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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Morning, John, Hey, what's your pick? Orion chicks, Bulkan chicks? Chicks?
Inquiring minds want to know Orion chicks? Is that even
a question? The Klingons clingon chicks when I was younger,
(00:21):
I don't know if I could handle the Uh yeah,
one of the physical damage as an older man at
this point. Now, Trekkies get this and non trekies, you
people need to get a life. Is it? Is it
that well known that I'm a treky old school and
I'm none of this touchy feely new school tracks. Don't
(00:44):
you have the Enterprise D behind you right now? Uh? No,
well I do in my office. Okay, actually, but I
prefer the Enterprise original. The D somebody gave me when
I turned fifty was ten years years ago. Yeah, so
in some of my videos you'll you'll see the D
(01:05):
behind me. But no, the classic, the Classic Constitution class
that nobody A B no A no, ABC, no no
no no, the original, the og Trek, Spock and Kirk.
Uh yeah, that's that's track back back when it was
politically incorrect. It was, you know, screw the prime directive,
(01:28):
set bazers on kill and get me a green woman
to bed. You know this is this is the way
Trek was meant to be watched? Am I? Am I
wrong on any of this? You pretty good gentlemen. No?
And how is it that this stuff is not taught
in schools these days? So I tried to get my
(01:51):
my daughter to watch one of the old star treks
with me, and you know, with how to put it,
with new techniques and special effects, everything looks so real,
But back then it looked terrible. In nineteen sixty six,
(02:14):
when they were starting to do this, my daughter's like,
my god, why why are these people running around in
their pajamas? They're not pajamas, they're star Fleet uniforms, but
they're falling off their shoulders. And it's not made well.
And it's all these weird colors. And why are the
sets so cheesy? It's not a set, good god, it
(02:38):
is a starship, a Federation starship. Why are they in
those weird all right? It's it's dated. I remember my
old man telling me when he used to when he
used to watch or listened to radio shows, those radio
(02:58):
shows were real to him. You know who knows the
shadow knows because your mind would fill in all the blanks,
those of us, those of us who watched the original
Star Trek or the old corny corny Doctor Who's and
all the rest your mind could kind of fill in
(03:19):
those blanks of bad sci fi special effects. It just did.
And now as moviegoers were spoiled by all this incredible,
incredible stuff, if that makes If that makes sense to you.
(03:40):
So if you're an old guy, the original Star Trek
you know was real to you. When you were a kid,
you would know young' and kids wow kids anyway, So
(04:06):
wasn't it That was definitely the case with with Kirk?
He how to put it, He had a sex addiction.
But back then you could have a sex addiction and
it would be okay. So I got a talk back
here from or a text by the way, feel free
to text where's this one? I'm trying to find it. Oh,
(04:35):
speaking of aliens, can you imagine how aggressive the multicultural
cultists must be in the twenty fourth century? Earth would
be inundated with green slave girl refugees they are importing
by the billions. They're literally not human, they're not white,
they're female, they're slaves. It's like a liberal's pipe dream
(04:57):
of protected status points. So that's pretty good. Getting back
to our getting back to our topic of house built
thirteen oh nine, which means that you and I pay
for all the cosmetic surgery, all the psychotherapy, all the
(05:18):
incredible costs for someone who wants to transition. So if
you I identify as a guy with hair, does that work? No?
About this caller, John? Don't you also identify as a
very fit man with well defined abs. There are surgeons
(05:38):
that can create six pack abs for men. Oh? I
like that? How about this one, John, I identify as
a wealthy person. Therefore the state of Colorado should add
millions of dollars to my bank account. I also identify
myself as an entity exempt from all taxation and fees.
(06:00):
I like that? Hmm, John, How is the state getting
around the federal regulations on testosterone? Testosterone is also a
Schedule three controlled substance under the Controlled Substances Act. I
did not know this, meaning it has a potential for abuse,
(06:21):
but also has accepted medical uses. This classification requires a
prescription for legal use and imposes certain regulations on its
distribution and prescribing. Chain pharmacies won't be able to pull
off sidestepping this regulation, says Rochelle. Rochelle give me a call.
(06:44):
I'd love to find out more about this. Three oh
three seven one three eight, two five five. Part of
this new law says that testosterone prescriptions cannot be put
into the cannot be put into the registry. They cannot
(07:06):
be tracked. You cannot be tracked. What does that mean?
It means that it means that if you're transitioning and
you're using testosterone, you get to do it with privacy.
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The rest of us don't get privacy. Does that Does
that mean anything to you? Three oh three seven one
three eight two five five seven one three talk. This
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is this is a pretty pretty wild thing. Why in
the world don't you get free plastic surgery, But if
you're transitioning, you get it. You get it for free.
Don't you deserve it? The left believes in parody. The
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left believes in justice. The left believes in equality, no
matter how much it gets forced. So one person who
wants flat stick surgery for reasons that satisfy them get
it covered. Other people don't. Someone explained to me the
(08:37):
equity there. Here's here's what I mean. Because I want
eye surgery, I want my eyelids done. I want an
eye job, I want an eye job, and I'm transitioning,
this law requires that it be covered by my insurance.
(09:01):
But if I want this for another reason, because it
just makes me feel good and makes me feel like
like that's the body I should be in, I don't
get it covered. So I'm really having a struggle here.
If I feel like I should be a woman, then
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I can get my eye job covered. If I want
my eye job because I feel like I'm much more
attractive than I really am, that my body doesn't match
my self identity, it does not. So as long as
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it's something about gender, it gets paid. If it's about
anything else, it doesn't get paid. How is that equitable?
They would never They would could never pass a bill
requiring insurance companies to cover plastic surgery. Why because our
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insurance costs and Medicaid costs would go skyrocketing. Keep in mind,
something like one in four Coloradden's now are on Medicaid.
Now they might not realize they're on Medicaid, but Medicaid
pays for their insurance if they buy their insurance off
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of the public exchange. So anybody who wants this can
get it, but only if they feel like they're in
the wrong body. By gender. If you're in the wrong
body by any other measure, you're not. Now I'm definitely
(10:52):
in the wrong body because I have no hair, But
in my heart, I identify as somebody with a big
maine of hair. I identify as someone who is twenty
years younger than my biological age. So biologically I'm forty,
(11:19):
or biologically i'm sixty, but I identify as forty. That
doesn't work. If I am biologically male, but I identify
as female, that does work. And you do, your listener,
get to pay for my my eyelid job, or my
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chinen job, or any other plastic surgery, including my breast augmentation.
They're I don't care how protrans you are. This is
ridiculously wrong, isn't it? Isn't it? Somebody tell me otherwise?
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Three oh three seven one three eight two five five?
How else could you exploit this? How else could you
exploit this? And we wonder why it's impossible for people
(12:28):
to live in Colorado. We wonder why it's so expensive
in Colorado. It's this stuff. How about this call or
this text?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
John?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Doesn't your lack of hair harm your gender identity of
being a man? Well, that's an interesting point. After all,
hair is a product of testosterone. That's right, Those of
us who are bald have higher testostere Sadly, because we're bald,
(13:04):
we'll never be able to use our testosterone because checksto't
like bald guys. But this one, John is correct with
criteria for these policies. There are no blood tests, there
are no X rays, there are no MRIs. It's all
a state of mind or mental diagnosis, which is allowing
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for cutting and removing and adopting or adding other people's organs.
No other procedure criteria allows for this butchery due to
a mental diagnostic. So here's this fascinating thing when when
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you say something doesn't work and you don't believe in
certain aspects of climate change, you're a science denier. When
you say that men can't have babies somehow, you're not
following the science. So there is a group of researchers
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who are trying to show that in people's brains, different
parts of their brains light up, and folks who are
trans compared to normal folks, and therefore there is this
biological difference that they're trying. They're trying to get rid
of this idea that trans is not biological. Now, for
(14:38):
those of us who are symbol who are ridiculously ignorant,
we believe the chromosomes prove it. Of blood tests proves it.
You either have x Y chromosomes or you have xx chromosomes.
There's really nothing in between. Oh, there is an occasional
abnormality or hermaphrodite, but that's about it. So the pro
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trans world is desperately trying to find science to back
up their claim that this is not just a mental issue.
Keep in mind, because if it is something scientific, there
could be a cure. This was one of the debates
(15:28):
that happened in the gay rights community. Is being gay
a choice? If it's not a choice, is it somehow genetic? Now,
if it is genetic, does that mean there's a quote
(15:50):
cure that with crisper technology you can make gay guys straight.
If there is a genetic component to being transgender, does
that mean it can be quote fixed? It could be changed? Now, personally,
(16:16):
I don't believe most people who are homosexual have a
choice in the matter. We've got too many friends and
family who are gay, and it's it's not a decision,
it's it's who they are. Why is it that way?
I don't know, And to be honest, I don't care.
You might try to Jesus the gay out of somebody.
(16:36):
I don't think that that works. Give me your thoughts
on this one three h three seven, one three eight
two five five seven to one three talk. It's it
is pretty odd, how much this is, how much this
unreal stuff is happening. How in the world, How in
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the world did we get here? Could you imagine going
back just ten years ago, just ten years ago, and saying, Hey,
in a few years, you're going to have to call
men women and women men if that's what they want,
and you're going to have to pay for their sex
change operations and all their cosmetic surgery, and all of
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their therapy appointments, all their supplies. It will now become
a communal good and you'll have to pay for it.
Anybody said that even a decade ago, you would have
laughed or tuck us off. It would be unreal, it
(17:52):
would be ridiculous, science fiction fantasy. Yet here we are,
and we're paying now for other people's cosmetic surgeries. Wow,
(18:15):
how was this one? So from the text line, so
transition surgery is covered in Colorado. How about if a
person transitioned wants to transition back, will those surgeries be covered?
Why wouldn't they be covered. They they'd have to be covered.
(18:41):
They'd have to be covered. I like this text. It's
just a substitute. That would be me. Substitute, always a bridesmaid,
never a bribe. This new law means teenage girls in
Colorado can make a lot of money selling their untraceable
(19:04):
testosterone prescriptions. I agree, there are your thoughts about this one.
I'm just crazy about it. It's one thing that we
now have speech control laws, but now we've got to
pay for other people's plastic surgery.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Hey, guys, I'm so grateful for this conversation this morning.
I was against this bill, but now I'm rethinking it.
I mean, even my cat here agrees. Thinking about having
two missus redbeards in the community, I think that's a
plus plus.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
What do you think, Missus Redbeard? Missus red Beard. Oh,
it's just a disgusting thought. I'm seeing a woman with
a red beard. Hey, I'm John KELDERA give me a call.
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
So there were two that I'm thinking of off the top,
of my head bills that are part of the transagenda here.
(20:07):
And it's really frustrating for me on this, on this issue,
and it angers me because of the speech control part
of this we're talking about of course now in Colorado,
if you want a transition, other people get to get
the privilege of paying for you to do your transitioning
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all the costs, all the plastic surgery, the boob jobs,
the skin tightening, the eye jobs, the physical therapy, the
mental therapy, the psychotherapy, the supplies, the testosterone. Because you
think you're a woman, other people now get to pay
(20:55):
for your dysphoria. That's a danger. The larger danger is
hou spilled. What was it thirteen twenty six I think
it was, which took away parental rights if a kid
thinks he is a her, and it makes misgendering and
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dead naming an act of legal discrimination which can be
punished as as a crime, as a civil punishment. You
can go and say this is a this is discrimination.
What does that mean? It means that your your speech
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is no longer your own. I find that to be
even more dangerous than this, this new lawsing we've got
to pay for other people's plastic surgery. First Amendment says
government cannot tell us what to say or what not
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to say. And then Colorado flies in the face of
that and says, if a man wants you to address
him as her, legally you have to. Legally you have to.
How insane and unconstitutional is that? That's the real danger.
(22:34):
That's why having these pronouns on your email address and
your business cards is so dangerous. It's speech control. Colorado
now has speech control. Why is speech control so important?
Because if you can, if you can control how somebody
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uses words, you end up controlling the way they think.
That's why the left is so good at this. It's
why they're so good at semantic warfare. It's not racial discrimination, no, no, no,
we call it affirmative action. Who could be against affirmative action? No.
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And it's not self manufactured guns somebody making a gun
in their own home. No. No, it's a quote ghost gun.
It's not a semi automatic, it's a it's an assault rifle,
an assault weapon. By using these terms, you load the argument.
(23:50):
It must have been twenty years ago that my hometown,
a boulder outlawed owning a dog. Can't own a dog,
can't own a cat, can't own a goldfish. You cannot
be a pet owner a pet guardian. That's right. They
changed all the rule laws and ordinances and struck the
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word pet owner and changed it to pet guardian. Why
because somebody like our first gentleman, wants to change the
way you think. Now, we all laughed at this twenty
years ago, but today you have a conversation even with
my kids, and they'll go, oh, when they see a dog, Oh,
who's your guardian? What? Who's that dog's guardian? The dog
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doesn't have a guardian, it has an owner. The idea
of a guardian is you don't own what you are guarding.
That's what's so different about it. Does that make any
sense to you. I'm just so frustrated that we cannot
have a reasonable conversation about this issue. Here's the graph.
(25:08):
Here's why we can't have that conversation. It goes back
to the intolerance during debates. It goes something like this.
On issues like the trans movement, you cannot have an
open dialogue about it because if you do, you are
either ignorant or you are hateful, or some combination of
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the two. You can almost graph it out. It's an
inverse relationship. You're either stupid or you're mean. You're either
ignorant or you're a racist. It's not that you're wrong.
(25:53):
It's not that we can beat you on the technicalities.
It's not something that we can look at the logic
of a situation. You want to argue with somebody about
the trans movement, you are either ignorant or you're a hater.
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And that's the logic that is used. That is the
argument that is always used against us. Don't you agree?
How many times when you get into this discussion have
you been called either stupid or mean because you refuse
to use their terms. You refuse to call a man
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a woman. Now, I want to be really clear about that.
I don't I don't take away that guy's right to
identify as a woman. I don't take away his right
to identify as a kumquat. I don't care. You do you, man?
You do you, and you respect me for doing me.
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You think you're a she, more power to you. You
just knock yourself out, have yourself a great old time.
But you have to then respect my right to see
the world the way I see the world. I cannot
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call you a she why because that would be a lie.
I understand you want me to call you as she,
and sometimes I'll do this. My son thinks he's a
race car. He is Lightning McQueen from the Disney Pixar
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movie Cars. I'm Tomater if you know the characters, and
we both go along with that. He doesn't have shoes,
he calls his shoes wheels. He doesn't drink water, he
calls a gasoline. We don't go to the doctor, we
go to the mechanic. And I enjoy this farce with him.
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My son has down syndrome, and mentally he's probably around
six years old, much like his old man, and we
have fun with that. But I hate to tell you this.
I don't actually think he's a race car. I mean,
he's fast, faster than me, but I don't think my
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son is actually a race car, even though he calls
himself a race car. I go along with it because
it's fun and it's okay by me. But if I
had to imagine, if there was a law that says,
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if if a person identifies as a race cars, you
must call him a race car, otherwise you are committing
an act of discrimination. Well that's now the Long, Colorado. No,
I'm not belittling those people who think they were born
in the wrong body. I get it. I've known people
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who are. But that doesn't mean I have to lie publicly.
That's what I find much more dangerous than these these
ideas that We've got to pay for your plastic surgery.
That's bad, that's dangerous. That's going to bankrupt us. But
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it's not morally wrong. It's ethically wrong telling me I've
got to look at the world and say it is
what it obviously is not. That's morally wrong, that's repugnant.
That's forced speech. I see a guy an address, and
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by law, I have to refer to him as her,
otherwise I will be misgendering, which is now an act
of discrimination. Now, there was a time when discrimination was
a good thing. People had discriminating tastes for the highly
(30:38):
discriminating consumer of wine. You enjoy this. Now we have
a civil rights Commission and they will go after you
if you do something that is a discrimination. Using the
wrong pronoun is now legal discrimination in Colorado. But what
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if I can prove scientifically that that person who I'm
supposed to call she is in fact biologically a he?
What if I could show his chromosomes or x Y,
and therefore, by forcing me to call this man she,
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you are forcing me to lie. What is it like
for those people, in order to keep their jobs, have
to go along with this clap trap. They've got to
in order to put food on the table, call their
coworker she when he's he. Otherwise they get sent to HR,
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they get fired, they lose their job, and they've got
to come home and tell their kids that the truth matters,
that you shouldn't lie. But in order to keep my
job to feed you, I have to lie. Does that
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make sense? What does that do to a person's soul?
What does it do to their mind? Now? I've got
such sympathy for people who are raised to talitarian regimes
in North Korea, And you've got to say that this
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guy is the dear leader, and you've got to lie
otherwise you go to jail. Otherwise you go to the gulag.
Otherwise your family disappears. So you're forced to lie into
talitarian regimes, and you got to do it publicly, otherwise
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you're in trouble. That's what we have here in Colorado.
Now you must deny the facts. The objective truth and
call a man a woman. Otherwise you will be brought
up on charges of discrimination and punished for telling the truth.
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That should scare us all. Give me three seven one,
three eight two five five Send me a text. I'm
John Caldera in for the Big Man. Keep it right
here six point thirty k How John?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
If they would just give good mental health care to
adolescents and teenagers, we wouldn't have this problem because most
children are capable of being counseled to understand that it's
a transition period in their life and they aren't meant
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to change, They're meant to adjust to the change.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Being a teenager is tough, it's tougher now. But what
a sign of an indulgent society, as a society that
lives in excess, when instead of worrying about how we're
going to get enough food to eat, we worry about
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gender dysphoria. Do you think people were worried about gender
dysphoria during the Depression? Do you think as Europe was
being ravaged by Nazis people were worried? You know, I
don't feel like my body matches my mind. No, No,
these are such incredible, incredible problems caused by the excess
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the wealth that capitalism has given us. These were not
problems before. Now they're problems. I don't know how to
handle kids who are going through this confusion. I feel very,
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very sorry for them. I believe they're being preyed upon
the idea that if you don't feel one hundred percent
comfortable in your own body, you're obviously trans and therefore
you need all this treatment. How difficult, how difficult it
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must be to live in this world growing up? How
about this from the text line, John, I know doctors
who won't let women under thirty years old who are
adamant that they quote don't want kids getting their tubes
tied because they might changchange their mind. I get that.
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Most writer right, Most surgeons won't allow won't also do
breast implants for teenage girls under eighteen years old for
multiple reasons, including that their bodies are still developing. Yet
we have doctors mutilating the sex organs for kids under eighteen.
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Why the double standard? And it's not just mutilating sex organs,
it's removing breasts or adding breasts, cosmetic surgery, face toial, reconstructive,
bone reconstructive surgery, rhinoplasty, so many things that that will
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ruin people in the future, including a lot of hormonal
changes that will do real damage to these kids. How
is this not child abuse? I don't know. But now
not only do we have to pay for it under
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the new law, we're paying for other people's transitions. We've
got to use the words they demand,
Morning, John, Hey, what's your pick? Orion chicks, Bulkan chicks? Chicks?
Inquiring minds want to know Orion chicks? Is that even
a question? The Klingons clingon chicks when I was younger,
(00:21):
I don't know if I could handle the Uh yeah,
one of the physical damage as an older man at
this point. Now, Trekkies get this and non trekies, you
people need to get a life. Is it? Is it
that well known that I'm a treky old school and
I'm none of this touchy feely new school tracks. Don't
(00:44):
you have the Enterprise D behind you right now? Uh? No,
well I do in my office. Okay, actually, but I
prefer the Enterprise original. The D somebody gave me when
I turned fifty was ten years years ago. Yeah, so
in some of my videos you'll you'll see the D
(01:05):
behind me. But no, the classic, the Classic Constitution class
that nobody A B no A no, ABC, no no
no no, the original, the og Trek, Spock and Kirk.
Uh yeah, that's that's track back back when it was
politically incorrect. It was, you know, screw the prime directive,
(01:28):
set bazers on kill and get me a green woman
to bed. You know this is this is the way
Trek was meant to be watched? Am I? Am I
wrong on any of this? You pretty good gentlemen. No?
And how is it that this stuff is not taught
in schools these days? So I tried to get my
(01:51):
my daughter to watch one of the old star treks
with me, and you know, with how to put it,
with new techniques and special effects, everything looks so real,
But back then it looked terrible. In nineteen sixty six,
(02:14):
when they were starting to do this, my daughter's like,
my god, why why are these people running around in
their pajamas? They're not pajamas, they're star Fleet uniforms, but
they're falling off their shoulders. And it's not made well.
And it's all these weird colors. And why are the
sets so cheesy? It's not a set, good god, it
(02:38):
is a starship, a Federation starship. Why are they in
those weird all right? It's it's dated. I remember my
old man telling me when he used to when he
used to watch or listened to radio shows, those radio
(02:58):
shows were real to him. You know who knows the
shadow knows because your mind would fill in all the blanks,
those of us, those of us who watched the original
Star Trek or the old corny corny Doctor Who's and
all the rest your mind could kind of fill in
(03:19):
those blanks of bad sci fi special effects. It just did.
And now as moviegoers were spoiled by all this incredible,
incredible stuff, if that makes If that makes sense to you.
(03:40):
So if you're an old guy, the original Star Trek
you know was real to you. When you were a kid,
you would know young' and kids wow kids anyway, So
(04:06):
wasn't it That was definitely the case with with Kirk?
He how to put it, He had a sex addiction.
But back then you could have a sex addiction and
it would be okay. So I got a talk back
here from or a text by the way, feel free
to text where's this one? I'm trying to find it. Oh,
(04:35):
speaking of aliens, can you imagine how aggressive the multicultural
cultists must be in the twenty fourth century? Earth would
be inundated with green slave girl refugees they are importing
by the billions. They're literally not human, they're not white,
they're female, they're slaves. It's like a liberal's pipe dream
(04:57):
of protected status points. So that's pretty good. Getting back
to our getting back to our topic of house built
thirteen oh nine, which means that you and I pay
for all the cosmetic surgery, all the psychotherapy, all the
(05:18):
incredible costs for someone who wants to transition. So if
you I identify as a guy with hair, does that work? No?
About this caller, John? Don't you also identify as a
very fit man with well defined abs. There are surgeons
(05:38):
that can create six pack abs for men. Oh? I
like that? How about this one, John, I identify as
a wealthy person. Therefore the state of Colorado should add
millions of dollars to my bank account. I also identify
myself as an entity exempt from all taxation and fees.
(06:00):
I like that? Hmm, John, How is the state getting
around the federal regulations on testosterone? Testosterone is also a
Schedule three controlled substance under the Controlled Substances Act. I
did not know this, meaning it has a potential for abuse,
(06:21):
but also has accepted medical uses. This classification requires a
prescription for legal use and imposes certain regulations on its
distribution and prescribing. Chain pharmacies won't be able to pull
off sidestepping this regulation, says Rochelle. Rochelle give me a call.
(06:44):
I'd love to find out more about this. Three oh
three seven one three eight, two five five. Part of
this new law says that testosterone prescriptions cannot be put
into the cannot be put into the registry. They cannot
(07:06):
be tracked. You cannot be tracked. What does that mean?
It means that it means that if you're transitioning and
you're using testosterone, you get to do it with privacy.
(07:28):
The rest of us don't get privacy. Does that Does
that mean anything to you? Three oh three seven one
three eight two five five seven one three talk. This
(07:49):
is this is a pretty pretty wild thing. Why in
the world don't you get free plastic surgery, But if
you're transitioning, you get it. You get it for free.
Don't you deserve it? The left believes in parody. The
(08:12):
left believes in justice. The left believes in equality, no
matter how much it gets forced. So one person who
wants flat stick surgery for reasons that satisfy them get
it covered. Other people don't. Someone explained to me the
(08:37):
equity there. Here's here's what I mean. Because I want
eye surgery, I want my eyelids done. I want an
eye job, I want an eye job, and I'm transitioning,
this law requires that it be covered by my insurance.
(09:01):
But if I want this for another reason, because it
just makes me feel good and makes me feel like
like that's the body I should be in, I don't
get it covered. So I'm really having a struggle here.
If I feel like I should be a woman, then
(09:25):
I can get my eye job covered. If I want
my eye job because I feel like I'm much more
attractive than I really am, that my body doesn't match
my self identity, it does not. So as long as
(09:45):
it's something about gender, it gets paid. If it's about
anything else, it doesn't get paid. How is that equitable?
They would never They would could never pass a bill
requiring insurance companies to cover plastic surgery. Why because our
(10:08):
insurance costs and Medicaid costs would go skyrocketing. Keep in mind,
something like one in four Coloradden's now are on Medicaid.
Now they might not realize they're on Medicaid, but Medicaid
pays for their insurance if they buy their insurance off
(10:30):
of the public exchange. So anybody who wants this can
get it, but only if they feel like they're in
the wrong body. By gender. If you're in the wrong
body by any other measure, you're not. Now I'm definitely
(10:52):
in the wrong body because I have no hair, But
in my heart, I identify as somebody with a big
maine of hair. I identify as someone who is twenty
years younger than my biological age. So biologically I'm forty,
(11:19):
or biologically i'm sixty, but I identify as forty. That
doesn't work. If I am biologically male, but I identify
as female, that does work. And you do, your listener,
get to pay for my my eyelid job, or my
(11:41):
chinen job, or any other plastic surgery, including my breast augmentation.
They're I don't care how protrans you are. This is
ridiculously wrong, isn't it? Isn't it? Somebody tell me otherwise?
(12:07):
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five?
How else could you exploit this? How else could you
exploit this? And we wonder why it's impossible for people
(12:28):
to live in Colorado. We wonder why it's so expensive
in Colorado. It's this stuff. How about this call or
this text?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
John?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Doesn't your lack of hair harm your gender identity of
being a man? Well, that's an interesting point. After all,
hair is a product of testosterone. That's right, Those of
us who are bald have higher testostere Sadly, because we're bald,
(13:04):
we'll never be able to use our testosterone because checksto't
like bald guys. But this one, John is correct with
criteria for these policies. There are no blood tests, there
are no X rays, there are no MRIs. It's all
a state of mind or mental diagnosis, which is allowing
(13:26):
for cutting and removing and adopting or adding other people's organs.
No other procedure criteria allows for this butchery due to
a mental diagnostic. So here's this fascinating thing when when
(13:50):
you say something doesn't work and you don't believe in
certain aspects of climate change, you're a science denier. When
you say that men can't have babies somehow, you're not
following the science. So there is a group of researchers
(14:11):
who are trying to show that in people's brains, different
parts of their brains light up, and folks who are
trans compared to normal folks, and therefore there is this
biological difference that they're trying. They're trying to get rid
of this idea that trans is not biological. Now, for
(14:38):
those of us who are symbol who are ridiculously ignorant,
we believe the chromosomes prove it. Of blood tests proves it.
You either have x Y chromosomes or you have xx chromosomes.
There's really nothing in between. Oh, there is an occasional
abnormality or hermaphrodite, but that's about it. So the pro
(15:05):
trans world is desperately trying to find science to back
up their claim that this is not just a mental issue.
Keep in mind, because if it is something scientific, there
could be a cure. This was one of the debates
(15:28):
that happened in the gay rights community. Is being gay
a choice? If it's not a choice, is it somehow genetic? Now,
if it is genetic, does that mean there's a quote
(15:50):
cure that with crisper technology you can make gay guys straight.
If there is a genetic component to being transgender, does
that mean it can be quote fixed? It could be changed? Now, personally,
(16:16):
I don't believe most people who are homosexual have a
choice in the matter. We've got too many friends and
family who are gay, and it's it's not a decision,
it's it's who they are. Why is it that way?
I don't know, And to be honest, I don't care.
You might try to Jesus the gay out of somebody.
(16:36):
I don't think that that works. Give me your thoughts
on this one three h three seven, one three eight
two five five seven to one three talk. It's it
is pretty odd, how much this is, how much this
unreal stuff is happening. How in the world, How in
(17:04):
the world did we get here? Could you imagine going
back just ten years ago, just ten years ago, and saying, Hey,
in a few years, you're going to have to call
men women and women men if that's what they want,
and you're going to have to pay for their sex
change operations and all their cosmetic surgery, and all of
(17:29):
their therapy appointments, all their supplies. It will now become
a communal good and you'll have to pay for it.
Anybody said that even a decade ago, you would have
laughed or tuck us off. It would be unreal, it
(17:52):
would be ridiculous, science fiction fantasy. Yet here we are,
and we're paying now for other people's cosmetic surgeries. Wow,
(18:15):
how was this one? So from the text line, so
transition surgery is covered in Colorado. How about if a
person transitioned wants to transition back, will those surgeries be covered?
Why wouldn't they be covered. They they'd have to be covered.
(18:41):
They'd have to be covered. I like this text. It's
just a substitute. That would be me. Substitute, always a bridesmaid,
never a bribe. This new law means teenage girls in
Colorado can make a lot of money selling their untraceable
(19:04):
testosterone prescriptions. I agree, there are your thoughts about this one.
I'm just crazy about it. It's one thing that we
now have speech control laws, but now we've got to
pay for other people's plastic surgery.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Hey, guys, I'm so grateful for this conversation this morning.
I was against this bill, but now I'm rethinking it.
I mean, even my cat here agrees. Thinking about having
two missus redbeards in the community, I think that's a
plus plus.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
What do you think, Missus Redbeard? Missus red Beard. Oh,
it's just a disgusting thought. I'm seeing a woman with
a red beard. Hey, I'm John KELDERA give me a call.
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
So there were two that I'm thinking of off the top,
of my head bills that are part of the transagenda here.
(20:07):
And it's really frustrating for me on this, on this issue,
and it angers me because of the speech control part
of this we're talking about of course now in Colorado,
if you want a transition, other people get to get
the privilege of paying for you to do your transitioning
(20:32):
all the costs, all the plastic surgery, the boob jobs,
the skin tightening, the eye jobs, the physical therapy, the
mental therapy, the psychotherapy, the supplies, the testosterone. Because you
think you're a woman, other people now get to pay
(20:55):
for your dysphoria. That's a danger. The larger danger is
hou spilled. What was it thirteen twenty six I think
it was, which took away parental rights if a kid
thinks he is a her, and it makes misgendering and
(21:21):
dead naming an act of legal discrimination which can be
punished as as a crime, as a civil punishment. You
can go and say this is a this is discrimination.
What does that mean? It means that your your speech
(21:43):
is no longer your own. I find that to be
even more dangerous than this, this new lawsing we've got
to pay for other people's plastic surgery. First Amendment says
government cannot tell us what to say or what not
(22:07):
to say. And then Colorado flies in the face of
that and says, if a man wants you to address
him as her, legally you have to. Legally you have to.
How insane and unconstitutional is that? That's the real danger.
(22:34):
That's why having these pronouns on your email address and
your business cards is so dangerous. It's speech control. Colorado
now has speech control. Why is speech control so important?
Because if you can, if you can control how somebody
(23:02):
uses words, you end up controlling the way they think.
That's why the left is so good at this. It's
why they're so good at semantic warfare. It's not racial discrimination, no, no, no,
we call it affirmative action. Who could be against affirmative action? No.
(23:24):
And it's not self manufactured guns somebody making a gun
in their own home. No. No, it's a quote ghost gun.
It's not a semi automatic, it's a it's an assault rifle,
an assault weapon. By using these terms, you load the argument.
(23:50):
It must have been twenty years ago that my hometown,
a boulder outlawed owning a dog. Can't own a dog,
can't own a cat, can't own a goldfish. You cannot
be a pet owner a pet guardian. That's right. They
changed all the rule laws and ordinances and struck the
(24:12):
word pet owner and changed it to pet guardian. Why
because somebody like our first gentleman, wants to change the
way you think. Now, we all laughed at this twenty
years ago, but today you have a conversation even with
my kids, and they'll go, oh, when they see a dog, Oh,
who's your guardian? What? Who's that dog's guardian? The dog
(24:38):
doesn't have a guardian, it has an owner. The idea
of a guardian is you don't own what you are guarding.
That's what's so different about it. Does that make any
sense to you. I'm just so frustrated that we cannot
have a reasonable conversation about this issue. Here's the graph.
(25:08):
Here's why we can't have that conversation. It goes back
to the intolerance during debates. It goes something like this.
On issues like the trans movement, you cannot have an
open dialogue about it because if you do, you are
either ignorant or you are hateful, or some combination of
(25:32):
the two. You can almost graph it out. It's an
inverse relationship. You're either stupid or you're mean. You're either
ignorant or you're a racist. It's not that you're wrong.
(25:53):
It's not that we can beat you on the technicalities.
It's not something that we can look at the logic
of a situation. You want to argue with somebody about
the trans movement, you are either ignorant or you're a hater.
(26:17):
And that's the logic that is used. That is the
argument that is always used against us. Don't you agree?
How many times when you get into this discussion have
you been called either stupid or mean because you refuse
to use their terms. You refuse to call a man
(26:42):
a woman. Now, I want to be really clear about that.
I don't I don't take away that guy's right to
identify as a woman. I don't take away his right
to identify as a kumquat. I don't care. You do you, man?
You do you, and you respect me for doing me.
(27:05):
You think you're a she, more power to you. You
just knock yourself out, have yourself a great old time.
But you have to then respect my right to see
the world the way I see the world. I cannot
(27:29):
call you a she why because that would be a lie.
I understand you want me to call you as she,
and sometimes I'll do this. My son thinks he's a
race car. He is Lightning McQueen from the Disney Pixar
(27:53):
movie Cars. I'm Tomater if you know the characters, and
we both go along with that. He doesn't have shoes,
he calls his shoes wheels. He doesn't drink water, he
calls a gasoline. We don't go to the doctor, we
go to the mechanic. And I enjoy this farce with him.
(28:20):
My son has down syndrome, and mentally he's probably around
six years old, much like his old man, and we
have fun with that. But I hate to tell you this.
I don't actually think he's a race car. I mean,
he's fast, faster than me, but I don't think my
(28:43):
son is actually a race car, even though he calls
himself a race car. I go along with it because
it's fun and it's okay by me. But if I
had to imagine, if there was a law that says,
(29:05):
if if a person identifies as a race cars, you
must call him a race car, otherwise you are committing
an act of discrimination. Well that's now the Long, Colorado. No,
I'm not belittling those people who think they were born
in the wrong body. I get it. I've known people
(29:26):
who are. But that doesn't mean I have to lie publicly.
That's what I find much more dangerous than these these
ideas that We've got to pay for your plastic surgery.
That's bad, that's dangerous. That's going to bankrupt us. But
(29:51):
it's not morally wrong. It's ethically wrong telling me I've
got to look at the world and say it is
what it obviously is not. That's morally wrong, that's repugnant.
That's forced speech. I see a guy an address, and
(30:15):
by law, I have to refer to him as her,
otherwise I will be misgendering, which is now an act
of discrimination. Now, there was a time when discrimination was
a good thing. People had discriminating tastes for the highly
(30:38):
discriminating consumer of wine. You enjoy this. Now we have
a civil rights Commission and they will go after you
if you do something that is a discrimination. Using the
wrong pronoun is now legal discrimination in Colorado. But what
(31:01):
if I can prove scientifically that that person who I'm
supposed to call she is in fact biologically a he?
What if I could show his chromosomes or x Y,
and therefore, by forcing me to call this man she,
(31:25):
you are forcing me to lie. What is it like
for those people, in order to keep their jobs, have
to go along with this clap trap. They've got to
in order to put food on the table, call their
coworker she when he's he. Otherwise they get sent to HR,
(31:53):
they get fired, they lose their job, and they've got
to come home and tell their kids that the truth matters,
that you shouldn't lie. But in order to keep my
job to feed you, I have to lie. Does that
(32:18):
make sense? What does that do to a person's soul?
What does it do to their mind? Now? I've got
such sympathy for people who are raised to talitarian regimes
in North Korea, And you've got to say that this
(32:38):
guy is the dear leader, and you've got to lie
otherwise you go to jail. Otherwise you go to the gulag.
Otherwise your family disappears. So you're forced to lie into
talitarian regimes, and you got to do it publicly, otherwise
(33:00):
you're in trouble. That's what we have here in Colorado.
Now you must deny the facts. The objective truth and
call a man a woman. Otherwise you will be brought
up on charges of discrimination and punished for telling the truth.
(33:24):
That should scare us all. Give me three seven one,
three eight two five five Send me a text. I'm
John Caldera in for the Big Man. Keep it right
here six point thirty k How John?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
If they would just give good mental health care to
adolescents and teenagers, we wouldn't have this problem because most
children are capable of being counseled to understand that it's
a transition period in their life and they aren't meant
(34:00):
to change, They're meant to adjust to the change.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Being a teenager is tough, it's tougher now. But what
a sign of an indulgent society, as a society that
lives in excess, when instead of worrying about how we're
going to get enough food to eat, we worry about
(34:31):
gender dysphoria. Do you think people were worried about gender
dysphoria during the Depression? Do you think as Europe was
being ravaged by Nazis people were worried? You know, I
don't feel like my body matches my mind. No, No,
these are such incredible, incredible problems caused by the excess
(34:59):
the wealth that capitalism has given us. These were not
problems before. Now they're problems. I don't know how to
handle kids who are going through this confusion. I feel very,
(35:19):
very sorry for them. I believe they're being preyed upon
the idea that if you don't feel one hundred percent
comfortable in your own body, you're obviously trans and therefore
you need all this treatment. How difficult, how difficult it
(35:42):
must be to live in this world growing up? How
about this from the text line, John, I know doctors
who won't let women under thirty years old who are
adamant that they quote don't want kids getting their tubes
tied because they might changchange their mind. I get that.
(36:04):
Most writer right, Most surgeons won't allow won't also do
breast implants for teenage girls under eighteen years old for
multiple reasons, including that their bodies are still developing. Yet
we have doctors mutilating the sex organs for kids under eighteen.
(36:27):
Why the double standard? And it's not just mutilating sex organs,
it's removing breasts or adding breasts, cosmetic surgery, face toial, reconstructive,
bone reconstructive surgery, rhinoplasty, so many things that that will
(36:49):
ruin people in the future, including a lot of hormonal
changes that will do real damage to these kids. How
is this not child abuse? I don't know. But now
not only do we have to pay for it under
(37:09):
the new law, we're paying for other people's transitions. We've
got to use the words they demand,
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