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July 2, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming back at two previous talkbacks. First of all, Ryan
is one of the best. He and Michael have the
two best shows on k j W well in Denver.
And then second that guy from Pavilion with the birds
in the background. I think those birds could be used
to feed that other guy's hungry cat.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, I want to go back. I can't believe we
missed this and it slipped through the cracks.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
But Senator Michael Bennett, Uh, he got into a shotting
match with the Scott Bessant.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Bennett versus Bessent. Now this is from June twelfth. Again,
how did I miss this? But he decides to go
on this rampage and as Comrade Kyle says, he's like
a cicada. He comes out every thirteen years. This must
be that year we did not get here.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
We inherited this physical situation that I believe, well you
inherited for Donald Trump? Was your you did you? No, yes,
you did miss you inherited from Donald Trump. He's the
first president to come back after a four year hiatus
after we know exactly what the last tax cuts did,

(01:14):
which was blown a massive hole in our deficit of dead.
You can't sit here and lie about that.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's true.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
The data.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Do you point a phrase, the data shows that that's result.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
The math shows that that is the result.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
No one on this side of the isle admits anymore
that or or or claims anymore that they didn't blow
a huge hole in deficit.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
They did.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
And now you're here saying to the American people, let's
double down on that.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
The councilor Mackie comparison, Leland and I used to joke
about it is so spot on or.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, okay, sit here and lie.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
So he goes all Ted Cruz on Scott Bessett. But
he's not done. He's not done.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
We're gonna give tax cuts for the wealthy. We are
going to give tax cuts again to the wealthiest people
in America, and we are going to finance it on
the backs of the sons and daughters of teachers and
firefighters and police officers all over this country because we
can't pay for it, because the Treasurer secretary discovered somehow

(02:25):
that domestic distruction spending is only fifteen percent of the
budget and therefore you can't balance it there.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So he's turning up the volume. I'll have it be
known the firefighters the police officers he's talking about. You
know who one hundred percent of those unions that represent
those hard workers in the front lines for us every day.
Do you know who they voted for, who they represented,
who they endorsed Donald Trump? And it wasn't just that

(02:54):
Scott Best. And he sits there and he takes that
Bennett's rant and raving and hooton, hollerin, and Bessie just
calmly delivers the dagger and body bags Bennett here figuratively, rhetorically. Well,
so we had a referendum on November fifth, hear it.
I agree with you your side, boss, I agree with that.
And a higher.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Decimin rare democrat who doesn't blame Donald Trump for winning.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'm sad, he one. I don't blame level. Don't come
here in your statements.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Go ahead, have veracity, go ahead mission what clear decibel
level does not give your statements more voracity? My statements
are true, if that's the word is actually mean by veracity,
My statements are true.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You blew a massive hole in.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
The deficit when your predecessor was sitting here under Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
And so the.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Question is we think, is something better to do with
the money then this money then drive up interest trades,
lose money by borrowing money from our kids. So the
richest people in America can get a tax to when
they don't need it.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
That is the reality of your play. Well the Democrats,
have you believe that these billionaires they just collect money
and they sit on it like Scrooge McDuck duck tails,
and they don't reinvest in the economy, and they don't
build businesses and create jobs, and they don't make the
economy churn, and they don't invest in Wall Street, and
they don't make it. This is foolishness, obviously, But Michael

(04:22):
Bennett just tko at the hands of Scott Besson there,
speaking of which our next guest, now, I believe he'll
have a sense of humor about this, but there is,
and I'll play it maybe sometime. William Shatner gets into
it with a producer and this is some famous audio
footage in which he's trying to cut this promo for
a space themed show and he reads through it and

(04:43):
he thinks he's done well. Then the producer steps in
and says, oh.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Mister Shatner, could you put a little more emphasis on
this word?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
And it goes south from there in a hurry. Howard
Stern lampooned it, and Jimmy Sangenberger put himself right in
the crosshairs for William Shatner, and Bill was a little
c to Jimmy despite setting him straight. You got to
hear this.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
You're coming to Fan Expo Denver. I've been there the
last few years, very excited to have you. When you
go to a convention like this, what does that mean
to you personally and professionally and in particular as well?
What role have they really had over the last coming
up next year sixty years and helping to keep Star
Trek not just alive, but thriving.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Okay, so you know what that's called it that's called
a compound question.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
It is.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
See, I'm trying to narrow a couple of a million questions.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
I don't know where to start. I don't know, Jimmy,
let me talk. That's part of the interview. I don't
know where to start to answer that question. What does
it mean to me? I did these comic cons because
I meet the fans and I've just come off. For example,
this weekend, I was in tae Kwondaroga, upstate New York,

(05:54):
which holding chip talkase that's an Indian term for like
a conversation. And I'd be in front of and I
did this seven or eight times this weekend, be in
front of an audience of fifty sixty seventy people and
start a conversation like what do you do and why
do you do that? And so many incredible things happen
between the fans and myself. It's gotten to the point

(06:17):
where the fans in Taekwonderoga come to Taekwonderoga because they've
heard but an extraordinary time. That hour an hour and
a half that we have between me and the fans
of the audience is an extraordinary eye opening time in
terms of revelation. And that's what I just did this weekend.

(06:38):
I will do that this coming weekend on a limited basis.
I think once on Thursday, for I'm not sure where.
I'll stand in front of the audience and tell stories
or take questions and provoke and invoke the audience's response.
And I mean, we have a great time, and then

(06:59):
I'll autographs and while I'm so signing, I'll talk and
then there's pictures, and then there's all these other people,
not me, but addressed him costumes walking around and it's
just joyful time. So I urge your audience come down
to the comic on on Thursday and Friday and Friday,
and I'll be there and I'd love to see y'all, folks.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
The legendary William Shatner turns ninety four years old in March.
Did you hear him just now? Joe Biden is twelve
years younger than William Shatner at eighty two. How do
you explain that difference. Let's turn to Jimmy Sangenberger and
ask him. Jimmy, what a thrill of a lifetime they'll

(07:43):
getting to interview Captain Kirk.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
You know what to be gently.

Speaker 9 (07:49):
Corrected by Captain Kirk himself.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Is one of the great memories of my life.

Speaker 9 (07:54):
We gotta tell you that, thanks brother, Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
And how do you explain how sharp he was? He
followed your question? You asked him this is he found
a compound question, a two parter, and he took it apart.
In parts. He talks about this Indian word for conversations.
He's in tykwon to roga. He's describing what he's going
to do at Comic Con this guy's ninety four.

Speaker 9 (08:18):
Well exactly, that's the thing. He's just as sharp as
can be. I remember seeing him, what a month or
so ago he was on Fox News with Jesse Waters yep,
and remember it was all the discussion about, you know,
Trump wanting to make Canada the fifty first state, and
there's Shatner redirecting the conversation and saying something to the

(08:39):
effective lives in the United States should become Canada's eleventh province.

Speaker 8 (08:44):
It was just sheer, brilliant.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
But I asked him.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
Another question related to his role as Captain Kirk, and
he turns it into a segway directly going to an
album he's producing, another one of his because he loves
to produce these musical albums, and he's putting out manages
a brilliantly with a masterstroke saidway directly to promoting one

(09:07):
of his upcoming projects. I mean, it is remarkably impressive,
and as a vague star Trek fan, it was an
incredible treat to get to interview him alongside Mandy Connell
on KOA Yesterday.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
He's a rock it man. William Shatner an epic interview.
If you can listen to the whole thing online podcast forum,
but Jimmy Singerberg able to line that one up and
Comic On coming up? When is that again?

Speaker 9 (09:33):
Fanexpro Denver is this Thursday through funding at Yes, Shatner
will be He'll be doing pokographs of folks and autographs.
Andrew will also be, as he said, speaking and answering
questions on Friday at noon. I'll definitely be there, and
I think we're going to see somebody who is going

(09:53):
to be as fluid at answering audience questions in person
as you just heard him with me.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
He's phenomen And that's this week on holiday weekend. You
need some plans there you go Comic Con, William Shattner,
Captain Kirk, Jimmy Sangnberger, he'll be there. You can follow
him an ex at Saying Center, Seng Center. Ce on
Ter his latest for the Denver Gazette, entitled Epic Ruling
vindicates a Colorado judge. Jimmy, take us from there and
what should we know about it?

Speaker 8 (10:21):
So this is interesting.

Speaker 9 (10:22):
Last week, you'll remember the big case that everybody was
going in the media apoplectic.

Speaker 8 (10:27):
Oh my gosh, how in the world could.

Speaker 9 (10:30):
They go after birthright citizenship in the US Supreme Court
on a case that.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Had nothing to actually do with.

Speaker 9 (10:37):
The question of birthright citizenship and the Fourteenth Amendment, and
instead have everything.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
To do with this.

Speaker 9 (10:45):
Trend in recent years toward nationwide for universal injunctions, where
a lot of times a plaintiff will forum shop looking
around for a court.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
That they can go to in a state that's.

Speaker 8 (10:59):
Going to be more In this case right now in particular.

Speaker 9 (11:03):
We're bringing for the courts or maybe more conservative, depending
and they'll find that that court in the US district
court system that.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Will help them be able to get a.

Speaker 9 (11:16):
Stop to something say that President Trump is doing, whether
that's an executive order on birthright citizenship or on saying
immigration enforcement. Which brings me to something really interesting. You'll remember,
Ryan I was in court in March offering and hearing.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
That happened with a US District judge.

Speaker 9 (11:38):
Daniel Domenico, was a case brought by Denver Public schools
against the Department of Homeland Security trying to stop them
from basically enforcing immigration laws in Denver by acting as
though a Trump policy regarding schools was substantially different from

(11:59):
a Biden and to make a long story short, the
column is really about how Judge Domenico approached rejecting the
requests from DPS for not just an injunction for Denver schools,
but for enforcement across the country, essentially setting up sanctuary

(12:21):
zones in cities all across the nation. And the judge,
Judge Domenico, said, no, I'm very hesitant in general on injunction,
the nationwide injunction, and he gained some words of caution
that basically were reflected in the majority six to three
decision written by US Supreme Court Justice Aiming Coney Barrett

(12:46):
last week. And I just found it really interesting the
corollaryan connection with this Colorado case where a judge here
got it right.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Jimmy Sangberg gets it right in his article you can
read more about it. Epic ruling vindicates a Colorado judge
in the Denver Gazad and again on X He's a
good follow at Saying Center, SCNNG Center, cen Teer Jimmy,
great stuff as always, especially the highlight clips from William
Shatner the thrill of a lifetime. Thanks for sharing that

(13:16):
with us too.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
Hey, yeah, absolutely right.

Speaker 9 (13:19):
And wait a second, Wait a second, I got a
gig coming out.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, well, tell us more about it quickly? Can we
plug that?

Speaker 9 (13:28):
The Jimmy Junior Blues Band will be performing this Independence
Day weekend on Saturday night, so you got your Fourth
of July pran.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Stick with them.

Speaker 8 (13:38):
But the next evening come out to.

Speaker 9 (13:40):
Golden in the Zone Bar and Grill in the Zone Bargro.
We're playing from seven to eleven pm. Very excited to
be out. It's our first gig. We did that pro
police rally Ryan, you're at that one a couple months back.
We've been lining up some gigs for the summer and fall,
and that kicks off this Saturday in the Zone and

(14:01):
then we'll also be on Sunday, three pm July twenty seventh, we.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Will be at the Genesee Bob.

Speaker 8 (14:10):
And Barbecue as well.

Speaker 9 (14:12):
So some good times coming with the Jimmy Junior Blues Band.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Looking forward to the Jimmy Sangenberger will be your guest
host tomorrow on this very program. And thankfully for him,
he didn't get this William Shatner treatment.

Speaker 10 (14:26):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century. So take the next few minutes and listen
very closely. You'll be amazed at what you hear.

Speaker 11 (14:39):
Okay, you can be a little more excitement in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I love it.

Speaker 12 (14:49):
Okay, all right, really laid you'll well, I'm I'm saying, okay,
I'll try do that.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's to take two.

Speaker 10 (15:04):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century. So take the next few minutes and listened
very closely. Well, speak up, and maybe you better do it.
Do it the way you hear it. Don't do it
for me, no, I mean, just go ahead.

Speaker 11 (15:25):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century. So take the next few minutes and listen
very closely.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
You'll be amazed at what you hear. Is that the
way you'd like me to do it?

Speaker 10 (15:39):
Okay, ready, this is William Shafner, and I would like
to invite you take a journey with me into the
twenty first century. So take the next few minutes and
listen very closely. You'll be amazed at what you hear. Okay,
I think that came pretty close. No, I'm no, No,

(16:02):
I was. I believe that you asked that was about
the way you did it.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I wasn't jesting. Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 13 (16:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, No, I insist.

Speaker 10 (16:12):
Now, what I want you to do is on page
Was that a satisfactory to you?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Maybe I should have just have my mouth shut, you.

Speaker 10 (16:20):
Know, because if your mouth were open, you got to
pop some pills in them. So do the next paragraph
on page two.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I really don't want to like you better. No, I
don't think I do.

Speaker 10 (16:34):
I would like to hear you read the second paragraph
so I can do it that way.

Speaker 11 (16:38):
You know, I really the first one.

Speaker 10 (16:42):
No, I like it better the way you did. Really,
I mean it. Please read so I can get an
idea of what you want.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
No.

Speaker 10 (16:50):
No, I'm going to do it the way you you
think it should go. No, I am going to do
it the way you're reading it. Okay, I know you're
here to see that I do it the way the
company wants it. So I'm going to do it the
way you read it.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
You do, but you're telling me how you want me
to do it.

Speaker 10 (17:09):
I'm no, no, no, I am going to do it
your way. No, there's no apology necessary. You you know
what you want. You know what you want.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I mean, you come in here and you don't know
what you want.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Well, come in here because.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I know you're a professional. I mean, and you know
how to do it. And I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (17:28):
No, I am going to do it the way you want,
every paragraph, and you'll send it back to town and you'll
see whether I hope it's it will please everybody else.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
As long as I'm pleasing you, that's all that mattered.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
What you please.

Speaker 11 (17:42):
You know, I don't feel right about doing your.

Speaker 10 (17:46):
Well, no, you felt you wanted something done on the
first paragraph. I'm trying to do what you want. Okay,
let's lay down the second paragraph.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Oh my goodness. William sat there. In that classic clip,
he went very easy on Jimmy Segenberger, who was a
little excited, understandably so in interviewing one of his childhood heroes. Jimmy,
you have to let me talk. That's part of the interview.
All right, full dose to Jimmy tomorrow. You still are

(18:16):
stuck with me going forward from today, though, plenty more
to get to, including your text. Send those along you
know the number thirty three, one oh three for the situation,
Ryan Schuling filling in.

Speaker 13 (18:26):
Mickel Are jimmy Er Ryan Star Trek two, Wrath of
Cohn the best Star Trek movie ever.

Speaker 14 (18:43):
Con Yes, little known maybe not a little known fact,
but fact about that movie. The uh protagonists and the
antagonist are never in the same room at the same time.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Is that Ricardo Montebon yep.

Speaker 14 (18:59):
One's on the you screen in writings, you know, in
the chair, but they're never in the same room at
the same time.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Was that by design because Shatner and Montaman didn't get
along or I.

Speaker 14 (19:08):
Think it was more or Les Multiplun's the filming timeline,
Oh so you can only check in at various times
like something like that. Or he had to film his
parts afterwards or beforehand or something along that.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, Wrath of Khan. I don't know who's the bigger
star trek nerd Jimmy Sengenberger or John Caldera will be
filling in for me tomorrow. So you got Jimmy and
for Michael John Caldera Independence Institute in for me tomorrow.
That's always a hoot and holler. So yeah, that to

(19:45):
look forward to. Michael Brown's already gone and I'm I'm
on my way. I just checked in from a flight
Delta air Lines going to Detroit, Michigan, fourth of July.
As only kid Rock could describe it all summer long. Yeah,
that's it. It's a very vivid and accurate description of
life in northern Michigan during the summer. This just in

(20:10):
Sean p. Diddy Puff Daddy Combs has been acquitted of
the most serious charges with which the prosecution brought and
here is an update on that. And not guilty on racketeering,
not guilty on trafficking the plaintiff known as Cassie, guilty

(20:31):
of transport for Cassie, and not guilty for the trafficking
of Jane Doe, but guilty for the transport of Jane Doe.
So I don't know. Michael Brown often talks about a
distinction without a difference, right, what is the difference between
providing transport in the execution of a prostitution ring or transaction,

(21:01):
transport versus trafficking. I don't know. That's above my pay grade.
It might not be above Michaels, though he might be
able to explain that. Let's get to your text and
get to that number once again. You can refresh thirty
three one to oh three listening again from Louisville, Kentucky
on KHW. Thanks well, thank you for listening from Louisville. Also,

(21:24):
what's going on there in Kentucky. I mean, we love
Scott Jennings CNN, he's a Kentuckian. We love Leland Conway
formerly on this station now with Coco San Diego. But
then you got, you know, some rabble rousers. Andy Basheer,
two term Democratic governor. How does that happen in Kentucky?

(21:45):
And Mitch McConnell, Cocaine Mitch no, no, no, not a
fan of the Turtle. I am a fan of Thomas Massey,
but he's been kind of jamming up the works a
little bit when it comes to the America First mega agenda.
Now he will say he was the og America First.
In some ways, I think that's accurate. But again, letting
the perfect be the enemy of the good, and some

(22:06):
would argue the bill's not even good, the big beautiful bill,
and I get that too, but it could be a
lot worse, and it will be a lot worse if
that's not past. It's an unfortunate reality of how things
are done in Congress. I don't like it any more
than Massy does or many of you do. But we
have a Republican triumvirate in power right now. It is

(22:26):
threadbare that margin in the House and even in the
Senate because you can't count on a few of those
Republican senators in this case, Ran Paul tom tillis. What
a disappointment that guy is. Get out of there. He's
not running for reelection, so that's good. Maybe Laura Trump
will run for that seat. He's been threatening to do so.
And then you got Murky Murkowski and Susan Collins. You
know they're not worth much. So there you go. You

(22:49):
can't get a whole lot across the finish line that
you might like to because it takes an Act of Congress.
Remember that was the whole thing. Oh and take an
Act of Congress to get that done. Well, that's what
this is. And it's a very odd, ambitious bill. It's
trying to enact most of the Trump agenda. He was
asked early on, do you want to try to pass
these things piecemeal, like one at a time. No, Nope,
he wants one big, beautiful bill. Okay, and if you

(23:13):
stay tuned later on today on my program, which I'll
still be hosting today, so double duty for yours truly,
the President of the United States, Donald Trump, will join us.
It's actually Sean Ferish, but he sounds a lot like
the President and it's going to be a lot of fun.
So you won't want to miss that hour number two
and for me, that is the three pm hour. Well,
this is nice, Thank you. I needed to hear this

(23:34):
this morning. Good little pick me up, better than a
cup of cuffee. Ryan, your top shelf human intelligence mornings
are way better because of you. You might want to
tell mornings that because I don't think they like me
very much. I'm just I can't do it. I walk
in here, dragon, I don't know how you do it.
I don't know how Shannon does it. I look over there,

(23:55):
I see our dogged squad of reporters for KOA, Chad
Bauers as well, and they're they're up in Adam, like,
how are you people doing this?

Speaker 14 (24:04):
And if you're counting Ryan's intelligence on the Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Bar, it's a very low bar to set so well,
so that's fair, that's fan accurate. And now Kelly Cauchera
walks in, Oh, can we start the show now, Kelly,
since you've chosen to grace us with your presence and
you've arrived to turn on Wimbledon, which I know is
exactly what you're about to do. She's not denying it. Okay,

(24:30):
Ryan called out, Oh yeah, she knows crocodile mosa in hand.
She got a mimosa already. What about the strawberries and cream,
that's what you're supposed to have. It's Wimbledon, give it
the program? Is uh Novak Djokovic still alive? Yeah? Okay,
good Brabo, my fellow, sir. Don't give him thumbs down,

(24:51):
give him thumbs up. Love no fact, Crocodile tears for
Liberals can be properly named krock of tears ch bulleteers, Yeah,
crack of m Yeah. If you go back to that
illustrious exchange between Senator Michael Bennett and Treasury Secretary Scott Beston,

(25:13):
you talked about a mismatch of intellects there, My goodness, gracious.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Michael Bennett thinks he gets really worked up. He starts
talking really about Ted Cruise. People lost their jobs, their homes,
and people were killed in New floods in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Then he thinks that's a more impressive, emphatic, convincing message.
I assure him it's not. And Scott Beston actually tried
to tell him that that volume does not equate to
truth or veracity. Volume does not equal veracity.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Well, if you mean truth by veracity, what I'm saying,
it's true?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Good, Okay, folks. I'm trying to brace myself because if
if you're going by betting odds in Vegas, if they
had him, Michael Bennett is likely to be our next governor. Okay,
He's run against Phil Wiser, Phil none the Wiser that
that's not going to go well for Phil, I don't think.
And then the Republicans are going to have to nominate

(26:14):
somebody that can go toe to toe with him. And
I don't mean that Michael Bennett's any great shakes, he's not.
But we need somebody with name recognition that breaks through
the noise, that's able to grab people's attention, that is
able to form a coalition of voters in Colorado. That
is going to be a narrow path for a Republican
to win, and it's going to be very difficult. It's
close to impossible. It's not impossible, but it's close. Got

(26:36):
to consolidate the entire Republican party. That's step one. But
then also you got to add on undecided who in
recent elections of overwhelmingly voted Democrat, unaffiliated, undecided, moderates, independents.
However you want to find that group of voters in
this state, they lean blue pretty heavily, I might add,
So how do you break through that? You know, it's

(26:57):
a question, I asked. I don't have the answer to
it necessarily, but it's going to take a force of nature.
Somebody with a really strong, vibrant, magnetic personality who resonates
with people and can relate to people, make people feel
like that person that candidate cares about them, and they

(27:19):
can articulate that in words that Michael Bennett probably cannot.
This is Bob in Texas talking about the coburger deal
in Idaho. Yeah, this plea deal is disgusting. I've been
where these families are. I've walked into a room and
seen my family's faces plastered on Fox News. The main

(27:39):
difference is that the perpetrator of the shooting had the
decency to die keeping this This perpetrator of stabbing alive
is an insult to the lives he took in their families. Well,
Bob in Texas, my heart goes out to you for
what you've had to endure with your family. I can
only imagine what that must have been like. And then, yeah,

(28:01):
I've been following this case and watching is a cobbander.
I mean, this guy deserved the death penalty. If there
ever was a case where that was appropriate, this was it,
and it is. It's disappointing, and I know a lot
of the victims' families are disappointed as well. Your texts, however,
are not disappointing. They are delivering, and I'm looking forward
to more of them. At thirty three one oh three,

(28:22):
as we wind down their third hour here of the
situation without Michael brown he is elsewhere today. We wish
him well, wishing all of you a very happy and
safe holiday weekend that starts early hopefully for a lot
of you. Starts for me tomorrow morning. Independence Day, celebrate
in America two hundred and forty nine years. One more year.
It'd be two fifty looking forward to that one back

(28:44):
after this, Hey Dragon you Ryan, Hey, Brownie's off again today.
He talks about being the talent. Sounds like he's got
a talent for not coming to work. I know that
there is a fan situation that had arisen, so don't
think this one's all fun and games for him. So

(29:05):
thinking about Brownie, wishing him the best. He'll be back
soon enough, but not today and not tomorrow, and it'll
be Meat today and Jimmy Sangeberger tomorrow. Then we have
a special holiday programming coming up Friday, Julie the fourth.
That means Dragon doesn't have to work, right, I hope?

Speaker 7 (29:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Good, good? Let me see Michael for Michael's eyes only. Well,
you picked an interesting time in place to text that,
so I guess I'm just gonna leave that there and
I'll have Dragon do the interpretation. The other said, oh,
you're talking about Sean Diddy Combs. Yeah, okay, I won't

(29:41):
read the text. I don't know. I don't know, but yeah,
he was acquitted at most of the serious charges. This
is breaking right now. It's Lead's story both on CNN
Fox News that I'm looking at guilty on the prostitution charges,
including transport, but acquitted of the trafficking charges, which would
have brought with it a more serious sentence. Well, I
don't know how you split that, but I do know

(30:03):
the jury had come back right and they were asking
questions I think about the definition of racketeering, and so
they apparently backed off of that and backed off of
the sex trafficking, fraud of coercion that he was guilty
of transportation to engage in prostitution. Well, if there's transportation

(30:26):
involved and it's prostitution, that's being done again the distinction
without a difference thing on the distinction from that to trafficking.
Don't get it, don't understand. But Margartech's thirty three to
one to oh three if you want to send those along. Well,
looking forward to this story at the top of the hour,

(30:51):
Mark Salinger reporting that the city of Denver is changing
its layoff rules to a merit based performance analysis over
years of service. This seems a little bit, I don't know, ironic,
considering what may Or Mike Johnston is up against with
the budget deficit. What's causing that budget deficit? Think about
that for a moment if you would, and I know

(31:11):
that you do. Well, here's Jake Tapper talking about his
experience moderating the debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden
just over one year ago, exactly on the calendar. Fascinating.
What was it like for you being there, You're co
moderating that debate.

Speaker 15 (31:28):
It begins before before it begins, he is late showing up.
We're in Atlanta in a battle around stage Georgia that
Biden won in twenty twenty and Trump won in twenty sixteen,
and that both both campaigns and candidates had been offered walkthroughs.
Donald Trump shows Neither of them show up on time,

(31:49):
of course, but the time for them to show up
was was still.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
You know, laughably early.

Speaker 15 (31:56):
It wasn't really necessary for them to show up as
early as scene and asked them to be But Donald
Trump shows up and you know, whatever you think, Donald Trump,
he's a pro which wants my camera?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
What if I want to ask a follow up? What
if I want this? You know? What do I do.

Speaker 15 (32:10):
When he's talking, when Biden's talking? Is the camera on me?
Et cetera, et cetera. Now I'm supposed to go out
the debates starting at nine pm, which, by the way,
was another shocker to me when I found out that
day had agreed to do a nine pm debate for
an hour and a half. I thought to myself, that

(32:30):
seems late. That's late for me, it's late for you,
Jake Tapper.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
But you were the one pushing back on Lara Trump,
who was calling out Biden's cognitive decline, and you said
she didn't know anything about that. You didn't think to
question it before this debate. Why are you suddenly concerned
in that moment? Think about that? June twenty seventh, twenty
twenty four, Oh my gosh, nine pm. That's pretty late
for Biden. Are you admitting that he's sundowns something that
you were decrying on your very own CNN program multiple

(33:00):
times defending Joe Biden. H Like, how is it going
to be for Joe Biden?

Speaker 15 (33:06):
I mean, I understand Donald Trump run's on some energy
force that I don't understand, but like, uh, that's late.
But okay, I guess they know what they're doing. I
think there was a degree to which of I guess
they know what they're doing. They do infected the heads
of so many of us covering him. Why because why
would you put him out there for an hour and
a half debate at nine o'clock at night when they
could have agreed to a seven pm debate because at

(33:29):
eight thirty, I'm supposed to be out on stage, just
sitting there and we're doing lighting and all that stuff,
and I can't go out there because Joe Biden has
just shown up a half hour before the debate.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
He's supposed to have been there hours before. Now, real quick,
Why wouldn't his team demand earlier in the night debate?
Were they try Were they're too confident in his abilities? No,
he'll go at nine and he'll do just fine, and
he'll mop the floor with Trump. Or was their subterfusion
They wanted to expose him for the old fraud that
he was and get him off the ticket.

Speaker 15 (34:00):
And why was he so late Because he didn't think
he needed to do it. He didn't think he needed
to do a walk through, which is crazy. Every candidate
does a walk through. Barack Obama that did walk throughs,
Like you just do this. So he walks out, he
hobbles out, you know, he does that shifting thing, right,

(34:21):
shuffling thing, seeming really old. Yeah, I had seen him,
so I was not surprised. What he starts talking. He
obviously has a cold. He sounds awful. His voice is
already thinner and readier than it had been.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
But now it's you know, it's really bad.

Speaker 15 (34:37):
His first answer is whatever, it's fine, serviceable, but then
he gets to that horrible answer where he completely loses
his train of thought.

Speaker 13 (34:47):
Great eligible for what I've been able to do with
the with the COVID, I should be with dealing with
everything we have to do with.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Look if we finally beat medicare, thank you, President Biden,
President Trump, who he's right. He did beat medicaid, beat
it to death.

Speaker 15 (35:09):
And he's just And we have these iPads, and I
wrote to the control room, holy smokes, and Dana writes,
writes to me on a piece of paper.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
He just lost the election. And you couldn't have been
surprised if you were of an honest mind and had
been watching since the time where I occupied Dragon's chair
and was doing moments of Biden on the situation with
Michael Brown when he was in the afternoons. That's how
long back this goes. This was not a surprise to
anybody that was paying attention and being honest with their

(35:36):
audience about what they were seeing. And that's why you
can trust this guy. I'm the guy that's doing his job.
So is Dragon. But the Donald Trump comeback there was
equally impressive as Biden was unimpressive. Right on his fingos, Yeah,
he beat Medica, beat it to death, and the other time,
I don't know what he's saying. I don't think he
knows what he's saying. Really sharp performance by Donald Trump

(35:58):
and that debate, and it vaulted him to victory.

Speaker 7 (36:03):
HM
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