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May 27, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's over four months into the Trump presidency. I greatly
appreciate everything that President Trump, jd Vance, RFK Junior, Elon
and Das have done to try to get corruption out
of our government and save us money. I'm very disappointed

(00:21):
in the lack of actions of Republicans in the House.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And Senate Dragon on the other side of the glass.
John Caldera, I believe is in Thursday Friday, if I
have that right, and that'll fill you in the rest
of the week. Brownie back on Monday. Our deepest apologies
and condolences as well. But three three one zero three
the text number to send those in and of course

(00:45):
the talk back one of what you just heard, I
believe that was our friend Alexa who called in with
her assessment of the Trump administration to this point and
the big Beautiful Bill, the Big Beautiful Bill and where
it stands, and her disappointment over the fact that Doge
cuts had not been codified. That is going to be

(01:06):
a sticky wicket and a trickier kind of hole road
do And I'm looking forward to your thoughts at three
three one zero three, your assessment of where the Trump
administration stands in your eyes, with this bill now pending
in the Senate. I'll get my thoughts in just a

(01:26):
moment on that, But briefly, on Memorial Day, I thought
it was important to hear those words from President Reagan
and important that we distinguished the difference between Memorial Day
and Veterans Day and the fact that either one of
those is simply one day, and that for with all
due respect. And I got to say that Lebarkey, Bobby

(01:48):
from Talladega Knights. You know, I have friends in the
LGBT community, the log Cabin Republicans. They're fantastic. I've talked
to Valdemar R. Joletta about Pride Month and that's coming up,
that's coming up for all of June. Do we really
need all of June? And it's not just June because
that you have things like Transgender Awareness Day And I'm like,

(02:09):
I am very aware. We don't need anymore awareness, very aware,
very aware that you exist. And there's like you've seen
this maybe the scroll on Fox News of all these
different days and Pride Month and this day over here
and the Day of Visibility. Not see you, I'm aware
of you, I see you. You exist. That's great. Do

(02:31):
your thing I'm okay with it, but we don't need
to constantly reinforce browbeat America. And I think this has
a very counter effect to perhaps what's being intended. Or
maybe not. Maybe that's the point, maybe the bullying us
into submission, because that's what we're experiencing here in Colorado

(02:55):
with House Built twenty five, thirteen twelve. The process is
the punishment, as Dan Bongino used to say, and that
is you are going to not only be aware of us,
not only accept us. That's not good enough anymore. We're
going to indoctrinate your children without your knowledge or consent.
And then if you don't consent to it, you don't

(03:17):
agree with it, you don't validate it, you don't submit
and bend the knee to the identity that your ten
year old expresses to you, then that can and will
be used against you in a court of law in
custody proceedings. Now, Jarrett Polus claimed, oh no, no, no,
it's not that big a deal. They took the language

(03:38):
out and it's all well and good, and I sided
into law and it's just fine. It's not just fine.
I've had extensive conversations about this with various leaders who
have fought against the bill, Aaron Lee being one of those,
Lori Gimmelstein being another, Lindsay Datko being yet a third.

(03:58):
These are moms, These are concerned, and there are concerned
parents fathers too. You look at Dustin Gonzales, a father
in the Jeffco Schools who refused at least to go along.
Initially didn't even say that he was fervently against it,

(04:18):
but that he just wasn't ready to concede that his
daughter was now identifying his non binary and yet that
was used against him by his ex wife in custody proceedings,
and his contact with his daughter was decreased at that point.

(04:39):
So this notion that it's not that big of a deal,
it is a big of deal. And it was asked
and answered, as Michael Brown would say, it was adjudicated
in the courts, in the Supreme Court of the United
States at the ultimate level in the Jack Phillips Masterpiece
cake Shop case. All this to say that we don't

(05:00):
spend enough time, in my mind, voicing support and appreciation
for our veterans who served, and especially those like on
Memorial Day that gave the ultimate measure, that paid the
ultimate price that laid down their lives so that we
as Americans could enjoy the freedoms that we celebrate, and

(05:21):
defended those in foreign wars. I think about my grandfather,
who luckily survived World War Two. I always think about
when I watch movies like Saving Private Ryan, or the
remarkable television series Band of Brothers, of those who didn't survive,
who stormed the beaches of Omaha and Utah, and who

(05:43):
died on those beaches and are buried there, and like
President Reagan said, never had a chance to be husbands
and fathers and grandfathers the way that my Grandpa Shuoling was,
and the stories that he would go on to tell
that he survived to tell because he was fortunate enough

(06:04):
to emerge from that war and come back home and
enjoy a great American life and build a family. And
with the baby boom of my father and my uncle
Dave and all of those two descendants, you think about
the lineage and the legacy that's left behind by my
grandfather simply in that form, and how fortunate, how sobering

(06:25):
that is and should be for all of us, and
it certainly is for me. So I just wanted to
take that moment to address that, and again your text
at three to three one zero three. I always like
to go back in time too and get some texts
that had nothing to do with me, but preceded me
in going to Michael and Dragon, maybe from the week

(06:45):
before and especially over this weekend because it's a longer weekend.
I hope you enjoyed the holiday weekend. Again, those who
served our country and gave their lives for this country
did so that so that we could have Memorial Day
holiday pet nicks and outings in the start of summer.
They would want us to enjoy that and simply remember them.

(07:08):
That's the name of the day, Memorial Day. Let's see here.
Alexa now in text form, says finally a break from
MDB Dragon. Who is this Ryan fill in laughing emoji face, Yeah,
Brian Shoestring. Yes, that is my alter ego. I go
buy that sometimes, Mike or Michael Ryan. I have asked

(07:29):
the loud Alphabet folks, if they're so confident in their
life choice, why do they need constant validation from absolute
strangers and children? This goes it's the Alexa trifecta. We're
gonna use that. Maybe going for I like that almost
rhymes the Alexa trifecta. So she had the talk back,
she had the text. But one of the things that
she observed, I believe this is when I was working

(07:49):
with Dan on a show, was why is it that
we have to have Drag Queen Story Hour for kiddos
little ones? But however, don't see them going into senior
centers and having Drag Queen Story Hour for the olds.

(08:10):
For the senior citizens, they need entertainment too. Why is that?
Why wouldn't they do Why would they do one but
not the other? Think about that, ponder that if you would.
As we start on this Tuesday, which feels like a
Monday at three three one zero three, this is the

(08:30):
one I was going back to, You're gonna have to
fill me in dragon on the context.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
All right, I'll try to hope this.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Michael. My name is Denise. I'm from Fort Collins, Colorado.
You guys are all skirting the subject. We need to
talk about what's really going on. It's spiritual warfare. You
think it's warfare between the Democrats and the Republican Sure
looks that way, but it really is spiritual warfare. The
devil was whispering in people's ears and getting them to
believe they don't know what gender they are should be. Now,

(08:59):
this is just happens, I guess to dovetail is what
I was just talking about. I think making a mockery
out of God's creation, making people paranoid about Donald Trump.
That's because maybe he doesn't even realize, but God is
using President Trump and his cabinet and Republicans to do
his work. The whole planet needs an exorcism right now.
I pray every day that God will lift the veil
and reveal to people what's really going on here. We

(09:20):
do not need round two of Sodom and Gomore. That
is some heavy stuff there, Dragon. What was the subject
matter of terms of what was Michael talking about? Because
I don't think MDB talks a lot about spirituality right
on the show.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Nothing much that I can think of from Friday's show.
Oh okay, but maybe something from the weekend. The weekend
The weekend with Michael Brown Brown plus stations nationwide. Yeah,
he's a pretty big deal, which unfortunately I'm not a
part of. Thank you, Michael. Yeah, so I am not
entirely certain.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, all right, Well, if it so happens that Denise
from Fort Collins is listening out there. Thank you for
that text and thoughtful text. I think there's a lot
substance to what she's saying there. What we're realizing, what
we are realizing, what we are witnessing before our very eyes.
This visceral, knee jerk, irrational, overly emotional, rabid hatred of

(10:15):
Donald Trump. I don't know where it really comes from.
My father suffers from it, my brother suffers from it.
My sisters maybe aren't quite as bad as though too.
But I can't talk about Trump in a, you know,
any kind of way with any one of those four.
And my poor mother, who passed, May she rest in peace,
was the only one, and I was the only one.

(10:36):
She told me in twenty twenty the last election she
would vote in. Don't tell the rest of the family,
but I voted for Trump again. And I wish you
all could have met my mother, because even oh, now
you know why Ryan is the way that he is.
Well in some ways, that's absolutely true and a good thing.
My mom was one she suffered no fools, and not

(10:57):
much got passed her, not at all. She was extremely
street smart, and she loved Donald Trump, and who he was,
and how what he stood for and how he expressed himself.
The fact that he was a non intervention as that
was her big thing. That was her big reservation about
voting Republican at all, like for George W. Bush, which
she did do, and she did lean Republican over the years,

(11:17):
and she was a big Rush Limbaugh fan. But I
shared her sentiment in that regard of these foreign wars
of misadventure and sending our young people into harm's way
and for what just sometimes it's required. I don't shy
away from that. There are some just wars. I wouldn't
say there are any good wars. But World War two,

(11:39):
for instance, a just war needed to be fought. Hitler
needed to be defeated. Evil needed to be eradicated in
that instance for the free world. But since World War Two, hmmm, Korea, Vietnam,
no desert storm, Okay, Okay, we liberated Kuwait, got the

(11:59):
hell out of dodge Go along with that. One war
in Afghanistan was justified because the Taliban were harboring Osama
bin Lada refused to co operate. He was known to
reside there, and we ended up finding him in Pakistan
as a matter of fact, but I was supportive of that,
and initially this is where I was kind of turned,

(12:22):
shall we say, is the aftermath of the war in
Iraq and the side tracking of our American military for
that and deviating from the purpose, the sole focus which
should have been in that moment hunting down Osama bin Laden.
And if you've seen they recently released a three part
trilogy documentary on the hunting down of Osama bin Laden.

(12:43):
I found it to be interesting and informative. It definitely
did not paint the Bush administration in a favorable light.
In in some ways that's fair. They did not get
Osama bin Laden, not on his watch. It took until
the Obama years, of course that we saw in order
for see Team six to storm the compound and kill
Osama bin Laden.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
And I do like to always point out there was
only one man in the room who did not want
to go kill Oh Sama been lacked.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
That was Joe Biden, our former president, And they highlight
that and they mentioned that specific aspect in the documentary,
But they kind of paint President Obama to be this
hero that Yeah, I don't know, I give him credit,
give him credit. He made the final call and it
was not an easy one because it was not one
hundred zero. And when you watch what's unfolding in the

(13:33):
documentary in real time, you understand somewhat Joe Biden's hesitation
in that moment. As Vice president, I think one other
official in the room also shared some concerns but did
not voice as much of opposition to the mission as
Biden did in that moment. But I think what President
Obama calculated incorrectly so was that was going to be

(13:56):
perhaps the best chance we were going to have to finally,
after ten years, apprehend or kill Osama bin Laden, and
we did. Now had that gone wrong, there was a
political risk to that political capital. And in the lives
of Sealed Team six, which you will watch, I highly
recommend that you see it. They were on the line

(14:16):
in real time. They were flying over semi hostile air
space after they went through Afghanistan. Now they're in the Pakistan.
They could have been shot down by the Pakistani military,
which was not exactly an ally of ours. Ryan, why
did they, Michael, why did they let Ryan fill in?
For you have Donald Trump energy in the morning, he
has Joe Biden energy. Wow. Uh, that seems a little

(14:40):
harsh out of the gate, but I appreciate those texts. Anyway,
Ryan thought on Veteran Story Hour, I like it, Patty
Veteran Story Hour, Well, yeah, that was kind of the
point of the exercise. There was a lot of veterans
are left without family members to more in their passing

(15:01):
and Honor Bell Foundation are actually wearing that shirt today.
Honor Bill Foundation. They arrange those ceremonies and services to
honor those veterans who have fallen and many of whom,
some of them get to an age where all of
their contemporaries have passed and perhaps many of their family
members as well, and rather than them be buried alone,

(15:22):
they get that one final send off that they've earned.
And I think that's such a great cause. So you
can look into their information as well online again that
text line, if you want to send more insults thirty
three one zero three Joe Biden energy? Does Michael bring
Donald Trump energy in the morning? Is that? No? No,

(15:46):
not exactly. I don't know. I think for Michael to
do this show four hours every day, folks, you're getting
a show, you're getting You're getting a real treat there.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
He does claim though, that the previous program director, our
boss would say, you need to ease into it, Michael,
you just need to you know, if people are just
waking up, you need to ease into it. And okay,
Michael always says, no, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Now, you got to bring in I think that's the
right approach there, and smack him in the face. Highly
caffeinated energy, Michael Brown his diet Cox. He doesn't drink
coffee though, I don't think right, No, it's just the
diet cokes. Okay. Dragon is alongside Ryan Schuling, unfortunately for you,
apparently filling in for today and tomorrow, John Caldera, Thursday

(16:29):
and Friday. Much more to get to when we come
back again, those texts three three one zero three and
use the talkback feature on the iHeart app Michael Dragon,
good morning. Michael. Ain't gonna say I missed you, so
so that's it. That's it. That's okay.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I don't leave him.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I just play them. You always leave the audience wanting more.
I'm going neck to what Dragons said before the break
that our former program director, Lord Spenceworthy as it were,
back in the day, I told MDB to kind of
ease in and people getting their first cup of coffee
in the morning till they're you know, all the way
fired up. And you shouldn't be either. But I'm kind

(17:14):
of with Michael on this one. He's come in throwing
haymakers and see what happens. Sometimes a good slap in
the face will wake you up. I appreciate that, and
til you know, going back to the earlier Texters point
that that said I had low energy at Joe Biden.
At least you didn't say Jeb Bush, although maybe that
would have been apropos.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
You do it, you do a decent Trump. So that
was a Biden energy to do you have a Biden impression?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's kind of you wait, yeah, you try to talk
and there exploit things, but you can't really do it. Yeah,
so little joke. So it's not a joke. Well, we're
going to get into some Biden stuff too. But I
did have a bit of a rough night. I knew
this was coming. So Kelsey and I, my fiance and

(18:03):
I we got a puppy over the weekend. This is
a Moyan poodle, a medium sized. It's storable, has green eyes,
got kind of a yeah, it's got kind of a
beige and white face. It's very cute. Her name's Diana
because Kelsey's a big comic book nerd and our our

(18:24):
first dog, who's a little wheat and terrier and standard
uh moyan poodle mix. I guess kind of mid sized.
He's a mid size like a car is Bruce Wayne
so Batman obviously, but Diana is in reference to Wonder Woman.
A lot of people thought, you know, oh, you're naming
her after Princess Diana. No, not not in this case.
But she was a little whiny last night. Not too

(18:47):
bad though, I mean as puppies are as puppies go.
She's only eight weeks old, tell you what, eight weeks old,
So as soon as we can get her because they
you know, you got to wean off the mother. And
then how this little AstroTurf peepad outside on our patio
for her to go out and use too, you know,

(19:07):
one and two already doing that what I'm talking like
second day smart, that's the thing. Yeah, a little maybe
a little too smart for her own goods sometimes because
she's thinking, I think I beg even mom or Dad
will get me. And Kelsey was up and there she
knew I had to wake up earlier today, so I'm

(19:28):
not making excuses. But if there's a reason, there's an
explanation as to why maybe I have Joe Biden energy,
that could be it.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
So those of you who know, do you have any dogs?
We usued to we shuld have a little shit too
named Abby. H he's a little cutie.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Cula. Well, you used tod me a photo of Abby.
Do you have any sure? I would love then? Anyway,
getting to your text as well as the talk bess
three three one zero three, might as well do this.
Uh oh, got a lot of those coming in. Unfortunately,
all wars are banker's wars. Shoe love you, well, I
love you. I don't even know you, but since you

(20:05):
said that, I will reciprocate. That's what's going to happen.
Mike or Michael or Miguel or Ryan or Shoestring whatever,
Joe Biden energy or not. It's great to hear your
voice this morning. Well, I appreciate that. I am proud
to deliver it to you. Lux has got a lot
of a couple longer takes here. Will wait on those

(20:26):
for just a moment because I got to set this
up I know a lot of you. Obviously this is
a four hour program. Those of you who are diehards,
who are marathon runners, maybe did the Boulder Boulder on Monday.
Kelsey did that and I watched the dogs. But the
thing was smart. Smart. It's a ten k so that's
six point two miles. However, it's people descend upon Boulder

(20:47):
in a way that I don't think we're going to
see outside of coming up with the Sundance Film Festival
coming there in a couple of years. I believe it's
twenty twenty seven that the first one will be something
like that. Relocating from is It Utah two yuts anyway,
so she had a park pretty far away, like would
you say, great movie, my cousin, Vinny, thank you for

(21:09):
picking up on the reference their dragon. She had a
park like a mile and a half away, and walk
from that parking spot to the race, do the race,
come back to the car three miles about ten miles
she ended up doing. Now, Kelsey's a good athlete, she's
a former ballerina and is in very good physical condition. However,

(21:30):
distance not her thing. She got tiny feet, I think
from being a dancer. It's strange because She has an
identical twin who also did dance, but not to the
degree that Kelsey did. So her twin, Amy has like
a size five or six foot in Kelsey's foot is
like condensed. It got like scrunched because we little feet
all that to pointing yes without question. So she got

(21:51):
some issues along those lines. And we were, you know,
walking Bruce at the Cherry Creek Reservoir a couple months
ago and got to about three miles and she had
had it on my how you're gonna do boulder boulder anyway?
I didn't. That didn't go over well, but she did it.
She finished it. Good for her. I wanted to hear
this clip because we're setting things up coming up. It'll
be nine o'clock hour hour time. She's in the Central

(22:12):
time zone. Shannon Adcock, you may have seen her if
you are a frequenter of x Twitter. She is the
founder of a Wake Illinois. And the reason why this
is an important conversation to have is because a lot
of the things that are going on here are going
on in Illinois as well, you know, Blue State doing

(22:33):
crazy things, pushing the transagenda. But the one the bridge
too far for maybe a lot of people that might
wake them up. And I think we're getting there here
in Colorado, but it's happening in Illinois, and I haven't
heard about it happening with Chassa. If I'm wrong, let
me know via text. If you've got kids or grandkids
in the Colorado public school system competing in athletics, in particular,

(22:57):
three three one zero threeving biological boys competing in girls
sports simply by identifying as the opposite gender as a girl,
which invariably what I'm watching pan out here. And forgive me,
but people in our audience, I think you'll walk with

(23:17):
me down this path. There's a category, and this is
not original, but it's so on the mark. There's a
category of folks that are called awfuls, and it stands
for affluent white female liberal. And these are people. You
know them, and you might even live amongst them. These
are women who are so afraid of being canceled, who

(23:40):
are so afraid of being ostracized or labeled stigmatized as
racist or homophobic or transphobic or xenophobic, that they want
to fit in and they want to be in the
cool girls club, and it really matters to them. They're
social standing, and so they're going to absorb and endorse
any monstrosity, the craziness that's out there from the left

(24:02):
because they're afraid, and out of fear, they submit and
they feel like if they do, so, this is the
thing when you go when you negotiate with terrorists. That's
what this is. By the way, it's never going to
be good enough. I could apologize sit here all day
for being white. I could apologize sit here all day
for being male. I could apologize sit here all day

(24:25):
for being heterosexual. But I'm not going to do that
because once you do that, then you've given into the
woke mob and they're never going to stop, and they're
going to keep demanding from you submissions, concessions, all of
these things that emasculate you in the truest sense that
you have to genuineflec before them on every single issue.
And once you start down that road, it's never going

(24:48):
to end. They're never going to be satisfied. You're never
so you might as well not even try. And that's
where I am. I know a lot of you are too,
But one of these moms we call it in the
fighting against this portion of society, and I'm a proud
member of that Transhausen by proxy. These are moms that,
for whatever reason, have been fed this social contagion that

(25:12):
having a trans kid is a badge of honor, it's
a trophy, it's a status symbol. And I know that
might sound crazy, but it's true. I'll dig up some soundment.
Cynthia Nixon. Now she portrayed one of the girls scales
women on Sex and the City, the Redhead. Okay, now
she is very proud of having a trans child. Her

(25:34):
trans child's best friend is trans, her best friend's child
is trans. They have, I mean, the math behind that. Possibilities,
probabilities are infintesimal and absolutely improbable. But one of the
subjects that we're going to tackle is I have participated

(25:54):
in sports. I have coach sports at the youth level.
Many of you have participated. If you have, it doesn't
matter whether you are male or female. But you know
there are fundamental physiological differences that this has to be explained.
Is madness and insanity. But we got to go there
because there are people that are saying, what's the big

(26:15):
deal about a biological boy who identifies as a girl.
Magic Presto Changjoh they're a girl. They say they're a girl,
they believe they're a girl. They're a girl, and they
can just run rough shot over female competition in sport.
This happened in Illinois in a track and field meet,
and it's happened in California, and it's happened in Connecticut.

(26:36):
I don't know of examples in Colorado yet, but if
you're aware of one, let me know. Like I said,
via tex thirty three to one to oh three. And
this has caused a big stir in Naperville, Illinois, because
the school board there allowed a transathlete to win multiple
track events in medals, a seventh grader amongst females, just
obliterating them in the category. We'll take this break, but

(26:57):
when we come back, sound from one of the moms
there willingly going along with this and wanting to be
accepted by this cultish mentality, but it's never going to
be good enough. And we'll talk about this more coming
up at it'll be nine thirty three am our time,
where you can catch it on the podcast. Her name

(27:18):
is Shannon Adcock. She describes herself as an uncanceiable mom,
an advocate who sued Governor J. B. Pritzker Jables we
call him in a lawsuit where parents one due process
for Illinois kids and that fight that is coming here,
Just wait for it, because it's bound to happen. With

(27:38):
thirteen twelve being passed into law, a time out back
wrapping up our number one, the situation without Michael brown
Ryan Shuling filling in Wan and Ryan and Dragon. Yeah, hey, Ryan,
I'm just curious now that you have a significant other,
you still have that nasty futon that Doug Brownie used
to tease you about. Inquiring minds want to.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Know, yeh upgraded to a high or was it a
Murphy bed?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Oh wow, you look at you the official terminology. Yeah,
the futon wasn't gonna fly. Yeah, Kelsey's a classy Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
When you laid it flat, that just you know, no, no,
that was.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Not gonna Yeah. Now I think Brownie got confused cornfused,
as my dad would say about a certain detail where
when I go to visit my buddy Hutch in Tampa
Bay Saint Pete, Now this guy leaves a spartan like existence.
It's an interesting little apartment pays, you know, for rent

(28:33):
down there. It's very comparable to rent here. It's outrageous,
is out of control, it's crazy. But he does have
a futon, and I do sleep on it when I'm there.
But now I'm gonna make other arrangements because I'm going
to be bringing Kelsey with me and that again is
not gonna fly. Plus the way that Hutch's apartments laid out,
it's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in my life,
unless you truly live like he does, which is alone

(28:54):
spartan like existence. Like I said, no furniture except for
the futon, and he's got a chair that he sits in.
But in order let's say I'm crashing on the food town, Okay,
middle of the night, I gotta go to the bathroom.
I have to walk through his bedroom to get into
the only bathroom on the premises to use it. Is
that weird?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I mean not if you're a smart in life. Well, yeah,
it's fine, right any guests over ever, Yeah No.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Let's get back to the texts thirty three one oh three,
Ryan over Michael. Don't let Ryan lie on your show
about having a rough night. He's blaming a puppy instead
of admitting that he found your bottle of tequila in
the desk drawer. Oh, he'd be so mad if it existed,
which maybe i'd see some address files only like Tuesday. Yeah, okay,

(29:43):
well then that qualifies. But would that be within the
range of outcomes, realm of possibility that I would do that? Yes,
yes it would. But there is a puppy. She exists.
And speaking of which dragon, you sent me this photo
of your little one. You said you lost this one. Yeah,
she passed a few years ago. This is the most

(30:04):
adorable little dog I've ever seen. The face is like, okay, well,
whatever you want, right. She was the boss and she
knew it. That's so great. And again for those of
you here in the first hour and you get into work,
it's early, you're punching in. You know, I appreciate you
tip of the cap, especially on Tuesday, coming back after
the holiday. That's not great. Ain't nobody want to be here?

(30:25):
Ain't nobody want to be here. But in order to
kind of properly preview in case you have to listen
to the podcast later, Shannon Adcock important conversation coming up
in the nine o'clock hour, But for right now, this
is going to be kind of the topic. Du jure Naperville, Illinois,
mother of students. Now this would be on the other
side of the conversation, the argument, the discussion, the presentation.

(30:47):
Where in a school district Naperville, a seventh grade trans
athlete won medals in several girls track and field events.
This mother, I'm a student in that class. Now, it's
not the trans student, mind you voicing support for that
participation and you little girls that are losing out there.
This is just part of life, and you got to
deal with it. Just got to get used to it.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
And I'm a parent of two district two or three students,
one at Lincoln and one at Central. Today I speak
to you in support of transgendered students and transgendered student athletes.
I am proud to live in a state that protects
a student's right to participate in sports that align with
their gender identity. I thank you for supporting and following

(31:31):
this law. Other parties will tell you that they believe
this is a disservice to our cisgendered students and especially
our female athletes. Sis as the parent of two students
in the district and as a woman, I reject the
notion that allowing transgendered athletes to participate in sports is
detrimental to our students. Losing a race is disappointing. It

(31:56):
is okay for our students to experience disappointment. Cannot protect
our children from all the disappointments in life, but we
can encourage them to develop resilience. This growth mindset will
benefit them in numerous situations.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
This sanctimonious fill in the blank, you know what I'm
gonna say. Apply what she just said, that tail end
of the whole thing to the actual transgender athlete. Can
the transgender athlete learn to live with disappointment that winning
is in everything, that sometimes you can't always get what
you want, that you don't get to compete as the
opposite gender. Because here's the simple fact, Jack or whatever

(32:33):
your name is a woman, why are biological females not
competing in winning and dominating male sporting events. If you
cannot answer that question, if you cannot show me examples,
then you are full of crap. And you know it.
Anybody who's ever participated in sports at any level or
coach that knows there's a fundamental difference. My brief story

(32:56):
is this, I was a very mediocre average cross country
runner in high I ran times around nineteen minutes for
a five k. Pretty good. Now, I'd love to trade
that in, but I wasn't like competitive as a male.
To win those races, like a soft valley invitational outstin Michigan,
he had to run about sixteen minutes. As a boy,
I ran stride for stride with the best girl in

(33:16):
the event. She won it, and I beat her down
the stretch at the finish of that race.
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