besides Jake tw for another,
members of the media, or the White House Press Secretary
or the White House Chief of Staff or the National

(30:08):
Security Advisor. How many people the who want, where, when
and why? The five ws of who was engaged in
the cover and how dangerous was that for the country.
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(30:51):
do this just let you know, kind of don't know
where we're going. I want you to listen to the
Axios Report and then on the other side of the
news let's break it down. I don't spend the whole
program on this, but I do want you to and
because there's some great text messages that I want to
address too. But let's just go to the Axios report

(31:12):
as it was released, starting.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Where did you.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Keep the deadly as those things that you were actually
working So.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
The question basically is with regard to the Biden Center,
your cancer, you know, your moon your cancer moonshot, uh,
the different things, Afghanistan, where where did you keep those
documents that you were actively working on?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I I don't know, this is what twenty seventeen eighteen.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Then there.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Remember in this timeframe, my son it is either be
deployed or is dying.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And and so.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
If it was, and by the way, there were still
a lot of people at the time when I got
out of the center.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Now remember the questions. The question is simply about where
did you keep the documents? You said you were working
on a memoir that you're working with a ghostwriter. You
told the ghostwriter that you had these classified documents that
you found in the basement. So Robert Hurr asked the president,
So all these stories, these things that you wanted to
write about, where did you keep those documents. And so

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far he's not wondered anywhere near well, he's wondered. He's
wondered all over the freaking place, but not anywhere near
answering the question.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
Or encouraging me to run in this period. Except the president,
I mean said he just thought that she had a
better shot of.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Winning president and Isaiah. And so I hadn't. I hadn't
at this point, even I'm a pen I hadn't walked away.

Speaker 8 (33:30):
With the idea that I might run for office again
if I were branded him and be running for questionion and.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
And so.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
What was happening though on bo Die got amazed? There is.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
What month, Oh my god, what month did bo die?
And the AID answers for him.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Twenty fifteen? Or eat out after the months or what
he goes? Yeah, that's right, that's and what's happened in
the meantime is that.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Has and.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Schrump gets elected in November of twenty seventeen. By sixteen sixteen,
twenty sixteen, all right, so.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
When twenty seventeen year, that's when we left office in
January ten seven, okay, now, but that's when Schrump gets
sworn in.

Speaker 9 (34:42):
And even brother quite okay, And in twenty seventeen both
had passed. And man, it's this personal.

Speaker 8 (35:05):
The genesis of the book, and the title promised me
Dad was a uh, I know they're all close with
your sons and daughters, but.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh, it's.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Like my right arm.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
And that was my last.

Speaker 8 (35:28):
These guys were a year and a day apart, and
they could finish each other sentences and boh, I used
to go home on the train and in the period.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
And I was still in the sentence anyway, case you remember,
there is pressure, not pressure bo how much I do?

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And this sounds maybe it sounds so everybody knew how
close you were. There's not anybody. No want to wonder
whether or not.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Anyway, and so.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Break No, let me just keep going.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
You get in doune uh, mister President, I wonder if
this is a good time to take a break. Four
minutes twenty four seconds after asking where do you keep
the documents, he wonders, he wanders all over the place
for four minutes and twenty four seconds. It's where the
Special Council finally says, mister President, you want to take
a break. No, I want to keep going. We'll keep

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going after this.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
You will