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July 17, 2025 • 27 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seriously, Michael, I have a hard time reconciling that I'm
on the same side of the political fence as the
caller who called in and said he'd rather sit on
his hands while the country burns, just because the guy
we put in office is doing a good job as
a giant pos I thought we knew who we were
voting for when we put annoying orange and office in
the first place.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Come on, peoples, or this tea I like that yes?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Or this text message Gouber twenty fifty nine. Michael Friend
said it well in response to people screaming about Trump's
mean tweets and other such things. Quote I'm not asking
Trump to teach my kids Sunday school class. I'm asking
him to make the hard decisions to get our nation
back on track. Close quote Bingo or ninety seven, ninety eight,

(00:51):
who writes Michael. There was an interview in twenty nineteen
when prosecuting attorney Bradley Edward, who represented Epstein victims, said
that in two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine,
when the prosecution was calling people about Jeffrey Epstein, Donald J.
Trump was the only one who talked to them. No

(01:12):
other elites would talk. I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
You look at the Drudge Report right now, and I
know it's left leaning, don't get me wrong, but this,
let's see what some of these stories come from. Nate Silver,
left wing Nate Silver. This comes from Politico, The New Republic, NBC,

(01:39):
New York Times, The Hill and The Hill, and of
course the main headline on Drudge right now from Yahoo.
It's a Maga divorce. Here are the subheads. Republican pressure
mounting for Epstein files release, Uproar puts spotlight on Bongino.

(02:01):
Bondi's survival remains open question. Ghislaine pardon, Justice Department fires
her prosecutor. I was going to talk about that. I
decided not to. Uh, well, maybe a Trump is trapped.
Lumer delivers searing warning. Laura Lumer, sixty nine percent of
Americans believe details are being concealed. Polling numbers plunge. You

(02:25):
may think it's a dead horse, but that dead horse
is alive and kicking. It's alive and kicking. So back
to the real issue. And I think this, I think
the whole Epstein case is just a sub issue. It's
the Republican Party. Niga however you want to label it

(02:49):
is a populist movement. We have for decades now suffered
under this elitism that says, somehow government knows better for
you the choices you should make, They can make them
better than you can. And it's just blossom this mushroom

(03:09):
like a nuclear explosion, to the point where we're all
fed up with it. And the example I gave the
last hour was the whole thing about qualified investments in
a startup, which, again, don't get me wrong, I think
there should be I think capital Have you ever thought

(03:32):
about the stupidity of capital games?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
So you save you earned some Let's say you earn money.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
You're a shlub like me, and you work for a paycheck.
So you save some of that paycheck, and you think, now,
how could I put that? You know, the money I've saved,
How can I put that to work for me?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think I will put in a savings account. Well,
right now, unless you've got at a minimum five thousand
dollars to invest, you might get four point four percent.
Or you might say maybe I'll put it in an
index fund and in the stock exchange one of the exchanges,

(04:18):
or you put it into a well, no, a CD
would just be interested. But you put it in some
sort of equity where you are. You know, maybe you've
got some friend that wants to do a startup, and
you buy into his startup, and so you've saved money,
and now you've invested that money so that money can

(04:38):
go go to work, to create other jobs, to create
other businesses. And then you get a return on that investment,
and you get taxed on that. You get taxed on
you get taxed for savings. It's like me sitting with
the stock gains in my brokerage account that I mean,

(05:00):
I don't need to, but I'd like to. I'd like
to catch some of that stock out just because maybe
I you know, maybe for uh, she's not listening right now,
so maybe for a surprise, I just want to take
some money out and take camera to Paris, or take

(05:20):
her to I don't know, Guatemala, El Saladora, Honduras, take
her there. You know, see how the other half lives.
I don't want to pay the capital gains on it.
I don't want to sell that. And then let's just
say I pull out one thousand dollars. So now I've
got to set aside of the thousand dollars, I've got
to set aside two hundred and fifty dollars at a

(05:42):
minimum to pay the capital gains on it. Well, that's
just stupid. You're punishing me for investing in companies that
have grown and produced more jobs and produce more for
the economy. Or I've invested in a startup company going
to create new jobs and is going to start an

(06:03):
entire new industry we hadn't even thought about yet, and
you're punishing me for doing that. Or I buy a home.
I buy a home and I pay property taxes on it,
which I think is an abomination. But then I pay
off my mortgage. I have a property that's mortgage free,

(06:26):
but I still owne property taxes, which makes the question
do you ever really own anything? Do you ever really
own private property? No, because it's always going to be taxed.
So how about you know, I would argue selfishly, how
about once seniors have lived in their home and they
turn sixty five, or they turn seventy, or I don't care,

(06:48):
pick a random year, and you no longer pay property taxes.
Why why shouldn't they just be able to own their
home outright and just cover the cost of maintenance, new
time kees and just living there. Oh no, we can't
do that because you know we need that money. Well, yeah,

(07:09):
guess what they need that money too. I'm fortunate enough
that I can afford to pay my property taxes. Do
I like paying it?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
It pisses me off. It's like who owns this home?
Do I own this home? Or does the county own
the home? Well, John Stossel, and.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
If you want to check out that video, go to
Michael says, go here dot com. Michael says, go here
dot com.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
And then when I walked back in the studio after
the break, I heard this news story.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
The wolves brought into Colorado are multiplier.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Colorado Parks and Wildlife says three new wolf packs have
formed since the state brought in fifteen wolves at the
start of the year. CPW has named the packs and
has an idea of where each is located. The One
Ear pack is in Jackson County, The King Mountain pack
roams Route County, the Three Creeks Pack is in Real
Blanco County, and the original Copper Creek pack remains in

(08:04):
Pitkin County. No word yet on how many pups are
in each pack.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Reporter Brenda Stewart, Hmm, what's interesting.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
The reason that story caught my ear was because, well,
last night, in looking for a local story to do
about for the Michael Brown Minute, I ran across the
exact same story in The Colorado Sun, except I've got
a slightly different take on it because I have the
actual story in front of me. See if you can

(08:35):
figure out what was kind of not said, or to
put it kindly kind of glossed over, Here's the Colorado
Sun story. Colorado's wolf population grew this spring with the
formation of three new packs. The state designated the new
wolf families as the One Ear Pack in Jackson County,

(08:56):
the King Mountain Pack and Route County, and the Three
Creeks Pack in Real blancle Ca. They joined the Copper
Creek pac which formed in Grand County last year and
has moved to Pitkin County in January. Well that's a
lot of work going on for a bunch of damn
wolves that no longer existed in Colorado, isn't it. But
the story continues. The new pack designations were mentioned in

(09:16):
a Wolf Update slide show presentation, which was included in
the online agenda for an upcoming Parks and Wildlife Commission
meeting today for today. The Colorado Sun then reports color
Up Parks and Wildlife has not announced how many pups

(09:39):
have been confirmed in each of the new packs. Last year,
the agency did not name the Copper Creek Pack until
the pups were confirmed. Earlier this year, CPW said it
was monitoring as many as four potential dens for new pups.
Color Up Parks and Wildlife spokesperson Monday confirmed the newly

(10:01):
designated packs, Sin said the agency would not share more
information about them until the commission meeting today. The spokesperson
Luke Perkins beanie Weenie, a bureaucrat you're paying for, told
the Colorado Sun this. Until that presentation has been delivered,

(10:22):
Colorado Parks and Wildlife will not have any additional information available.
Colorado Parks and Wildlife recognizes packs only after a breeding
pair of wolves have reproduced in late spring. Once the
pack has been officially recognized, it is generally named after
the geographical area where it has set up its territory.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think that's bull crap.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
I think, look, do they want to confirm that they
actually have pups? Probably so, but they want to put
off that information as long as possible, because they don't
want you and I to know exactly how hmm profligate
these are in reproducing, kind of like bunny rabbits. Then

(11:11):
the subhead the proof is in the puppy. Oh how
clever wolf advocates celebrated the news that more wolves in
the state have had pups. Rob Edward of the Rocky
Mountain Wolf Project said, they're vital the pups. The pups
are vital to achieving a self sustaining population. Quote, we

(11:36):
are putting a lot of money into going and fetching wolves,
and meaning taxpayers, taxpayers are putting a lot of money
into going and fetching wolves and bringing them back here
and releasing them in male and female quantities. Well, that
seems to be discriminatory. What about the gay wolves. You
might have a gay gray wolf or a grey gay wolf.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't know it. Will it take possible pairing. The
proof is in the puppy.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
This speaks volumes about the success of this historic effort.
I have question serious questions about this.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Michael.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Property taxes are im moral, immral. They're just flat out immral.
There is no reason for you to not own your
own home. Outright, you always are a slave to government.
That is immoral.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I think Kathleen was trying to tell us that property
taxes are immoral.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
I wasn't picking that up. But if that's what you
got from it, great, well.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I just you know, I was half assed listening. Bud.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
You say, huh eighty two oh two?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Rights.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I paid my house off in nineteen eighty six, fourteen.
That's thirty nine years ago. I paid my house off
in nineteen eighty six. I have had to pay property
taxes all these years, at a rough estimate of two
thousand dollars a year in property taxes, I have now
paid more improperty tax than I paid for the house

(13:23):
in nineteen eighty yeahs thirty two ninety three. Michael, you
talk about taxes, especially those on the senior how about
the taxes on Social Security or SSD. Isn't that just
taxing tax money? Yes, it's taxing tax money. Do you

(13:47):
know who we have to ultimately blame for that? Ronald Reagan?
And by the way, speaking of the obqbe the one
big beautiful bill. I thought that there was a promise
no tax taxes on Social Security. Well guess what, there
are still taxes on Social Security. So it's interesting every

(14:10):
every time you hear Trump or any congressman talk about, oh, yeah,
you know, we passed no taxes on tips, and we passed,
you know, no taxes in overtime, and they never talk
about no taxes on Social Security. All they did was
they increased the standard deduction and they excluded part of
Social Security income. Actually I shouldn't even call it social

(14:34):
Security income. It's a repayment of the taxes that you've
already paid in, but only a portion of those taxes.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
They're there's so.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Much wrong, so much wrong with our tax system, and
we just don't We just let.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Them get by with it, and it drives me nuts.
Back to the color Sun.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
So the headline on the Sun article was three new
gray wolf packs have established in Colorado, and of course
then that makes the local news and it appears or
you hear it in our top of the hour news.
And it seemed to me that there was a slight
different tone than what was what you heard, than what

(15:26):
the actual story says, because the story talks about how
CPW does not want to release the details until they're
meeting today, about how many pups there are, and it
completely ignores what I think is the crux of the
entire story, and that is the statement by Rob Edward

(15:47):
of the Rocky Mountain Wolf Project that said these pups
are vital to achieving a self sustaining population. He says,
we are put in a lot of money into going
and fetching wolves taxpayers are and bringing them back here
and releasing them in male and female quantities that facilitate

(16:10):
possible pairing. The proof is in the pupping. This speaks
volumes about the success of this historic effort. So as
I said, I've got serious questions. Honestly, who cares? Can

(16:31):
I other than I'll get to the farmers and ranchers
in just a second. But insofar as re establishing gray
wolves in the state of Colorado, I don't give a
fly an f I don't. It does not in any
major minor dominus dominimus in any way affect my life

(16:54):
whatsoever other than it's costing me money. My life has not.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Changed at all.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I cannot tell you either any observable difference or any
unobservable difference in my life. And you know what, neither
can you. Your life has not changed at all. The
ecosystem of this state has not changed for the better

(17:26):
at all. This is a pet project of the first gentleman,
Marlon Reese, who, by the way, I don't think eats meat,
or maybe, to be more specific, doesn't eat wolves. I
don't think these.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Wolves animal protein. Doesn't.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
He doesn't eat animals. Thank you, mister producer. You are
actually paying attention, and you put it in words that
actually allow me.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
To skate by skate by right. He doesn't eat.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Animal milk, would be like a animal protein, yeah, almost solids?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yes, okay, I think, as I try to picture in
my mind, I think that would be technically correct.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
He does not eat animal solids.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
His eggs are liquid, but you can boil them and
make it kind of a snide.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
But you have to transform the egg into a solid,
which other animal protein does not necessarily. I don't think.
I've never tried, but I don't think you can convert
it to a solid.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
So I don't know. Good luck with it? What good
luck trying? Though? No, I don't think I will. I
don't think I will. Uh.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
This is just a pet project, That's all this is.
But some lives have changed. At least The Colorado Sun
sort of admits that they write. Colorado's wolf restoration has
also generated controversy.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
No feac Sherlock really.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Several ranchers have recently called for the removal of the
Copper Creek Pack near Snow Mass following several attacks on
livestock last spring. At the commission meeting last month, we
talked about this. Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commissioner tied Jakobra,
a rancher who lives in the area of the attacks,
attempted to call a vote to remove the pack, calling
them bad animals. Oh Marlon crawled into the fetal position

(19:36):
and cried, never say bad dog, Never say bad wolf.
They're not bad animals, They're just misunderstood. The vote was
ruled out of voter and the Commission did not take
any action after other commissioners raised concerns about intervening in
decisions usually made by the.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Colorado Parks and Wildlife biologists.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Now, despite the recent depredations, said his organization.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Is proud of the restoration efforts.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
The reality is a majority of wolves on the ground
or out there not getting into conflict, which means they're
out there eating elk and deer, and they're doing exactly
what wolves are supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
How long do we go without wolves in Colorado?

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I honestly don't know, but decades at decades at a minimum,
and life went on. Hunters hunted deer and elk. Plenty
of people had venison to eat, and ranchers maybe worried
occasionally about a rabid coyote or something. But no, no, no,

(20:46):
not a coyote bringing illegal aliens over, like a real,
you know, animal coyote. The first group was released in
December of twenty twenty three. The second group from bc
HE was released in January.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
The news of the.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Newly formed pack comes weeks after a string of deaths
of Colorado's reintroduced wolves. Six have died this year. I
just don't care. In fact, there's a part of me
that says, I really don't give a rest as if
they all die, including Wolf twenty five oh five BC,

(21:25):
a male from British Columbia, killed by federal agents in
Wyoming after an attack sheep, and Wolf twenty four oh
five s yearling mail from Copper Creek pack that was
shot in May by Colorado Wildlife officers attempting to upset
a pattern of attacks on cattle in Pitkin County. They're

(21:49):
killing cattle. They don't want to tell you how many
new pops have been born. Marlon Reese is all excited because.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
We got puppies. We have puppies. This state is so
full of dumbasses.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Paul Betty does eat animal protein, two teaspoons.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Worth at a time, like honey.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Like we put honey on an English muffin like that,
moving right along.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
One of the.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
A little bit of honey, a little bit of grape
jelly on an English muffin, toasted delicious.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
One of the reasons that the country's been subjected to
this foreign invasion is that grasping these illegal aliens from
the Third World that flood into sanctuary states like Colorado.
What does it do Well, it increases the power of
Democrats even when they don't vote, which obviously some do

(22:58):
before they're even legalized. Well, how's that because it increases
the population of those states, and therefore it increases the
important the apportionment of congressional representation. The more people, the
more congressmen you're gonna get. Now, for those of you
who never took civics, no matter what your population is,
you still get only two US Senators brilliant design by

(23:22):
the founders. But here's an idea that I think smart, sensible,
law abiding, rational people.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Which probably excludes just about everybody.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I think we'll love this idea as much as Democrats
hate it. Let's just stop counting illegal aliens as part
of the population. Seems pretty simple, doesn't it. Congressman Marjorie
Taylor Green, the Republican from Georgia, plans to introduce a
bill that would require a new sense that only counts

(24:01):
US citizens, the results of which would be utilized in
determining how many seats each state is allotted. I haven't
read the bill yet. I would argue that, well, you
know what, if you want to do account of just
how many people are living in the country at any
given time, then do two questions or one question? Are

(24:26):
you or are is everyone living in your house? You know,
because you have to tell me people are living in
your house, how many are citizens and how many are
non citizens? And then only those that are citizens actually
get to vote, which would require obviously proving your citizenship

(24:46):
when you go register to vote. No more you know,
drive by registration, no more motor voter registration, no more
just you know, hey, show up and vote that day,
Go in and prove that you're a US citizen. If
you have to have a real ID to fly, why
not have a real ID to vote? Which is more important,

(25:09):
voting or flying? I don't know, but in my world
it's voting. The measure would require proof of American citizenship
in order to vote in federal elections. Now why because well,
states are in charge of their own elections. But put
the pressure on by starting at the federal level. She

(25:33):
said that the issue is a matter of national concert
of national security. She asserts the Democrats would love non
citizens to have a right to vote, and would love
amnesty for all, and would essentially allow for a world
takeover of the United States. I would argue that she's
absolutely correct on every single count.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Single People who are not urely in this country are
not counted in the census, the descient census, which is
done over ten years.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (26:06):
Okay, so this has been a major issue for many people.
The census is done every ten years and it counts
the population, and that is written in our constitution. However,
how our house district lines are created based off the
population counted in the census, as well as our electoral
College votes. But now that we've had decades and especially

(26:29):
the past four years of our country basically being invaded
with tens of millions of people from all over the world,
Americans don't feel like they're represented in Washington. So I
have a bill that calls for a new census. It
does count the population, However, it has a second count,
and that's counting American citizens only. The second part of

(26:49):
the bill calls for new reapportionment, so district lines would
be drawn based on the count of American citizens only.
That way, American citizens are represented in Washington.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
D C.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
And then the third thing my bill calls for is
when anyone goes to vote in a federal election, they
have they're required to show proof of citizenship when they
show up to vote.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Bingo. And we have majorities past. The damn bill m
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