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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think what needs to happen here is, uh, Brownie
needs to self quarantine. We're gonna need at least two
weeks to slow the spread.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I mean this could be our next pandemic.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
This could be nationwide, worldwide, I mean worldwide.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, all right, that was good. That was really good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
For in case you're just joining us, Michael Brown has
a man called and I think that color was was
dead on.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
We need to we need to stop the spread. We
need to slow the spread. Smart people realize. I think
we need to mask up. We need to mask up.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Mostly Michael needs to mask up, because I don't know
if you've seen him in person, but he is one
ugly guy, and so for all of us, I think
he particularly needs to mask up.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Poor Michael, He's got a really bad man called.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
He did come crawling into the studio this morning before
I got the phone call.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Could you come in here?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Because he's gonna die on air, which I would think
would be a great way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
If you're a rock and roll guy. Yeah. I mean
I think of you know, my rock.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
And roll heroes, and very few of them die on stage,
you know they John and Twistle, the incredible bass player
for the who died night before a concert.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
He died in his hotel room with a hooker and
cocaine in his system. So you know you got that
going for you. But wouldn't it have been better if
if he died on stage? If he's going out and
then he just collapses. There was a I'm trying to
remember the blues artist. His nickname was three hundred Pounds

(02:04):
of Heavenly Joy, and I did back when I had
a real job. I did lights for him at someplace,
and then the next day he died on stage. He
died on stage.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Would wouldn't that? Wouldn't you want to see that? You know?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, it's one thing to drown in your own vomit, or,
as someone in spinal tack did, drown in somebody else's vomit.
But it would be cooler for rockstar to die on stage.
Michael Brown could be in studio and just you know, die.

(02:46):
Now that's how a radio host should go. Again, another
reason to be very very disappointed in Michael Brown. I
said it, You thought it, but I said it. That's
the difference. All right, Let's keep rolling on. Hey the

(03:09):
Gazette today, my friend and colleague Eric Sanderman has a
has a really good piece on the bridge, the bridge
to nowhere, know, the bridge to Jared Polis's legacy.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I don't know if you know this, but.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
The bridge, you know this, This this incredible bridge, This
ramp that's supposed to go over the Capitol from the
Capitol Building, over Lincoln and into the first part of
that park in Civic Center. That first part of the
park that's between Broadway and Lincoln is actually owned by
the state, not the city, and so police wants to

(03:55):
spend twenty eight million, twenty nine million building this bridge
that looks like a winding river across across the.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Across the road.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Basically, it's it's a place for homeless people to hang
out under and.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
And it's ugly. It's just ugliest sin, ugliest sin.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
It was so ugly that none other than the formidable
Kyle Clark of nine News went on a personal mission
to tube this thing. He did a six minute editorial
on his show Next on Channel nine Now. Kyle Clark

(04:39):
usually sits behind a desk and tells us how the
world should be.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
In his vision.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
This time, he spent six highly polished production with multiple
cameras and a drone around the capitol as he as
he said, what a waste of money this is.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's an ugly thing. So the governor is in a
bit of a pickle. He's got some rich.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Guys behind him who are willing to throw in a
few million, because when you're that wealthy, what's a few million?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
And this was supposed to.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Be his his legacy, and then reality starts coming in.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Nobody wants it history.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Colorado goes on a rampage saying that this disturbs the
esthetic of this beautiful Civic Center park. But people go,
wait a second, does this mean that every governor is
going to have their own their own ego project that
they're going to do around the Capitol when when they leave,

(05:48):
this thing isn't going to happen.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
But Polis needs a way out. He needs a face
saving way out out of this bridge. So he comes up.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
He comes up with a pole, which is you you
come and go on this online poll, which I think
is done, but he hasn't told us what the answer
is and let's see what people think. Now he knows
darn well, because he's not stupid that overwhelmingly people are

(06:24):
going to vote no on this pole. I think it's
just going to be overwhelming. He needs this pole.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Parent, I haven't.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I haven't seen the poll, but I heard you go
and it says, you know, first question, how excited are
you to celebrate Colorado's one hundred and fiftieth birthday? A
lot excited or.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Just a little excited? And then they ask you, should
we build? Should we build a bridge? Hmmm? According according to.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
According to Eric Sanderman's piece in the Gazette today, suddenly
Polis is ironing his white flag as he looks for
an off ramp. The online survey he now announced last
week is that vehicle. The survey is preceded by pages
of cheerleading hype. One section is headlined building an iconic

(07:23):
walkway that celebrates Colorado's past and future.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Hmm, you get the drift. Polus told nine News.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
That the survey was engineered to preclude anyone from voting
more than once from the same device, As Sutterman says, no,
I voted twice for my laptop, once from my iPad,
once from my phone. Never Mind, I can cast a
third vote on the laptop. So much for that precaution

(07:55):
and the guarantee came from someone who made his fortune
in online commerce. Still the blatant slant of the proceeds
the survey. Polis must know the outcome. You win some,
you lose some, unlike the Rockies who just do the latter.

(08:17):
Take the loss, governor, exit the bridge. You still have
marauding wolves to claim as a legacy. That's pretty funny.
So have you voted in this survey. Let me tell
you what the survey is going to say. Overwhelmingly, people

(08:42):
who take the survey will say, don't build this ugly,
ugly bridge, this.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Twenty nine million dollar art installation. Now we've got a
budget deficit.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
And the governor is pimping a bridge that serves no function.
The handicapped community isn't wild about this. They would like
a bridge, but not one that winds around. You could
also do an underpass, or a regular overpass, or just
an at level pass.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's it. It's it's an ego project. He needs, he
needs a face saving way out of this.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Here's what is going to happen when he finally gives
us the results of this this bridge survey. It's going
to be overwhelmingly against and he's gonna do his awe
shucks routine, and the awe strucks routine would be ah shucks.

(09:53):
You know, I really like the artwork, but you know this, Governor,
it's my job to listen to the people, and.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
So we're we're not going to do this there. Mind you.
This is a guy who spent at least.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Twenty million dollars of his own money, more like thirty
million dollars buying the governorship.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
He did it again during a reelection. If he wants
to pay for this thing, he could, he could do
it himself. But it's ugly. I mean it's ugly, now,
I get it. Public art is a risky thing.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I have come to love Lucifer, that big blue horse
with the evil eyes that you see as you go
into da.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I just love that thing.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's creepy, it's wonderful, it looks great at night, and
most importantly, like a good Stephen King novel, it killed
its own creator. I mean, how cool is that? It
killed its own creator. Yeah, when the guy was building it,
it fell on him and killed him.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
His sons had to complete the work.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
And I don't know who nicknamed it Blucifer, but it's
the perfect name. It's Blucifer, whereas there's other public artwork
I look at and I go, really, we spent tax
money on this.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's weird stick figure guys in front of the.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
DCPA, maybe the big blue bear, ugly, ugly, all of
which will look great compared to this homeless magnet.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
A winding bridge, a pedestrian bridge. Yeah, it is kind
of cool.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
With modern graphics, you get a much better look at
at what it could look like in reality.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
And it looks awful. It just looks awful.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
So this poll that he's doing, this online unscientific poll
is his off rampant. It is his way out. You're
in a bad situation. You can't just go you know,
I change my mind or you I'm sorry, But the

(12:28):
political price for this is just too high to take.
Keep in mind, the guy wants to be president or senator.
It makes me wonder, by the way, that when when
Michael Bennett threw his hat in the ring to become governor,

(12:51):
he said he as governor would replace him as.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
As Senate.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
For those who don't know, when there's a vacancy in
the Senate, the governor here chooses the replacement. Kuy needs
to stand for re election. At the next election, but
he gets the power of incumbency. Now, if Michael Bennett

(13:21):
resigned now, it means that that Polis would have to
put in his have to put in his replacement. I
found it fascinating that Michael Bennett said, I'm going to
choose the right guy.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
To replace me after I become governor.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
So really, if you vote for Michael Bennett, you are
voting for two seats. You're voting not only for him
to become governor, you'll be voting for him to replace
himself at as United States Senator. That sure seems like
something he better tell us who that is, that better

(14:04):
be known. Wouldn't it be interesting if he said, Hey,
if I'm elected, I'm going to I'm going to appoint
Michael Johnson as Senator, or I'm going to appoint Jared
Polis as United States Senator. We ought to know before

(14:24):
we vote for him who he's going to have represent
us in this very exclusive powerful body, the United States Senate.
So it makes one think that the deal has been
made that police will get that call, because if police
gets that call, I mean, he can't really appoint himself.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Michael Bennett resigns today and says.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I am going to run for Colorado governor, win or lose.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I'm out of the Senate. Well, then Polish would have.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Would have to get an appointment, he would choose, he could,
I suppose choose himself.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
But that's a tough thing to do. It's a really
embarrassing thing to do.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I don't think anyone has done it successfully.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
So was the deal struck?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Hey, Michael, you become governor and then you appoint me
for your seat. Otherwise Bennett should tell us why he
wants to who he's gonna put back in? And have
you noticed everything about Michael Bennett's campaign has nothing to
do with Colorado. He's been a senator so long that

(15:50):
when he talks about Colorado, he talks about what he's
going to do to fight Trump.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
He's running against Trump to become governor. It's not talking
about Colorado issues. He's calling talking about how Colorado needs
to stand up to Trump. That's that's not enough. You're
not going to be a senator anymore. What are you

(16:16):
gonna do exactly in Colorado? What are you gonna do
exactly on the budget deficit?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
What are you going to do with the illegals. What
are you gonna do on crime? What are you going
to do to to get rid of the homeless? What
are you going to do to save Colorado? That's what
we need to know, not what you're going to do
to make Trump look bad. We get it. You don't
like Trump.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
It's one of the reasons why I don't think Phil Wiser,
the other Democrat running for denomination, is out of this
fight by a long shot.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
All right, So a couple of things. Do you want
the bridge? Do you think.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Polis is going to use this survey as the off
ramp to get out of a bad, bad, embarrassing decision.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I think he is.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
And if Paulus wanted to become a senator, you could
just wait gone.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
How the heck are you gotta ask? You probably had
a real short notice for this show. So did you
agree to do it on the condition that you could
do the entire show from your bed without even bothering
to put on pants? Because that's kind of what I'm
imagining right now, and I know how that sounds.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
First of all, there's a reason why those of us
who are in radio broadcast choose radio broadcast.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It is because of how we look.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
There's a term in radio called you got a face
for radio, and there's a reason for that, and.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So why wouldn't why wouldn't we work in our underwear?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know, that's the beautiful thing of being able to
you know, and do a show, or do it from
a remote studio, or to be honest, even go into
the studio and work in your underwear. Now, my daughter
and I have this conversation quite often, which is, why

(18:27):
do guys just.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Want to hang out in their underwear? Why do guys
hate clothes so much? It's not that we hate clothes,
we just don't want to wear them. It's so great.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
So my son who has down syndrome, and he's in
his boxers, I'm in my boxers or watching TV. We're
doing guy stuff whatever it is, or just live in
our lives. And then comes along the daughter who screams,
this is a pro pants household.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
In this household we wear pants, to.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Which I look around and go, apparently, apparently you don't.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
No, no, no, we don't.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
You're outnumbered. It's two to one right now, it's two
to one. It's two to one.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Why, you know, understand, if if there weren't these societal rules.
Guys whould just go to work wear nothing but underwear
and think of the savings we'd have. You know, is
there anything more comfortable in just hanging out in your
boxers and watching TV. No, that's what God wanted us

(19:44):
to do. Otherwise he would not have invented boxer shorts.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's that's why.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
And when you do radio, that's that's how you do it,
even when you do television.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Don't be surprised.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I have been to many and many and many a
TV studio where the talking head is wearing the usual
suit and tie and a pair of shorts. Oh, it's
just a pair of shorts. Why because the camera doesn't
show that.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You're just you're just doing that.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Do you think the judge is wearing anything under the road, No,
he's just wearing his underwear. Good God, it's the natural
state of man. And by the way, we are willing
to make a deal with the fair or sex. If
you let us come to work just in our underwear,

(20:44):
you too can come to work.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Only in your underwear. And that seems fair.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yet no woman I've ever known has taken us up
on this offer of clothing. Detonte, Hey, can I I'll
just come to work mine under You coming to work
in your underwear, will all be happy? Everyone Notice it's.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
The women who go, no, thank you, No, no.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I don't want to see you in your underwear. No,
I particularly don't want you to see me and my underwear.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
It just seems like a win win all around, it
really does. Have you ever seen there's a guy who
does video practical jokes and his great invention which has
lasted now for years. I forget what day it is
is No Pants Day. It's in New York City and

(21:38):
it's no pants Day. And it started off as this
this subway video joke. So the guys there with a
camera hidden and they roll into a subway stop. They're
on this subway car and a guy just walks on

(22:01):
with no pants. He's dressed up top, he's wearing a
suit or he's wearing you know something, and he's just
he's wearing his boxers and no pants.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
And what's great is you watch the video. Nobody bats
an eye.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Nobody bats and I why because that's New York City
and there's somebody without pants and he's there standing up
next to a woman who's reading a book, and she
kind of gives him this glance of New York. They
roll into the next stop and another guy gets into
the same car without wearing pants. Now, the two guys

(22:42):
who are not wearing pants don't look at each other,
don't really notice each other.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
They're just strangers on the subway car.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
And you see the same woman look and then she's
looking really nervous, like, oh my god, there's there's two
guys here. We're not wearing pants.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
They go to the next stop and yet another guy
not wearing.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Pants just comes on board and he's on his phone
talking or reading a book, and he just gets on there,
and the people are starting.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
To really look around, like, oh my god, what's going on.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
And then they go to the next stop and a
fourth guy comes on not wearing any pants, and people
start giggling, and throughout the whole thing, nobody, none of
the guys who are not wearing pants.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Act any differently.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
And they do this for like eight or ten stops
on the subway, and it's full of guys just not
wearing pants in their boxers. It's just like they're normal guys.
And then, to make it great, on the very last stop,
where everybody has to get off the subway. There is

(23:56):
a vendor holding a tray, and he's at the sign
says pants ten dollars, and they all get in line
and buy a pair of pants. Now, that is a terrific,
terrific prank. That's just well done. And they did it,

(24:18):
and it started to become this kind of underground thing
where every year, on a particular day it became.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
No pants Day.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
And on no pants Day people would ride the subway
not wearing pants.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Why not? I think it's like in October.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Someplace where you'd be wearing pants. All of which to say,
there were no women who participated in no Pants Day,
go figure, but a bunch of guys do no pants Day.

(24:57):
I think this could be the civil rights movement of
our time. Yes, yes, yes, there was emancipation and a slavery.
There was giving women the vote. There was a Civil
Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. But when will men

(25:19):
be able to have underwear rights? When will we be
able to go to work only in our underwear without
being threatened, humiliated.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Fired, castigated. We should be able to just live.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
In our underwear because left our own devices, that's what
we do. Be in our boxer shorts, eat over the sink,
watch television.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
We're such wonderfully simple creatures.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Anyway, for that caller who who was wondering, if I'm
working on my underwear, why wouldn't I be. Everyone you
hear on radio is in their underwear, except the women,
because you know they're different. Three oh three seven one
three eight two five five seven to one three talk. Yes,

(26:17):
there's nothing like getting a call. Can you be on
the radio in three minutes?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Sure? Why not?

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Michael Brown is is is feeling a bit under the weather.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
He's got man cold.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
He's got a terrible case of man cold, the worse
man cold you could possibly have. He probably won't make it.
He probably won't make it. It's it's here's a man cold.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
What was that? Dragon? Here's hoping that he doesn't make it?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's like glord, take me, this is a
this is any man with a cold. He's like, Lord,
just take me now, and the suffering take me now, Lord,
I can't take any more. My nose is red. I
can't find the remote control. Take me little, just take
me now. I'm ready to go and I gotta live
my life.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
What was that?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
And I got a fever I got. I got a fever.
I need more cow bell. I got a fever for
more cow bell. All right, enough said, how did we
get on this?

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Because somebody asked if I'm in my underwear? I'm glad.
I'm glad to dear caller.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
When you think of me, you're wondering if I'm only
in my underwear. It's nice to be fantasized about.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Really, it.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Didn't happen that much anymore, you know what I mean.
All right, let's take a quick breather. I'm John Kelder.
Give me a call three or three seven, one, three,
eight two five, five seven to one three talk and
keep it here. You're on six thirty k How.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I think in honor of Polist they should build that
bridge out of unused, unneeded.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Oil barrels, since he's decimated the oil industry.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I like that idea. Hey, I'm John Caldera.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Careful because they'll actually think that's a good idea going. Hey,
we're saving the planet. Let's reuse and recycle these oil barrels.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
And also the oil barrels can be used by the
homeless to put up their fires. That traditional keep the
fire going in the fifty.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, that's truefty.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Gallon barrel and walls sing songs all around it. I
think it's a beautiful thing, just a beautiful thing. This
is from Boulder Reporting Lab. They put it under a
headinge they call Trump two point zero. Dozens of Bolder
federal workers were fired under Trump. Now they're struggling to

(28:48):
get unemployment after layoffs from Noah and other federal agencies.
Some say Colorado's system is failing even those best equipped
to navigate it, with more firings coming. So basically, let
me see if I got this. Basically, the failure of

(29:11):
government is compounded by the failure of government. So government
hacks are starting to understand government doesn't work so well.
So this guy they talk about received no warning or severance.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
He lost his job.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
He turned to Colorado's unemployment system for help his family,
expecting to qualify for the state's maximum benefit of twenty
one thousand dollars, but his claim was denied. He received
just one payment for less than nine hundred dollars. Despite
his familiarity with governmental systems, navigating the process has been
anything but straightforward. I believe this to be the major

(29:56):
miscalculation in my case.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Shaken by the sudden loss of employment and.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Are now facing a second crisis, navigating the system they
thought would be there to help. Yeah, they thought government
would be there to help. Imagine, you know what. And
I don't mean to be heartless to the people who
lost their job. Losing their job as a scary, awful
and terrible thing, but these are people who have who

(30:28):
have their entire life known employment security. I'm talking into
a microphone at a radio station. Do you understand radio
is nothing but getting fired some some big wig in
New York has a bad hot dog for lunch, and

(30:49):
your radio station has turned from talk to country. I
was talking to somebody whose relative was complaining that they're
funding got cut. One of the grants that they expected
from the federal government might not come through because of Trump.
Now they run a charity, and the charity could go

(31:09):
off and find other donors, could go out and build support.
But they got so dependent on one one source of
income that they couldn't handle when it got cut. Those
who depend on federal government like that and had federal jobs,

(31:32):
This is what.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's like for the rest of us.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
All the time we get fired, our funding gets cut off,
and we have to deal with it. Stop being a cupcake,
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