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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I was listening to yesterday's show on the podcast, and
I was tickled to hear how you were insulted about
the cameras. The first thing I do after activating the
screen is put my hand on top of my head
and flip off the camera. It's sad that I'm flipping off,
Ai though. What I don't get is I buy a
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candy bar and I don't bag it.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
They have to put a tag on it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What the receipt ain't good enough?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I don't get it. What you buy a candy bar,
they have to put a tag on it?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Apparently, according to him.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well, were like at the grocery store, like Sam's a
Costco or something.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I would assume the grocery store since he's, you know,
flipping off the camera above him.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
They've split a tag on the candy bar.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
If you don't, if you don't bag, if you don't
bag something, so then yeah, so they've got to come
over and put a little sticker on it saying yep,
you bought this. He's right, yeah, it does my receipt
not count?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Now what's interesting is I have actually flipped off cameras before,
where I've because one thing I which is interesting because
I've never thought about doing in a grocery store. But
oftentimes when I walk into an office building or I
or for that matter, almost any building or even restaurants.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh here all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh yeah, I mean I have I probably should be
careful about what I say here. I have on numerous
occasions checked different locations within this building for cameras, not
because I'm trying to hide things, because I want to
know whether I'm being videotaped or not. And I've also
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know what that room looks like downstairs. Yeah, because I've
actually been in that room.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
And I knew whether some of them were And I
would just do it because Chris would monitor or excuse me,
Corey and Chris Right, both of them I had a
really great relationship with.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So it was just like all right.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, and right didn't make him smile. But I'll do
it in a restaurant, or I will do it in
a department store where just because I'm I'm always curious
about and this just comes from from my undersecretary days
about you know, situation will wear, and this is what's
going on in buildings. I never thought about doing in
a grocery store. But I have done in other places.
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I've also done it, like where you have the cameras,
you know, like not necessarily speed cameras, but intersection cameras
and other places, I'll do a finger or whatever, just
you know, depending on whether they're doing you know, photos
or it's being videoed, because you can tell. Sometimes they've
got the camera that's on a little arched pole. Well,
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that's actually a live camera. That's not like a photo camera,
that's that's a streaming camera. So occasionally I'll give that
one the finger, just for the fun of it. And
since I as long as we're doing true confessions here,
since I don't have a front license plate, since I
don't have.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
What you rule breaker, you you.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Know what's amazing now knock on for Micah and I
and I think that fine for it is like fifteen
bucks or something. I don't know what it is. Yeah,
it's something stupid, Yeah, something stupid. But because I'm not
going to drill holes in that m sport to put
a license on the front.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Ye, my uncle did the same thing when he got
his corvette. He's like, not a chance, not a chance,
not putting a front plate on the front of a Corvette, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
And what what's fast? You know? You know how you
and I've talked about how when you buy a red car,
suddenly all you see your red cars. You would not
believe the number of times that I see whether it's
a BMW or it's another car, you know, it's a
similar kind of sporty front that likewise is doing the
same thing I'm doing. Yep. And then of course I
then look in the rear view mirror to see if
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it's out of state or not, because ninety nine percent, no,
it's a call, it's a color, it's a colorad a car,
just just not doing it the only place I'm very
very careful. And in fact, yesterday I had a meeting
downtown and I made certain that because I didn't park
in a garage, I parked on the street on a
meter But I make sure I park, and I know
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the people that otherwise park could get pissed off. But
I park very very close, so it's unlikely that the
meter maid will notice that they pull up.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Pull up as far as you can.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I pull up as far as I can without without actually,
you know, making it impossible for somebody to get out.
Dragon I have. I have, but it's basically a conversation
Dragon I had about a meeting I was in yesterday.
We have a favorite to ask him. I asked you
to this favor once an hour and then that's it.
And I think Friday's a good day to do it.
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But I heart corporate has this knack. I wouldn't do
it this way, but corporate does this way, and so
it is what it is and I can't change it anything.
But I've always believed that, particularly talk radio, that what
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I agree to endorse or sponsors that come. Now, remember
i'm talking to When I talk about endorsements or sponsorships,
I'm talking about when you hear my voice on a
radio ad. For example, when we were sitting here earlier,
I heard in the background, I heard the spot that
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I do for the garage Garage the Garage Dot Expert,
and I endorse that because that's something that I use.
But it's also something that I think resonates with my
audience because I think that many people are all I mean,
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I think it's people are fed up with things like
the outrageous that that dealerships charge for in their service
departments in some places, particularly if you if you own
a BMW, then you know that some of the some
you know, some BMW places are extraordinarily expensive and not
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very friendly and sometimes kind of hard to get into,
which I always found fascinating because that's a huge revenue
stream for an auto dealership. And so I'm I when
I had the opportunity, because I had gone to the garage.
I had done, as I say in the spots, I
literally had interviewed like four or five places and found
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the garage and started using them. And then I told
the salespeople, Hey, you got to go talk to these
people because I love and I think it would resonate
with the audience. And sure enough it does. And you
guys have used the garage, and I appreciate you doing that,
and I know that that Joe appreciates you using it.
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Paul appreciates you using it. And it's a great little
place over here on Santa Fe in Inglewood and out
in Parker and now and down in Colorado Springs. But anyway,
the whole point is the garage is something that I
think would resonate with the audience. Well, iHeart has this funny,
I think inverted approach to advertising, which is why I'm
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I'm pretty particular, and I get frustrated sometimes with all
of the crap that you hear during the commercial spots.
So I have a question, what is it that? And
each of you will have different answers. There might be
you know, some of you might have the same answer,
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but I'm just curious what the answer is from people
who are willing to answer the question. What is it
that you at your stage in life? You know, whatever
demo you fit in that you listen to this program.
And this is true for I don't care where you
listen to in the in the country. This is for
everybody listening anywhere. What products or services are you interested in?
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And the reason I asked the question is because sometimes
the the approach that salespeople take, and this stems from
some corporate edicts that have come down and then some
personal meetings I've had with some of the account execs,
it's inverted and they're asked, for example, they're asking me
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like what do I want? Well, I don't want anything.
I'm not in an acquisition acquisition stage of my life. Uh,
I've got everything that I need. Uh. Things that Tamer
and I do are things that are not really appropriate
for advertising. And I know that sounds kind of creepy,
but that's not what I mean by that, is uh,
you know, tamer and I like to go to Scottsdale
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to see our granddaughter. We eat out, probably more so
than the average you know, couple or family does, simply
because that's one of our simple pleasures. But we don't
typically go to chain restaurants. We go to mom and
pop restaurants, locally owned restaurants. And and that's not really
you know, conducive to advertising, because advertising is expensive. I mean,
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it truly is expensive. So I'm just curious. I want
to I want to reverse that whole question that I
get all the time about what I like, and I said, instead,
would like to find out what you like. Because when
I do this program, even though Dragon I talk about
and joke about, it's all about us and it really
is just about me and Dragon, what Dragon and I
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are really doing is trying just to be relatable. We're
just trying to be entertaining and informative at the same time.
And I think the same thing ought to be true
with advertising. Advertising ought to be relatable. It ought to
be something that you know, is for a particular audience
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on a particular station, in a particular day part you know,
whether it's morning drive or afternoon drive, it ought to
be appropriate for that audience. And so I'm conducting this experiment.
What is it that you are interested in? What is
it that you do that it interests you? So text
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that to us three three one zero three keyword Mike
or Michael, or you can email it to me Michael
Brown at iHeartMedia dot com. And I want to compile that.
I want to compile it and see and I also
want to kind of throw it back it in Iheart's
face and say, you say you're taking the whole you're
taking the wrong tack here product or service or service right,
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And it's whatever. I mean. I'm not I'm not trying
to steer you any particular direction. I'm leaving a wide open.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So we'll try not to judge.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, and we won't. Well, of course we'll judge, and
and if it's you know, we may or may not
judge on air, but we'll always judge. Come on, Dragon,
don't don't lie to them already, but I'm trying to
get him to be truthful with us. We'll at least
be truthful. With them.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Everybody's got their own kink. It's fine, right, right, And look,
this is serious.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I'm not trying to you know, don't tell me that
you want you know, the second shop down on the
corner store, the.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
The operator of the month club.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, yeah, don't tell me that crap. I'm talking about
serious stuff, you know, around the house work, you know
what what you do for recreation or whatever, that's what
that's well, are you be careful about that one too.
So anyway you get, you get the drift. Bobby Kennedy
Junior is not getting. I don't think the kind of
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attention that he ought to get in terms of what
he's doing at HHS. Uh in A I N I
A I d uh the f d A, all of
the people that have been employeed to doctor McCary, all
of those who've who have taken over all of HHS. Well,
he sat down. I've done lots of interviews on News Nation,
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and I really like, I really do like News Nation
and the the anchors there. Now, I'm not a religious
watcher of NewsNation, simply because I don't DVR it or
I don't save it on Mike by Box, but I
love doing interviews with them because they're fairly open and
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they give me a lot of leeway. And the producers
aren't the kind of producers that say, what do you
want to talk about? It's more like, here's a story
that we are going to use as the lead in
uh tell us whatever you think about it, and and
it's pretty free flowing. Well, he said, Bobby Kennedy sat
down with this interview with News Nation and there was
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a panel. James Harvele was on it, among others. But
what was interesting is how they seemed to have been
left speechless. There's no rebuttal, there's no pushback, and it
was kind of like, you know, something like a freight
train of truth just kind of bam hit them and
they really didn't know what to do. One moment probably
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flipped the entire Measles narrative on its head and actually
sparked applause from a live audience that was there for
that interview. But his response was measured, it was precise,
and it was kind of devastating, and it kind of
exposed probably what the media and when I say here
that Neil I shouldn't say to the media, because this
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is the cabal. The cabal is also, now we're going
to throw in the pharmaceutical companies. And don't get me wrong,
I'm not opposed to the pharmaceutical companies. I'm opposed to
pharmacy benefit managers the PBMs, which jack up the prices
of drugs and keep the prices of drugs high. I
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think modern drugs are are a modern miracle of innovation.
I do think that sometimes there's a ripoff, and I
think the whole thing about, you know what will insurance
companies pay and not pay? I went through a trial period.
I haven't told you about this when I went through
a trial period recently with a new drug, sleep medication,
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because you know, I have a horrible time sleeping, and
it was like taking candy. It was totally worthless. But
and I told the doctor and so we've gone back
to what I was normally using. But the price of
the drug retail for a thirty day supply was four
hundred and eighty seven dollars and I refused to pay that.
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So I went to my insurance company and appealed the
price and they and they agreed to cover it, but
they would only cover it and was still like two
hundred and thirty dollars a month. So then I started
digging around and good RX would with a with a
stupid good RX coupon, not even a gold rxqupon, just this,
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you know, the basic free membership brought it down to
like a one hundred and fifty dollars a month. Now,
think about that retail almost five hundred dollars and a
stupid coupon that you can print off, you can get
it for one hundred and fifty. That's what bugs me
about the insurance companies, and that's what bugs me about
our whole industry system, about how we price and sell
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pharmaceuticals to individuals. It's absurd. And if you're on Medicare
or Medicaid, or you're on some sort of you know,
really lousy you know, employee provided health insurance program, then
you know precisely what I'm talking about. Well, anyway, back
to RFK Junior. He's probably going to be the most
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impactful HHS secretary I think we've ever seen. But if
you read everything in the mainstream media about it, if
you if you read what the cabal is writing about it,
you would think that his first one hundred days were
a complete disaster. And yet here we are. Chronic disease
drains trillions of dollars from Americans every year, and the
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press can't stop obsessing over what didn't we dragon didn't
we have like one measle case confirm measl case up
north somewhere in like Long Minor wherever it was.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Oh my gosh, I think it's now like five or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh my god. Five. And there's very how many millions
of people in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Plurality?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, what is the real population of Colorado's three million?
Five million? I forget what it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Is and a half?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah. Yeah. So well, here's the example of headlines. As
measle cases rise, some parents become vaccine enthusiasts. US measle
cases near nine hundred outbreaks reported in ten states. This
may be making a comeback in the United States, according
to Stand for Medicine Experts that they warn it makes
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you think that this really is a big problem. But
is it? I mean, I don't know, I'm just is
it really a big problem? Well, during this interview, RFT
Junior kind of flipped the media narrative on its head
in real time during this appearance on News Nation. And
what was interesting was it was so good that the
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audience just gave him a huge round of applause versus
remember yes, And we played the savend bite from Kamala Harris,
who was among her own people who actually paid to
hear her speech, and the best you could get was
the smattering of applause. Well, I want you to hear
some of this interview coming up.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Next morning, fair face morning, Dan Dong and Mike. The
front license plates really don't bother me at all. I
think it's kind of a big nothing burger.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
But what really gets my goat is all these vehicles,
including commercial vehicles, that are all of a sudden driving
around with their front windshield's tinted.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Talk about a pain. Oh, by the way, word of
the day, squirrel, front windshield tinted.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I'm concerned as to why he would think that it
would concern us that it bothers him. Is he Are
you somebody important? Are you an officer?
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I kind of assumed that, Oh okay, I just made
that assumption. I'm more flabbergasted by the fact, why would
you tell your front windshield.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You don't want anybody see any picking in your nose?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Well, I always check before I do that. I always
look around before I pick my nose, or sometimes I
have been known to do this, just really digging in
there when I know somebody's looking, just for the fun
of it.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
If you automatically assume that this gentleman is an officer
of the law, so why hasn't he recorded us a
taxpayer or liefshot?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Disclaimer?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Probably because he's not a sheriff. And I want a sheriff.
But you know why I want a sheriff because a
sheriff is one of the few elected constitutional positions that
you know, we That's why. I mean, with all due
respect to patrolman or to you know, detectives or to
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chiefs the police, whatever, you're generally not an elected position.
I wanted an elected official. So so back to Kennedy.
Now he's going to say some things that I disagree with,
and he's gonna say some things that you disagree with.
He's even gonna say some things that I think are
probably actually false. But that's not the point of this.
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The point is that there's there's somebody and this this
is the Bobby Kennedy that I guess. I guess, I
don't know. Maybe I'm a little too excited about it.
But this is the Bobby Kennedy that I had to
deal with when he was all about the environment, and
he was all about shutting down the Indian Point Nuclear
power plant just in Westchester County, just north of Manhattan.
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He was a little waco about it. But when it
came to I mean in that regard, he was like
Hillary Clinton, I've told you before that, you know, when
I had to deal with Hillary about the whole nuclear
power plant, she was adamant that, you know, we do
the study and we get all the data for and
we did all of that, and then she we sit
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in her office and she agrees with everything that we
presented to her, and then told us, but I'm still
going to disagree with you, and I'm still going to
go out and untack you. And I'm like, okay, well,
you know, at least at least you had the courtesy,
which is the only nice thing I'll ever say about
Hillary Clinton, at least you had the courtesy to tell
me that you're gonna go out and stab me in
the back before you actually stabbed me in the back.
And goodness, she just did it rhetorically and she didn't
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actually do it, like she's done it with, you know,
with other people. So there's that. Well, Bobby Kennedy was
the same way. He's just you know, and I would
be curious and I'm sure I can probably couldn't get
through to him, but I'd like to ask him today,
you know, twenty some years later, do you still feel
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the same way about nuclear power when you see how
important energy is to the country, do you still feel
that same way? Do you still feel that some way
in particular about nuclear power? Because my guess is he
may not. But anyway, let's get let's walk through part
of the of the panels. It was more of just
an interview by this panel. It's just here we go,
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no intro needed.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
I don't know you can explain to the audience how concerned.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
We should be about measles.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
But it is an interesting conversation around the vaccine, and
there is criticism that comes your way.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Now you're messaging on it.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
You've been telling people to get vaccinated, but there is
criticism of you, Bobby that, oh, now you're saying get vaccinated.
You weren't saying that during COVID. That's why people aren't
getting vaccinated. And now it's a problem. How do you
deal with that issue and what responsibility do you have
in terms of how people feel about getting vaccinated?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I you know, my guess is that Chris Clomo personally
knows Bobby Kennedy Junior because they're both New Yorkers. But
come on, you're on television doing an interview. It's mister secretary.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
I don't know you can explain to the audience how concerned.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
We should be about measles.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
But it is an interesting conversation around the vaccine, and
there is criticism that comes your way now you're messaging
on it. You've been telling people to get vaccinated, but
there is criticism of you, Bobby that, oh now you're
saying get vaccinated. You weren't saying that during COVID. That's
why people aren't getting vaccinated, And now.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
It's a problem. How do you deal with that issue?
Speaker 8 (23:11):
And what responsibility do you have in terms of how
people feel about getting vaccinated?
Speaker 7 (23:17):
I don't know you can explain to body. You know.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm sorry, I keep playing. So he delivered to that question.
He delivered, but I thought was a fairly sharp, measured response,
and well, brother than me coming just let us speak
for itself.
Speaker 9 (23:33):
We're you know, we're doing better in managing our measles
epidemic in this country than probably any other country in
the world that has outbreaks.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Right now, we have about eight.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Hundred and forty two Chris cases Chris and Canada they
have about the same number. They have one ah of
our population. Europe has ten times that number. Our numbers
have plateaued, so you're still seeing added measles cases, but
the rate of growth.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Has has gone down.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Now, there are populations in our country, like the Mennonites
in Texas who're most afflicted, and they have religious objections
to the vaccination because the MMR vaccine contains a lot
of aborted fetus debris and DNA particles, so they don't
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want to take it. So we ought to be able
to take care of those populations.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
When they get sick.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
And that's one of the things that CDC has not done.
CDC is that the only thing that we have is vaccination.
There's all kinds of treatments when people do get sick,
and those people should be treated with compassion, I'll say,
and we ought to have good treatments for them, and
that's what we're developing that CDC right now. Protocols are
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treating measles, so.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The numbers can compared to Canada or Europe when we
have so much more, population is minimal. And whether you
agree or disagree about start to say fecal material, fetus material,
or DNA material are there are conflicting reports. Some say
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that is absolutely false. Some say yes, there is some
evidence of that. I don't know. I haven't delved into
it so and it truly doesn't make any difference to me.
But it's treatable and we're treating it. But he then
delivered what was a pretty good jab I would say
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at the dominant measles narrative, kind of putting it into perspective,
which the cabal doesn't like. I want to say this.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
We've had four measles deaths in this country in twenty years.
We have one hundred thousand autism cases a year. We
have thirty eight percent of our kids now are diabetic
are pre diabetic. That should be in the headlines. When
I was a kid, the average pediatricians saw one case
of diabetes and a forty or fifty year career. Today,
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one out of every three kids who walks through his
office store is the diabetic or pre diabetic that should
be getting the headlines. When I was a kid and
two million, there were two million measles cases a year,
and none of them got a headlines.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And when I was a kid, there are two million
measle cases, not one of them got a headline. Today,
go back to the beginning. What did these say? I
want to say this.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
We've had four measles deaths in this country in twenty years.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Oh okay, a little perspective, right, we.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Have four hundred deaths.
Speaker 9 (26:50):
We had deaths about one between one and twelve hundred
and one and ten thousand. We have so many kids
now who are afflicted by chronic disease. The media never
covers them if they only want to cover measles.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And what I've been saying.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
To people is let's pay attention to other illness as well,
and the illnesses that are really really damaging our country,
that are.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Existential for our country.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
We now spend almost a trillion dollars a year on
diabetes and metabolic disordered We buy twenty thirty five. We're
going to be spending a million dollars a year on autism.
Autism in nineteen seventy was one in ten thousand Americans today,
it's one in thirty one. In California, it's one in
every twenty kids, one in every twelve point five.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Boys.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
This is what the media ought to be focusing on,
and it's not. And because of that, we don't have
the solutions and we don't have the huers.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Well, that's quite the perspective. We we get so hyperactive,
no pun intended, we get we get so hyperactive, and so,
oh my gosh, there's a Musles outbreak. I'm not trying
to minimize it. But he brings a little perspective that
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I think is really lacking. And notice he didn't delve into,
you know, whether autism is in fact. If you read
other things that he said in other interviews, he's kind
of backed off the whole hope I shouldn't say, and
he hasn't totally, and that's fine, but he's at least
shifted to let's find out what the cause of all
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this autism is. Let's start recognizing the root causes of
diabetes and all the metabolic diseases. But why wouldn't we
be interested in that? Why not? Maybe he's not the
perfect messenger because of his previous stances on vaccines. But
then again, I mean, Tam and I've had these conversations about,
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you know, the number of vaccines that we would you know,
put in our children over a certain urp attritions were
very good, and you know we would span those out
as opposed to just like you know, I just take
a newborn and just jab everything unto him at once.
At least he's giving some perspective. At least he's causing
people to stop and say, you know what, let's let's
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think about these other things too, because maybe there's other
stuff that's going on that we ought to be thinking about.
More of the interview coming up next.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
Well, Brownie, the commercials that by the buck means the
most on the iHeart app are the ones that are
encouraging getting your COVID JAB updated.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Have a good weekend, man, We're we're still pushing that
good grief back to by. I want to finish this
real quickly with Kennedy. Uh. Steven Smith, you know, the
broadcast or the sportscaster. UH asked a question and I
think maybe I perceive it differently than you will, but
(30:04):
it sounds to me kind of like a gotcha question,
to which I thought Kennedy had a pretty good retort. Oops,
here we.
Speaker 11 (30:15):
Go employee status from eighty two thousand to sixty two
thousand employees, if I remember correctly cut about one point
eight billion. But nevertheless, you got a lot of American
citizens wondering, how on earth are you going to ensure
that we're going to become a healthier society? What over
twenty thousand less employees to look over thing and purview
things to some degree? What do you say to that?
Speaker 9 (30:36):
Well, I would say, during the Biden administration, my agency
grew by thirty eight percent, and Americans.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Thirty eight percent, more than a third. What'd that get us?
Speaker 7 (30:52):
That's sicker.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
So it's not throwing money at it or hiring people
that is solving the problem. We have so much redundancy
in our agency. We have one hundred communications departments. We
have forty IT departments, We had forty procurement departments we had.
What we did is we're streamlining the agency and we're
recalibrating its trajectory so that people there are narrowly focused
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on one issue, which is how do we end the
chronic disease epidemic?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
When my uncle is president, you know, I don't want
to gloss over that the chronic disease epidemic, whether that's
you know, psychological issues, you know, autism, neurological issues, whether
it's metabolic issues, whatever it is, we really are chronically
ill nation. And you think about how that drains from
(31:49):
the economy. Chronic illness is like taxation. That's money that
is taken out of the country. And if debate on
your perspective is not productive. Now, obviously it's productive for
the pharmaceutical industry. It's productive for the medical industry because
(32:12):
now they've got a lot of things to treat. And
so you know, well not doctors, but doctor management companies
are pharmacy benefit managers and others. All the middlemen can
all make sorts of money, but it does nothing to
treat the problem, which is his foot. It's a completely
(32:32):
different mindset, and I think that's what fascinates me about
it is let's recognize we've got chronic illnesses and let's
address that. And adding more people, adding more communications department,
adding more IT departments is not going to do it.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
Three percent of America's of chronic disease today it's sixty percent.
It's costing us one point six trillion dollars a year,
about ninety five percent of our healthcare budget is going
to chronic disease. When my uncle was president, we spend
zero on chronic disease. Seventy of our kids cannot qualify
for military service. So this is an existential threat to
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our national security, is an existential threat to our economy,
and we have to narrowly focus on that. And that's
what the new AHHS is doing.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Now, that's that is a heavy lift. To change a culture,
particularly an organization, is huge. That is, and not not
just the culture, but the whole mentality of Okay, well,
the diseases just keep getting worse, so what do we do.
We just keep throwing more money toward treatments of the
diseases as wait wait, wait, it's it's like the immigration problem.
(33:43):
We never stop and say, maybe maybe we ought to
turn the water off, maybe we ought to figure out
what the cause of the chronic illnesses are and fix
that and quit spending trillions of dollars on the treatment
of something that we ought to get rid of in
the first place.
Speaker 12 (34:00):
That was an excellent answer. That that's why that was
an excellent answer.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I mean, Bill O'Reilly, I tell you.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
You talk about a disease you were able to cure.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I'll go further. I'll go further.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Most political appointees are pinheads, all right, in my fifty
years experience in journalism, they don't care about improving things.
They care about their job title, their prestige, their expense account.
But stephen A's question was right on the mark, and
I go, that's a good question. You had an answer
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that everybody could understand.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
And that's what more people should do.
Speaker 12 (34:47):
And you know me, Kennedy, I wouldn't kiss your body
at all. I'm telling you the truth never had Bill
all right.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And that's why, just by all the things I might
disagree with, if he can make those kinds of changes
in HHS, and we started addressing, addressing the the actual
root causes the problems that Hallelujah may be one of
Trump's greatest appointments.