5-28-25 - 7am - Ryan Schuiling Filling In - NPR Fight Against Trump

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
According to revelations in a bombshell new book, supposedly Hunter
buying pardon himself. This should get really interesting.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh that's just another feature of the auto pen.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I guess as you can dissociate yourself from that. And
another thing was that Jake Tapper Alex Thompson book that
revealed that Hunter was kind of calling the shots in
many ways.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Is he'd lived there, right, he lived at the White
House with them, correct?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (00:30):
And he's older than you, right.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
If i'm the standard now, he's like early fifty three, right,
fifty five somewhere in there is still lives with dad. Well,
you know, a codependency, that's that's the kind of number
one feature of an addict and that personality. I know
this my father being an addict or recovering alcoholic himself.
And it's not to disparage the disease, and it very

(00:57):
much is a disease in many formsoth psychological and chemically dependent,
especially in Hunter Biden's case, but I think exhibits the
signs of a malignant narcissist.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hunter Biden in many ways, he's very charming.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Obviously, he's able to somehow convince his brother's widow of
entering into a romantic dalliance shall we say as you do?
And got her hooked on drugs. Jake Tapper makes that
point after the fact. This is what drives me nuts
so much about him and he's not just him.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
But where were you?

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Pal?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Welcome to the party, Pal, Bruce Willis meme from die
Hard John McLean.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Wouldn't say it in real time? Why because it would
have hurt Biden.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Joe Biden's chance is a reelection, and if he was
the candidate, they had to do everything they could to
prop him up and make sure Trump didn't win.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
That was their agenda, that was their motive.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
It gets more of these texts are coming in fast
and furious, like the Obama scandal. Thirty three to one
to oh three is where you can send those along.
Ryan Shoeling filling an hour two of the Situation without
Michael Brown with you today and John Caldera Thursday and Friday,
John Caldera Independence Institute, there's your flavor for Johnny C coming.

(02:22):
He's gonna be talking about Gilligan's Island and Star Trek.
I'm gonna make that prediction right now, possibly second Amendment
in that order, though Gilligan's Island, the three hour Tour
star Trek Green Aliens? Are they attractive because Captain Kirk
thought so? And then third two a rites. I think

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that is the order of importance. Quite frankly. The text
we go this one says, look up the meaning of synthesis.
Don't know the context of the request. There photosynthesis, regular synthesis?
What are we synthesizing?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
All right?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Am I playing a synthesizers? It's the eighties? Am I
in pet shot boys? Give me something to go on there, Ryan,
Remember the monetary bonuses paid to doctors and hospitals to
report COVID as cause of death that happened right here
in Colorado. By the way, remember that scandal so much
that happened on Jared Poulos's watch.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
It really egregious and he wasn't even the worst.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
You wear your mask, your selfish bastard, Wear a damn mask.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I think I got that sound bite somewhere here, and
Dan Kaplos's drops.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Where is it? Yeah? Here it is. I'm telling you
to wear a mask. Wear a damn mask. Oh please
spare us. You think he was wearing a mask wherever
he went?

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Now you well, when he did public appearances, but you
know behind closed doors.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
He did do the selfish bastards one too, right, that
was a Facebook post.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Okay, yeah, so it wasn't to you'd have no audio
for that.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Okay, I don't think so, because belief, man, I've scoured
and looked.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Your selfish bastards won't get the shot.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
You know how many healthcare workers in the state that
lost their jobs because they refused to get the job. Lots,
there'll be lots again, so called libertarian governor, provide examples please,
where Jared paul Is has demonstrated that he is a libertarian.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
GT to the FO is what I like to say?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
This One says I had only one flu shot my
entire life in nineteen ninety four. I got diagnosed with
MS a couple months later.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Just terrible.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I'm sorry to hear that caused by vaccination infection, said
MRI report. Haven't had one since, Never will, Never had
a COVID shot, Never will. You're smart not to get
a flu shot, especially if it causes MS. Medical and
drug industry is a scam. That last sentence. I think
there's a way to go through life with a healthy

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degree of skepticism. You are your best health advocate. That
doesn't mean you don't listen to doctors, quite the contrary.
But you gather information and you have to ultimately make
your own health decisions. And I think even a good
doctor will say that to you. It's your choice, but
this is what I would recommend. I'm not sure about
the link to MS with flu shots. I have no idea.

(05:18):
I have no idea, so that's out of my depth.
Let's not forget mainstream media made Joe Rogan look yellowish
when he announced what he took to get over COVID.
That's how unethical these people are. There's a few things
on the color spectrum there. I remember that. I remember
that Joe Rogan, the yellow thing. I remember Donald Trump,
and they turned up the orangeh you make him look

(05:40):
more orange. That just makes me like him more. Yeah,
but that's just funny.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I know. I'm so orange, Okay, I could be the fruit.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Nothing has it ever been as orange as me?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I am the oranges that ever oranged? Okay, I just
used it as a verb. It's great. And then Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Joe Biden, you might recall remember the fire and Brimstone
speech of Philadelphia with the marines behind him in the
red It looked like something out of VFA Vendata.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yes, thank you dragon.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
But they those two images together and I put them somewhere.
I can't remember if I've still got them since our
tea drive died, but I remember rip T drive.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
But what they did with the.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Biden video there was they made it look less red.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
I mean, I made it a little pinkish.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
They tried to make it look less ominous. Folks, You're
absolutely right there is manipulation in media. I mean, I
know I'm stating the obvious with that, but I'm talking
video audio and you get to that top again, just.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Work not in the video field. But I think both
you and I can white balance a camera.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
White balance there.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
You go, hold up the sheet of paper right in
front of the camera, use the lighting you're going to
use for the shot, and white balance.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
There's a button right on the camera.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Hard to believe that some major news networks can't do that.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh can't or won't. Yeah, I choose not to.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
The COVID tests were never very accurate and severely skewed
the mortality reporting, says this Texter. Today, supposedly three hundred
people a week are still dying from COVID.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
But like you said, your father is a scientist, as
is mind rocket scientist literally designed satellites.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Ok.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, he had stated, yes, that the the COVID tests
are no more than fourteen percent accurate.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Your father said that, Yes, I believe that, Yes, as
do I. Are you talking about false positives or false
negatives or both either or either one?

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, just as accuracy, either negative or positive. They're only
fourteen percent accurate? Yeah, yeah, great more texts.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Ironically, the people in my family who did not get
the job have never had COVID. Most of the people
in my family who did get the jab got COVID
at least one time after the job.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
For me, that was my dad as well.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
He got it on a trip to Las Vegas with
my brother, and he had been jabbed as much as
one can be jabbed. Mike or Ryan, Hey, how about both?
From this text or Russeelle Hi Rochelle. What angered me
and continues to anger me about COVID is the negative
effect on education. An entire generation fell behind the school
boards didn't care and continue not to care. Nothing has

(08:05):
been done after the insanity to catch the students up well. Rochelle,
that's why a lot of them are voting Republican now.
And it become very trumpy and I like that. And yeah,
you look at Randy Weingarten, just the menace that she
was to society in closing down the schools in the
interest of teachers continue to get paid while they sat
around and did nothing.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I know there's a lot of great teachers out there,
but got to admit the unions are a scourge on
the American education system.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
We should not.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Have forced public sector unionized labor. There's just a whole
different kind of tunnel we can go down with regard
to that conversation. But Rachelle, you're absolutely right. Let me
see here. I read an article Ryan that bemoan three
hundred plus COVID desks in the US still handual happened
annually because not enough people were getting the JAB quick

(08:55):
check shows that in twenty three and twenty four some
twenty thousand people died from influ in the US.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Double face palm.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yes, wow, that's a good one to end on for now,
But continue to send your text in.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
You can do so at three three one zero three.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
During the height of COVID, my mom made me and
my dad wear a Maxi. My mom made my dad
wear a Maxi pat over his mouth under two surgical masks.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, that's just insulted.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Well that's kind of what Foch you said to one
mask is good, do.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Your protection if you wear a second mask, But if
you wear a third mask, you're three times as.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Unlikely to get COVID. So please wear a fourth mask
if you can.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
It just makes common sense.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Is this going back to the whole moneyball quote? If
the masks work, why don't the masks work?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
If I'm wearing a mask that should work.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I shouldn't need dragon to wear a mask for my
mask to work, right, No, No, okay, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, I feel.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I feel what you feel out there being lied to.
It's a theme, and no one lied to us more
during COVID or even before that. Then the Corporation for
Public Broadcasting NPR, And.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You're listening to National Public Radio here in Colorado. Do
you listen to CPR tone the time movies? It's the
Dulcet tones. Public radio. I once worked in public radio.
This is CMU public Radio broadcasting throughout Central and Lower
Michigan to the Ogamaw peninsula, and yes, we were instructed

(10:46):
to use that voice. We're not supposed to be like
the way I talk. No, no, you got to divorce
yourself from that. It is very much the annagas tire
Molly Shannon Scotch from Saturday Night Live, schwordty balls. Remember
that this is very good crowd the microphone. You talk
very very warmly. You talk very warmly to the audience.
You've encouraged them to trust the science and the sciences,

(11:07):
doctor Faucci, and please get the jab get the vaccine.
It totally protects you. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Here's Ashley Michaels Fox thirty one reporting that Colorado stations
affiliated with NPR are suing the Trump administration over public
media funding cuts.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Create local Colorado radio stations in the national spotlight.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
This morning.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
They fouled a federal lawsuit with NPR against the Trump
administration over a recent executive order cutting off their federal funding.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Fox thirtyons Ashley Michael's on and taking a deeper dive
into this legal action.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
This lawsuit is complex, but it boils down to one question.
Did President Trump violate free speech and freedom of the press.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
You look at all the media you have right now
there's plenty of coverage.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
That's what President Trump said about NPR and PBS back
in March, before signing an executive order earlier this month
cutting off their federal funding.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Pitch biased to you.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
That statement is now at the center of a new
First Amendment lawsuit filed by NPR and three of Colorado's
public radio stations. It says the order aims to punish
NPR for the content of news and other programming the
president dislikes.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
There's a whole line and history of this. Now, this
isn't the first organization to do this or the first
administration to do this.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
Chris Jennings is the chair of MSU Denver's journalism department.
He says there have been censorship cases between presidents and
the press before, but this one hits close to home
for Colorado.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
There are people that rely on this news a lot
and rely on the services a lot, and so the
impact of this will will hit communities differently.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
According to the lawsuit, KSUT covers twenty seven thousand square
miles in the mostly rural Four Corners area. The suit
says the station is the only source of free and
reliable local news for most of that region. Without federal funding,
nineteen teen percent of ksut's operating budget is gone. Aspen
Public Radio will lose almost eleven percent of its funding,

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and Colorado Public Radio, which broadcasts to ninety percent of
the state, will lose six percent. In a statement, the
local station said, this is not about politics, It's about principle.
When the government tries to limit press freedom or control
the flow of information, we have the obligation to defend
our rights.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
What they're asking for is simply for that order it
out to be passed.

Speaker 7 (13:28):
A federal judge will be the one to decide if
that happens or not. It's also worth noting that a
twenty twenty three case between social media companies and former
President Biden about censorship of posts went all the way
to the Supreme Court. Ashley Michaels Fox thirty one.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Okay, this is mind numbing because there's a key fundamental
difference between what she just mentioned the social media companies
and their lawsuit against the Biden administration for censorship and
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and that is taxpayer dollars.
How much taxpayer funding did Twitter or Facebook receive for

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their endeavors? How much taxpayer funding does iHeart get for
our operations here in Denver or nationally.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
None.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
There's another thing. What gives them the right to access
public funds? Our money, our taxpayer money. And if that
is the case, if you did rely on public funding
for survival, then maybe you should have thought of that
before you went down the yellow brick road to completely
biased news coverage and editorial staffs and newsrooms. We know

(14:41):
this because of the reporting of one Urie Berliner. Now
he talked with Chris Cuomo about this. He wrote an
article outing the fact that NPR had completely overwhelmingly liberal
Democratic at editorial staff. In fact, it was unanimous eighty

(15:04):
seven to nothing, not a single Republican on the editorial
board making those decisions for what to cover and how
to cover it and whether to cover it for NPR
or PBS or anything under the Corporation for Public Broadcasting umbrella.
Here's Catherine Maherr withering in Capitol Hill testimony before Representative

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Jim Jordan Ohen.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
There's more.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
NPR isn't doing much better.

Speaker 9 (15:32):
The CEO, Catherine Marr under Oath insists her newsroom isn't
biased and they follow the highest journalistic standards is MPR.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Biased, Congressman, I have never seen any instance of never
of political bias determining editorial decisions now in.

Speaker 9 (15:51):
The DC area editorial positions at MPR, he said he
found eighty seven registered Democrats zero Republican.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Is that accurate?

Speaker 6 (16:01):
We do not track the numbers or the voter registration?

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Eighty seven to zero, and you're not biased?

Speaker 6 (16:07):
I think that is concerning. If those numbers are accurate.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
They are accurate. I think she knows they're accurate.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Pleading and playing stupid wasn't working for her, and this
is where she was absolutely eviscerated by Representative Brandon Gill, Republican, Texas.

Speaker 10 (16:20):
Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?

Speaker 6 (16:24):
I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier,
I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the
last half decade.

Speaker 11 (16:31):
It has evolved. Why did you tweet that?

Speaker 6 (16:34):
I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't
be able to say, Okay, do.

Speaker 10 (16:38):
You believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy?

Speaker 6 (16:43):
I don't believe that, sir.

Speaker 10 (16:47):
It's reference to a book you were reading at the time,
apparently the Case for Reparations.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
I don't think I've ever read that book, sir.

Speaker 11 (16:54):
You tweeted about it.

Speaker 10 (16:56):
You said you took a day off to fully read
the Case for rep You put that on Twitter in
January of twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I apologies, I don't recall that I did.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Okay, I'd no doubt that your tweet there is correct,
but I don't recall.

Speaker 11 (17:10):
Okay, do you think the white people should pay reparations?

Speaker 6 (17:13):
I have never said that, sir.

Speaker 10 (17:15):
Yes, you did said it in January of twenty twenty.
You tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, Yes, America, Yes,
our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations, yes
on this day.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations
at all.

Speaker 11 (17:30):
What kind of reparations was it a reference to.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
I think it was just a reference to the idea
that we all owe much to the people who came
before us.

Speaker 11 (17:37):
That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, that was a kind way of framing it by
Representative Brandon Gill where you could hear chuckling in the background,
so hearing that that's the CEO of NPR Catherine Mayer.
Those were her beliefs. That's what she tweeted about. That's
her political orientation, and that represents the entire newsroom at NPR.
They should receive public funding to advance leftist propaganda. To

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use your taxpayer dollars in mind, how about no? How
about no?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
The time out? We're back more.

Speaker 12 (18:11):
After this, Ryan Dragon, good morning. So the lady who
was wearing the nit mask, maybe it was just because
she was forced to wear it. I was forced to
put a mask on at the grocery store in the
middle of the night when no one else was there,
and I whipped out my little lace mask just to
appease the Denver police officer that was at the Kings Hoopers.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
How ridiculous gout it? Let me in.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I would appreciate an applaud if it was done in
sheer mockery, like I would just put on one of
the first Halloween masks I hare to ever had as
a little guy in the late seventies was Gene Simmons
kiss mask and just put one of those on, like
you gotta wear a masks? Okay, well I've got one.
Let me show.

Speaker 13 (18:58):
You well on a rock and roll all night and
just sing it to the cop as you're walking in
with the Gene Simmons kiss mask.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Katherine Maher, NPR CEO.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
This is before the disastrous Capitol Hill testimony that she gave.
I believe this pretty much since the deal, her withering
on the stand before Jim Jordan and Brandon Gill and
the other Republicans on that House subcommittee. But this is
her talking about seeking truth in journalism. Seems pretty basic, right,

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That's what you should be doing. Not necessarily, according to
Katherine Maher, CEO of NPR.

Speaker 14 (19:39):
But one of the most significant differences critical for moving
from polarization to productivity is that the wikipedians who write
these articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth. They're
working for something that's a little bit more attainable, which
is the best of what we can know right now,
and after seven years there, I actually believe that they're

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onto something that for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the
truth and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't
necessarily the best place to start. In fact, I think
our reverence for the truth might become might have become
a bit of a distraction. That is preventing us from
finding consensus and getting important things done.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Is it more important to find consensus if that means
not arriving at the truth? And the truth should be
a pretty clear standard. It's either true or it's not.
There might be shades of gray in terms of interpretation
and opinion, but outright stopping the quest in pursuit of truth,

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whether it be on Wikipedia or in media, I think
that might be problematic on a rather large and epic scale.
It leads to this notion of miss information, disinformation, malinformation,
fighting it.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Where does it come from? How do you define it?

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Why is it to people like Catherine Maherr and so
many on the left that all in any that information
comes from the right, or comes from any narrative that
disputes or conflicts with information on the left. If they
would cite examples of misinformation, disinformation, malinformation from the left

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and say we're going to be equal arbiters of justice
in the forum and the arena of public opinion, that
might carry with it some level of credibility. But that's
not what they're doing. Remember Scary Poppins Nina Jenkowitz, Yeah,
she was the Secretary of Misinformation. I think I mean

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it was some Orwellian title like that, as appointed by
the Biden administration. They realized the error of their ways
and it was a complete backfire, and she ended up
not being that she came at this from an entirely
partisan angle. And when you silence only the views you
don't like, well that's a form of neo fascism. Now

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they're accusing, in this lawsuit filed by Colorado's public radio stations,
that the President of the United States is doing that,
silencing views he doesn't like. No, he's turning off the
money faucet for public funding of propaganda and partisan views
as espoused by NPR and PBS. If you want to

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do that, that's fine, do it on your own dime.
Just like me sitting here, I work as an employee
for iHeart. They don't tell me what to say or
how to say it. I am free to say whatever
I want however I want, within the realm and confines
of FCC guidelines and regulations. Same for Michael Brown, same

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for Dan Kaplis, same for Rosskaminski over on KOA or
Mandy Connell as opinion host. But those are privately funded
and iHeart has to find a way to come up
with that money, and that brings us to some texts
here as well. Ryan PBS does pledge drives, ask for
cars to donate, ask for people to put them in

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their wills, and has many likely filthy rich friends and sponsors.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Fact check true.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'd be curious to know what their gross revenues are,
including taxpayer dollars. They may rival Black Lives Matter PSPBS
News Hour is horribly biased. I watch to hear what
they are saying. I get that. I think Dan Caplis
does that as well. I feel I get enough of
it having to edit audio for Dan and for myself,
and I don't subject myself to any more of that

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than I have to, kind of like when I'm watching
The View.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
But that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
As much as I can't stand the view, the ladies
on the View, what the View does. It's privately funded
by ABC. ABC can make the unilateral decision whether or
not to have the show, whether or not to have
Sunny hostin Joy Behar will be Goldberg on the show,
whether or not sponsors provide enough funding to justify airing

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the show, and they choose to do so, but they
don't receive public funding to be morons on the air.
And what PBS and NPR does is even more nefarious
because they present themselves as some kind of above the
fray objective journalists.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
They're not.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
They are not.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
It is biased by anybody's perspective, especially from ours, but
they don't bother. I mean, eighty seven to nothing, the
editorial slant in their newsroom eighty seven registered Democrats to
zero Republicans, and that Catherine Maher, the CEO, would claim
she doesn't know that, first of all, is hogwash.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
There's no way she doesn't know that.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
And to the fact that she does know it and
doesn't do anything about it. This is the point I
always make is if you truly want it to be diverse,
if diversity in quotes mattered to you, then you would
hire maybe a Michael danger Brown to be on the
editorial board of NPRPBS. It sounds funny, you chuckle just
thinking about it, but it'd be valuable.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I would argue the fact that we don't even have
that kind of a pole around here in our building,
and when we look across the newsroom, but I think
just looking around so you can tell, all right, I
know where that guy leans I know where that guy leans,
I know where she leans, I know where they lean.
So I think even without taking an exact poll of Okay,
which way do you go?

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Which way do you go? Which way do you go?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
But you know you kind of know, you know you
do know, Yeah, I would. I'm thinking about in my head.
I'm doing the math.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
I would say, frankly, we have a pretty diverse newsroom.
There are definitely our fair share of people that would
be considered left of center in our Kowa newsroom, and
then there are those that I think lean right.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think there are probably a little bit more that
lean left.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
But what I like about our KOA newsroom is what
I just said is that there is some measure level
of diversity.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Of opinions insides there.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
I believe that I believe, and certainly with our opinion hosts,
that offsets the entire building. We're not a monolith, in
other words, right within these walls, whether it's KOA or
k how.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's my point.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
And again it's almost like it's the irony of it
of we're a privately funded company.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
iHeart.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
We don't receive any public dollars or donations. We don't
do pledge drives for ourselves. We don't give away you know,
the tote bags and the coffee cups. You can buy them,
but we're not doing pledge drives. And yet we have
more ideological balance here than they do in a publicly
funded NPR PBS newsroom.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
And what's really cool is we all get along with
each other.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's the interesting.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
We may disagree on a whole bunch of things, but
we're all still a friendly, cordial and generally want to
hang out with each other.

Speaker 11 (26:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I joke around with those guys all the time. And
what I what I feel is a lot of them
who maybe don't travel in the circles that I do.
And what I mean by that is the media I consume,
the people with whom I associate Colorado GOP, people I
have on my shows, people that they might not have
access to. They'll tap into me for knowledge for my opinion.

(27:21):
Hey Ryan, what do you think of this?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
You know?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
And you know, I'll make fun of Donald Trump from
time to time he does something funny.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I'm not, you know, like totally in the tank. I
like Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
And overall the verdict is I'm glad I voted for
him three times, and I'm glad that he's president. But
I think they trust that I'm going to give them
kind of the straight scoop from the.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Way I see it, you know, And I like that.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I like that diversity of opinion and that dynamism that
we have in our newsroom, but they don't have that
at NPR. And so again, if you want to do
the whole leftist thing, that's fine, do it on your
own dime. Well more of your text to close out
our number two three three one zero three and when
we come back, also sound for I'm uri Berlinard. He's
the one that blew the lid off this whole thing.

(28:02):
He worked for NPR. He revealed the numbers from within
those walls. He kind of tattled in a way, and
he took a lot of heat Ford. He appeared with
Chris Cuomo back in April, and he had a lot
to say. Ryan Schuling filling in, this is the situation
without Michael Brown more After.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
This, RFK Junior has said multiple times he would not
get the flu shot. There are two studies now that
I've seen, one where it shows more seniors taking the
slu shot. And you would think once they do that
the flu rate would go down for them.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's quite the.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Opposite, it goes up. And recently this year they now
said if you take the flu shot, you're twenty seven
percent more likely to get the flu. Follow that science, people, Well.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
I think that there are different categories of people out there,
and it's a risk reward analysis that you had to
do on a case by case basis for yourself as
an individual. I think if you have comorbidities and you're elderly,
or you have COPD, your propensity to severe consequences from
something like the flu, then you are pretty probably better off.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Getting a flu shot. I don't know that. I don't
know that my dad gets them.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
He is the example I would use, just as somebody
that's elderly, seventy eight and he has COPD from yours
of smoking. He has quit for almost twenty years now
and he's in a lot better shape than he would
have been otherwise. But for myself, average health, fifty years old,
I don't get flu shots and kind of for the
reasons that alexis stated, But make the decision for yourself.

(29:39):
And I think that's the theme for today, and I
think that's what RFK Junior is trying to communicate to
people is be your own best arbiter of truth and
do your own research, and not that you're the doctor,
but take the doctor's advice and input into consideration. You
always end up making your own decisions. But get a

(29:59):
doctor that you like, the one that you trust. Hopefully
you have one, and if you don't keep looking. Speaking
of trust, I don't trust NPR or PBS or the
Corporation for Public Broadcasting. This is sad because I think
they've provided programming of value over the years. As I said,
I once worked there in the mid nineties. It was
my first paying job in broadcasting. Was CMU Public Radio.

(30:22):
I was lucky enough to be the host of night
Side Jazz, taking you through the Night and into the
Light on CMU Public Radio eighty.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Nine point five.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Fm Ury Berliner also worked within that world, and he
blew the whistle, spilled the beans as it were, on
what was going on inside the newsrooms at NPR and PBS.
And this is what he told Chris Cuomo back in April.

Speaker 15 (30:48):
I'm not surprised by the response that came from management
and the same managers that I've been making a lot
of these points about and they're certainly entitled to that perspective.
I will say I've had a lot of support from colleagues,
and many of them unexpected who say they agree with me.
Some of them say this confidentially, but I think there's
been a lot of response saying, look, these are things

(31:11):
that need to be addressed.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
We haven't.

Speaker 15 (31:13):
We've been too relocked and too frightened, too timid to
deal with these things. And I think that this is
this is the right opportunity to bring it.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
All out in the open, and this is why he
issued the op ed that drew a lot of headlines
and raised a lot of eyebrows. The evolution of NPR
from what was once a culturally elite kind of high
browed experience still is, by the way, but it only
caters to the coastal liberal elites who tend to be

(31:42):
their biggest donors.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
And that's fine.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
If you want to use it as a business model,
you have underwriters. I know how this all works. I
used to help post one of the pledge drives for
NPR and the local affiliates there, and that's the arguments
that you know, there's only public radio in the Southwest
corner of the state of colleg Dorado at the four corners,
et cetera. Well, okay, then you got two choices. Either

(32:04):
be more objective and unbiased in your reporting, or go
all out be the leftist you are and that you
want to be, but pay for it yourselves. Do it
through pledge drives, get more from your donors. We heard
in the earlier report from Fox thirty one's Ashley Michaels,
you know this station is going to lose eleven percent.
This station's going to lose six percent. Well, it sounds
like you still got a vast majority of your funding.

(32:27):
Just amp up the fundraising then, or go to an
advertising model like we have here at iHeart.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
You can do that. You can do that. That's an option.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
You don't have a right to our tax dollars. With
the goal the audacity of these people. More from Uri Berliner.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
I think it's evolved.

Speaker 15 (32:43):
You know, I've been at NPR a long time, twenty
five years. You could say I'm a lifer and it's
a place I've always loved working. But when I started
there was a liberal orientation. But I think we were
more guided by curiosity, open mindedness. You know, you said
talked about policy, and we were kind of nerdy and
really like to dig into things and understand the complexity

(33:04):
of things that I think that's evolved over the years
into a much narrower kind of niche thinking a group
thing that's really clustered around very selective progressive views that
don't they don't allow enough air, enough enough spaciousness to
consider all kinds of perspectives.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
He's right, and that's all true independent of Trump, but
we all know that Donald Trump was the galvanizing force
that really solidified much of this on the left, and
in the case of NPR, that is true as well.
Their hatred, their animus toward Donald Trump fueled their rage
and a lot of their motivation for reporting that became
emotional over logical.

Speaker 11 (33:42):
I'm not worried, you know.

Speaker 15 (33:43):
I think I think I think people want open.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Dialogue.

Speaker 15 (33:49):
I think people want to have honest debates, and I
think you know, you talked about there's a hunger for this.
Most people are not locked into ideologies, and I think
many people are just sick of it, and this one
of the reasons people distrust so much of the media,
whether it's legacy media, whether it's conservative media. You know

(34:10):
what you're getting. It's all pre digested and spit out
to you. You know what the take is going to be,
and I think it's ultimately unsatisfying, and for a vast.

Speaker 11 (34:18):
Part of this nation, they don't want it.

Speaker 15 (34:20):
So I think there's an opportunity there for much broader
perspectives in how we cover the news.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I think he's a little Pollyanna about this. I like
Arie Berliner, and I like that he's being honest about this,
but I don't think he's really cutting to the core
of what this is. Do people on the left, especially
those in the media, want to have an honest debate?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Have you encountered that, because I know I have not.
That's not what they want.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
They want to browbeat you into submission into their ideological view.
Thus the bill thirteen twelve, and thus our next topic
coming up in our number three, which is this new
report finds over one thousand hate groups in US. Here's
which ones are in Colorado. Guests who compiled that list
of so called hate groups? The Southern Poverty Law Center,

(35:06):
hardly a credible source.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
We'll get into that more after this