Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Brian, Jimmy Connors and Martina and Awick Lowe did play
against each other in an exhibition when they were both
kind of washed up in you know, old timers, and
he bet on that match because it was it's allowed
in tennis. He bet that he would lose no more
than two games, and he was correct. He beat her.
(00:22):
They lost I think two games exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Anyway, there you go, interesting detail, and not surprised that
in retirement they might do it for an exhibition or
for charity or in this case, I guess to line
Jimmy Connor's pockets with a bet. Did he bet Martina
bet or just in general bet on himself. It's kind
of Pete Rose sounding, but yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
Jimmy Connors was an ultra competitive guy. My mom couldn't
(00:47):
stand him, couldn't stand McEnroe either. But remember Connor's he
had that run toward the end of his career. I
think it was like thirty nine forty, which in tennis
is ancient.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's ancient now.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I mean Federer was in such great shape he was
able to compete until that latter age. But I'm talking
this is like nineteen ninety three somewhere around there, and
Connors made it to like the semi finals of the
US Open. It was quite a story at the time,
and he was always like fiercely competitive. Of course, at
one time he had a romance with Chris Evert Mel But.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
With Martina this doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think they're roughly the same age, So you figured
degradation and skills kind of comparable. And if Connor's is
really trying, like you said to your point, Talkbacker, he
was still able to defeat her rather handily. Now, had
that happened in their respective primes, let's say late seventies,
early eighties, I anticipated to be a very similar result.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And that is no knock on Martina and Nabertlova.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
She was an outstanding champion, dominant in her own time,
but she would not have gotten that opportunity if women's
tennis didn't exist as.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
A separate category.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We're not gonna just throw guys and gals together to
play the same sport. Why isn't there just the NBA?
Then oh there's a WNBA. Well, why men play in
the NBA, women in the WNBA. What if men who
think they're women play in the WNBA. You don't see
the conflict there.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I do.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Common sense is the driver of so much of this,
and it seems simple.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It seems like layup after layup.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
The Right is winning and the Democrats are struggling with
their identity. And you can text in it three three
one zero three to opplying yourselves and it's making the
talk circuits on the left. Let's say Podsave America or MSNBC.
Here's John Heilman, and I think he gets to the
crux of the matter here. But will people on the
left really absorb this and listen? Do they even want to?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I would say that the focus on language is something
we've seen in a lot of political parties when they
get into trouble. This is something you know, you can
think back to the periods where the Republican Party has
been out of favor. People think, oh, well, how do
we how do we talk differently? How do we we
have to reach this group? We have to reach that group?
(03:07):
And the way to reach this group or that group
is the tailor are messaging to try to reach those groups.
And it turns out, at least in our lifetimes, that
the way that you start to reach groups that you
have lost favor with or that you used to support
the party, but how don't and you're not you're losing.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Traction with them.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Is partly a language thing, but it really is more
of a substance thing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's it's a thing of like, what does the party
believe in?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Seems obvious, but it's not to the left because it
is a matter of substance. For instance, remember when not
that long ago, Governor Tim Walls talked about why he
was selected to be part of the ticket with Kamala
Harris because.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
He was just this average white guy that knew how
to fix cars. And he said, he.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Said this, that he could coach switch and talk to
blue collar middle American males who watch football. Well, I
count myself among that category. That's my background. Tim Walls
didn't speak to me, and Tim Walls didn't speak for me.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I know there are so many out there.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
The Democratic Party have punted straight white men punted now
unless they're complete cock beta males.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Sorry to bring up that kind of language, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
No self respecting red blooded American male who refuses to cooperate, concede,
or apologize for who he is for any reason, resolute
for any reason is going to vote Democrat unless you
hate yourself. That's the only explanation. Tell me I'm wrong,
Tell me how I'm wrong. Oh, I'm sorry, straight white guy.
(04:38):
Unless you apologize, you gotta all three of those things
three strikes in, you're out. You gotta apologize for being straight,
you gotta apologize for being white, and you definitely have
to apologize for being a man.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Uh no, how about No?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
How about I'm gonna vote for the party that tells
me I'm okay for being a straight white guy. That's okay,
that's actually good, that that could be celebrated. The traditional
masculinity is not that it's a good thing that we
need masculinity in this country, that it's not to be
emasculated or neutered in any way or diluted in any way. Now,
(05:12):
surely misogynist behavior that disrespects women. But here's the real
plot twist in that whole thing. True alpha males who
are masculine, who have that sense of confidence and purpose,
protect women, defend women, defend women's rights, sports and spaces.
(05:32):
It's the beta males who are clouding that issue. And
I don't say that lightly, but it's true. So John
Heiloman gets it right. Here's Dan Pfeiffer talking about the numbers,
the numbers behind it, and why the Democrats are, in
his words, in a huge bit of trouble.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
The main story of this is that Democrats are in
a huge bit of trouble. Oh, it's just there's no
way to look at this without recognizing the massive scale
of our problems. And you can kind of tell yourself
that things might be kind of okay by looking at
just the ship from twenty to twenty four. But if
you really want to assess where we are as a party,
you have to look at the ship from twenty sixteen
(06:12):
to twenty twenty four. And it is particularly true with
Latino voters. Okay, in twenty.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Or twenty twelve, twenty twelve, even with Latino.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Voters actually is the one group where Hillary Clinton did better.
Say they did better than Obama two points better.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But so.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
In twenty twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton won seventy percent of
Latino vote, Kamala Harris won fifty four percent.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's a sixteen point trop And.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Then we you would like to think that gender, you
know that this is all about men.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's not all about men.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Latina has moved seventeen points in eight years. Latino men
went fourteen points in eight years.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Okay, that's Dan Pfeiffer.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Now listen back to what you just heard and what
John Hilman said about messaging. What did Dan Pfeiffer say.
He said Latins and Latinos female, Latin American ancestry and male.
What term was absent in what he just discussed, Dan Pfeiffer,
(07:13):
LATINX or latins? How do you think Hispanic Latin American Americans,
how do you think they feel about that term that
erases gender from their very language.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's a romantic language, Spanish. I took it in high school.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
There are masculine words, there are feminine words, there are
masculine names, there are feminine names. But no, we're gonna
water that down with LATINX that no Latin American him
or herself uses or came up with. Of course, it
came from a coastal liberal, elite college campus. We know
what's best to sympathize with and patronize the Latin American
(07:55):
population here in the United.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
States, and that is we're gonna use Latin X.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's like telling Native Americans, Oh no, No, No, Eastern
Michigan Hurons.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's offensive to you.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We the liberal elites in ann Arbor, Michigan, are going
to decide for you that you're not gonna be called
the Hurons anymore. Never mind what the Huron tribe or
actual Native Americans might have to say about it.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
They're going to be the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Now, this ere raisure is happening not with the consent
or will of those it is supposed to offend. In fact,
there is a push right now by Native Americans. I
talked to Valdimar Archalletta about this. He is part Native American,
the former president of the Log Cabin Republicans. Over the
weekend went to the Yankees Rockies game with him, Christian
(08:43):
Toto and a friend of Valdemar's, and he was saying,
how even the name Washington Redskins, not only is it
not offensive to Native Americans who came up with that
term themselves to refer to themselves and the people of
Washington roof for that football team. You're not going to
call a team by a name that you make fun
of or hate. I love the Lions. Lions are fierce
(09:05):
kings of the jungle. Yeah, it's not a joke. It's
not a punch line. I love the Lions. I love
that the team is called the Lions. Nobody says the Cowboys. Well,
that's appropriating frontier culture of the Old wild West. No, no,
it's not. It's celebrating cowboys. You're not gonna name your
team the Braves, the Chiefs, the Indians, the Redskins. If
(09:26):
you think that's a mockery as a mascot or some
kind of cartoonish thing. There was pride in the Redskins
in the culture. And did you know the logo the Redskins,
that side profile the Native American. That art was designed
wait for it, by a Native American.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And I do also believe that the name the Redskins
was One of the rumored reasons for that name is
because they had a coach who was Native American.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That is also correct, so they wanted to honor him.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, and that name, if it came back, that would
be a total culture shift in America, pushing back against
this ridiculousness.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And I hope that happens.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
This is one where I used to be of the
mind like, well, okay, Redskins, maybe that one needs to change.
But you knew, and I should have known. It wasn't
going to stop there. Now they're they're Cleveland Guardians, a
stupid name. Dumb but okay, my goodness, God, take away
the tomahawk chop in Atlanta for the Braves. Got to
(10:31):
take that away in Kansas City for the Chiefs. I
know we don't like the Chiefs, but I love that
they're called the Chiefs. I love that they play in
Arrowhead Stadium. I love that they have an Arrowhead as
part of their logo. And now I love that they
do the tomahawk chop because this is forcing the pendulum swing.
When you push Americans and try to force them into
a way of thinking, we are going to push back
(10:51):
against that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The pendulum is going to swing the other way.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And now we're going to say, well, you know what,
how about we bring redskins back now and not before.
Maybe now they're being a jerk about it. You know what,
all of it, bring all.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Of it back. Cultural appropriation. These people that talk about
cultural appropriation have no problem with the appropriation of.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Gender, have no problem with that. Please explain that to
me how that's okay. But paying tribute to the Native
American culture with the name of a sports team or
a collegiate team.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's offensive. That's appropriation of culture. You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I talk about the examples many times. Two of the
tribes that are absolutely dug in on our side of this,
my alma mater, Central Michigan University, the Chippewa tribe, the
Ojibwa tribe. They love it. They are ingrained in the
culture of Central Michigan University. Ojibwa is offered as a
language on that campus. The Soaring Eagle Casino is a
(11:52):
big sponsor of CMU athletics. And all they asked for,
all they asked for in return is that there is
respect shown to the Native American culture, traditions, and history,
that there is a platform for that to be discussed,
that there are courses offered on CMU's campus, and there are,
and the tribe and the university work hand in hand
to keep that legacy alive, not erase it.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Who is that harming? Who is that helping?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It harms the tribes, It harms Native Americans, It does
not help them.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Then there's the.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Example of Florida State University. They're even more out. The
Seminole tribe. They love it all the Seminoles have a mascot.
A man who dresses up full head dress on a horse,
comes out ready for the football games, takes a spear,
throws it into the ground. They've got a logo if
you look at it as a side profile the Native
American of a Seminole Indian. They love it, They embrace it,
(12:50):
they want it. They think it's a point of pride
for them. Why any liberal things has the audacity the
presumption to be offended on behalf of an individual who
is not only not offended, but is offended that you're offended.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I know none of this makes sense.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It makes even less sense when you hear Scott Jennings
talk about it on CNN. Who are some of the
most fervent supporters of deportations in the United States of
illegal immigrants, of illegal aliens? How about legal immigrants who
are here, many of whom not all, but many are
(13:31):
of Mexican or Latin American descent, and they came here legally.
And everyone that I talked to is like, I did
it the right way. Why should these people get to
cut the line? Scott Jennings tries to figure this out
about why Democrats, including our own here in Colorado, Michael Bennett,
he's another one. We're talking about cutting Medicaid benefits for
illegals who have no right to be here and are
(13:53):
simply collecting the government dime paid for by you and
me American citizens. That includes legal immigrants, by the way.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But no, they are.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Fighting for these illegal aliens to continue to receive government
funded benefits that all of us contribute to, but they
do not.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Scott Jennings frames it this way.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
I mean, I would like them to start tomorrow. I mean,
most Republicans I know don't understand. A lot of working
class people that I know don understand, like why do
I have to get up and go to work every day,
pay my taxes and play by all these rules. And
there's a whole bunch of people in this country who
do none of that, and somehow they.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Got better health care than me, they got better benefits
than me from the government.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
I think the prevailing attitude is is that you're an
able bodied person and you're not at home taking care
of kids, and you're not taking care of people at home,
and you could get.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Up and go to work. That's exactly what you need
to do.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
And if you still need to help find But these
work requirements are going to force people off grandma's couch
and back into the workforce, and will still help you
if you're willing to help yourself.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
But that's the message of the Republican Party.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
I have no doubt that Democrats will spend money complaining
about this, because anything that we take away from illegal aliens, Democrats.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Going we're talking about talking about safety, we're talking.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
About illegal aliens being kicked off of Medicaid, and we're
talking about able bodied people needing to show some kind
of work product here.
Speaker 8 (15:09):
That's what we're talking about in this program.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
It's a massive program, and it costs a lot of money,
and there's I need.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Four added to the debt according to this five.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Hundred billion dollars of possible waste, fraud and abuse in
this program. There is there are ways to cut this
that doesn't impact a single person who actually needs it,
and I would.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
This bill is not it would be more than this
billing and.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Run a campaign and say we took this away from
illegal alien so we could shore it up for you.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
That's not what this bill does. That's not what the bill.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Me me, me, me me, Scott, just to pipe down Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Scott Jennings just steam rolls over everybody else on that
panel every single night on this show with Abby Phillip
on CNN. It's the only reason it gets any ratings
at all. And I got some breaking news for you guy.
You just heard Scott Jennings. I am in communication with
his personal assistant and he is scheduled to appear perhaps
on this very program tomorrow. Scott Jennings Enna, Yeah, working
(16:08):
on that. I'm gonna let you in a little inside baseball,
behind the scenes, behind the curtain. We're hoping to have
Scott Jennings on with us on this program tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
You're welcome. Michael Brown. I would love to have Michael
Brown have a conversation with Scott Jennings. Wouldn't that be
fascinating the two of them. I'd like that.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't know about the listeners out there. I know
you're predisposed three three one zero three. I just think,
first of all, you got a Kentucky accent, you know,
Oklahoma accent. It would just feel good just to hear
those accents at work.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Let's got some tax.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Three three one zero three, Ryan, Why aren't the wayans
chastise We're wearing white face and the movie White Chicks
because it was hilarious, and I endorse that it's funny,
but I understand, I understand there's a historical precedent in
reverse Amos and Andy that it was demeaning the whole
notion of blackface and how it was presented. I guess
(17:03):
that's the key difference I'm articulating here between that and
what the representative of Native American culture is in our
sports franchises. You know, that is with honor and dignity
and reverence and respect and tribute. The Amos and Andy
type stuff, it was cartoonish, it was a caricature. It
was not flattering, it was not productive, it was not positive.
(17:26):
So I get that, But again, in this culture, I
am now kind of oriented to, you know what, let
it all go. I want to be more politically incorrect,
because look where politically correct has gotten us.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Look at the path that it's propelled us down.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And the sort of things we're having to confront and
deal with as an American society where the priorities are
right now, and Scott Jenny's just hit on a couple
of those. It's like, not somebody who's here illegally doesn't
automatically deserve our sympathy, and quite the opposite, in fact,
says me, the son of an immigrant my own mother,
(18:03):
And says Greg Lopez, by the way, candidate for governor
whose parents were immigrants, and he and I speak kind
of from the same hymnal on this. When your ancestors
have come here and done it the right way and
wanted to be Americans and swore allegiance to this country
and did what it took to do it legally, there's
no tolerance or time for somebody that was willing to
cut the line. Brian, this is my impression of the
(18:27):
lady talking to Scott Jennings that might kids it's too easy, right,
it's low hanging fruit, but it needs to be said.
It just it's a mismatch. It's a horrible mismatch. And
we may have the source of that mismatch. Scott Jennings
(18:49):
on this program tomorrow, which leads us to this text
thirty three one oh three. I think this is the
same one earlier that combined my low energy level to
Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I could be wrong, but I think I'm right.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Michael Brian wants you to have a conversation with someone
else on your show. Your most loyal goobers know that
you hate talking to other people. You barely like talking
to Dragon. What a horrible fill in?
Speaker 6 (19:10):
True? Oh true to the part where he doesn't really
like talking to me? Well, horrible filling. I mean, I
know it's debatable. Still, this is where.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I have to say again an unprompted You're welcome to
the listeners out there, because whilst Michael Brown was on
in the afternoons two to four pm, the timeslot that
I currently reside in myself, and you can listen weekdays
two to four pm Ryan Chruling Life. Please tune in,
kayhow or subscribe, download listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I welcome you with open arms.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I came to an arrangement with Brown through much cajoling,
that he would take calls but only on Fridays, and
I think I think he ended up enjoying it to
a certain extent. And I know one of those callers
is with us right now, and that's Kelly Coucerra. She's
sitting right there. Kelly, how did you feel? You are
a big Michael Brown fan. I'm talking about way back.
(20:04):
You're like an og Michael Brown fan. Oh she can't hear.
I gotta wait for her to put her headphones out
just real quick. So I'm talking about you at being
an og Michael Brown fan, and that you would call
into the program when I convinced, through some encouragement Michael
to take calls on Fridays in the afternoon show when
(20:27):
he was on in that slot.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, that was a really bad time.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Oh your voice, what happened to it? You lost it again?
I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Color me shocked that you lost your voice. No, it's
it's good. Oh I thought you were set. Are you sick?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Are you feeling okay, I'm more sick about you. What's
going on over there?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'm fine?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well what's that right there? But just it just happened.
Your voice halted?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Really?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You and Dragon both have to give me craps. Oh no,
she's turning. Well when this happens a version of Kelly's
Batman Kelly.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
What either that or it really does remind me of
root Off from the animation feature of the nineteen sixties
rout Off the Red Nose Reindeer.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
She likes me.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
No, that's not exactly what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Okay, a short version of the question I was asking you,
But did you enjoy the call in segments when Brown
would take them from listeners on Fridays in the afternoon slot.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, because they beat the crap out of you.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, that's what I'm talking about, and that would be
your opportunity listeners.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
But I know that kind of fell flat in the
mornings here.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But the thing is, Michael's on for four hours and
he does taxpayer relief shots, but that's only later on
in the week generally speaking. Did you have that conversation
with him dragging about potentially taking calls from listeners and
maybe only on one day of the week now, because.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
He's just very adamant. He's I don't care what you think.
He's very curmudgeon. Yeah, very curmudgeon. Oh, I'm saying, Texter,
just slow down a little bit. It's Tuesday after a holiday.
Even we had for a while the CEO spotlights. I
remember those, and he really he does enjoy talking to people,
and when he goes out and has lunch or dinner
all the time, he enjoys talking to people and hearing
(22:06):
their stories and whatnot. But just here were to me,
that's a pretty good Brownie right there, I can tell
you what you paid me to speak.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'll talk anywhere Dallas, laos the matter. He does, well,
he did get paid to speak in Chicago. It wasn't
that long ago. And I think, as I recall, I
was filling in because of that correct, Yeah, yeah, and
he was speaking absolutely not, but he was speaking. Remember
the same day that Joe Biden was Yeah, and we
(22:39):
were asking who gave the more coherent speech, Michael Brown
or Joe Biden. Ryan, Michael Ryan and Kelly Kelly found
your tequila bottle in your desk, Stoyer, She does not
like tequila.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
She's a mimosa kind of girl. If that he just Yes,
she's about two and a half deep, is she really?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Is? She loaded for bear always?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Oh man, Wow, Now she's getting into her own like
Mike sock and her headphones and trying to dial it
up there. Yeah, this was a point I think, uh
Dragon brought up during the break. But then this texture
does as well. Ryan, don't forget landa lake's butter ditched.
The Indian kept the land more colonization. And it wasn't
just that there was like a wave of these remember
that it was canceled culture.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
At his days.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben. Yeah, but don't forget the browny
Guy's still there. Mister Clean's still there. And I asked,
you're still there? But you, as a bald American? Are
you offended by the mister clean logo?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Very much?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
So?
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I will never look that good in a white tight
shirt like that.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Again, is anybody gonna put someone on their product, Let's
say Uncle Ben's rice or Aunt Jemima's syrup, which is
not really syrup. I only get the real stuff. But
if you like that sort of thing he toy over there,
I'm kind of a snob when it comes to my
maple syrup. Those of us from the North. No, we
the North.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Right, Yeah, you Canadian maple surph.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
We're not gonna pay the tariffs that we're gonna make
Americans syrup from Vermont, Okay and sometimes Michigan.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yes, but Aunt Jemima Landa Lakes.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Are they going to put a logo on their product
that is less likely to sell? That is a this
that is disparaging the person that represents.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Again, I asked the question, who is harmed and who
is hurt by removing Uncle Ben's likeness because there was
an Uncle Ben by the way, he existed.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
He was real. He was a person. So was Aunt Jemima.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Now that was a version of a person, but that
woman existed, yes, And I remember the family of the
descendants of Aunt Jemima were really upset, like, what the hell.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Man, what did we do? It's a point of pride.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It was part of the American pop culture. And you
take that away, who does that help? And who does
that harm? The Lando Lakes, Nato American lady, take that
off of the packaging. He's boring now.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Just land Old Lakes.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
It was fun when you had you cut the packaging
just right and you gave her boobs.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You never did that?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
No, all right, fine, it must have been just my youth.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You know. I think I just saw something along those
lines and it might have been that.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Where if you haven't seen the Paul Rubins documentary Hebe
Human Yet.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
I was wanting to watch it this weekend, but a
time got away from us.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's really good. HBO Cinemax. Now it's just Max. That's
HBO Max. I don't know. They keep changing the name,
but it's that whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They had Phil Hartman on his Captain Carl I think
his character was on the show Pee Wee's Playhouse, which
was right in my wheelhouse as a youth ute growing
up in the mid to late eighties, and it had
that logo I think, and you got to draw two
things on it. Maybe she has earrings and you know
(25:52):
it's it's playful. There's an innuendo. But anyways, recommend that
if you haven't seen it, and tells his story from
his person before his death. I think because of his
impending death is why he wanted to do it. Here's
another one, Ryan and Dragon. How about Mount Blue Sky
versus Mount Evans. Dragging your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
One, so that would be going more towards the racist
is not the right word.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
But you're going back to the Native American names, so yay,
I yeah, I guess, I mean not like you know,
Mount Evans was Evans was really great gay to begin with,
but it's still true.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But it's this concept of erasure that I have a
problem with. Then we get to another text along those
lines in a moment. This one says the term Redskins
is not derogatory. In fact, the Navajo Nation, the name
of their school district is the Redskins school district. Well,
that's an interesting fact to know. Where was the one
I was, well, this is it. Ryan history should be
part of future, not erased. Yes, it should be. You
(26:50):
view things through a historical lens of how things were
during that time. And no, it's not going to be
appropriate by twenty twenty five standards. This is what the
whole sixteen ninety project was attempting to undermine with the
founding of our country, the principles of America in seventeen
seventy six, and wants to erase seventeen seventy six. It
was a bunch of white colonizers, white supremacists, Thomas Jefferson,
(27:11):
slave owners, George Washington, and remember Donald Trump had that confrontation.
It's not talked about a lot, but I've played the
full clips, I think on this show when I've been
filling in the whole good people on both sides hoax.
Where he was talking about the statue of Robert E.
Lee and there were people concerned citizens of the South
who revered Robert E. Lee as a historical figure, as
(27:34):
a symbol of the South, and that that was important
to them and it wasn't for racist purposes. Now, there
was there were bad people on that side, but there
were bad people on the other side. This is the
point that President Trump was making that there was an
honest to goodness, good faith argument for keeping a statue
of Robert E.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Lee up.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Also the point that he made further that with Jim Acosta,
that scrub was, Look, do you like Thomas Jefferson. Yes,
he's my favorite. President, said Jim Acosta. Well they're going
to be canceling him next. And guess what happened that happened?
Not only that Thomas Jefferson being escorted out of I
think it was a building in New York City, George
Washington being shut down, But not only that, how about
(28:17):
Abraham Lincoln? Right, we all agree Abraham Lincoln, great American president,
perhaps the best freed the slaves, Emancipation Proclamation, save the Union.
Anything negative about Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Sure, there are.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Certain things, suspension of habeas corpus. I'm sure that Michael
Brown has talked about that issue a lot on this show.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But it was a different time. It was a Civil War.
There's a war going on.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But they took down the name of a school named
after Abraham Lincoln in northern California, because somehow he was
a white savior complex figure. You said, we were going
with this crap. Donald Trump called it, and he was
right because first they come for Robert E.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Next they were coming for Jefferson to Washington and sure
is shooting they did.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And then they went for Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
What doesn't make sense, But these are the hills the
left is bound to die on when they continue to
propel in that woll politically correct direction, because then nothing
is acceptable. You can watch episodes of Portlandia making fun
of this like ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Even you always have to blame California.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, well they're, yeah, the ground zero for a lot
of this.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But I gotta tell you what, in a lot of ways,
in many ways recently Colorado has become worse than California
with some of these laws, these bills that have been
passed into law.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's a very good point.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
That's a very good point.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well, take this break because Kelly's voice needs it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Time out more of your texts thirty three one to
oh three when we come back, wrapping up the third
of four hours of this odyssey without Michael Brown on
this station, Hey.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
Ryan and Dragon, just to Lettle known fact. If you
guys didn't know, coke was invented by a Confederate soldier,
So let's start banning in not drinking coke?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Are those sounds?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I was here and there somebody got a text message,
Oh he did it? Must have okay, Coca cola you's
talking about? Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of
fun facts here in there. I mean you hear about
George Washington Carver and the inventions of many things throughout
the nineteenth late nineteenth century, early twentieth century. In fact,
(30:24):
goes to this text as well, thirty three to one
oh three Ryan, wasn't Aunt Jemima the first black woman millionaire?
Isn't that why the black community is pissed that it's
no longer Aunt Jemima?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
That rings true.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'd have to look that up for sure, but certainly
there's a legacy involved that her family was proud of,
proud of in the representation of her, and they.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Just who wiped it off the map? And the question again,
today's question, who does that harm? Who does that help?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I would argue it doesn't help anybody, and it certainly
harms the legacy the family, the descendants of Aunt Jemima herself.
Let's go to some more texts here, Ryan, when Brownie
first started in the on the AM side, when Angie
the producer was still on the board, I was over
on KOA, I think, and here for a time. He
did take calls for a short time, and I was
(31:11):
privileged to be one of the callers. Longtime Brownie listener.
I remember when he ended his evening show with Kate
singing God Bless America.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I remember that as well.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Well.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Think about Angie though, is you don't tell Angie no,
So if she says Michael, we're going to take calls,
you better take some calls.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And I remember it well, Patty says Ryan. OMG, Kelly's
voice just now sent a chill down my spine. Batman, Kelly, No, Amazon, Alexa.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Is fine, totally fine.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I am fine.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Amazon.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Alexas set to turn off my nightstand light. It's been
acting up late. Late last night, Alexa told me in
a raspy whisper of a voice that she wasn't connected
to Wi Fi. It creeped me out. So I guess
you resemble that voice that Patty heard Kelly's silent at
the moment. First of all, Oh, I'm fine, Okay, fine, okay,
(32:05):
I have sure not.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Just governor was storm and my voice sounds like this,
I hate you both.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well we knew that that's nothing new. Yeah, so you
brought this up during the break, Dragon, make sure we
touch on it before we go to our fourth and
final hour. The time is flying by.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
But did you see over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's tough to describe because it's it's a visual thing,
but Emmanuel McCrone, Leader France, was boarding a flight, of course,
his private jet, and from the left side of the
screen on the plane, but in view of the camera
comes this hand that just kind of shoves his face
and apparently that was his wife doing that.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
And again I turned to you Dragon.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
As you do, I mean, as any wife does to
a husband, just straight up shoves him before they get
out of the plant.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
No, what did you make of that? Though?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I don't know their relationship, so I don't know how
it is, but being physical like that, I don't think
that's healthy.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Well, here's my take on in either direction.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
If a woman's willing to do that on the plane
to the leader of France, yeah, in full view of cameras, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
What is she doing behind the scenes?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Because you have that much audacity, gaull liberty that you're
taking in the public sphere that you know, when I
see a couple in this getting a little heated in public,
I'm wondering, Jesus, if they're doing this in public, you
know what must have been like behind the scenes. Here's
the other part of it, you know, to each his
own or her own. But Brigitte Mary Claude troniel Or
(33:47):
McCrone is seventy two years old. Emmanuel McCrone is forty seven.
That is quite an age gap.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Can get it, girl?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I mean, cougar doesn't even begin to describe it.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Right, that's twenty five years And maybe she kind of
operates more as a matronly figure as a mom. I mean,
how could she not under those circumstances. You go back
far enough in time.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Creepfully enough.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
He was also hurt like he she taught him.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He was her student in short, short forma. So there
are you insinuating, Kelly that there might have been some
grooming involved.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
God, let's hope not very disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Here's the thing too, I could imagine doctor Jill Biden
doing that to Joe. In fact, I think she did
kind of, you know, wrangle him and wrestle him around.
Could you imagine Malania doing that to the Donald, to
the Orange Man? And further to that point, could you
imagine the media reaction if Melania did that? Milania not
satisfied in marriage, too multuous, falling apart.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah, Malenia walks by and doesn't smile. They write a
whole story about how she's stuff at Trump for something
or other.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Oh, they're just speculating, they're grasping at straws, they're hoping
for that, And yeah, that's a very good point. But Kelly,
can you imagine if Milania had done that to DJT
on Air Force one?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Okay, hand of the face?
Speaker 6 (35:14):
First of all, that would have been a punch.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Why would Malania punch President Trump? Well?
Speaker 9 (35:22):
What was.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
The face? Launch?
Speaker 6 (35:26):
One thousand chips?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Ships? Sure, Sorry, they're struggling over medicas, fine, fine, hopped
up on drugs and we're gonna let it. Let it
rest right there. So coming up in our final hour,
I've been talking about this for a good portion of
the morning. But Shannon Adcock, founder of Awake Illinois, she's
been fighting transgender wolk policies in that state successfully.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I might add against Governor J. D.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Pritzker and the Democrats, hopefully providing a blueprint for what
could happen here in Colorado after the passage of thirteen twelve.
He joined US next hour here on the situation without
Michael Brown.
Brian, Jimmy Connors and Martina and Awick Lowe did play
against each other in an exhibition when they were both
kind of washed up in you know, old timers, and
he bet on that match because it was it's allowed
in tennis. He bet that he would lose no more
than two games, and he was correct. He beat her.
(00:22):
They lost I think two games exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Anyway, there you go, interesting detail, and not surprised that
in retirement they might do it for an exhibition or
for charity or in this case, I guess to line
Jimmy Connor's pockets with a bet. Did he bet Martina
bet or just in general bet on himself. It's kind
of Pete Rose sounding, but yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
Jimmy Connors was an ultra competitive guy. My mom couldn't
(00:47):
stand him, couldn't stand McEnroe either. But remember Connor's he
had that run toward the end of his career. I
think it was like thirty nine forty, which in tennis
is ancient.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's ancient now.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I mean Federer was in such great shape he was
able to compete until that latter age. But I'm talking
this is like nineteen ninety three somewhere around there, and
Connors made it to like the semi finals of the
US Open. It was quite a story at the time,
and he was always like fiercely competitive. Of course, at
one time he had a romance with Chris Evert Mel But.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
With Martina this doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think they're roughly the same age, So you figured
degradation and skills kind of comparable. And if Connor's is
really trying, like you said to your point, Talkbacker, he
was still able to defeat her rather handily. Now, had
that happened in their respective primes, let's say late seventies,
early eighties, I anticipated to be a very similar result.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And that is no knock on Martina and Nabertlova.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
She was an outstanding champion, dominant in her own time,
but she would not have gotten that opportunity if women's
tennis didn't exist as.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
A separate category.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We're not gonna just throw guys and gals together to
play the same sport. Why isn't there just the NBA?
Then oh there's a WNBA. Well, why men play in
the NBA, women in the WNBA. What if men who
think they're women play in the WNBA. You don't see
the conflict there.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I do.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Common sense is the driver of so much of this,
and it seems simple.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It seems like layup after layup.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
The Right is winning and the Democrats are struggling with
their identity. And you can text in it three three
one zero three to opplying yourselves and it's making the
talk circuits on the left. Let's say Podsave America or MSNBC.
Here's John Heilman, and I think he gets to the
crux of the matter here. But will people on the
left really absorb this and listen? Do they even want to?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I would say that the focus on language is something
we've seen in a lot of political parties when they
get into trouble. This is something you know, you can
think back to the periods where the Republican Party has
been out of favor. People think, oh, well, how do
we how do we talk differently? How do we we
have to reach this group? We have to reach that group?
(03:07):
And the way to reach this group or that group
is the tailor are messaging to try to reach those groups.
And it turns out, at least in our lifetimes, that
the way that you start to reach groups that you
have lost favor with or that you used to support
the party, but how don't and you're not you're losing.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Traction with them.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Is partly a language thing, but it really is more
of a substance thing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's it's a thing of like, what does the party
believe in?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Seems obvious, but it's not to the left because it
is a matter of substance. For instance, remember when not
that long ago, Governor Tim Walls talked about why he
was selected to be part of the ticket with Kamala
Harris because.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
He was just this average white guy that knew how
to fix cars. And he said, he.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Said this, that he could coach switch and talk to
blue collar middle American males who watch football. Well, I
count myself among that category. That's my background. Tim Walls
didn't speak to me, and Tim Walls didn't speak for me.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I know there are so many out there.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
The Democratic Party have punted straight white men punted now
unless they're complete cock beta males.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Sorry to bring up that kind of language, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
No self respecting red blooded American male who refuses to cooperate, concede,
or apologize for who he is for any reason, resolute
for any reason is going to vote Democrat unless you
hate yourself. That's the only explanation. Tell me I'm wrong,
Tell me how I'm wrong. Oh, I'm sorry, straight white guy.
(04:38):
Unless you apologize, you gotta all three of those things
three strikes in, you're out. You gotta apologize for being straight,
you gotta apologize for being white, and you definitely have
to apologize for being a man.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Uh no, how about No?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
How about I'm gonna vote for the party that tells
me I'm okay for being a straight white guy. That's okay,
that's actually good, that that could be celebrated. The traditional
masculinity is not that it's a good thing that we
need masculinity in this country, that it's not to be
emasculated or neutered in any way or diluted in any way. Now,
(05:12):
surely misogynist behavior that disrespects women. But here's the real
plot twist in that whole thing. True alpha males who
are masculine, who have that sense of confidence and purpose,
protect women, defend women, defend women's rights, sports and spaces.
(05:32):
It's the beta males who are clouding that issue. And
I don't say that lightly, but it's true. So John
Heiloman gets it right. Here's Dan Pfeiffer talking about the numbers,
the numbers behind it, and why the Democrats are, in
his words, in a huge bit of trouble.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
The main story of this is that Democrats are in
a huge bit of trouble. Oh, it's just there's no
way to look at this without recognizing the massive scale
of our problems. And you can kind of tell yourself
that things might be kind of okay by looking at
just the ship from twenty to twenty four. But if
you really want to assess where we are as a party,
you have to look at the ship from twenty sixteen
(06:12):
to twenty twenty four. And it is particularly true with
Latino voters. Okay, in twenty.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Or twenty twelve, twenty twelve, even with Latino.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Voters actually is the one group where Hillary Clinton did better.
Say they did better than Obama two points better.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But so.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
In twenty twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton won seventy percent of
Latino vote, Kamala Harris won fifty four percent.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's a sixteen point trop And.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Then we you would like to think that gender, you
know that this is all about men.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's not all about men.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Latina has moved seventeen points in eight years. Latino men
went fourteen points in eight years.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Okay, that's Dan Pfeiffer.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Now listen back to what you just heard and what
John Hilman said about messaging. What did Dan Pfeiffer say.
He said Latins and Latinos female, Latin American ancestry and male.
What term was absent in what he just discussed, Dan Pfeiffer,
(07:13):
LATINX or latins? How do you think Hispanic Latin American Americans,
how do you think they feel about that term that
erases gender from their very language.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's a romantic language, Spanish. I took it in high school.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
There are masculine words, there are feminine words, there are
masculine names, there are feminine names. But no, we're gonna
water that down with LATINX that no Latin American him
or herself uses or came up with. Of course, it
came from a coastal liberal, elite college campus. We know
what's best to sympathize with and patronize the Latin American
(07:55):
population here in the United.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
States, and that is we're gonna use Latin X.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's like telling Native Americans, Oh no, No, No, Eastern
Michigan Hurons.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's offensive to you.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We the liberal elites in ann Arbor, Michigan, are going
to decide for you that you're not gonna be called
the Hurons anymore. Never mind what the Huron tribe or
actual Native Americans might have to say about it.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
They're going to be the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Now, this ere raisure is happening not with the consent
or will of those it is supposed to offend. In fact,
there is a push right now by Native Americans. I
talked to Valdimar Archalletta about this. He is part Native American,
the former president of the Log Cabin Republicans. Over the
weekend went to the Yankees Rockies game with him, Christian
(08:43):
Toto and a friend of Valdemar's, and he was saying,
how even the name Washington Redskins, not only is it
not offensive to Native Americans who came up with that
term themselves to refer to themselves and the people of
Washington roof for that football team. You're not going to
call a team by a name that you make fun
of or hate. I love the Lions. Lions are fierce
(09:05):
kings of the jungle. Yeah, it's not a joke. It's
not a punch line. I love the Lions. I love
that the team is called the Lions. Nobody says the Cowboys. Well,
that's appropriating frontier culture of the Old wild West. No, no,
it's not. It's celebrating cowboys. You're not gonna name your
team the Braves, the Chiefs, the Indians, the Redskins. If
(09:26):
you think that's a mockery as a mascot or some
kind of cartoonish thing. There was pride in the Redskins
in the culture. And did you know the logo the Redskins,
that side profile the Native American. That art was designed
wait for it, by a Native American.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And I do also believe that the name the Redskins
was One of the rumored reasons for that name is
because they had a coach who was Native American.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That is also correct, so they wanted to honor him.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, and that name, if it came back, that would
be a total culture shift in America, pushing back against
this ridiculousness.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And I hope that happens.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
This is one where I used to be of the
mind like, well, okay, Redskins, maybe that one needs to change.
But you knew, and I should have known. It wasn't
going to stop there. Now they're they're Cleveland Guardians, a
stupid name. Dumb but okay, my goodness, God, take away
the tomahawk chop in Atlanta for the Braves. Got to
(10:31):
take that away in Kansas City for the Chiefs. I
know we don't like the Chiefs, but I love that
they're called the Chiefs. I love that they play in
Arrowhead Stadium. I love that they have an Arrowhead as
part of their logo. And now I love that they
do the tomahawk chop because this is forcing the pendulum swing.
When you push Americans and try to force them into
a way of thinking, we are going to push back
(10:51):
against that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The pendulum is going to swing the other way.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And now we're going to say, well, you know what,
how about we bring redskins back now and not before.
Maybe now they're being a jerk about it. You know what,
all of it, bring all.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Of it back. Cultural appropriation. These people that talk about
cultural appropriation have no problem with the appropriation of.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Gender, have no problem with that. Please explain that to
me how that's okay. But paying tribute to the Native
American culture with the name of a sports team or
a collegiate team.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's offensive. That's appropriation of culture. You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I talk about the examples many times. Two of the
tribes that are absolutely dug in on our side of this,
my alma mater, Central Michigan University, the Chippewa tribe, the
Ojibwa tribe. They love it. They are ingrained in the
culture of Central Michigan University. Ojibwa is offered as a
language on that campus. The Soaring Eagle Casino is a
(11:52):
big sponsor of CMU athletics. And all they asked for,
all they asked for in return is that there is
respect shown to the Native American culture, traditions, and history,
that there is a platform for that to be discussed,
that there are courses offered on CMU's campus, and there are,
and the tribe and the university work hand in hand
to keep that legacy alive, not erase it.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Who is that harming? Who is that helping?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It harms the tribes, It harms Native Americans, It does
not help them.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Then there's the.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Example of Florida State University. They're even more out. The
Seminole tribe. They love it all the Seminoles have a mascot.
A man who dresses up full head dress on a horse,
comes out ready for the football games, takes a spear,
throws it into the ground. They've got a logo if
you look at it as a side profile the Native
American of a Seminole Indian. They love it, They embrace it,
(12:50):
they want it. They think it's a point of pride
for them. Why any liberal things has the audacity the
presumption to be offended on behalf of an individual who
is not only not offended, but is offended that you're offended.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I know none of this makes sense.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It makes even less sense when you hear Scott Jennings
talk about it on CNN. Who are some of the
most fervent supporters of deportations in the United States of
illegal immigrants, of illegal aliens? How about legal immigrants who
are here, many of whom not all, but many are
(13:31):
of Mexican or Latin American descent, and they came here legally.
And everyone that I talked to is like, I did
it the right way. Why should these people get to
cut the line? Scott Jennings tries to figure this out
about why Democrats, including our own here in Colorado, Michael Bennett,
he's another one. We're talking about cutting Medicaid benefits for
illegals who have no right to be here and are
(13:53):
simply collecting the government dime paid for by you and
me American citizens. That includes legal immigrants, by the way.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But no, they are.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Fighting for these illegal aliens to continue to receive government
funded benefits that all of us contribute to, but they
do not.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Scott Jennings frames it this way.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
I mean, I would like them to start tomorrow. I mean,
most Republicans I know don't understand. A lot of working
class people that I know don understand, like why do
I have to get up and go to work every day,
pay my taxes and play by all these rules. And
there's a whole bunch of people in this country who
do none of that, and somehow they.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Got better health care than me, they got better benefits
than me from the government.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
I think the prevailing attitude is is that you're an
able bodied person and you're not at home taking care
of kids, and you're not taking care of people at home,
and you could get.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Up and go to work. That's exactly what you need
to do.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
And if you still need to help find But these
work requirements are going to force people off grandma's couch
and back into the workforce, and will still help you
if you're willing to help yourself.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
But that's the message of the Republican Party.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
I have no doubt that Democrats will spend money complaining
about this, because anything that we take away from illegal aliens, Democrats.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Going we're talking about talking about safety, we're talking.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
About illegal aliens being kicked off of Medicaid, and we're
talking about able bodied people needing to show some kind
of work product here.
Speaker 8 (15:09):
That's what we're talking about in this program.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
It's a massive program, and it costs a lot of money,
and there's I need.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Four added to the debt according to this five.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Hundred billion dollars of possible waste, fraud and abuse in
this program. There is there are ways to cut this
that doesn't impact a single person who actually needs it,
and I would.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
This bill is not it would be more than this
billing and.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Run a campaign and say we took this away from
illegal alien so we could shore it up for you.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
That's not what this bill does. That's not what the bill.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Me me, me, me me, Scott, just to pipe down Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Scott Jennings just steam rolls over everybody else on that
panel every single night on this show with Abby Phillip
on CNN. It's the only reason it gets any ratings
at all. And I got some breaking news for you guy.
You just heard Scott Jennings. I am in communication with
his personal assistant and he is scheduled to appear perhaps
on this very program tomorrow. Scott Jennings Enna, Yeah, working
(16:08):
on that. I'm gonna let you in a little inside baseball,
behind the scenes, behind the curtain. We're hoping to have
Scott Jennings on with us on this program tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
You're welcome. Michael Brown. I would love to have Michael
Brown have a conversation with Scott Jennings. Wouldn't that be
fascinating the two of them. I'd like that.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't know about the listeners out there. I know
you're predisposed three three one zero three. I just think,
first of all, you got a Kentucky accent, you know,
Oklahoma accent. It would just feel good just to hear
those accents at work.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Let's got some tax.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Three three one zero three, Ryan, Why aren't the wayans
chastise We're wearing white face and the movie White Chicks
because it was hilarious, and I endorse that it's funny,
but I understand, I understand there's a historical precedent in
reverse Amos and Andy that it was demeaning the whole
notion of blackface and how it was presented. I guess
(17:03):
that's the key difference I'm articulating here between that and
what the representative of Native American culture is in our
sports franchises. You know, that is with honor and dignity
and reverence and respect and tribute. The Amos and Andy
type stuff, it was cartoonish, it was a caricature. It
was not flattering, it was not productive, it was not positive.
(17:26):
So I get that, But again, in this culture, I
am now kind of oriented to, you know what, let
it all go. I want to be more politically incorrect,
because look where politically correct has gotten us.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Look at the path that it's propelled us down.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And the sort of things we're having to confront and
deal with as an American society where the priorities are
right now, and Scott Jenny's just hit on a couple
of those. It's like, not somebody who's here illegally doesn't
automatically deserve our sympathy, and quite the opposite, in fact,
says me, the son of an immigrant my own mother,
(18:03):
And says Greg Lopez, by the way, candidate for governor
whose parents were immigrants, and he and I speak kind
of from the same hymnal on this. When your ancestors
have come here and done it the right way and
wanted to be Americans and swore allegiance to this country
and did what it took to do it legally, there's
no tolerance or time for somebody that was willing to
cut the line. Brian, this is my impression of the
(18:27):
lady talking to Scott Jennings that might kids it's too easy, right,
it's low hanging fruit, but it needs to be said.
It just it's a mismatch. It's a horrible mismatch. And
we may have the source of that mismatch. Scott Jennings
(18:49):
on this program tomorrow, which leads us to this text
thirty three one oh three. I think this is the
same one earlier that combined my low energy level to
Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I could be wrong, but I think I'm right.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Michael Brian wants you to have a conversation with someone
else on your show. Your most loyal goobers know that
you hate talking to other people. You barely like talking
to Dragon. What a horrible fill in?
Speaker 6 (19:10):
True? Oh true to the part where he doesn't really
like talking to me? Well, horrible filling. I mean, I
know it's debatable. Still, this is where.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I have to say again an unprompted You're welcome to
the listeners out there, because whilst Michael Brown was on
in the afternoons two to four pm, the timeslot that
I currently reside in myself, and you can listen weekdays
two to four pm Ryan Chruling Life. Please tune in,
kayhow or subscribe, download listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I welcome you with open arms.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I came to an arrangement with Brown through much cajoling,
that he would take calls but only on Fridays, and
I think I think he ended up enjoying it to
a certain extent. And I know one of those callers
is with us right now, and that's Kelly Coucerra. She's
sitting right there. Kelly, how did you feel? You are
a big Michael Brown fan. I'm talking about way back.
(20:04):
You're like an og Michael Brown fan. Oh she can't hear.
I gotta wait for her to put her headphones out
just real quick. So I'm talking about you at being
an og Michael Brown fan, and that you would call
into the program when I convinced, through some encouragement Michael
to take calls on Fridays in the afternoon show when
(20:27):
he was on in that slot.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, that was a really bad time.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Oh your voice, what happened to it? You lost it again?
I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Color me shocked that you lost your voice. No, it's
it's good. Oh I thought you were set. Are you sick?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Are you feeling okay, I'm more sick about you. What's
going on over there?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'm fine?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well what's that right there? But just it just happened.
Your voice halted?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Really?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You and Dragon both have to give me craps. Oh no,
she's turning. Well when this happens a version of Kelly's
Batman Kelly.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
What either that or it really does remind me of
root Off from the animation feature of the nineteen sixties
rout Off the Red Nose Reindeer.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
She likes me.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
No, that's not exactly what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Okay, a short version of the question I was asking you,
But did you enjoy the call in segments when Brown
would take them from listeners on Fridays in the afternoon slot.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, because they beat the crap out of you.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, that's what I'm talking about, and that would be
your opportunity listeners.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
But I know that kind of fell flat in the
mornings here.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But the thing is, Michael's on for four hours and
he does taxpayer relief shots, but that's only later on
in the week generally speaking. Did you have that conversation
with him dragging about potentially taking calls from listeners and
maybe only on one day of the week now, because.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
He's just very adamant. He's I don't care what you think.
He's very curmudgeon. Yeah, very curmudgeon. Oh, I'm saying, Texter,
just slow down a little bit. It's Tuesday after a holiday.
Even we had for a while the CEO spotlights. I
remember those, and he really he does enjoy talking to people,
and when he goes out and has lunch or dinner
all the time, he enjoys talking to people and hearing
(22:06):
their stories and whatnot. But just here were to me,
that's a pretty good Brownie right there, I can tell
you what you paid me to speak.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'll talk anywhere Dallas, laos the matter. He does, well,
he did get paid to speak in Chicago. It wasn't
that long ago. And I think, as I recall, I
was filling in because of that correct, Yeah, yeah, and
he was speaking absolutely not, but he was speaking. Remember
the same day that Joe Biden was Yeah, and we
(22:39):
were asking who gave the more coherent speech, Michael Brown
or Joe Biden. Ryan, Michael Ryan and Kelly Kelly found
your tequila bottle in your desk, Stoyer, She does not
like tequila.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
She's a mimosa kind of girl. If that he just Yes,
she's about two and a half deep, is she really?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Is? She loaded for bear always?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Oh man, Wow, Now she's getting into her own like
Mike sock and her headphones and trying to dial it
up there. Yeah, this was a point I think, uh
Dragon brought up during the break. But then this texture
does as well. Ryan, don't forget landa lake's butter ditched.
The Indian kept the land more colonization. And it wasn't
just that there was like a wave of these remember
that it was canceled culture.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
At his days.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben. Yeah, but don't forget the browny
Guy's still there. Mister Clean's still there. And I asked,
you're still there? But you, as a bald American? Are
you offended by the mister clean logo?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Very much?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
So?
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I will never look that good in a white tight
shirt like that.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Again, is anybody gonna put someone on their product, Let's
say Uncle Ben's rice or Aunt Jemima's syrup, which is
not really syrup. I only get the real stuff. But
if you like that sort of thing he toy over there,
I'm kind of a snob when it comes to my
maple syrup. Those of us from the North. No, we
the North.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Right, Yeah, you Canadian maple surph.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
We're not gonna pay the tariffs that we're gonna make
Americans syrup from Vermont, Okay and sometimes Michigan.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yes, but Aunt Jemima Landa Lakes.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Are they going to put a logo on their product
that is less likely to sell? That is a this
that is disparaging the person that represents.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Again, I asked the question, who is harmed and who
is hurt by removing Uncle Ben's likeness because there was
an Uncle Ben by the way, he existed.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
He was real. He was a person. So was Aunt Jemima.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Now that was a version of a person, but that
woman existed, yes, And I remember the family of the
descendants of Aunt Jemima were really upset, like, what the hell.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Man, what did we do? It's a point of pride.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It was part of the American pop culture. And you
take that away, who does that help? And who does
that harm? The Lando Lakes, Nato American lady, take that
off of the packaging. He's boring now.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Just land Old Lakes.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
It was fun when you had you cut the packaging
just right and you gave her boobs.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You never did that?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
No, all right, fine, it must have been just my youth.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You know. I think I just saw something along those
lines and it might have been that.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Where if you haven't seen the Paul Rubins documentary Hebe
Human Yet.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
I was wanting to watch it this weekend, but a
time got away from us.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's really good. HBO Cinemax. Now it's just Max. That's
HBO Max. I don't know. They keep changing the name,
but it's that whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They had Phil Hartman on his Captain Carl I think
his character was on the show Pee Wee's Playhouse, which
was right in my wheelhouse as a youth ute growing
up in the mid to late eighties, and it had
that logo I think, and you got to draw two
things on it. Maybe she has earrings and you know
(25:52):
it's it's playful. There's an innuendo. But anyways, recommend that
if you haven't seen it, and tells his story from
his person before his death. I think because of his
impending death is why he wanted to do it. Here's
another one, Ryan and Dragon. How about Mount Blue Sky
versus Mount Evans. Dragging your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
One, so that would be going more towards the racist
is not the right word.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
But you're going back to the Native American names, so yay,
I yeah, I guess, I mean not like you know,
Mount Evans was Evans was really great gay to begin with,
but it's still true.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But it's this concept of erasure that I have a
problem with. Then we get to another text along those
lines in a moment. This one says the term Redskins
is not derogatory. In fact, the Navajo Nation, the name
of their school district is the Redskins school district. Well,
that's an interesting fact to know. Where was the one
I was, well, this is it. Ryan history should be
part of future, not erased. Yes, it should be. You
(26:50):
view things through a historical lens of how things were
during that time. And no, it's not going to be
appropriate by twenty twenty five standards. This is what the
whole sixteen ninety project was attempting to undermine with the
founding of our country, the principles of America in seventeen
seventy six, and wants to erase seventeen seventy six. It
was a bunch of white colonizers, white supremacists, Thomas Jefferson,
(27:11):
slave owners, George Washington, and remember Donald Trump had that confrontation.
It's not talked about a lot, but I've played the
full clips, I think on this show when I've been
filling in the whole good people on both sides hoax.
Where he was talking about the statue of Robert E.
Lee and there were people concerned citizens of the South
who revered Robert E. Lee as a historical figure, as
(27:34):
a symbol of the South, and that that was important
to them and it wasn't for racist purposes. Now, there
was there were bad people on that side, but there
were bad people on the other side. This is the
point that President Trump was making that there was an
honest to goodness, good faith argument for keeping a statue
of Robert E.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Lee up.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Also the point that he made further that with Jim Acosta,
that scrub was, Look, do you like Thomas Jefferson. Yes,
he's my favorite. President, said Jim Acosta. Well they're going
to be canceling him next. And guess what happened that happened?
Not only that Thomas Jefferson being escorted out of I
think it was a building in New York City, George
Washington being shut down, But not only that, how about
(28:17):
Abraham Lincoln? Right, we all agree Abraham Lincoln, great American president,
perhaps the best freed the slaves, Emancipation Proclamation, save the Union.
Anything negative about Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Sure, there are.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Certain things, suspension of habeas corpus. I'm sure that Michael
Brown has talked about that issue a lot on this show.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But it was a different time. It was a Civil War.
There's a war going on.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But they took down the name of a school named
after Abraham Lincoln in northern California, because somehow he was
a white savior complex figure. You said, we were going
with this crap. Donald Trump called it, and he was
right because first they come for Robert E.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Next they were coming for Jefferson to Washington and sure
is shooting they did.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And then they went for Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
What doesn't make sense, But these are the hills the
left is bound to die on when they continue to
propel in that woll politically correct direction, because then nothing
is acceptable. You can watch episodes of Portlandia making fun
of this like ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Even you always have to blame California.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, well they're, yeah, the ground zero for a lot
of this.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But I gotta tell you what, in a lot of ways,
in many ways recently Colorado has become worse than California
with some of these laws, these bills that have been
passed into law.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's a very good point.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
That's a very good point.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well, take this break because Kelly's voice needs it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Time out more of your texts thirty three one to
oh three when we come back, wrapping up the third
of four hours of this odyssey without Michael Brown on
this station, Hey.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
Ryan and Dragon, just to Lettle known fact. If you
guys didn't know, coke was invented by a Confederate soldier,
So let's start banning in not drinking coke?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Are those sounds?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I was here and there somebody got a text message,
Oh he did it? Must have okay, Coca cola you's
talking about? Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of
fun facts here in there. I mean you hear about
George Washington Carver and the inventions of many things throughout
the nineteenth late nineteenth century, early twentieth century. In fact,
(30:24):
goes to this text as well, thirty three to one
oh three Ryan, wasn't Aunt Jemima the first black woman millionaire?
Isn't that why the black community is pissed that it's
no longer Aunt Jemima?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
That rings true.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'd have to look that up for sure, but certainly
there's a legacy involved that her family was proud of,
proud of in the representation of her, and they.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Just who wiped it off the map? And the question again,
today's question, who does that harm? Who does that help?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I would argue it doesn't help anybody, and it certainly
harms the legacy the family, the descendants of Aunt Jemima herself.
Let's go to some more texts here, Ryan, when Brownie
first started in the on the AM side, when Angie
the producer was still on the board, I was over
on KOA, I think, and here for a time. He
did take calls for a short time, and I was
(31:11):
privileged to be one of the callers. Longtime Brownie listener.
I remember when he ended his evening show with Kate
singing God Bless America.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I remember that as well.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Well.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Think about Angie though, is you don't tell Angie no,
So if she says Michael, we're going to take calls,
you better take some calls.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And I remember it well, Patty says Ryan. OMG, Kelly's
voice just now sent a chill down my spine. Batman, Kelly, No, Amazon, Alexa.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Is fine, totally fine.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I am fine.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Amazon.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Alexas set to turn off my nightstand light. It's been
acting up late. Late last night, Alexa told me in
a raspy whisper of a voice that she wasn't connected
to Wi Fi. It creeped me out. So I guess
you resemble that voice that Patty heard Kelly's silent at
the moment. First of all, Oh, I'm fine, Okay, fine, okay,
(32:05):
I have sure not.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Just governor was storm and my voice sounds like this,
I hate you both.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well we knew that that's nothing new. Yeah, so you
brought this up during the break, Dragon, make sure we
touch on it before we go to our fourth and
final hour. The time is flying by.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
But did you see over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's tough to describe because it's it's a visual thing,
but Emmanuel McCrone, Leader France, was boarding a flight, of course,
his private jet, and from the left side of the
screen on the plane, but in view of the camera
comes this hand that just kind of shoves his face
and apparently that was his wife doing that.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
And again I turned to you Dragon.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
As you do, I mean, as any wife does to
a husband, just straight up shoves him before they get
out of the plant.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
No, what did you make of that? Though?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I don't know their relationship, so I don't know how
it is, but being physical like that, I don't think
that's healthy.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Well, here's my take on in either direction.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
If a woman's willing to do that on the plane
to the leader of France, yeah, in full view of cameras, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
What is she doing behind the scenes?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Because you have that much audacity, gaull liberty that you're
taking in the public sphere that you know, when I
see a couple in this getting a little heated in public,
I'm wondering, Jesus, if they're doing this in public, you
know what must have been like behind the scenes. Here's
the other part of it, you know, to each his
own or her own. But Brigitte Mary Claude troniel Or
(33:47):
McCrone is seventy two years old. Emmanuel McCrone is forty seven.
That is quite an age gap.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Can get it, girl?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I mean, cougar doesn't even begin to describe it.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Right, that's twenty five years And maybe she kind of
operates more as a matronly figure as a mom. I mean,
how could she not under those circumstances. You go back
far enough in time.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Creepfully enough.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
He was also hurt like he she taught him.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He was her student in short, short forma. So there
are you insinuating, Kelly that there might have been some
grooming involved.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
God, let's hope not very disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Here's the thing too, I could imagine doctor Jill Biden
doing that to Joe. In fact, I think she did
kind of, you know, wrangle him and wrestle him around.
Could you imagine Malania doing that to the Donald, to
the Orange Man? And further to that point, could you
imagine the media reaction if Melania did that? Milania not
satisfied in marriage, too multuous, falling apart.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah, Malenia walks by and doesn't smile. They write a
whole story about how she's stuff at Trump for something
or other.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Oh, they're just speculating, they're grasping at straws, they're hoping
for that, And yeah, that's a very good point. But Kelly,
can you imagine if Milania had done that to DJT
on Air Force one?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Okay, hand of the face?
Speaker 6 (35:14):
First of all, that would have been a punch.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Why would Malania punch President Trump? Well?
Speaker 9 (35:22):
What was.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
The face? Launch?
Speaker 6 (35:26):
One thousand chips?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Ships? Sure, Sorry, they're struggling over medicas, fine, fine, hopped
up on drugs and we're gonna let it. Let it
rest right there. So coming up in our final hour,
I've been talking about this for a good portion of
the morning. But Shannon Adcock, founder of Awake Illinois, she's
been fighting transgender wolk policies in that state successfully.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I might add against Governor J. D.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Pritzker and the Democrats, hopefully providing a blueprint for what
could happen here in Colorado after the passage of thirteen twelve.
He joined US next hour here on the situation without
Michael Brown.
Popular Podcasts
Boysober
Have you ever wondered what life might be like if you stopped worrying about being wanted, and focused on understanding what you actually want? That was the question Hope Woodard asked herself after a string of situationships inspired her to take a break from sex and dating. She went "boysober," a personal concept that sparked a global movement among women looking to prioritize themselves over men. Now, Hope is looking to expand the ways we explore our relationship to relationships. Taking a bold, unfiltered look into modern love, romance, and self-discovery, Boysober will dive into messy stories about dating, sex, love, friendship, and breaking generational patterns—all with humor, vulnerability, and a fresh perspective.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com