6-21-25 The Weekend Hour 1: Artificial Intelligence: Grooming Children with AI Chats?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Too night. Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA
director of talk.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a
heck of a job the Weekend with Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from Denver, Colorado. You've tuned into the Weekend
with Michael Brown. Glad to have you joining the program today.
You know, if you want to send me a text
message anytime during the program or Hell's bells listening to
the podcast, whenever you want to send me a text message,
twenty four hours, seven days a week, the number on
your message app is three three one zero three three
three one zero three. Use the keyword Mike or Michael

(00:31):
either one. You know how in the past we have
talked about we live in a world where almost everything
you well, I shouldn't say, almost everything that you read
you have to take with a grain of salt. You
have to stop and think to yourself, Okay, who's saying this,
what's their agenda, what's their background? Why are they writing this?

(00:53):
You know, what are they not telling me as much
as what they are telling me? For example, on the
program on the Weekday program yesterday, I went through a
Wall Street Journal article written by Molly Ball, and it
caught my attention. Well, the headline caught my attention because
it was like, Oh my god, Trump's push on immigration
is destroying his poll numbers. And I thought, oh, that's

(01:13):
bull crap. Me let me read the story, and then
I saw, oh, Molly Ball wrote the article. Molly Ball,
whose name probably doesn't mean anything to you, is a
graduate of a high school here in Denver, and she
went she got I forget she got her degree. I
think maybe at Yale or somewhere, I don't know, I
don't care. And then she she went overseas to Cambodias,

(01:35):
I think, as her first reporter job, and she she
got fired from that because she wrote a story about
her boss. The lesson here is, don't write stories about
your boss if you're a reporter, unless, of course, it's
a puff piece. But then that kind of destroys your
credibility too.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Anyway, long story short, the story had to be taken down,
and then they had to make all these corrections, and
then I think there was actually, you know, maybe a
defamation lawsuit of some sort, and they had to pay
out some money. And then she kind of bounced around
to the Atlantic magazine Politico and other places. She married
a reporter or an editor from Politico, and now she's

(02:18):
bounced over to the Wall Street Journal. Now, you know,
I'm a big fan of the Wall Street Journal editorial page.
But the Wall Street Journal news pages are much like
any other news pages there. When you read the Wall
Street Journal, you still have to take it with a
grain of salt. Then, after I do that story yesterday,

(02:40):
I am, you know, it's Friday evening. We've had dinner,
and you know, we're kind of settling in at home
and relaxing, and the dogs are snoring, and you know,
I'm thinking about going to bed early and blah blah
blah blah blah. So I start doom scrolling through Facebook
and I see I don't know, three four, maybe five videos,

(03:00):
and I think to myself, Eh, those aren't real. Those
are made by art. You know, someone's gone on to
AI artificial intelligence app and they've made these videos. And
one video was of a base jumper. Now, when they
started the video, you know, they were like, I think

(03:21):
maybe this was on X. Doesn't make any difference wherever
I saw it on social media. But I got intrigued
by the video because the question was you know, how
much would you how much would it take for you
to do this? Now, I've never done any base jumping.
I've seen people do it. I'm fascinated by it. I'd
probably try it. I'd probably try it without getting paid,

(03:41):
but I'd want to learn about it before I did it.
I'm not that stupid. I mean, I know, yeah, well Brown,
we're gonna care that stupid. So I watched the video
and I'm thinking, now, wait a minute, this guy seems
to be taking I know, I know, he's waiting for
the wind, he's jumping off a gigantic cliff. But as
I watch and wait for him to make the leap,

(04:05):
I begin to question, wait a minute, this doesn't seem real.
And then he finally, you know, puts his hands out
leaps off the cliff. And interestingly, you know, I thought, well,
the video that I was watching was from behind him,
and when he leaped, he would turn on his go

(04:26):
pro camera on his helmet and we would watch him
as he you know, glided out into the sky and
you know, landed somewhere. No, he leaped, he leaped off
the cliff, and suddenly it's as if the there was
a camera in front of him, you know, gyro based.

(04:50):
There was no jerking movement, no wind, no you know,
moving around. It was perfect. And then I realized, wait
a minute, he doesn't look like he's He looks like
he's superimposed on the cliff. Now. Remember I'm seeing the
video jumps from behind him to in front of him. Now,
if you understand base jumping, he is now flying through

(05:14):
the air and starting to move downward, and the camera
angle is perfect. Well, you can't do that with even
if he had some sort of weird and I can't
even imagine what it would be, but a weird tripod
coming around with a go pro camera in front of him.

(05:36):
So I realized, after watching the stupid damn video for
three or four minutes, I'm watching a fake video. Then
I got to thinking about just artificial intelligence in general,
and the idea that we can't believe what we read
and now we've entered the face. And don't get me wrong,
I am not opposed to artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence has

(06:01):
helped me with show prep. There have been many times
when you know, for example, some of you might send
me a story or a link or something, or you
might ask me a question about something and I you know,
I can do a Google search, I can go on
Lexus and Nexus, and if I'm not getting satisfactory answers
off those that I might go to one of the
AI apps and say you do a search and you

(06:25):
show me some websites and it gives me a way
to double and triple check stories that either I'm questioning
or that you might send me. So I'm not opposed
to artificial intelligence. I do think maybe we need to
think about how we're going to use it, how we
disclose whether something is real or fake or produced by
artificial intelligence. So don't get me wrong. This is not

(06:46):
a segment about Brown's opposed to AI, but it did
make me last night shift my thinking from I can't
just talk to you about everything that you read can
be fake, but also that everything that you see can
be fake. Now and we've gone from you know, you

(07:09):
think about photoshop. Anybody who has a digital camera has
probably at some time pittled around with photoshop or even
photos on the iOS operating system. You can edit photos
and you can clean things up and iman they're pretty
rudimentary kinds of things that you can do in terms
of editing well with artificial intelligence. Now you can do

(07:33):
all sorts of amazing editing. You can be standing in
front of the Eiffel Tower and if you want to
get rid of the crowds in front of it, there
are apps that will eliminate the crowds and you have
the perfect shot of the Eiffel Tower with no crowds.
You know, yet it's you know, early evening with the sunsetting. Well, no,
that's that's not real. Well it might be a real photograph,

(07:55):
but you've altered it enough that I think it's a
significant enough alteration that the photograph is no longer real
if you take out all the crowds, which makes it beautiful.
Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful photograph, but it's
now fake. Well that led me into a rabbit hole
last night about other ways that artificial intelligence is being used.

(08:21):
And now I find that artificial intelligence may actually be
used in some cases to engage in inappropriate chats with children.
And how are kids or even parents going to know,
particularly if a kid has headphones on, what are they
talking about? What's being said? Let's go through that because

(08:44):
it can be very very scary. It's the weekend with
Michael Brown, Glad to have you with me if you'd
like to. In fact, if I want you to go
follow me on x formerly Twitter, It's at Michael Brown USA.
I'll be right back. You've tuned into the Weekend with
Michael Brown, and I'm really glad that you have. Be

(09:06):
sure and subscribe to the podcast. On your podcast app,
search for the Situation with Michael Brown The Situation with
Michael Brown. Once you find that, you hit that subscribe button,
leave a five star review to help us beat the algorithms,
and you can listen to the podcast, and that helps
me with our digital numbers. So I appreciate you listening

(09:27):
to the podcast. We're talking about artificial intelligence, and I'm
not opposed artificial intelligence. I just think that we ought
to be aware that it might be a little more
dangerous than we think, and there might be opportunities for
some of our enemies to use it in really bad ways,
or for even some corporations or some of the social

(09:47):
media platforms, whoever it might be, to use artificial intelligence
in a way that once again we have to start
questioning our own reality. Now I know I I'm sitting
in I'm sitting in my studio in Denver, Colorado right now,
and everything around me seems to be pretty real. You know,

(10:07):
I've got the board, the microphone, I got my television on.
All my monitors are turned on, my laptops in front
of me. I've got my phone here, some fee little
snacks over here. Everything seems real. But the minute I
start focusing on what's in front of me on the laptop,
it's you do we go to movies. Have you seen

(10:30):
the oh, the Latest Mission Impossible movie? I mean, obviously
there's some you know, CGI in that computer generated imaging, imaging,
but it's you know that some of that stuff is
not real. But you know the other way, I know
that what I'm watching is not real because I'm in

(10:50):
a movie theater, so I know it's a movie, and
so I know whatever violence I see, for that matter,
whatever sex I might see, you know somebody, you know,
a boob shows up on the movie screen. Well, that
may or may not be real. I don't know. Even
in real life. Sometimes you have to wonder about that.
So it's it's just you start focusing on your computer

(11:13):
screen or on your phone screen, whatever it might be.
You have to now question everything, and it can be
an incredibly powerful tool Fox Business.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm wondering, you know, about China and whether or not
the present needs to get tougher on travel to and
from China. I'm given the fact that a Chinese researchers
had this plot so smuggle a crop killing fungus into America.
The FBI says, this is incredibly serious. How do you
see it?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I see the same thing. I think we have to
look at how we how we deal with China and
everything that we do. We're looking at AI in our
committee and how China's trying to dominate AI in the world.
And I think China is our number one the focus
that we have to have, and so I strongly support
anything we can do to ban that type of thing
from China.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, I mean, look, the list is growing here. You've
got a surveillance balloon a couple of years ago, a
surveilling American citizens.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
You've got intellectual property, theft.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
COVID fent and all, and now an ADRO terrorist.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
And I and artificial intelligence. So it's everywhere everywhere we look.
It has surrounded us everywhere, and so now we have
to question everything now, I think, and I've you know,
I'm still in the middle of artificial intelligence. I believe
there are probably going to be some negative social consequences.

(12:35):
There's probably some potential for some moral issues. If not,
there's obviously a whole plethora of legal issues that could arise.
But I also think on the positive, you know, balance sheet,
there's some really good things to come out of artificial intelligence.
What it can do in terms of medicine, diagnosis, all
of that. It's it's amazing what they might be able

(12:57):
to do. But I want to focus on one negative thing,
societal manipulation. Now, some of the suspicions that I'm going
to describe for you in a minute seem to have
been confirmed true because new revelations are emerging of one

(13:18):
big tech outfit using their AI tool. And of course
they're big tech outfit. I'm bearing the lead here on purpose.
They also have access to billions of Internet users so
that they can normalize whatever it is they want to normalize.

(13:40):
So let's get into it. There's a new report that
exposes Meta which has Instagram, Facebook. They're EI powered chat bots.
I guess I don't want to assume that you know
what a chatbot is, but a chatbot you've probably seen it.
If you've if you've gone to get help with something online,

(14:01):
you know you've you've reached out for you know online
that says, if you need help whatever, click here, and
you're you're not talking to a real person, You're talking
to a computer, and you know the computer, well, you know, hell,
my name is you know really Bob, Well, how can
I help you today? So you type into what your
problem is and Billy Bob's the artificial intelligence reads it

(14:23):
and starts trying to help you work through. There's not
a human being on the other end. It's all a
chat bot. I know you've probably experienced. If you haven't
experienced that yet, you're going to it one time or another. Well,
Metta's AI powered chat bots that a lot of kids use,
and by kids, I mean people into the age of eighteen.

(14:45):
This report says those chat bots have been engaging in
graphic chat using the voices of Disney characters and celebrities
with those users, many of whom are actually underage. So
you have this American tech giant with access to and
three and a half billion users through Instatbook, Instagram, Facebook,

(15:08):
And oh, what's that that? I forgot about? What's thatpp?
Well Zuckerberg, Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO and founder himself, publicly
announced that the company will be removing its family friendly
approach to AI and chatbots. Here's what the Wall Street journals.
Speaking of Wall Street Journal, here's what they said about it.
It is not an accident that Meta's chatbots can speak

(15:31):
this way. Pushed by Zuckerberg, Meta made multiple internal decisions
to loosen the guardrails around the bots to make them
as engaging as possible, obviously wanting to, you know, really
sept these kids in, including by providing an exemption to
its ban on explicit content as long as it was
in the context of romantic role playing, according to people

(15:54):
familiar with the decision. Now that's been confirmed by Facebook.
Meta their own inside staffers warning their quote, these bots
may have crossed ethical lines and the company was not
protecting underage users from such sexually explicit discussions close quote. Wow,

(16:16):
how broken of a society is it where a billionaire
can promote such harmful behavior openly and there's no backlash
If you go online you start trying to find out
the backlash, well, you'll run across the Wall Street Journal
story and a few others. But they really tried to
whitewash it a little bit in terms of just how

(16:37):
really perverse it it was. I think most disturbingly the
Meta AI chat bots. They seem to be advanced enough
to be aware when they're engaging in conversations that are
actually illegal or amoral, or maybe even immoral. Yet it

(16:59):
will still purposely escalate to sexual scenarios even when they recognize,
or even when the computer itself recognizes or discovers that
the user is underage. Now the report, This report, as
described in the Wall Street Journal, found multiple examples where

(17:22):
within a few prompts, the AI will violate its rules
and produce inappropriate content, even if you tell the artificial
intelligence chatbot that you are thirteen years old. And Meta
has cut deals with a bunch of celebrities out of
Hollywood for the rights to use their voices in those
chat bots, including probably some you know whose voices are

(17:46):
used in some of the animated movies that these kids see.
I don't think it's a technical oversight. It's a deliberate
attempt by an amoral billionaire to exploit those children. Back
to the Wall Street Journal after this tonight, Michael Brown

(18:07):
joins me here.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
The former FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
The Weekend with Michael Brown. Hey, So Weekend with Michael Brown.
Glad to have you tuning in. You know, I just
want to remind you if you like what we do
during the weekend, you ought to listen during the weekday
on your iHeart app. Set this station as a preset
six thirty khow six thirty khow, and then you can

(18:33):
listen to me live during the weekday from six to
ten Mountain time, and we do. I cover the same
kind of stories during the weekday that I cover on
the weekend, So listen during the week too. So we're
talking about artificial intelligence and these chat butts that Meta,
the parent company of WhatsApp, Facebook, and Instagram have that
is actually having little you know, talk dirty to me

(18:56):
conversations with children thirteen year old twelve years old. Once again,
the Wall Street Journal reports quote the test conversations found
that both Meta's official AI helper and a vast array
of user created chat bots will engage in and sometimes
escalate discussions that are decidedly sexual, even when the users

(19:20):
are underage or the bots are programmed to simulate the
personas of minors that paragraph, that one sentence paragraph. I
could spend the entirety the rest of the program deconstructing,
because that's first thing. Set aside for a moment the
content and instead think about how the AI helper works.

(19:45):
Listen closely. Again, the user created chat bots will engage in.
The verb is engage, so something that is not human
is engaging in with you. And then the journal reports
sometimes escalate the discussions. So the programming of this artificial

(20:10):
intelligence chat bot is designed that I guess based on
inflection or keywords, pauses, breaths, any number of things, cadence
of the conversation, any number of things that will cause
this artificial intelligence chat bot to escalate the discussions. And

(20:30):
then it says that are decidedly sexual, so something I mean,
first of all, you have to remember that there's a
human being behind this that programmed this chat bot that
is now listening engaging, which is the verb that the
Wall Street Journal uses, engaging with the person. So just

(20:54):
like if I'm asking, you know, a service chat bot
to help me, how do I how do I replace
the filter on the new refrigerator? I bought the water
filter well, it's listening and or you know, reading the
things that I'm typing in in the chat box chat
bought box. It's interpreting those words, oh, refrigerator new he

(21:18):
knows the chat bot knows which company I'm talking about,
because that's that's who I'm online with. Now they may
ask for the make and model. They see the words
water filter problem, and so now it starts engaging with
me about that. Except here when even they will escalate

(21:39):
discussions that are decidedly sexual, even when the users are underage,
or the bots are programmed to simulate the personas of minors. Now,
you know, just as a footnote, if you got rug
rats running around your house, there's one more reason why
you should restrict your kids' internet access, or at least

(22:01):
understand to the extent that you can. What are you
looking at? What are you doing? Limit the screen time?
And I mean I have to be careful even within
my own family because oftentimes, you know, now a couple
of you know, ones in college, I can't say anything
about that, he's old enough to make his own decisions.

(22:21):
One still in high school, but is I mean absolutely
glued to her phone. And then sometimes when we go
to dinner with the third grandchild other child of mine
is who's only six years old. Well, first thing, you know,
on that iPad watching a movie while or playing a

(22:43):
game while we're at dinner, and it drives me nuts.
So I understand it's a challenge, but I'm just telling
you here's a reason why you ought to restrict your
kids internet access or at least be very cognitively aware
of what they're doing, because the digital space today is
truly controlled by these globalist elites, and I think they're

(23:06):
actively seeking the destruction of the family. I think they're
trying to normalize degenerate behavior, and of course I think
it goes without saying the systematic dismantling of religion. Now,
let me just repeat that again and then you tell
me what is it that I'm describing. If you're trying

(23:26):
to destroy the nuclear family, you're trying to normalize degenerate behavior,
and you're systematically trying to dismantle religion. Those are three
basic tenets of what Marxism. Yes, those are the very
tenets of Marxism. So these globalist elites who control these they,

(23:49):
I mean, they themselves may be useful idiots and not
even realize that what they're perpet you know, perpetuating is Marxism,
but indeed that's what they're doing. This is just a
simple reminder to, you know, special attention to your children,
because if we neglect them, predators are all too eager
to capture their attention online and just corrupt their innocence.

(24:13):
There's not much else to say about the story except
that when when you realize just how bad it's gotten,
I mean, what is this stem from? This stems from me? Now,
let me just paint you the picture. So last night,
we go to dinner with friends, have a really nice
time at dinner. We come back home, you know, everybody's

(24:36):
kind of settling down, and everybody's kind of winding down.
There's something on Netflix or something on the television, and
I'm thinking, you know, I just got to check the
news and see what's happening, you know, before I come
on air this morning. And so, you know, because as
I say, I'm always doing show prep and I just
stumble upon because I'm watching a video that is clearly

(24:57):
to me generated by AI somehow, and it reminds me
of the story that I did yesterday morning on air
about how artificial or this Molly Ball writing about you know,
Donald Trump is telling us stuff that has just blatantly
false and it's misleading and clearly has an agenda. And

(25:18):
I'm thinking, holy cow, just everything I see now is
just I have to challenge everything. If I walk outside,
you know, when I finish the program today and the
sky's blue, I may have to think to myself, is
it really? Maybe I need to double check why? Why
is the sky blue today? That's how weird it's gotten.
And so then I you know, so then I kind

(25:39):
of finished show prep and I'm just kind of okay,
let's quickly run through you know, X and Facebook and
see what's going on there. And I see the video
about the base jumper, and it's clear to me that
that is a video produced by artificial intelligence. So I'm
thinking if if you can produce that kind of video,

(26:02):
which if you were just a drive by consumer of
that video and you weren't really actually thinking about what
you were watching, you'd say, wow, that's beautiful, that's fascinating,
that's really oh, look at that base jumper. And then
when you start analyzing what you're watching, in other words,
when you actually start actively thinking about what you're watching
you realize, well, that can't possibly be real, and then

(26:25):
you start diving into it a little deeper and deeper
and deeper, which is what happened to me. And so
then that leads me down to the whole thing about
how far have we advanced with AI in terms of visuals,
chat bots, you know, producing whatever we're going to produce
with AI. And I stumble across again the Wall Street

(26:48):
Journal about how we're using artificial intelligence to well, let's
put it this way, to groom children. Now, I'm not
I want to emphasize, I'm not saying that if you
happen to be gay or lesbian that that's degenerate behavior.

(27:08):
But I'm just simply saying that, whatever the sexual preference is,
do we really want children under the age of you know,
do we want six years old, six year olds, eight
year olds or whatever being exposed to homosexuality, let alone heterosexuality. No,
I don't really want them exposed to sexuality at all. Yet,
And then we wonder why we have kids that ostensibly

(27:32):
have genderness, for you, because they're being probably told by
artificial intelligence that, well, you should question your own sex.
That's degenerate, That is truly degenerate. So the challenge is,
and you know, I know the demo demographics of this audience,

(27:53):
and some of you have children and some of you don't,
but you know, many of you might have grandchildren. Whatever
the situation is, you really need to be aware of this,
think about it, and make certain that whatever's going on,
and again your sphere of influence, that you're at least
aware that this is going on. And that Mark Zuckerberg,

(28:15):
while I you know, maybe at some point he'll be
get his buttouled before Congress and ask about this, but
I think it leads to the conclusion that artificial intelligence
can be absolutely a wonderful thing, can really advance society,
and just like everything else, there's a bad side to
it too, So just be aware of it. It's the

(28:36):
Weekend with Michael Brown. Text any question or comment you
have to this number on your message app three three
one zero three, use the keyword Mike or Michael. Do
me a favor, Go follow me on X formerly Twitter.
It's at Michael Brown USA. I'll be right back. Hey,
welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
So the.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Dodgers have committed one million dollars to assist families of
illegal immigrants, but particular illegal immigrants those that have been
impacted by recent immigration reads in southern California. They announced
this back sometime yesterday. The funding is intended for direct
financial assistance to support families that are affected by the events.

(29:24):
So what events are we talking about? Oh, the raids,
Oh the attempts by immigrations and Customs enforcement to identify
criminal illegal aliens. You know, the dirt bags that have
committed rapes, robberies, murders, have you know, been dealing drugs,

(29:45):
engaged in human trafficking, sex trafficking, all of them. So
the LA Dodgers are going to give a million dollars
to families who have been affected by that. Now you
can decide whatever you want to decide about, whether that's
a good idea or a bad idea. But if if
a family knows, as like in the Sopranos, we all

(30:09):
know what Dad did, We all know what Tony Soprano did,
but we didn't talk about it. There's an Italian restaurant
in Denver that used to be owned by a mob family,
and in the bathroom they've got the rules of the mob.
And one is a couple of rules are you never
talk business, you know, with the family, and you never

(30:29):
involve the family in the business. Well, all right, If
the LA Dodgers are going to provide direct financial assistance
in one million dollars, and they're going to do it
in partnership both with the City of LA and with
organizations like the California Community Foundations and the Los Angeles
County Federation of Labor. Well, the announcement came after the

(30:54):
Dodgers denied federal agents identified by the team as ICE
but later clarified by Department of Homeland Security as actually
Customs and Border Protection. But you say potato, I say patato.
It is the same thing. They were denied access to
the stadium parking lots on June nineteenth. Now, before you

(31:16):
start throwing at me, well, Michael, the Dodger's parking lots
are private property. Yes, that's right. And if law enforcement
wants to come on to my porch, they have a
right to do that. They don't have a right to
come into the house. So I would argue they don't
have a right to go into the stadium, but they

(31:37):
have a right to go into the parking lot. Now,
maybe they didn't pay What if they had paid. Hey,
you know, here's my I don't know how much Dodger
parking is, but here's my fifty bucks. It's outrageous in Denver.
Here here's my fifty bucks. So yeah, come on, come
on now. Some will characterize that as direct payments to

(31:59):
undocumented immigrants, and some staves a betrayal of American citizens.
Some save its publicity stunt, but regardless, the initiative aligns
with their response to community pressure, especially from the large
Latino fan base, to address the impact of lawful enforcement

(32:21):
of immigration law in Los Angeles, where nearly half the
population identifies as Latino. But on the other hand, the supporters,
including Mayor Karen Bass and lots of community leaders, are
praising the Dodgers for taking a stand against the raids,
economic and social toil getting rid. If dad is engaged,

(32:48):
if that is a murderer from a foreign country, sucks
to be you, But dad should be in prison, and
the set aside for a moment with the inmnerreation status
because this really bugs me because people really pull at
other people's heart strings. Oh you're going to break up
the family. Oh my gosh, you're going to take dad

(33:10):
away from the family. Well, wait a minute, if setting again,
setting aside the immigration status of any family, I don't
care whether in the country legally or illegally. If you're
a convicted murderer, or you're engaged in sex trafficking or
drug dealing, or rape or robbery or assault and battery
or anything else, the likelihood that you're going to go

(33:31):
spend time in jail means that you're going to be
ripped apart from your family, and Dad's not going to
be at home. And so why are we suddenly so
heartbroken for these families when a family member has engaged
in criminal activity. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.
The rage which are part of the broader immigration crackdown

(33:54):
under Trump, are sparking these protests and criticism because they're
targeting non criminal workers and separating families. Well, if you're
truly non criminal, that's implying that coming into the country
is not illegal. Well, it is illegal to come into
the country undocumented and without the proper authority, the proper visas,

(34:18):
the proper approvals or whatever. And it actually becomes a
felony if you come into the country once illegally, leave
even come back again. That turns into a felony. The
truth is now, the Dodgers are not technically paying over
a million dollars the illegal aliens in the sense of
direct cash handouts to undocumented and individuals, but they are

(34:40):
allocating a million bucks to support immigrant families affected by
the raids. And they're doing through all these community organizations
without specifying the recipient's legal status. It just I think
shows that we need to somehow figure out quickly what

(35:02):
we're going to do with the whatever number you want
to pick out. And I want to distinguish between criminal
illegal aliens, people who have come here illegally, but they've
been here for twenty or thirty years, they have had children.
Because the children of those illegal aliens, whether we like
it or not. Quite Frankly, I don't like it because

(35:23):
I think that birthright citizenship is something that we should
not have. But that's not up to me right now.
But those kids actually do have citizenship until the Supreme
Court or Congress says otherwise. That's the fact we have
to deal with. So what do we do with those families?
You see, I think the Overton window has shifted. I

(35:44):
think Trump has probably purposely and inadvertently shifted the Overton window,
so that now the entire political discussion is, yes, we
want to get rid of the criminal, illegal aliens, and
they're doing a bang up job of doing that. And
sometimes they make mistakes, yes, but that occurs in all
law enforcement. There's no law enforcement agency on the face

(36:08):
of the earth that is perfect will always get everything right.
So I'm going to accept the mistakes will be made.
But at some point we have to shift the conversation
because assuming you were able to get rid of all
the illegal, criminal, illegal aliens, what do we then do
with those so called dreamers. I know there are hard

(36:29):
nosed people, probably even with this audience, that say that
they ought to be sent back really because legally under
our laws, because they were born here, even though to
an illegal alien, they are nonetheless citizens. At some point
we have to really have an honest discussion about that,

(36:50):
and I don't think most people want to, and I
think this whole Dodgers thing stirs up that question. It's
the weekend with Michael Brown. The text lines always open.
That number on your message gap is three three one
zero three. Use the keyword Mike or Michael. We'll be
right back.