6-2-25 - 7am - This Is An Act of Terror

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning for South Dakota.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I know you've already covered the terrible topic of what
happened in Boulder, Colorado, but I found it ironic that
on social media I saw a photo of the man
in front of a sign that said no smoking area.
Just goes to show that those signs do not stop
violence of any kind. Everyone have a great day.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
As kind of an adjunct to that talk back during
the break, because I said something about Pearl Street Mall
being a gun free zone, I can't say that that's true,
but it may not be. But I did find I
think I've since closed the tab. Let me see if

(00:44):
I go, do I open somewhere. I didn't find anything
that indicates that it is a gun free zone. However,
I did find a Where's my History? I must have
already closed it out, but it was a City of

(01:08):
Boulder website. I'm just kind of scrolling as I'm talking.
It seems if I can find it again, in which
they list all of the rules about what you can
and cannot. Well, actually, let me rephrase that. It's a
list of all of the things that you cannot do

(01:29):
on the Pearl Street Mall. Now I confess it's been
a long time since I've been on the Pearl Street mall.
We keep talking about driving up there one weekend, just
you know, for nostalgia sake, just to go see what
it looks like, because we haven't been there for ages,
even though we used to live up there. But for

(01:49):
whatever reason, we find always find some of the reasons
not to go. That traffic sucks, out of the road suck,
I gotta be too crowded. I just don't want to
do it. But E actually we'll do it. As I
read through that list, I was just fascinated by I mean,
it was just like at least two pages of two
web pages of everything that you cannot do. But it

(02:13):
didn't say you couldn't use a flamethrower. It didn't say
anything about that. But I want to talk to I
told you I wanted to also talk about anti Semitism,
which is clearly what this was. As it's more than
anti Semitism.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
It is.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
A significant challenge to the principles and I believe the
stability of Western civilization. These incidents, including the violent attacks,
the harassment on college campuses, the discrimination in terms of

(02:57):
the rhetoric, all of that has really far reaching implications,
and it extends way beyond the Jewish communities. It does, indeed,
in my opinion, affect the broader social, the cultural, and
the political fabric of all Western societies. And it's gotten

(03:17):
even worse, I believe. I know we can find examples
of it all over the world, but right now I
only care about the United States. But it does affect
the political fabric of just Western societies in general. And
I think there are some key effects about the complexity

(03:38):
of what this is doing to Western civilization. But before
I go into some of the notes that I've made
about what it really does in terms of Western civilization,
let's listen. Just listen for a moment to some of
the reaction. This is. This is Jamie Raskin, Democrat from

(04:02):
New York, who is always always on MSNBC, you know, bitching,
moaning about something you Republicans have done. What do you
have to say here?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I now want to bring in Congressman Jamie Raskin. Congressman,
thank you for joining us this evening. I want to
start with a simple question for you, which is how
you're doing it.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Notice the somber tone suddenly, let's lower the temperature. Really,
why now? Why why?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Why?

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Why?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Why Boulder? What about Columbia? What about Harvard? What about
incidents all over the world. Let's call all the way
back to France, Charlie Updough, Why why now?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
For you?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Which is how you're doing and how you are processing
this news tonight?

Speaker 6 (05:02):
Well, it's a nightmare and a profound shock to everybody.
Of course in the Washington, DC area, and my district
is in Montgomery County, Maryland, people are still reeling from
the violence that took place outside of the Capitol Jewish
Museum that led to the deaths of Sarah Milgrom and

(05:25):
your own Shrinsky. These were Israeli staff members who were
killed outside of the museum. This appears to be another
anti Semitic violent attack, and there's just no justification for
terrorism and violence in this way, and we need to

(05:47):
turn this dynamic around very quickly. I have sent a
letter with colleagues asking for funding for Faith's facilities. This
is something that has worked in the past to make
sure that synagogues and churches and mosques are protected.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
No, I'm not opposed to synagogues and churches protecting themselves,
but why is it always the response to Democrats that
I've introduced a piece of legislation to spend taxpayer money
to protect synagogues. You don't really want to address the issue.

(06:30):
You don't really want to address the in their vernacular,
the root cause of all of this. You ever thought
about what the root cause is? Progressivism, Marxism, the very
thing that Jamie rasking By the way, I said, he's
New York, He's actually from Maryland. The very thing that
Jamie Raskin, in so far as any other issue before

(06:53):
the United States Congress will take some will take a
Marxist viewpoint about it. Now what what? It's one of
the basic tenets of Marxism. Eliminate religion, eliminate God. The
state becomes your god, The state becomes your protector, the
state becomes where you put your faith, the state becomes everything.

(07:14):
And here he is, with such bull crap on him,
you know, with all due respect to him in terms
of his Judaism, I just really, I just really don't
care at this point. You want to spend money to
protect synagogues. You don't want to address the root cause,
which happens to be the Marxist policies of the Democrat
Party all across this country. At all levels, federal, state,

(07:35):
and local. They just continue to push the state as
being the answer to every single question. When it's the
destruction of the family, it's the destruction of religion, it's
the destruction of faith. This is the attack on Christian
and Christians, it's the attack on Jews. But you can't

(07:56):
say anything, You can't dare say anything about radical Islamis.
So you want to bury your head in the sand
and instead just throw some money at hey, you know,
and do what you want to spend. Think about it
in these terms. You want to spend taxpayer money protecting

(08:19):
a synagogue, but you don't want to spend any money
allowing a parent to make a choice to send there.
To take those federal tax dollars that would be spent
on education, or the state level or county school district level,
whatever level you want to claim. You want to spend

(08:39):
money to protect the synagogue from radical Islamis, but you
don't want to take that same money and let people
make their choice to about where they want to send
their kids to school.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
From this kind of violence. And that's something that I
hope will be able to move in Congress to get
funded and more generally though, we really need to look
to movements for nonviolence and peace and history, which is
so lacking during this time where it seems like people

(09:12):
are expressing themselves in the most deranged and violent ways,
and that is taking us down a very dark road,
and we have to turn it around quickly.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You know, this is the same guy. One of the
things I talked about Saturday was last week when I
was on vacation. May twenty fifth, to be exact, was
the five year anniversary of the death of George Floyd,
which led to what, oh, the summer of mostly peaceful
protests in which you know, they all they all dressed

(09:46):
up in their in their African garb and went down
and dropped to their knees. Somehow genuflecting to the violence
that was taking place all across the country. The stupid
mayor of Minneapolis goes to the few unerald George Floyd
and drops to his knees, puts his hand on the
casket of Saint George and crocodile tears in my opinion,

(10:09):
and balls his eyes out while his city is burning
to the ground. These people are despicable, utterly despicable, and
we need to you know, they talk about lowering the rhetoric.
I think it's time for you and I to fire
up the rhetoric, no pun intended. We really do need

(10:29):
to start calling them out for precisely what they are.
And by the way, speaking of what was that dirt
bag doing in the country.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Anyway, Fox News for incidents like this, and we're seeing
it having more and more.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
And Paul, you have talked tonight quite a lot about
wanting to know about who this individual is, what about
his travel, what about his background, and we can break
to our viewers now. Per three senior DHS and I
sources to Fox, according to our colleague Bill Malusian doing

(11:08):
some great work, that he is an Egyptian national who
is in the US illegally because of a visa overstay,
who came during the Biden administration. Mohammed Sabray Solomon first
flew into the US. According to these three sources of
the DHS and ICE, flew into the US on August

(11:29):
of twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Two at LAX. He was authorized to.

Speaker 7 (11:32):
Stay through twenty twenty three, but.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Never left a little bit of more.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
Details coming into this, but you were very interested to
learn as much as you can about Solomon's background.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, and so obviously one of the talking points is
going to be the fact that he would not have
been here and should not have been here if we
were actually enforcing our immigration laws. I think for the
purposes of the investigation and the prosecution and what charges abroad, etc.
What they're going to be particularly interested in is any

(12:07):
of the contacts that he had back home. He's here now,
it's about three years still, in any conversations he had
back then may or may not be pertinent, But was
he reaching back home? Was he in contact with bad
elements overseas? These are the things that those US attorneys
that spoke at the press conference and the DA they're
going to be losing out very hard so they can

(12:27):
figure which way to go with this investigation. And look,
this guy's going to be heavily charged where in a
weird in a way, it almost doesn't matter. He's going
to be heavily charged. He's going to be locked up
for life.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
But we really just pause for a moment. He should
not have been here in the first place. But and
I don't care whether it's the Obama administration, the Bush administration,
the Trump first Trump administration, the Biden administration. I don't
care whose administration it is. He shouldn't have been here now,

(13:01):
I know that Fox has got to get their little
dig in about it happened during the Biden He came
here during the Biden administration. That's fine. Why wasn't he
removed during the Bible Why wasn't he removed anyway? It
certainly didn't take Fox or DHS or the FBI or
anybody else any time at all to find out that, oh,
he's overstayed his visa. I know that there's a function

(13:22):
of money, time and effort to get people who overstayed
their visas out of the country, but he's one of
probably hundreds of thousands of people who have overstayed their visas.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, I'm not going to glorify this guy doing a
heinous act, but he came here legally. Again to what
you said, it doesn't matter what administration he came here under.
He came here legally, he overstayed.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
And the minute he overstayed, that appeared somewhere in a
database in DHS or the State Department or both, and
at that point he's subject to removal. Now, I know
we have a lot of catching up to do in
order to get people who overstay their visus. And I
know that you know, we limited resources, limited time, but

(14:07):
I gotta tell you, Gang, this is the consequence of
over decades of ignoring immigration rules. When you when when
you to to the point that and I do have
to in this case, I do have to point out
the Biden administration because late on the program, I ain't

(14:28):
going to talk about the book that I did read
and did return. But I do honestly believe, after having
read Jake Tapper's book, that the influx of the millions
of illegal aliens into this country based on an open

(14:51):
border was not necessarily the policy of Joe Biden the man,
but it what was the policy of the pulp Bureau
that was running the White House. Which is why Alejandro
Majorcas or Kamala Harris or anybody else in the administration

(15:12):
would just bald face slide of the cameras about having
a secure border because they knew that dip WOD was
out of it and they were doing precisely what their
manipulators wanted done. And now we're seeing the consequences of them.
We're going to do and it's going to take us.
It's going to take us forever to get all of

(15:37):
them out of here and to clean this up.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Really need to do is to look at why it happened,
how it happened. Those are the things that are really
more important and in actually some of them are outside
the purview of investigators and the police.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
And.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I want to emphasize that point. A lot of the
five w's, who, where, when, and why about this particular
case are indeed outside the purview and really raise a
lot larger questions than just this one incident. Because this
one incident has our attention today for two reasons, well

(16:12):
actually several reasons. One is because it happened in our backyard. Two,
who's a flamethrower? And three, it happened in a place
that we haven't seen these things really happening before. We've
been watching happening on college campuses or outside a Jewish museum.
We haven't really seen them just so blatantly out in

(16:36):
a place that everybody thinks is just hippie them Pearl
Street mall.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
The fact that we have the stuff going on on
these campuses, and that the administrations, whether it's Columbia or
Harvard or any of them, seem to just shrug. These
are the things that I think, as a society more
important than we have to be looking at.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
And officials saying that this cannot happen, will not happen again, but.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
It will happen again. That's the dumbest thing I think
I've ever heard the Fox News person say it will
happen again, which means that's why we need to think
about what's really going on here.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Now.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I know, if you're Jewish, you see this as you should,
as an attack on your faith, your religion, your race.
I get that, totally get that. But it's also something
much larger, and I do believe it is a deliberate,
designed attack on Western civilization. ELO's main whyd neck, Michael.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
This is the second time it's happened in Boulder County.

Speaker 9 (17:52):
Let's not forget the King super shooter was another Muslim, not.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
A radical Muslim.

Speaker 8 (18:00):
A Muslim.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, I know, I just.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Not to be an a hole here, but put a
fine point on it. Does being Muslim make him bad?
Are you implying, sir, Talkbacker, that Muslims themselves are bad?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
No, but that Muslim was, that Muslim was engaged in
anti Semitic act, So that would be his tar. He
targeted that particular king Supers because of the Jewish population
in that neighborhood, and he had calculated there would be
a certain number of Jews in that king.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
So then I would say, then he is a radical Muslim.
So I wouldn't just say, hey, he's just a Muslim. No, no, no,
that would be the radical version, because.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Actually, even even to your point, I would say he's
a radical Islamis. I casually mentioned that the FBI came
out and immediately noted that, oh, let's see, we have
people protesting or demonstrating or marching in in support of

(19:06):
the hostages held by hamas a radical Islamus anti Jewish,
organized terrorist organization, and you have an Egyptian whose over
state is VISA targeting that particular group pretty much seems
nat to terrorism. It's an ID, it's an active ideological violence.

(19:31):
So yeah, it's terrorism. And of course, as I said earlier,
the Boulder police chief it was a little reticent to
come out and say anything about well, you know, in
terms of Modeiven, we're not really sure yet when he
could have said, it appears that, but you know, I'm
not going to quibble with him. I just would have
been a little more frank considering everything else going on

(19:53):
in the freaking world right now. But CNN remember Andy McCabe,
what was it was he the deputy director of the
FBI for you, But you remember Cabe, McCabe, Strobe, stroke Strong,
all those yellow who was in the FBI.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
I think that the press conference that we saw, one
thing was abundantly clear, as they the local authorities and
I'm not sure we got the name of that person
who is speaking. He seems to be a chief or
somebody in charge there. Yeah, he is really being very
very careful, and I think that's the right approach at
this point. They don't have a clear idea that they're

(20:32):
willing to communicate to the rest of the world yet
of even exactly what happened, who was there, how they
were attacked with fire, and what the purpose or the
motive of that attack might have been. So he was
very very clear to say that they're not drawing any
conclusions about terrorism or anything else at this point. They're
trying to figure out who they have in custody and

(20:53):
what that person might have done and who he was
trying to hurt with that action. So it's hard to
imagine that the FBI has more or better information at
this point to kind of rush out with the conclusion
within like ten minutes after we all started hearing about this.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Now, he should know that the FBI, probably at the
point they made the comment about this being an act
of terrorism, knows the identity of the individual that had
the flamethrower. They've already run his name through the database
both THEIRS, DHS's and the state departments and found out that, Oh, yeah,

(21:36):
he came here on a non immigrant tourist visa of
some sort. He's overstayed that visa. Oh, he happens to
be Muslim. Oh, and he's attacking a demonstration. I'm having
a hard time with the right word. And he attacked
an event in support of oh, Jewish prisoners being held

(21:59):
by Hamas. So I would say the FBI, and he
should mcape should know better. But he's on the MSNBC.
So what's his objective to denigrate his former organization and
to denigrate Cash Betel and therefore denigrate Donald Trump.

Speaker 9 (22:19):
That it's a targeted active or may very well be,
But most of the time you try to be very
careful about attaching that label to an attack until you
have solid evidence that indicates a motive that would qualify
as terrorism, like an actor.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Now that may be a true statement. He has no
idea what the FBI knew or knows, but particularly what
they knew when they made the statement. Now, why do
I even care about the sound bite? I care about
this sound bite because this is an example of how
we coddle all of this activity. We coddle this violence.

(22:59):
We're scared to say anything. We're not really sure of
the motive. We've got to we've got to find out more.
Wait a minute, you've got someone of Middle Eastern descent
with with a homemade flamethrower killing people that are out
there protesting in support of Julish hostages held by hamas
a foreign terrorist organization. Call it as it is called

(23:24):
the spade to spay, Come on quick, coddling these people,
but they do because you know why, because they are
Marxists who they themselves want to see the destruction of

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Western civilization.

Speaker 9 (23:45):
Intended to intimidate a population, or to change the impact,
change the direction of government, that sort of thing. Those
are all parts of the terrorism statutes. So uh, I
think we go with what we're hearing from the folks
who are closest to the event at this point, and
they do have a lot of work to do, but
they seem to be on top of it, and we'll
hear from them again tonight.

Speaker 10 (24:05):
Apparently, Yeah, I mean Juliet. That was the other thing
is we got really from from those local authorities, broad
strokes on this really scary and as he said, not okay,
not appropriate. This is this is devastating to any community.
This is this is not what we what anybody wants
in the United States of America anywhere. But but again,

(24:26):
just broad strokes of of what they know, which doesn't
seem like to to Annie's point there, like they're willing
to say that they're confident in knowing a lot right now.
Right That was I'm going to be quite direct here.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
The FBI director and deputy director got.

Speaker 10 (24:42):
Way ahead of where the local police were.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
So so they have access to more information than the
local cops do. There is within the FBI, there is
an operation and center and they are constantly monitoring everything
going on in the country. When something like this happens,

(25:06):
they immediately reach out and who do you think, So
do you think when whoever's in the ops center, say
for Boulder County in their Emergency Operations center, and they
get a call and the calls identified as being from
the FBI OP center. Hey, this is Agent Michael Brown
with it. I'm at you know, I'm in seat number

(25:29):
sixty seven B twelve, you know, in the Hoover Building
or wherever the OPPS center might be. I'm calling from
Quantico and I need to know the name of the suspect.
You're going to tell them, and they're gonna instantly find
out everything they know about this person. The reason I
want you to understand all those details. This this particular

(25:52):
SoundBite was occurring at about four fifteen or so yesterday
afternoon mountain time, our time, so they'd had what almost
three hours almost three hours, So the FBI knows a
hell of a lot more, probably than the local cops

(26:12):
do in terms of the identity and the motivation of
that particular individual. But MSNBC is determined to soft pedal it.
And why do they want to soft pedal it because
they're part of the problem. They're unwilling to just say that, hey,

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this is an act of terrorism, and this is this
is anti semitism. Why are we afraid to do that.
The one thing that we can learn about boulders is
pretty simple. But this is true. This is true with
even just forget the flamethrower and to the point about

(26:57):
the King Supers or any other act of gun violence
anywhere in the country. This shows that no one is
immune anytime, anywhere. And I know I say this a lot,

(27:20):
but if you haven't taken steps yourself to learn situational awareness,
to learn some form of self defense, to learn what
to practice, to imagine and practice what you would do
in any of those situations. I know that my family

(27:42):
still makes fun of me, and I just don't give
a ratsass, But I am constantly situationally aware such that
our friends know, Oh, Mike's got to sit where you
can see the front door of the restaurant. Mike's got it,
you know. Michael's got to sit, you know, at the
back of the elevator so he can see exactly what's
going on. Michael's got to do this. They they've learned

(28:03):
what I do, So mock at all you want, I
really don't care. I'll be ready. So this, this event
should teach us that something much larger is going on. Yes,

(28:25):
it's a horrid the event itself is horrific, just as
the event on the events on college campuses have been horrific.
The events in the Jewish Museum in DC are are horrific.
Charlie Ebno was horrific. How many years ago has that been?
All of these events, but we take each of them

(28:48):
in isolation, and we never put them together as one.
All of these, the surge, if you will, and anti
Semitic incidents poses significant challenges to the principles and the
stability of Western civilization. The violent attacks or just the harassment,

(29:16):
the discriminatory rhetoric all have implications far beyond Jewish communities,
and it does indeed affect the broader social, the cultural,
and the political fabric of Western society. And there are
some key effects that I want to go through next.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
Hey, Michael, this is just another reason why I concealed
carry every day things like this that happen. And he
should actually be a taxpayer relief shot on Friday, But he.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Just got arrested. I don't think he was injured. I mean,
I have to go back, and.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I think he's complying that he would have made he would.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Have made him. Oh, yes, he should have been He
should be a TPRs for Friday, but he's not so West.
I want you to think just in general, this is going
to get fairly esultic, and I'll carry it over to
the next hour, but I really do want you to
think about the broader implications of what's going on, because
we get mired down into oh my gosh, there was

(30:26):
a shooting ear, there was a bombing there. You know,
there's a flamethrower and boulder. We get mired down in
that and we never step back and go, what the
hell's going on here? When you think about Western civilization,
which is, you know, between capitalism and free markets, individual liberty,
individual freedom has given us this amazing life that we

(30:49):
now live. Well, Western civilization is rooted primarily in certain
principles pluralism, individual liberty, in freedom, mutual respect, and those
principles allow all of these diverse communities to coexist. Says

(31:12):
like a liberal, doesn't it. But that's the real meaning
of Western civilization. Pluralism, individual liberty, and freedom, mutual respect,
so that regardless of your background, regardless of who you are,
there are certain values that we all ascribe to, and
that allows us to truly coexist, not a stupid bumper sticker,

(31:36):
but to truly coexist, and anti Semitism as a form
of prejudice that targets a very specific groups undermines those
values by fostering division and exclusion. So you take an
incident like Boulder, where a group was rawlling or marching

(31:59):
whatever the word might be for hostages, that group was targeted.
Or you take the harassment of Jewish students on campuses,
that creates an atmosphere of fear and an atmosphere of alienation. Now,
when Jewish individuals feel unsafe in a public space or

(32:21):
on a college campus, that is a signal of a
failure to uphold the inclusive ideas that Western societies have
always championed. And then that in itself then leads to
people to feel more emboldened to exercise other forms of bigotry,

(32:45):
and pretty soon all of that becomes normalized hate against
one group, and that normalized hate then begins to spill
over into broader intolerancerit large, take college campuses. Campuses, I mean, okay,
call me an old fard, I don't care. But for me,

(33:06):
the college campus was a place of just open discourse.
It was a place where you really had vigorous debate
where you argued and debated, and still at the end
of the debate, we're like, Okay, let's let's argue some

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more about it.