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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ryan, I think it's safe to say if Governor Poulis
had any libertarian in him, it's been henpecked out of
him by Marlin.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, to start with that evidence, you just have to
go back to meetout Day, which Marlin apparently is either
vegetarian or is he a vegan?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Kelly. Marlon Reese the.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
First gentleman Colorado, and he has a very hostile nasty
words in a Facebook post. This is where these two,
Marlon and Jared tend to save their most vitriol, it seems,
for is in a Facebook post.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
But how well that meetout thing works? Well, it backfired
so spectacularly.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
A good friend of mine, Carl Ellie, who runs Gigi's
Barbecue down in Pablo, had a meet in Day and
the place was packed, and.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Jared Paulus tried to take credit for it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
He said, you don't buy being attention to meet out
Day and now this reaction. I'm actually a grill master.
I'm not making that up. Google it, he went on.
And he actually with a straight face told everybody out there,
I pride myself on my grilling abilities with various meats,
and Marlon Reese isn't eating any of it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
He's a vegan.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And again Marlin was very disparaging toward our Colorado cattle
ranchers and farmers out there.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
This is what they think of us.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
There's so much disdain and condescension.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You only have the memory of a goldfish. So I
forgot what I said. Now you're gonna know what I say. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh no, I'm Deshanka's son, and Kelly knows what that means. Remember,
like an elephant steel trap. I mean my mom right
up to the very end, I was asking her, you know,
talking to her stories about like Halloween nineteen eighty three
and Counts Scary on Channel four. Oh yeah, and she was,
you know, near the end, but all lucid right up
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and till the end. And I would I go to her.
She was like our family historian. My dad doesn't remember crap,
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I remember that. No, but my mom would be, well
was this day?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I remember this because and then now with her gone,
I got no point of reference. But the point being
with the meatout day, I mean spectacular backfire.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You remember when that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Was going on kel and Marlarie. She just thought he
is so sanctimonious.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I sure do. And it worked out perfectly for us
people who celebrated meat in day.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh yeah with my body.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
My high school baseball teammate, Derek Luchka, who still supplies
beef for your family, Kelly, as I understand right.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Luchka Premier Black Angus. If you're looking for it, I
can hook you up. He's just a local, independent cattle
rancher does his own thing North and Eton high quality
beef products too.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
He's not paying me to say that, Kelly, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I only report the facts here, and that's what and
tell us the reew use that Lutchka beef has gotten
from your two kids, Trevor and Haley.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, you know, the funny thing is that when a
visit from here, one thing I have to have because
it's so different. His beef is such a different quality,
right then the beef you get at.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
The grocery store.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So the kids always want to have that kind of
beef for whether it's steak or taco meat or whatever.
I always have to make.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That just the burger meat alone, you know, tremendous. I
mean groundshuck of ground stirling. There's no additives, no preservatives,
no filler.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
No When you get it straight from the packer.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You do, so, I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's what does it break down to when you buy
an ample amount like four dollars a pound something like that.
I think it's it's pretty it's very affordable and very reasonable. Yeah,
for sure, and you're helping a local cattle rancher. And
if nothing else, I want to provide that narrative to pushback.
I mean, these are the people, are farmers and answers
in the state of Colorado that provide the food that
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goes on your table. And for Marlon Reeese to disparage them,
I mean, it just beyond the pale. But this is
what happens when they live in their ivory towers and
they don't have to worry about anything. They don't have
to consort with, you know, the plebeians out They're the
lower level tiered individuals in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
We don't matter to them. That's why it was so
hilarious yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I believe I went over this SoundBite on my program
Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
But Senator Michael Bennett, all of a sudden, he's all
concerned about rural Colorado voters and trump'supporters were good and
then Medicaid and it's all they got.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Suddenly, now that he's running for governor, right, and he's
trying to garner every vote and seek under every nook
and cranny and corner of Colorado, just to make sure
he's going to feign support and understanding and some kind
of sympathy for those that again he wouldn't deign to
condescend to talk to under normal circumstances. But suddenly, Kelly,
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Senator Bennett is really concerned about people who vote for Trump,
okay and live in out state Colorado.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Do you believe him? No?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, no, maybe, yeah, let's get to that audio, Shelley,
Senator Michael Bennett. And if you think my impression is
off base, I mean, folks, you just got to listen
to the guy.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The funny part is.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He he talks about the Trump tax bill being completely incoherent,
kind of like he gets when he gets mad at
Ted Cruz on the Senate floor.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
There are people they flooded lot of work.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Well, I think we're gonna make sure the American people
understand what's in this bill. It is completely incoherent. The
Republicans can't agree on what they're trying to do with it,
and the cuts to Medicaid are going to be devastating
to rural America and to rural Colorado. I've spent a
ton of time listening to healthcare providers in red parts
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of the state that voted for Donald Trump that are
not engaged in waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
They're engaged in.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Trying to deliver healthcare on his shoe string as it is.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And my point yesterday was Democrats are aoka with waste,
fraud and abuse. They're not willing to cut any of
that out because it might cut Medicaid funding to some
people who need it.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So therefore it's just the cost of doing business.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We're going to have to tolerate all this waste, all
this fraud, all this abuse. Able bodied thirty year old
males who are just sitting at home collecting medicaid, not working,
not contributing to society. No, they can go ahead and
live off the company dime, the government dole. Illegal aliens
who are in this country without documentation to use the
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Left's terminology, that are not contributing to the funds such
as medicane, Medicare, social Security.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They should be able to get social scary card.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They should be able to draw off those benefits that
we have paid into our entire lives as American citizens,
as American taxpayers. That includes legal immigrants as well. That
is who my fight is for on this front. Legal
immigrants who came here the right way, who followed the
procedure and protocols and laws of the United States, who
want to be Americans, who made the effort, did their
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due diligence to do it the right way, they should
be punished. Those who cut the line should be rewarded.
And that's the fair assessment for the kind generous assessment
for those of the who's who cut the line. We
talked about this with Sheriff Steve Reims a little bit
earlier on people who come here illegally, by and large
vast majority. They're coming here illegally for a reason, and
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that reason is because if they tried to come here legally,
they couldn't, And why couldn't they Because they know they'd
be vetted properly and escorted.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Out of our country.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
They have criminal records or histories that might prevent them
from entering the United States legally, so they do it illegally.
What other reason is there other than you don't want
to be inconvenienced and you feel entitled like you have
a right to be here as an illegal, as a
foreign national. You don't. You just don't. And I'm not
going to entertain any arguments to the contrary that say, well,
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these poor, huddled, unwashed masses and we're the land of opportunity,
then come here legally. And if you can't wait your turn,
I'm sorry. I have no sympathy for such people. And
the thing is, you hear this from me, but this
is the vibe and the general consensus of legal immigrants
in this country, people who are first generation Americans, whose
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parents fought to be here. Notice how many Republicans are
represented in our Colorado General Assembly with these types of
people in Florida, with the Cuban Americans who have immigrated
into South Florida and turned Miami Dade County red, because
they know they know the price, the cost of socialism
that they were escaping, They know the promise, the opportunity
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that America provides them, and they know the reward of
being an American citizen. They take that seriously, They hold
that in the highest esteem. Those who would come here illegally,
flaunt that process, flaunt our laws, and are not incentivized
to follow any of our laws, as evidenced by that
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egregious car accident that wasn't an accident, it was vehicular homicide.
A fifteen year old illegal alien should not have been driving,
did not have a license, did not have permission to
use the car. But his family's here illegally, so they're
just going to do whatever the hell they want to do.
And he kills a twenty four year old woman and
has his sentence reduced because Amy Padden, the district attorney
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in the eighteenth formerly where George Brockler John Kellner were
in charge, she comes in, oh, wait a minute, that
might cause this young man to be deported.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Let's read the charges.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Meanwhile, had there been a fifteen year old of any
other background that was a legal status citizen in this country,
you can bet your bottom dollar the book would have
been thrown at that individual, regardless of their ethnic status, background, whatever.
But because they're bending over backwards to accommodate illegal aliens
by any means necessary, she was willing to.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Reduce that sentence.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's hogwash, And that's the kind word for it you
could text into the program. Got plenty of these to
catch up on, and we appreciate you joining as well.
At three three one zero three, a brief announcement here.
This is breaking news Xxxy Athletics suing Colorado for violating
the right to speak truth that men and women are different.
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This is Jennifer Say, the founder, the CEO, who's being
assisted now by Alliance Defending Freedom and thank God literally
for them for ADF ADF has filed suit on behalf
of the apparel company Xxxy Athletic after the state of
Colorado passes a law restricting the brand's ability to refer
to male athletes as customers as male if they identify
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as female. This is all tied into thirteen twelve being
signed into law in Jennifer Say will join me on
Ryan Schuling Live coming up later today at three oh six.
That's just been confirmed, so FYI file that one away.
I'm sure Jennifer will have a lot to say about it.
A dad joke for the day. You're welcome s e
(11:30):
y that's how you spell it. Let's go to the
texts Ryan, I went out that day, meet out day.
We're talking about Marlon Reese's Day.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Let's celebrate tofu. I want a steak.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
This person says, I went out that day and bought
almost fifty pounds of meat like chicken and pork, not beef,
as I get all of our beef from Nebraska on
my parents' farm.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Is that Adam texting in? He's from Nebraska. Kelly's husband
Colorado beef.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
All right, Lutchka, people get in touch, get to know me,
contact me. Dragon has got my contact info. I will
put you in touch with Derek. Best beef you'll ever have.
Black angus swear to the Lord. Let me see here,
I'm talking about Oh Trump on the energy Okay, thank
you for this. He also announced the executive order to
move quickly on the newer nuclear technologies. Michael's always talking
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about that. I'm a big all of the above energy strategist.
Heidi Ganal campaigned on this in her run for governor,
and I think it was a strong platform. It's one
of the things that I agree with Andrew Yang on
of all people, and that is nuclear is clean, it's efficient,
it's accessible for the masses, it's easier to distribute. There's
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not as much waste product, although it needs to be
taken into account with nuclear fission until we get fusion
plants and power of the sun, that type of thing
that's still a future technology.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
We hope that out there that will happen.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
But the Nimbi crowd of the energy elite on the
left would have you believe we can power our entire
nation on solar and wind and maybe hydro electric that
we can't. Nuclear power, however, could make up that deficit.
But the fear about nuclear stems back to three Mile
Island ladies and gentlemen that happened in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Okay, I was in kindergarten. I'm fifty.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Nuclear power is safe, efficient and effective at powering the nation,
and I am all for building more nuclear power plants
to supplement whatever green energies are out there. And we
can now access oil, coal, natural gas in much cleaner
ways and methods, fracking being among them than we could
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in the past without destroying the surrounding lands and by
using discretion protecting the environment. Ronda Santis has done this
in Florida as governor the Everglades. They're not going to
frack the Everglades. You have to be respond constable stewards
of the environment. I'm a very pro environment Republican myself,
but that doesn't mean we should handcuff ourselves when it
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comes to energy. The other part of that, if you're
truly in favor of a green agenda, John Carey's flying
everywhere on private jets, so is Bernie Sanders AOC, so
is Credit Thunberg, and everybody going to the World Climate
A Line, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But they're against nuclear and they're willing to use.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Modes of transportation that they're trying to prohibit the masses
from using. But in all of the above, strategy needs
to be employed, and it needs to be signed on
to by countries like China and in India. So if
you're going to say, the United States is going to
restrict our emissions and we're going to handcuff our economy
to do so, but we're going to let China and
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India dump filth into the air. We share the same atmosphere,
we live on the same planet. If you're concerned about that,
why do you never hear Credit Thunberg, AOC, Bernie Sanders,
John Carey, Elizabeth Warren, Achim Jeffries.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Anybody m the lost Oh no, not her, not her again?
How dare you?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Why are they never calling out China in India? Why
aren't they protesting in Beijing because they'd be arrested and
sent to the labor camps along with the Wiger Muslims.
But even on international soil, they're not calling out China.
I don't understand that if you were a true dedicated
green left disc green New Deal, you should be hardest
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on China. Yet they're not. Kelly, make that makes sense
for me, if you would please, Why are the Libs
avoiding criticism of China when it comes to clean energy?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
They're allowed to do whatever they want.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It's quite sanctimonious.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
How many coal plants China continues to build on a
monthly basis.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I mean it's it's incredible in India too, with all
their pollution. Yeah, and I mean these are the people
that need to kind of step up to the place.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
If we don't get their buy in, then our efforts
are feud off, I mean, don't.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I'm still in.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Favor of doing what we can to have clean energy
to the degree that we are able, but not at
the expense of our economy, and certainly not if China
and India are running rough shot over the entire planet.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Well, also, they can't shove it down our throats either,
with like the electric car mandates and all of that
that Trump finally renegged upon.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Anyway else, Notice that Kelly's gone from batman Kelly to.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Okay. Sounds like Kennedy now, is it?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
It sounds I don't know that's that's better or worse
the RFK junior version of Kelly.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Okay. I like that evolution.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
We'll be talking more about China, China coming up in
our next segment. That's one of the things I missed
the most about the Orange Man was him calling out
and talking about China.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Sir, why do you call it China virus? It's very
racist because it comes from China.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But Scott Powell, author of Rediscovering America, he'll join us
as the United States continues in this kind of tariff
standoff with Hijinping and the Chinese Communist Empire about our
over reliance on China for twenty key rare earth minerals
and elements and what the end around might be per
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Scott Powell, and again he is the author of Rediscovering America.
How the National Holidays tell an amazing story about who
we are. He'll be coming up in our next segment
here on the situation without Michael Brown, new texts coming
in Ryan new nuclear power plants use.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Old fuel rods.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I think a couple of things that stand in the
way is where do you dispose of the waste product
that nuclear power plants create. You have to have a
safe storage facility for that, and it needs to be
fairly remote away from human populations. The other thing with
regard to oil and exploration for it drilling, we can
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drill for all the crude oil we want. Our refinery
capacity is so limited and bottlenecked in this country.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
We had not built a new refinery in what is
it thirty years maybe more.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You know, the regulations on that building off the coasts
of Louisiana, Florida, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Had become a very cost prohibitive.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So until we had more refinery capacity, our energy costs
won't truly get as low as they could be if
we did increase that time out back after this on
the situation.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
We're very happy that President Trump gave the exemption to
electronic goods, and not just because they want to sell
more to the US it's because they took it as
a sign that Trump was caving into them. And that's
the only way they can win this trade war is
if Trump, who holds all the high cards, decides to
preemptively surrender.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And that's Gordon Shang his analysis on China, and he
is an expert that we refer too often on my
program I Am Sholing Live and joining us now. He
had a recent op ed entitled Trump can Do the
Impossible simultaneously strength in America's financials and its national security
and keying on on the detail on America's over reliance
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on China for twenty key rare earth minerals and elements.
This also extends to the production of microchips, etc. That
we rely on Taiwan for as a bulwark against China.
And joining us now in that discussion. He is the
author of Rediscovering America as well, Scott Powell. Scott, thank
you so much for your time.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Yeah, absolutely, nice to be with you.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Absolutely, And let's start with those twenty key rare earth
minerals and elements. We know that Donald Trump has recently
struck a deal with Ukraine for that type of exploration
and mining of materials that maybe we can't get here
due to environmental restrictions. But your point is that because
we don't get them here, that causes us to seek
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out kind of nar Well, shall we say, like China
for those rare earth minerals that we need. How much
does maybe reliance on Ukraine for those types of materials
offset what we might need from China.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Well, I can't answer that question. I don't know the
scope of the rare earth materials in the Ukraine, but
I can say this just flat out, that we should
be tapping the rare earth minerals in the United States. First,
there is no doubt if we have a political opposition
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to the survival of our country, then I say that
these are the kind of leaders we don't need. We
need leaders who recognize the threats that America faces and
are going to look first and foremost to the resources
that we have in order to combat and deter and
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defeat those threats. So we should be tapping into all
the rare earth mineral opportunities that we have in the
within the United States.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You point out as well that there is the advanced
technology of fracking that has unlocked access to so much
in the form of fossil fuels in the United States
that we didn't have previous access to, and as recently
as maybe twenty thirty years ago, we were over relyingt
on the Middle East as a source for our oil
and now natural gas especially has exploded as a product
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here in the United States. Are there similar alert technologies
in your view, Scott, that would allow us to access
these rare earth minerals without The criticism from the left
has always been, well, there's strip mining, it'll cause tremendous
damage to the environment, things that a country like China
doesn't care about.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Well, the heck with that. If it involves the survival
of the United States, we strip mind. We do what
we have to do to survive. If our defense capability
relies on rare earth minerals, we need to tap into those,
and we should first tap the recent versus that we
have here at home. So, you know, the work to
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be done by Trump and others is the work of
the Bowie pulpit. The American people will support, uh developed,
you know, the tapping of rare earth, of domestic rare
earth materials. There's no doubt about that. If it's put
if it's framed correctly, that our defense capability and survival
depend upon rare earth materials that we have here at home. Uh,
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then uh, we shouldn't be looking overseas for them if
we have them here at home, because it's more reliable
and we we are self you know, we we can
support uh, you know, our our defense needs by our
own resources. That is the ideal and optimum approach to take,
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not relying on foreign sourcing for critical materials. It's one
thing if you're relying on foreign sources for uncritical materials.
These are critical materials.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Scott Powell our guest.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You can read more about it his article op ed
entitled Trump can do the impossible simultaneously strength in America's
financials and its national security. I want to focus a
little bit more on the first part of that, Scott,
because you talk about the importance of these in terms
of national security and our defense, but also in terms
of our economy and the cost of goods and doing
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business here in the United States. If we were to produce, mine,
and source lithium, cobalt, etc. Here in the United States,
what that would mean for the price, say of a
car battery for an electric vehicle, the price of the
electric vehicle itself, the manufacture of it in the United States,
the ability of the average consumer to purchase such vehicles.
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This seems like it would be a win across the
board for everybody, even the environmentalist on the left.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
Well, you know, politics certainly makes strange bedfollows. And you
would think that you would think that Elon Musk who
was a hero because he he really did so much
to uh, you know, to promote you know, non non
hydrocarbon burning fuel fuel cars, that is to say, electric
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electric vehicles. Uh, he was a hero because that was
favored by the liberal side. Right. Well, as soon as
you aligned himself with Donald Trump, he became the enemy
and people went after his Tesla dealerships and and uh,
his his cars. You know, it's it's unbelievable how how
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politics has become so so warped in our country and
so so divisive. We haven't We have national interests. The
national interests are number one survival that trumps all other
national interests. And you know, the idea that that we
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are dependent on foreign sources for critical materials is a
dangerous place to be. It just is, especially if it's
a hostile foreign country like China. China now controls twenty
of the rare earth. Of twenty rare earth materials that
we need in our high tech defense industries are controlled
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by China.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Scott, you correctly point out that the US was the
largest producer of these rare earths until the nineteen eighties,
and I mentioned the environmental barriers that then came into
place between then and now. But now under a Trump
administration with Lee Zelden as the head of the Environmental
Protection Agency, how much of this do you believe could
be remedied through executive actions and orders reformation of the
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EPA itself, and how much would require an Act of
Congress and able to really assert that these rare earth
minerals could be obtained domestically and that there would not
be the kind of slow walking environmental barriers that we've
seen over these last fifty years.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Well, no, I certainly can't can't assure anything, but I
think that it's necessary to really use the bully pulpit
to explain the stakes, to describe and explain to the
American people why we need to take a new course
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of action. And of course, you know we're all environmentalists.
You don't want to deface nature unnecessarily. So by all means,
best mining practices should be used. But many of these
materials are in very remote places that are not really
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visited the public. I mean, we're certainly not going to
do rare earth mining in national parks. But there's twenty
eight percent of the land mass in America, including Alaska,
is owned by the federal government. That's a huge swath
of land, and much of it is in the western
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part of the United States, where there are more there
there are probably more rare earth materials there than say
on the eastern Eastern Seaboard area. In the agricultural states.
You know, Wyoming is a great example of a state
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that increasingly important because of its They've discovered massive amounts
of oil in Wyoming, and so I would hope that
there would be support for it by by the states.
These many of these states tend to be more i
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would say, more conservative, recognizing that we have national interests
that need to be protected and that you know, that
requires some contribution from the states. So I'm an optimist,
I really am. If if people are if it's explained
clearly to people and it's not an it's not a
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hard story to understand, and as a matter of fact,
as the story is explained, I would I would reckon
that there will be many Americans that say, why did
you people in government allow this to happen to us?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And the politics get in the way of that for sure.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Yeah, this this, this is traitorous behavior. Almost that you
would that you you, you would become dependent on your
enemy that is communist China for the very necessary elements
for your military. It's it's it's that that's a horrible
position to be in, and yet that's sort of where
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we are. So in no time to lose. We need
to get on it. And Donald Trump, I think, is
he's got a lot in his plate, but this is
a very important area.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
You can drill down on the details.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Pun intended at townhall dot com, where the op ed
is entitled Trump can do the impossible simultaneously strength in
America's financials and its national security. Scott Powell, our guest
and the writer of that op ed. Scott, always appreciate
your insights and thank you for your time today.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Absolutely it's a player.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Scott Powell joining us one final timeout will send you
into the rest of your Wednesday after these words on
the situation without Michael Brown. I'm shuling filling in yesterday
and today and the situation without Michael Brown. John Caldera
Independence Institute will be in tomorrow and Friday, and I'm
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looking forward to that along with Dragon and Kelly and
all of you here on six point thirty. K how
get to your text in just a moment, just real briefly.
I'm a big baseball nerd. Kelly knows this, and we're
making history. Not the right kind, but we're making history
here in Denver with our poor Colorado Rockies. Now, this
really does resemble the Cleveland known as the Indians in
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the film Major League, and we need some version of
Charlie Sheen to save the day. Nine and forty six.
That is the current record of the Rockies. They lost
in heartbreaking fashion last night at Wrigley Field against the Cubs.
I was watching this game, Michael Bush check swing should
have been called a strike, wasn't.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
The TV guys lost it. Don't blame them.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He goes on to single in a run and the
Cubbies win an extra innings. The historical precedence of this
nine and forty six modern baseball history, that's the worst
through fifty five games. The modern baseball history started in
the year nineteen hundred. My great grandfather, Martin James Schuling,
was eight years old, the father of my grandfather who
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served in World War Two. My great grandfather was in
World War One. You have to go back a little
bit further in the history of baseball into the eighteen
nineties to find teams that are comparable. And one of
those the eighteen ninety five Louisville Colonels, not the Kentucky Colonels,
not the colonel in terms of Kentucky fried chicken, but
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they were fried and at this point in the season,
through fifty five games, the Colonels were one game worse
at eight and forty seven compared to the Rockies at
nine and forty six. The eighteen ninety nine Cleveland Spiders, well,
through fifty five games they were ten and forty five.
They were one game better. But this is the history
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that the Colorado Rockies are competing with. Now they're on
the road to wrap up that series, I believe in
Chicago against the Cubs tonight, Tanner Gordon on the mound
for the Rockies against Matthew Boyd, former Detroit Tiger left
hander for the Cubs. So stay tuned for more from
the Rockies. We hope they turn a winning streak around
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at some point. You can hear it all over an
eight to fifty KOA. You know, I talked to Jerry
Shemil not long ago, one of the voices along with
Jack Corgan of the Rockies, and just how difficult it
must be as a broadcaster because you got to tell
the story and you don't want to lie to your audience.
But people know right so you don't have to keep
beating over the head with it about the historical nature
in a bad way of this season. But you tell
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the story, lay the facts out as they are, you
say the record, and I don't know, you look for
other stories to tell. This is where the challenge comes in.
It was Jack Buck, Joe's father who talked about you.
It's easy to call a winning game or you know,
a game winning walk off home run for a winning team,
but it's these times that really challenge a baseball broadcaster.
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You know, can you tell the story in an interesting
way for a team that just can't seem.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
To shoot straight?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And that's our hometown, Colorado Rockies go to the text
to close things out at.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Three three one zero three here here is this.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think we don't just source our own rare earth
minerals for our needs. We need to make a goal
to find enough to be the source for other nations
export them. Yeah, become a net exporter of rare earth minerals.
I like this thinking we want to be a source
for our allies, that we become the number one exporter
of energy in the world. Having dominance in those two
resources would give us a great economy and help us
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stabilize our allies and make us so much safer. I
love this conversation, sor I couldn't work in a sarcastic comment.
Those are required on the situation. Michael Brown's so shame
shame for that, but great points that you made slid
time this time, don't do it again. Michael be mad
on Monday, and I've seen him angry. You don't want
to see him angry. Kind of like incredible Hulk type stuff. Ryan,
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I talked to a friend who lived near Three Mile
Island when the news was all about the accident in
the New York area. He wondered what I was talking about.
The local news wasn't saying anything about it. Now, remember
that's nineteen seventy nine. See basically had four sources of
televised news CBS, ABC, NBC, and PBS. But three Mile Island.
I mean, that was the last disaster on American soil.
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There was the Fukushima incident in Japan, not an earthquake though,
so it wasn't anything well, and then Chernobyl Chernobyl in
the Soviet Union strengths. But these have been many decades now.
It's so much safer to produce and utilize nuclear energy now.
I don't understand the fear factor associated with it or
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the NIMBI factor.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Not in my backyard.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You know, I would gladly welcome a nuclear power plant
here in Colorado. Have us be the source, the net
exporter for energy. You know, a lot of water is
exported from the Rocky Mountains and the snowpack that derives
from that to our neighboring desert states like Arizona. If
we had nuclear power here in Colorado, I think that
should be something that's unifying and bipartisan that those who
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love the environment should get behind, because we're not going
to power America on solar, wind and hydroelectric. That's just
not realistic and it's not going to happen. It is
realistic to expect on Caldera. He'll be here tomorrow on Friday.
BROWDI back on Monday. Tune in for me later on
today two to four Here on six point thirty k
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Speaker 7 (35:07):
M.
Ryan, I think it's safe to say if Governor Poulis
had any libertarian in him, it's been henpecked out of
him by Marlin.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, to start with that evidence, you just have to
go back to meetout Day, which Marlin apparently is either
vegetarian or is he a vegan?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Kelly. Marlon Reese the.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
First gentleman Colorado, and he has a very hostile nasty
words in a Facebook post. This is where these two,
Marlon and Jared tend to save their most vitriol, it seems,
for is in a Facebook post.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
But how well that meetout thing works? Well, it backfired
so spectacularly.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
A good friend of mine, Carl Ellie, who runs Gigi's
Barbecue down in Pablo, had a meet in Day and
the place was packed, and.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Jared Paulus tried to take credit for it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
He said, you don't buy being attention to meet out
Day and now this reaction. I'm actually a grill master.
I'm not making that up. Google it, he went on.
And he actually with a straight face told everybody out there,
I pride myself on my grilling abilities with various meats,
and Marlon Reese isn't eating any of it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
He's a vegan.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And again Marlin was very disparaging toward our Colorado cattle
ranchers and farmers out there.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
This is what they think of us.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
There's so much disdain and condescension.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You only have the memory of a goldfish. So I
forgot what I said. Now you're gonna know what I say. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh no, I'm Deshanka's son, and Kelly knows what that means. Remember,
like an elephant steel trap. I mean my mom right
up to the very end, I was asking her, you know,
talking to her stories about like Halloween nineteen eighty three
and Counts Scary on Channel four. Oh yeah, and she was,
you know, near the end, but all lucid right up
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and till the end. And I would I go to her.
She was like our family historian. My dad doesn't remember crap,
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I remember that. No, but my mom would be, well
was this day?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I remember this because and then now with her gone,
I got no point of reference. But the point being
with the meatout day, I mean spectacular backfire.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You remember when that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Was going on kel and Marlarie. She just thought he
is so sanctimonious.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I sure do. And it worked out perfectly for us
people who celebrated meat in day.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh yeah with my body.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
My high school baseball teammate, Derek Luchka, who still supplies
beef for your family, Kelly, as I understand right.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Luchka Premier Black Angus. If you're looking for it, I
can hook you up. He's just a local, independent cattle
rancher does his own thing North and Eton high quality
beef products too.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
He's not paying me to say that, Kelly, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I only report the facts here, and that's what and
tell us the reew use that Lutchka beef has gotten
from your two kids, Trevor and Haley.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, you know, the funny thing is that when a
visit from here, one thing I have to have because
it's so different. His beef is such a different quality,
right then the beef you get at.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
The grocery store.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So the kids always want to have that kind of
beef for whether it's steak or taco meat or whatever.
I always have to make.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That just the burger meat alone, you know, tremendous. I
mean groundshuck of ground stirling. There's no additives, no preservatives,
no filler.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
No When you get it straight from the packer.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You do, so, I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's what does it break down to when you buy
an ample amount like four dollars a pound something like that.
I think it's it's pretty it's very affordable and very reasonable. Yeah,
for sure, and you're helping a local cattle rancher. And
if nothing else, I want to provide that narrative to pushback.
I mean, these are the people, are farmers and answers
in the state of Colorado that provide the food that
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goes on your table. And for Marlon Reeese to disparage them,
I mean, it just beyond the pale. But this is
what happens when they live in their ivory towers and
they don't have to worry about anything. They don't have
to consort with, you know, the plebeians out They're the
lower level tiered individuals in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
We don't matter to them. That's why it was so
hilarious yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I believe I went over this SoundBite on my program
Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
But Senator Michael Bennett, all of a sudden, he's all
concerned about rural Colorado voters and trump'supporters were good and
then Medicaid and it's all they got.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Suddenly, now that he's running for governor, right, and he's
trying to garner every vote and seek under every nook
and cranny and corner of Colorado, just to make sure
he's going to feign support and understanding and some kind
of sympathy for those that again he wouldn't deign to
condescend to talk to under normal circumstances. But suddenly, Kelly,
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Senator Bennett is really concerned about people who vote for Trump,
okay and live in out state Colorado.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Do you believe him? No?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, no, maybe, yeah, let's get to that audio, Shelley,
Senator Michael Bennett. And if you think my impression is
off base, I mean, folks, you just got to listen
to the guy.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The funny part is.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He he talks about the Trump tax bill being completely incoherent,
kind of like he gets when he gets mad at
Ted Cruz on the Senate floor.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
There are people they flooded lot of work.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Well, I think we're gonna make sure the American people
understand what's in this bill. It is completely incoherent. The
Republicans can't agree on what they're trying to do with it,
and the cuts to Medicaid are going to be devastating
to rural America and to rural Colorado. I've spent a
ton of time listening to healthcare providers in red parts
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of the state that voted for Donald Trump that are
not engaged in waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
They're engaged in.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Trying to deliver healthcare on his shoe string as it is.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And my point yesterday was Democrats are aoka with waste,
fraud and abuse. They're not willing to cut any of
that out because it might cut Medicaid funding to some
people who need it.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So therefore it's just the cost of doing business.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We're going to have to tolerate all this waste, all
this fraud, all this abuse. Able bodied thirty year old
males who are just sitting at home collecting medicaid, not working,
not contributing to society. No, they can go ahead and
live off the company dime, the government dole. Illegal aliens
who are in this country without documentation to use the
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Left's terminology, that are not contributing to the funds such
as medicane, Medicare, social Security.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They should be able to get social scary card.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They should be able to draw off those benefits that
we have paid into our entire lives as American citizens,
as American taxpayers. That includes legal immigrants as well. That
is who my fight is for on this front. Legal
immigrants who came here the right way, who followed the
procedure and protocols and laws of the United States, who
want to be Americans, who made the effort, did their
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due diligence to do it the right way, they should
be punished. Those who cut the line should be rewarded.
And that's the fair assessment for the kind generous assessment
for those of the who's who cut the line. We
talked about this with Sheriff Steve Reims a little bit
earlier on people who come here illegally, by and large
vast majority. They're coming here illegally for a reason, and
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that reason is because if they tried to come here legally,
they couldn't, And why couldn't they Because they know they'd
be vetted properly and escorted.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Out of our country.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
They have criminal records or histories that might prevent them
from entering the United States legally, so they do it illegally.
What other reason is there other than you don't want
to be inconvenienced and you feel entitled like you have
a right to be here as an illegal, as a
foreign national. You don't. You just don't. And I'm not
going to entertain any arguments to the contrary that say, well,
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these poor, huddled, unwashed masses and we're the land of opportunity,
then come here legally. And if you can't wait your turn,
I'm sorry. I have no sympathy for such people. And
the thing is, you hear this from me, but this
is the vibe and the general consensus of legal immigrants
in this country, people who are first generation Americans, whose
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parents fought to be here. Notice how many Republicans are
represented in our Colorado General Assembly with these types of
people in Florida, with the Cuban Americans who have immigrated
into South Florida and turned Miami Dade County red, because
they know they know the price, the cost of socialism
that they were escaping, They know the promise, the opportunity
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that America provides them, and they know the reward of
being an American citizen. They take that seriously, They hold
that in the highest esteem. Those who would come here illegally,
flaunt that process, flaunt our laws, and are not incentivized
to follow any of our laws, as evidenced by that
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egregious car accident that wasn't an accident, it was vehicular homicide.
A fifteen year old illegal alien should not have been driving,
did not have a license, did not have permission to
use the car. But his family's here illegally, so they're
just going to do whatever the hell they want to do.
And he kills a twenty four year old woman and
has his sentence reduced because Amy Padden, the district attorney
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in the eighteenth formerly where George Brockler John Kellner were
in charge, she comes in, oh, wait a minute, that
might cause this young man to be deported.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Let's read the charges.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Meanwhile, had there been a fifteen year old of any
other background that was a legal status citizen in this country,
you can bet your bottom dollar the book would have
been thrown at that individual, regardless of their ethnic status, background, whatever.
But because they're bending over backwards to accommodate illegal aliens
by any means necessary, she was willing to.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Reduce that sentence.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's hogwash, And that's the kind word for it you
could text into the program. Got plenty of these to
catch up on, and we appreciate you joining as well.
At three three one zero three, a brief announcement here.
This is breaking news Xxxy Athletics suing Colorado for violating
the right to speak truth that men and women are different.
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This is Jennifer Say, the founder, the CEO, who's being
assisted now by Alliance Defending Freedom and thank God literally
for them for ADF ADF has filed suit on behalf
of the apparel company Xxxy Athletic after the state of
Colorado passes a law restricting the brand's ability to refer
to male athletes as customers as male if they identify
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as female. This is all tied into thirteen twelve being
signed into law in Jennifer Say will join me on
Ryan Schuling Live coming up later today at three oh six.
That's just been confirmed, so FYI file that one away.
I'm sure Jennifer will have a lot to say about it.
A dad joke for the day. You're welcome s e
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y that's how you spell it. Let's go to the
texts Ryan, I went out that day, meet out day.
We're talking about Marlon Reese's Day.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Let's celebrate tofu. I want a steak.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
This person says, I went out that day and bought
almost fifty pounds of meat like chicken and pork, not beef,
as I get all of our beef from Nebraska on
my parents' farm.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Is that Adam texting in? He's from Nebraska. Kelly's husband
Colorado beef.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
All right, Lutchka, people get in touch, get to know me,
contact me. Dragon has got my contact info. I will
put you in touch with Derek. Best beef you'll ever have.
Black angus swear to the Lord. Let me see here,
I'm talking about Oh Trump on the energy Okay, thank
you for this. He also announced the executive order to
move quickly on the newer nuclear technologies. Michael's always talking
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about that. I'm a big all of the above energy strategist.
Heidi Ganal campaigned on this in her run for governor,
and I think it was a strong platform. It's one
of the things that I agree with Andrew Yang on
of all people, and that is nuclear is clean, it's efficient,
it's accessible for the masses, it's easier to distribute. There's
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not as much waste product, although it needs to be
taken into account with nuclear fission until we get fusion
plants and power of the sun, that type of thing
that's still a future technology.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
We hope that out there that will happen.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
But the Nimbi crowd of the energy elite on the
left would have you believe we can power our entire
nation on solar and wind and maybe hydro electric that
we can't. Nuclear power, however, could make up that deficit.
But the fear about nuclear stems back to three Mile
Island ladies and gentlemen that happened in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Okay, I was in kindergarten. I'm fifty.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Nuclear power is safe, efficient and effective at powering the nation,
and I am all for building more nuclear power plants
to supplement whatever green energies are out there. And we
can now access oil, coal, natural gas in much cleaner
ways and methods, fracking being among them than we could
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in the past without destroying the surrounding lands and by
using discretion protecting the environment. Ronda Santis has done this
in Florida as governor the Everglades. They're not going to
frack the Everglades. You have to be respond constable stewards
of the environment. I'm a very pro environment Republican myself,
but that doesn't mean we should handcuff ourselves when it
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comes to energy. The other part of that, if you're
truly in favor of a green agenda, John Carey's flying
everywhere on private jets, so is Bernie Sanders AOC, so
is Credit Thunberg, and everybody going to the World Climate
A Line, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But they're against nuclear and they're willing to use.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Modes of transportation that they're trying to prohibit the masses
from using. But in all of the above, strategy needs
to be employed, and it needs to be signed on
to by countries like China and in India. So if
you're going to say, the United States is going to
restrict our emissions and we're going to handcuff our economy
to do so, but we're going to let China and
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India dump filth into the air. We share the same atmosphere,
we live on the same planet. If you're concerned about that,
why do you never hear Credit Thunberg, AOC, Bernie Sanders,
John Carey, Elizabeth Warren, Achim Jeffries.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Anybody m the lost Oh no, not her, not her again?
How dare you?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Why are they never calling out China in India? Why
aren't they protesting in Beijing because they'd be arrested and
sent to the labor camps along with the Wiger Muslims.
But even on international soil, they're not calling out China.
I don't understand that if you were a true dedicated
green left disc green New Deal, you should be hardest
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on China. Yet they're not. Kelly, make that makes sense
for me, if you would please, Why are the Libs
avoiding criticism of China when it comes to clean energy?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
They're allowed to do whatever they want.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It's quite sanctimonious.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
How many coal plants China continues to build on a
monthly basis.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I mean it's it's incredible in India too, with all
their pollution. Yeah, and I mean these are the people
that need to kind of step up to the place.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
If we don't get their buy in, then our efforts
are feud off, I mean, don't.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I'm still in.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Favor of doing what we can to have clean energy
to the degree that we are able, but not at
the expense of our economy, and certainly not if China
and India are running rough shot over the entire planet.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Well, also, they can't shove it down our throats either,
with like the electric car mandates and all of that
that Trump finally renegged upon.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Anyway else, Notice that Kelly's gone from batman Kelly to.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Okay. Sounds like Kennedy now, is it?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
It sounds I don't know that's that's better or worse
the RFK junior version of Kelly.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Okay. I like that evolution.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
We'll be talking more about China, China coming up in
our next segment. That's one of the things I missed
the most about the Orange Man was him calling out
and talking about China.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Sir, why do you call it China virus? It's very
racist because it comes from China.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But Scott Powell, author of Rediscovering America, he'll join us
as the United States continues in this kind of tariff
standoff with Hijinping and the Chinese Communist Empire about our
over reliance on China for twenty key rare earth minerals
and elements and what the end around might be per
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Scott Powell, and again he is the author of Rediscovering America.
How the National Holidays tell an amazing story about who
we are. He'll be coming up in our next segment
here on the situation without Michael Brown, new texts coming
in Ryan new nuclear power plants use.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Old fuel rods.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I think a couple of things that stand in the
way is where do you dispose of the waste product
that nuclear power plants create. You have to have a
safe storage facility for that, and it needs to be
fairly remote away from human populations. The other thing with
regard to oil and exploration for it drilling, we can
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drill for all the crude oil we want. Our refinery
capacity is so limited and bottlenecked in this country.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
We had not built a new refinery in what is
it thirty years maybe more.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You know, the regulations on that building off the coasts
of Louisiana, Florida, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Had become a very cost prohibitive.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So until we had more refinery capacity, our energy costs
won't truly get as low as they could be if
we did increase that time out back after this on
the situation.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
We're very happy that President Trump gave the exemption to
electronic goods, and not just because they want to sell
more to the US it's because they took it as
a sign that Trump was caving into them. And that's
the only way they can win this trade war is
if Trump, who holds all the high cards, decides to
preemptively surrender.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And that's Gordon Shang his analysis on China, and he
is an expert that we refer too often on my
program I Am Sholing Live and joining us now. He
had a recent op ed entitled Trump can Do the
Impossible simultaneously strength in America's financials and its national security
and keying on on the detail on America's over reliance
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on China for twenty key rare earth minerals and elements.
This also extends to the production of microchips, etc. That
we rely on Taiwan for as a bulwark against China.
And joining us now in that discussion. He is the
author of Rediscovering America as well, Scott Powell. Scott, thank
you so much for your time.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Yeah, absolutely, nice to be with you.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Absolutely, And let's start with those twenty key rare earth
minerals and elements. We know that Donald Trump has recently
struck a deal with Ukraine for that type of exploration
and mining of materials that maybe we can't get here
due to environmental restrictions. But your point is that because
we don't get them here, that causes us to seek
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out kind of nar Well, shall we say, like China
for those rare earth minerals that we need. How much
does maybe reliance on Ukraine for those types of materials
offset what we might need from China.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Well, I can't answer that question. I don't know the
scope of the rare earth materials in the Ukraine, but
I can say this just flat out, that we should
be tapping the rare earth minerals in the United States. First,
there is no doubt if we have a political opposition
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to the survival of our country, then I say that
these are the kind of leaders we don't need. We
need leaders who recognize the threats that America faces and
are going to look first and foremost to the resources
that we have in order to combat and deter and
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defeat those threats. So we should be tapping into all
the rare earth mineral opportunities that we have in the
within the United States.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You point out as well that there is the advanced
technology of fracking that has unlocked access to so much
in the form of fossil fuels in the United States
that we didn't have previous access to, and as recently
as maybe twenty thirty years ago, we were over relyingt
on the Middle East as a source for our oil
and now natural gas especially has exploded as a product
(21:24):
here in the United States. Are there similar alert technologies
in your view, Scott, that would allow us to access
these rare earth minerals without The criticism from the left
has always been, well, there's strip mining, it'll cause tremendous
damage to the environment, things that a country like China
doesn't care about.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Well, the heck with that. If it involves the survival
of the United States, we strip mind. We do what
we have to do to survive. If our defense capability
relies on rare earth minerals, we need to tap into those,
and we should first tap the recent versus that we
have here at home. So, you know, the work to
(22:03):
be done by Trump and others is the work of
the Bowie pulpit. The American people will support, uh developed,
you know, the tapping of rare earth, of domestic rare
earth materials. There's no doubt about that. If it's put
if it's framed correctly, that our defense capability and survival
depend upon rare earth materials that we have here at home. Uh,
(22:27):
then uh, we shouldn't be looking overseas for them if
we have them here at home, because it's more reliable
and we we are self you know, we we can
support uh, you know, our our defense needs by our
own resources. That is the ideal and optimum approach to take,
(22:51):
not relying on foreign sourcing for critical materials. It's one
thing if you're relying on foreign sources for uncritical materials.
These are critical materials.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Scott Powell our guest.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You can read more about it his article op ed
entitled Trump can do the impossible simultaneously strength in America's
financials and its national security. I want to focus a
little bit more on the first part of that, Scott,
because you talk about the importance of these in terms
of national security and our defense, but also in terms
of our economy and the cost of goods and doing
(23:25):
business here in the United States. If we were to produce, mine,
and source lithium, cobalt, etc. Here in the United States,
what that would mean for the price, say of a
car battery for an electric vehicle, the price of the
electric vehicle itself, the manufacture of it in the United States,
the ability of the average consumer to purchase such vehicles.
(23:46):
This seems like it would be a win across the
board for everybody, even the environmentalist on the left.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
Well, you know, politics certainly makes strange bedfollows. And you
would think that you would think that Elon Musk who
was a hero because he he really did so much
to uh, you know, to promote you know, non non
hydrocarbon burning fuel fuel cars, that is to say, electric
(24:16):
electric vehicles. Uh, he was a hero because that was
favored by the liberal side. Right. Well, as soon as
you aligned himself with Donald Trump, he became the enemy
and people went after his Tesla dealerships and and uh,
his his cars. You know, it's it's unbelievable how how
(24:38):
politics has become so so warped in our country and
so so divisive. We haven't We have national interests. The
national interests are number one survival that trumps all other
national interests. And you know, the idea that that we
(25:07):
are dependent on foreign sources for critical materials is a
dangerous place to be. It just is, especially if it's
a hostile foreign country like China. China now controls twenty
of the rare earth. Of twenty rare earth materials that
we need in our high tech defense industries are controlled
(25:32):
by China.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Scott, you correctly point out that the US was the
largest producer of these rare earths until the nineteen eighties,
and I mentioned the environmental barriers that then came into
place between then and now. But now under a Trump
administration with Lee Zelden as the head of the Environmental
Protection Agency, how much of this do you believe could
be remedied through executive actions and orders reformation of the
(25:58):
EPA itself, and how much would require an Act of
Congress and able to really assert that these rare earth
minerals could be obtained domestically and that there would not
be the kind of slow walking environmental barriers that we've
seen over these last fifty years.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Well, no, I certainly can't can't assure anything, but I
think that it's necessary to really use the bully pulpit
to explain the stakes, to describe and explain to the
American people why we need to take a new course
(26:36):
of action. And of course, you know we're all environmentalists.
You don't want to deface nature unnecessarily. So by all means,
best mining practices should be used. But many of these
materials are in very remote places that are not really
(26:57):
visited the public. I mean, we're certainly not going to
do rare earth mining in national parks. But there's twenty
eight percent of the land mass in America, including Alaska,
is owned by the federal government. That's a huge swath
of land, and much of it is in the western
(27:17):
part of the United States, where there are more there
there are probably more rare earth materials there than say
on the eastern Eastern Seaboard area. In the agricultural states.
You know, Wyoming is a great example of a state
(27:38):
that increasingly important because of its They've discovered massive amounts
of oil in Wyoming, and so I would hope that
there would be support for it by by the states.
These many of these states tend to be more i
(27:58):
would say, more conservative, recognizing that we have national interests
that need to be protected and that you know, that
requires some contribution from the states. So I'm an optimist,
I really am. If if people are if it's explained
clearly to people and it's not an it's not a
(28:21):
hard story to understand, and as a matter of fact,
as the story is explained, I would I would reckon
that there will be many Americans that say, why did
you people in government allow this to happen to us?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And the politics get in the way of that for sure.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Yeah, this this, this is traitorous behavior. Almost that you
would that you you, you would become dependent on your
enemy that is communist China for the very necessary elements
for your military. It's it's it's that that's a horrible
position to be in, and yet that's sort of where
(28:59):
we are. So in no time to lose. We need
to get on it. And Donald Trump, I think, is
he's got a lot in his plate, but this is
a very important area.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
You can drill down on the details.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Pun intended at townhall dot com, where the op ed
is entitled Trump can do the impossible simultaneously strength in
America's financials and its national security. Scott Powell, our guest
and the writer of that op ed. Scott, always appreciate
your insights and thank you for your time today.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Absolutely it's a player.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Scott Powell joining us one final timeout will send you
into the rest of your Wednesday after these words on
the situation without Michael Brown. I'm shuling filling in yesterday
and today and the situation without Michael Brown. John Caldera
Independence Institute will be in tomorrow and Friday, and I'm
(29:52):
looking forward to that along with Dragon and Kelly and
all of you here on six point thirty. K how
get to your text in just a moment, just real briefly.
I'm a big baseball nerd. Kelly knows this, and we're
making history. Not the right kind, but we're making history
here in Denver with our poor Colorado Rockies. Now, this
really does resemble the Cleveland known as the Indians in
(30:16):
the film Major League, and we need some version of
Charlie Sheen to save the day. Nine and forty six.
That is the current record of the Rockies. They lost
in heartbreaking fashion last night at Wrigley Field against the Cubs.
I was watching this game, Michael Bush check swing should
have been called a strike, wasn't.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
The TV guys lost it. Don't blame them.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He goes on to single in a run and the
Cubbies win an extra innings. The historical precedence of this
nine and forty six modern baseball history, that's the worst
through fifty five games. The modern baseball history started in
the year nineteen hundred. My great grandfather, Martin James Schuling,
was eight years old, the father of my grandfather who
(31:02):
served in World War Two. My great grandfather was in
World War One. You have to go back a little
bit further in the history of baseball into the eighteen
nineties to find teams that are comparable. And one of
those the eighteen ninety five Louisville Colonels, not the Kentucky Colonels,
not the colonel in terms of Kentucky fried chicken, but
(31:22):
they were fried and at this point in the season,
through fifty five games, the Colonels were one game worse
at eight and forty seven compared to the Rockies at
nine and forty six. The eighteen ninety nine Cleveland Spiders, well,
through fifty five games they were ten and forty five.
They were one game better. But this is the history
(31:45):
that the Colorado Rockies are competing with. Now they're on
the road to wrap up that series, I believe in
Chicago against the Cubs tonight, Tanner Gordon on the mound
for the Rockies against Matthew Boyd, former Detroit Tiger left
hander for the Cubs. So stay tuned for more from
the Rockies. We hope they turn a winning streak around
(32:05):
at some point. You can hear it all over an
eight to fifty KOA. You know, I talked to Jerry
Shemil not long ago, one of the voices along with
Jack Corgan of the Rockies, and just how difficult it
must be as a broadcaster because you got to tell
the story and you don't want to lie to your audience.
But people know right so you don't have to keep
beating over the head with it about the historical nature
in a bad way of this season. But you tell
(32:27):
the story, lay the facts out as they are, you
say the record, and I don't know, you look for
other stories to tell. This is where the challenge comes in.
It was Jack Buck, Joe's father who talked about you.
It's easy to call a winning game or you know,
a game winning walk off home run for a winning team,
but it's these times that really challenge a baseball broadcaster.
(32:48):
You know, can you tell the story in an interesting
way for a team that just can't seem.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
To shoot straight?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And that's our hometown, Colorado Rockies go to the text
to close things out at.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Three three one zero three here here is this.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think we don't just source our own rare earth
minerals for our needs. We need to make a goal
to find enough to be the source for other nations
export them. Yeah, become a net exporter of rare earth minerals.
I like this thinking we want to be a source
for our allies, that we become the number one exporter
of energy in the world. Having dominance in those two
resources would give us a great economy and help us
(33:21):
stabilize our allies and make us so much safer. I
love this conversation, sor I couldn't work in a sarcastic comment.
Those are required on the situation. Michael Brown's so shame
shame for that, but great points that you made slid
time this time, don't do it again. Michael be mad
on Monday, and I've seen him angry. You don't want
to see him angry. Kind of like incredible Hulk type stuff. Ryan,
(33:42):
I talked to a friend who lived near Three Mile
Island when the news was all about the accident in
the New York area. He wondered what I was talking about.
The local news wasn't saying anything about it. Now, remember
that's nineteen seventy nine. See basically had four sources of
televised news CBS, ABC, NBC, and PBS. But three Mile Island.
I mean, that was the last disaster on American soil.
(34:04):
There was the Fukushima incident in Japan, not an earthquake though,
so it wasn't anything well, and then Chernobyl Chernobyl in
the Soviet Union strengths. But these have been many decades now.
It's so much safer to produce and utilize nuclear energy now.
I don't understand the fear factor associated with it or
(34:25):
the NIMBI factor.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Not in my backyard.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You know, I would gladly welcome a nuclear power plant
here in Colorado. Have us be the source, the net
exporter for energy. You know, a lot of water is
exported from the Rocky Mountains and the snowpack that derives
from that to our neighboring desert states like Arizona. If
we had nuclear power here in Colorado, I think that
should be something that's unifying and bipartisan that those who
(34:50):
love the environment should get behind, because we're not going
to power America on solar, wind and hydroelectric. That's just
not realistic and it's not going to happen. It is
realistic to expect on Caldera. He'll be here tomorrow on Friday.
BROWDI back on Monday. Tune in for me later on
today two to four Here on six point thirty k
o
Speaker 7 (35:07):
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